La MEJOR Entrevista de Charles Manson [SUB ESP]
Summary
TLDREl guion ofrece una mirada profunda a la conversación con Charles Manson, un personaje controversial. Se explora su perspectiva sobre la vida, la muerte y la condena a prisión a lo largo de 34 años. Manson expresa su miedo a la vida en lugar de la muerte, y su percepción de sí mismo como un reflejo de las negatividades de la sociedad. La conversación toca temas oscuros, incluyendo crímenes y la famosa 'mansión de los Manson', revelando una visión de Manson sobre su inocencia y la manipulación mediática.
Takeaways
- 😐 El entrevistado muestra una actitud desafiante y desapegada hacia su situación, indicando que no teme la muerte pero le da miedo vivir.
- 🔒 Ha estado en prisión durante 34 años, lo que representa la mayor parte de su vida, y se muestra adaptado a la vida carcelaria.
- 🤔 Afirma su inocencia en relación con los crímenes de lesa humanidad de los que se le acusa, argumentando que no ha cometido delitos ni ha ido al gas chamber.
- 🗣️ Expresa una visión cínica de la justicia y los medios de comunicación, sugiriendo que fue condenado por la opinión pública antes de cualquier juicio.
- 👥 Se refiere a su entorno carcelario como un mundo diferente, con sus propias reglas y dinámicas sociales, y afirma entender y manejar este entorno.
- 🔪 Admite haber participado en actos violentos, como cortar la oreja de alguien, pero lo justifica como una acción en respuesta a la desobediencia de una orden.
- 🚫 Rechaza la idea de que tenga influencia mágica o mística, y critica la narrativa que lo presenta como un líder de culto o poseedor de poderes sobrenaturales.
- 👨👧👦 Muestra una actitud de desdén hacia las mujeres, considerándolas como seres inferiores que deben someterse a los hombres.
- 🧐 Afirma que no tiene remordimientos ni se siente culpable, y que la culpa y la inocencia son conceptos subjetivos que varían según la perspectiva.
- 🏡 Si fuera liberado, no tiene planes concretos, pero sugiere que aprecia la libertad y la naturaleza, aunque también está acostumbrado a la vida en prisión.
Q & A
¿Qué es lo que Charles dice que le gusta del mundo en el que vive?
-Charles expresa que ama el mundo en el que vive, al igual que Reagan ama el suyo, y que disfruta de la vida en prisión, a pesar de que ha estado allí durante la mayor parte de su vida.
¿Por qué Charles dice que no es culpable de los crímenes de los que se le acusa?
-Charles argumenta que no es culpable porque él no ha cometido ningún delito y que el juez conocía la verdad, pero la opinión pública y los medios de comunicación ya habían condenado su caso.
¿Cómo responde Charles a la idea de que podría ser liberado y volver a la sociedad?
-Charles menciona que si fuera liberado, probablemente saldría al césped y se sentaría, y desmiente la idea de que volvería a cometer crímenes, alegando que no ha matado a nadie.
¿Qué opina Charles sobre el dolor y el sufrimiento?
-Charles afirma que no conoce el dolor ni el sufrimiento, y que no ha sido castigado por nada malo en su vida, a pesar de haber estado en instituciones correccionales desde los 10 años.
¿Qué dijo Charles sobre su relación con las mujeres?
-Charles expresa que le gustan las mujeres porque son agradables, suaves y bien formadas, pero también menciona que deberían mantenerse calladas y hacer lo que se les dice.
¿Cuál es la perspectiva de Charles sobre la educación y su experiencia en la escuela?
-Charles menciona que tuvo problemas en la escuela, pero destaca que siempre hizo bien en las reformatorias y en los lugares donde se le decía que debía hacerlo.
¿Qué dijo Charles sobre su percepción de sí mismo y cómo los demás lo ven?
-Charles dice que es una reflexión de lo negativo que otros ven en él, y que él mismo no es el hombre que los medios de comunicación intentan pintar, a pesar de que ha sido etiquetado como un criminal y un líder de culto.
¿Cómo responde Charles a las acusaciones de que dirigió a otros para cometer crímenes?
-Charles niega haber dirigido a otros para cometer crímenes y desmiente haber participado en los actos que se le atribuyen, argumentando que él mismo no ha matado a nadie.
¿Qué dijo Charles sobre su vida en prisión y cómo se la toma?
-Charles describe su vida en prisión como algo que entiende y con lo que puede lidiar, a pesar de que ha estado allí durante 34 años, y que se ha adaptado a la vida carcelaria.
¿Qué opina Charles sobre la posibilidad de que otros tengan miedo de él si fuera liberado?
-Charles expresa sorpresa y desacuerdo ante la idea de que la gente podría tener miedo de él si fuera liberado, argumentando que es una proyección de la inseguridad de la sociedad.
Outlines
😐 Diálogo sobre la vida en prisión y la percepción pública
Este párrafo muestra una conversación donde el entrevistado habla sobre su vida en prisión, su percepción de la libertad y la muerte. Describe su vida como un convicto que ha vivido toda su vida en la cárcel, comprendiendo así el sistema penitenciario y su propio ser. El entrevistado también discute la idea de la culpabilidad y la inocencia, y cómo la opinión pública y los medios de comunicación pueden influir en la percepción de las personas sobre él y su caso. Además, se menciona su interacción con otros presos y cómo ha aprendido de sus experiencias.
😥 Reflexiones sobre el pasado y la familia
En este párrafo, el entrevistado aborda su relación con otros miembros de la sociedad, incluyendo la familia Manson y su papel en eventos trágicos del pasado. Se mencionan específicamente los asesinatos en la casa de Cielo Drive y la noche siguiente en la casa de los LaBianca. El entrevistado niega cualquier participación directa en los actos violentos y desvía la conversación hacia otros temas, como el trato que ha recibido de la prensa y la percepción pública, así como su relación con las mujeres y su vida familiar.
🤔 Consideraciones sobre la vida y la libertad
El entrevistado reflexiona sobre su vida, su educación y su experiencia en la prisión. Habla de sus habilidades adquiridas en la escuela de reforma y en la prisión, y cómo estas experiencias lo han formado como persona. También menciona su filosofía de vida, donde sugiere que la sinceridad y la honestidad son herramientas poderosas. Finalmente, se explora la posibilidad de su liberación y cómo él mismo y los demás podrían reaccionar ante tal evento.
😕 Diálogo incomprensible y fragmentos de conversación
Este párrafo presenta una serie de frases y expresiones que son difíciles de interpretar y que no siguen un tema claro o coherente. Incluye referencias a situaciones y términos que no se pueden vincular directamente con el contexto previo, lo que podría indicar una interrupción o un cambio de tema en la conversación.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Cámara de gas
💡Mansión Family
💡Culto
💡Reforma
💡Pena de muerte
💡Autoafirmación
💡Reflejo
💡Helter Skelter
💡Reformar
💡Inocencia
Highlights
El personaje refleja la sociedad y su percepción de él como un reflejo de sus propias negatividades.
Charles expresa su miedo a la vida en lugar de la muerte, destacando la facilidad de la muerte en comparación con la vida.
Muestra su comprensión y aceptación de la prisión como su entorno de crianza y su capacidad para manejarla.
Charles habla sobre la diversidad dentro de la prisión y cómo cada grupo tiene su propia agenda y forma de actuar.
Rechaza la idea de que le cause dolor a las personas, argumentando que no conoce el dolor ni el sufrimiento.
Expresa su falta de remordimiento y su percepción de que no ha sido castigado por las autoridades.
Charles menciona su historial de estar en instituciones correccionales desde los 10 años y cómo lo formó.
Habla sobre su actitud hacia el dolor, viendo el 'buen dolor' como un aprendizaje necesario.
Charles niega haber pedido a las autoridades que no lo liberen, alegando que no tiene deseos de salir al mundo exterior.
Compara su situación con la de otros criminales y cómo él es visto como una reflexión de la sociedad.
Niega haber matado a nadie y cuestiona las acusaciones en su contra, sugiriendo que ha sido malinterpretado.
Charles habla sobre su percepción de la familia Manson y cómo los medios lo han distorsionado.
Expresa su desdén hacia las acusaciones de que dirigió a otros a cometer crímenes.
Charles reflexiona sobre la vida en prisión y cómo cada uno está en su propia prisión mental.
Habla sobre su actitud hacia la libertad y cómo no ha cambiado su comportamiento a lo largo de los años.
Charles expresa su perspectiva sobre la posibilidad de ser liberado y cómo lidiaría con la vida fuera de la prisión.
Finalmente, Charles reflexiona sobre su identidad y cómo es percibido por los demás, negando tener poderes mágicos o ser una figura sobrenatural.
Transcripts
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no sir reading and they suck reader say
he no we will thumbs to the gas chamber
and then they modified the death penalty
were you happy when that was done was I
happy when what was done when you found
out that you weren't going to the gas
chamber you talking about dying now it
gets me nervous
why did you have any thoughts about
something would you want to go anywhere
were you happy when you found out you
weren't gonna go to the gas chamber
Charles oh I knew I wasn't gonna go to
the gas chamber cuz I hadn't done
anything wrong
you're scared to die sometimes I feel
I'm scared to live living is what scares
me dying is easy
how long have I been in jail 34 years 34
years so out of 47 you've been here 34
I've been in jail a prison a long time
all my life I was raised up in here so I
understand jail so I understand myself
and I can deal with that I set myself
and I'd do my number like a convict does
his number but there's different colors
on different people's backs doing
different things it's a different world
I love the world I live in - just like
Regan loves the world he lives in you
love the world you live in
hmm most assuredly it's me you love all
the pain that you've caused people all
oh I don't know pain
I don't know pain I have no depth of
pain I have no depth of suffering I
don't know ridicule I don't know all the
bad things I haven't been punished by
you all my life since I was ten years
old I've been in every reform school you
got across the country and used to lay
down have to get my ass whipped ill I
couldn't walk
tell me about some paint and that's our
fault that's all no people no a fault
make strong good pain understand pain
not bad pains not bad it's good it
teaches you things
it teaches you things like when you put
your hand in fire oh you know not to do
that again yeah yeah I understand that
written accounts indicate that you told
the authorities don't let me out I can't
cope with the outside world you have a
recollection of that and they make it a
desperate plea out of something man
there's no desperate plea out of it I
say I don't know maniacs outside let me
back in III didn't use the word
desperate that's your work yeah well
you're you're inflection in your voice
tones were implications there well you
use the word maniacs on the outside how
are you different from the maniacs on
the outside and why do you call them
maniacs because you know something they
think you are one yeah it would reflect
if you hold a negative up to the light
you don't see the light you just see the
negative so I'm a reflection of your
negative there's no doubt about that and
I can handle that also I've been handle
Dana I don't know have you well I've
been up and down these damn hallways you
know now these nut lords for the last
ten years you think you could follow
that act I'm playing for my life are you
working for money when you say you're
playing for your life am I to assume
that you think that some day you're
gonna get out of here get out of here
hmm get out of here see what would you
do if you got out of here Gotti
what if they said they said to you
tomorrow morning Charles hey listen
you're free you can go wherever you want
to go do whatever you want to do what
would you do I'll probably go out front
on the grass and sit down if you got out
of here there are a lot of people who
think you'd go start killing people
again again before you guys'd
misinformed I hadn't killed anyone I
didn't break the law judge knew that but
people didn't want to hear it the judge
knew it he washed his hands he said I
don't know it but what can I do
people want dead judge never so yeah
judge knows that's what oldest is no
judge didn't say that he got off and
shook their hands didn't he you're so
white and pure judge didn't say you were
innocent are you innocent innocent of
what well that's what I'm saying none of
us are innocent yeah just because you're
convicted in a courtroom doesn't mean
you're guilty of something
does mean you're guilty well you know
you're guilty what about Shay what about
him well what about him he got killed
well the word is you killed him where it
is that you're an old woman where it is
you have Turkey and sky where it is I
don't know what word yes somebody else
tell you that I didn't tell you there to
kill Shay hell no did you cut the humans
here oh hell yes
why did how'd that feel when you cut his
ear off what did it feel like yeah well
I had done what he said for about 20
years I've done everything he told me to
do and I got to thinking now why don't
this guy do something I tell him to do
and he said no I said well how comes I'm
always doing what you tell me to do but
then you never do what I say do
and he said well blah blah blah so I
said now you do what I say and he said
no I said you do exactly what I say and
he said no I'm telling you I'm not
asking you I'm telling you you do
exactly what I said and that's about the
extent of it all it's all called all
that hocus-pocus stuff that you guys are
playing I don't know nothing about all
you know nothing about something called
helter skelter tell me Charles I don't
know it's a fairy it's worse than a
fairy it's a fairy tale it's it's it's a
comedy it's a comedy tragedy the body of
Sharon Tate is make-believe that's me
that's make me to leave that's
make-believe to the people that went in
there and did what they did and who were
those people you know yeah but you know
who they were sure I know who they were
with you at the spawn ranch they were
part of this thing called if not the
Manson Family or the Manson cult the the
Manson ranch call it was so then what
you dealt the hand down in LA you and
that press you dealt the hand you put me
on Life magazine had me convicted before
I walked in the courtroom you had what
people wanted to buy when they wanted to
buy it they didn't give it
damn - had to convict a district
attorney that had convicted the whole
building to get that dog bill going now
they had big bucks going there and made
27 million thousand hundred million I'm
bombing ten to fifteen dollars for my
friend here
here's another newspaper account that
you can now speak to since you haven't
done it before that on the night
following the killings at the house on
Cielo Drive in Los Angeles you
accompanied four people to a home
occupied by mr. and mrs. Leow LaBianca
yeah that you went inside that house and
you tied them up and assured them that
they were not going to be hurt that you
went back outside and sent Kassabian and
KRENWINKEL and Watson and madkin inside
the house to kill him true or false
did you do that
Jerris getting hot huh
did you do that did I kill anyone
no did you go in and tie up the lobby on
because that a very simple question that
night August 10th 1969 that night August
at 10:00
why don't you want to talk about it
Charles why don't you because I'm an
outlaw and I go so far and that's all
you know and if you did like asking
Jesse James and if you can inch and and
and if as others have written and as
others have testified and as the media
has reported you did that yeah and you
set your friends back in to do the deed
aren't you no Howard my friends back in
to do the terrible deed doesn't that
make your deed did we have the castle
there with the vampires and the
Frankenstein and the bugs and lizards
dying in the deserts do we have the
water that's dying and the whales are
being killed and the seals oh here we go
again lay it off on somebody else well I
went to all the other ones I'm in the
world all by myself
yeah on this one you are yeah yeah who's
okay if that's the way you see it for
you you've never talked about this
before but I'm gonna make it up try it
one more time no now you can see you
[ __ ] look at a pistol on you no sir
they wouldn't let me in here if I had a
pistol you know that as well as I do so
why even ask the question okay well I
just thought you might not like what I
don't want to do something about it I
don't much care for what you've done
yeah a lot of people don't how do you
feel about that well we don't think
you're a monster Charles yeah they think
you're a monster because you reflect
this news media on me cult leader I
never have a long hair before I got
busted I never had a beard before I got
busted I went to shaving the guys know
you can't shave yeah I need a razor
shaves no you can't save us some get a
haircut it's no don't you change your
appearance they said I had a great
family and I was the following and
leaders and all that it wasn't followers
of meters a bunch of kids out the ranch
plan to me appointment what playing it
live it do you miss women certainly good
yeah damn right yeah what are you
thinking with them oh I like them yeah
they're nice they're put together well
and everything and they're soft and
spongy yeah they're nice long to keep
the mouth shut and do what they're
supposed to do why do you say that
because that's what no one was supposed
to do keep her mouth shut and do what
she's supposed to do it sure
and besides the Sun that you had in your
marriage you've got what four other
children somewhere I don't think I've
been responsible for as much as you
people want to lay on me all right
somewhere out there somewhere there's at
least one son that we know if that's
your child who's probably about 25 or 26
years old you talk to that kid what you
gonna say it again catch it on your own
boy trains hard the roads rough that's
it that's all I knew it's all anyone
ever told me all right and you want to
hear something yeah he'll do it better
me after what whatever he does you did a
little better kids do don't they
sometimes yeah that's what makes him
such a guest they always seem to get
through how are you in school I hear
that you weren't too good but maybe I
heard it depends on which school I did
very well reform school
yeah I did good in and every place that
I was ever told to do good in I've been
an outlaw ever since I was born I went
to reform school when I was about 10 and
I learned to box and cry and I learned
to do all the things that you do in
reform school then I went to I escaped
there a bunch of times and I went to
prison and I learned everything that you
do in prison and I talked to all the
guys and asked him everything they knew
and they told me all the things they
knew and then I went to the end of it
and then the old man would be ready to
die and he and say well son sincerity is
the best gimmick remember that I said I
be sincere that's that'll win it he said
that's it sincerity and honesty said
I'll do it I'll check him every time
I said we're gonna sincere and honesty I
never tried that I tried everything else
but maybe I'll try sincere an honesty
I feel about spending the rest of your
life in prison
well we're all our own prisons we each
our own wardens and we do our own times
we used to get stuck in our own little
trips and we kind of judge ourselves the
way we do you know I can't judge nobody
else best thing I could do is try to
judge myself and live with that let's
assume that one day you were paroled
let's just roll let's just make believe
you ever think you will be yeah well I
never been paroled before I went up to
the board then they never would they
said I was incorrigible and that not
only was that incorrigible but then I'd
never grow up and I kind of agreed with
them if you got out tomorrow do you have
any scores to settle
on the outside scores you know I have
any scores out there and we're making
believe right my team buddy
well I don't rightly know I'm stupid to
the point where I'm not really sure
believe it or not there are a lot of
people on the outside that think about
the possibility of you coming out of
here and they're genuinely scared oh boy
I might just just make dust everything
terrible one little guy terrible who or
how insecure we as human beings put all
our fear on one little guy
you're Frankel any math you might break
all the toys why do you say it little
guy because I'm not the guy you trying
to make out of me
That's not me I don't know what my way
is everybody keeps telling me I got all
these things I read the other day where
I had magical powers and now I told
everybody at Apple I said zap zap zap I
said where's my magical powers to have
well you can't read and you can't
believe what you're eating the press I
can get magical powers mystical trips
and all that kind of crap yes kind of
silly yeah I'm got witches and devils
and you know one guy come up said I I
heard you said you were Jesus I said no
man I ain't said that he said I'm glad
he said that I'm damn glad I said why he
said I know you ain't him
I said how do you know he said cuz I am
I said ok but I mean you know I've been
in the network for 10 years so you can't
expect me to to rationally take this
thing seriously
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