La MEJOR Entrevista de Charles Manson [SUB ESP]

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8 Jun 202015:23

Summary

TLDREl guion ofrece una mirada profunda a la conversación con Charles Manson, un personaje controversial. Se explora su perspectiva sobre la vida, la muerte y la condena a prisión a lo largo de 34 años. Manson expresa su miedo a la vida en lugar de la muerte, y su percepción de sí mismo como un reflejo de las negatividades de la sociedad. La conversación toca temas oscuros, incluyendo crímenes y la famosa 'mansión de los Manson', revelando una visión de Manson sobre su inocencia y la manipulación mediática.

Takeaways

  • 😐 El entrevistado muestra una actitud desafiante y desapegada hacia su situación, indicando que no teme la muerte pero le da miedo vivir.
  • 🔒 Ha estado en prisión durante 34 años, lo que representa la mayor parte de su vida, y se muestra adaptado a la vida carcelaria.
  • 🤔 Afirma su inocencia en relación con los crímenes de lesa humanidad de los que se le acusa, argumentando que no ha cometido delitos ni ha ido al gas chamber.
  • 🗣️ Expresa una visión cínica de la justicia y los medios de comunicación, sugiriendo que fue condenado por la opinión pública antes de cualquier juicio.
  • 👥 Se refiere a su entorno carcelario como un mundo diferente, con sus propias reglas y dinámicas sociales, y afirma entender y manejar este entorno.
  • 🔪 Admite haber participado en actos violentos, como cortar la oreja de alguien, pero lo justifica como una acción en respuesta a la desobediencia de una orden.
  • 🚫 Rechaza la idea de que tenga influencia mágica o mística, y critica la narrativa que lo presenta como un líder de culto o poseedor de poderes sobrenaturales.
  • 👨‍👧‍👦 Muestra una actitud de desdén hacia las mujeres, considerándolas como seres inferiores que deben someterse a los hombres.
  • 🧐 Afirma que no tiene remordimientos ni se siente culpable, y que la culpa y la inocencia son conceptos subjetivos que varían según la perspectiva.
  • 🏡 Si fuera liberado, no tiene planes concretos, pero sugiere que aprecia la libertad y la naturaleza, aunque también está acostumbrado a la vida en prisión.

Q & A

  • ¿Qué es lo que Charles dice que le gusta del mundo en el que vive?

    -Charles expresa que ama el mundo en el que vive, al igual que Reagan ama el suyo, y que disfruta de la vida en prisión, a pesar de que ha estado allí durante la mayor parte de su vida.

  • ¿Por qué Charles dice que no es culpable de los crímenes de los que se le acusa?

    -Charles argumenta que no es culpable porque él no ha cometido ningún delito y que el juez conocía la verdad, pero la opinión pública y los medios de comunicación ya habían condenado su caso.

  • ¿Cómo responde Charles a la idea de que podría ser liberado y volver a la sociedad?

    -Charles menciona que si fuera liberado, probablemente saldría al césped y se sentaría, y desmiente la idea de que volvería a cometer crímenes, alegando que no ha matado a nadie.

  • ¿Qué opina Charles sobre el dolor y el sufrimiento?

    -Charles afirma que no conoce el dolor ni el sufrimiento, y que no ha sido castigado por nada malo en su vida, a pesar de haber estado en instituciones correccionales desde los 10 años.

  • ¿Qué dijo Charles sobre su relación con las mujeres?

    -Charles expresa que le gustan las mujeres porque son agradables, suaves y bien formadas, pero también menciona que deberían mantenerse calladas y hacer lo que se les dice.

  • ¿Cuál es la perspectiva de Charles sobre la educación y su experiencia en la escuela?

    -Charles menciona que tuvo problemas en la escuela, pero destaca que siempre hizo bien en las reformatorias y en los lugares donde se le decía que debía hacerlo.

  • ¿Qué dijo Charles sobre su percepción de sí mismo y cómo los demás lo ven?

    -Charles dice que es una reflexión de lo negativo que otros ven en él, y que él mismo no es el hombre que los medios de comunicación intentan pintar, a pesar de que ha sido etiquetado como un criminal y un líder de culto.

  • ¿Cómo responde Charles a las acusaciones de que dirigió a otros para cometer crímenes?

    -Charles niega haber dirigido a otros para cometer crímenes y desmiente haber participado en los actos que se le atribuyen, argumentando que él mismo no ha matado a nadie.

  • ¿Qué dijo Charles sobre su vida en prisión y cómo se la toma?

    -Charles describe su vida en prisión como algo que entiende y con lo que puede lidiar, a pesar de que ha estado allí durante 34 años, y que se ha adaptado a la vida carcelaria.

  • ¿Qué opina Charles sobre la posibilidad de que otros tengan miedo de él si fuera liberado?

    -Charles expresa sorpresa y desacuerdo ante la idea de que la gente podría tener miedo de él si fuera liberado, argumentando que es una proyección de la inseguridad de la sociedad.

Outlines

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😐 Diálogo sobre la vida en prisión y la percepción pública

Este párrafo muestra una conversación donde el entrevistado habla sobre su vida en prisión, su percepción de la libertad y la muerte. Describe su vida como un convicto que ha vivido toda su vida en la cárcel, comprendiendo así el sistema penitenciario y su propio ser. El entrevistado también discute la idea de la culpabilidad y la inocencia, y cómo la opinión pública y los medios de comunicación pueden influir en la percepción de las personas sobre él y su caso. Además, se menciona su interacción con otros presos y cómo ha aprendido de sus experiencias.

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😥 Reflexiones sobre el pasado y la familia

En este párrafo, el entrevistado aborda su relación con otros miembros de la sociedad, incluyendo la familia Manson y su papel en eventos trágicos del pasado. Se mencionan específicamente los asesinatos en la casa de Cielo Drive y la noche siguiente en la casa de los LaBianca. El entrevistado niega cualquier participación directa en los actos violentos y desvía la conversación hacia otros temas, como el trato que ha recibido de la prensa y la percepción pública, así como su relación con las mujeres y su vida familiar.

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🤔 Consideraciones sobre la vida y la libertad

El entrevistado reflexiona sobre su vida, su educación y su experiencia en la prisión. Habla de sus habilidades adquiridas en la escuela de reforma y en la prisión, y cómo estas experiencias lo han formado como persona. También menciona su filosofía de vida, donde sugiere que la sinceridad y la honestidad son herramientas poderosas. Finalmente, se explora la posibilidad de su liberación y cómo él mismo y los demás podrían reaccionar ante tal evento.

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😕 Diálogo incomprensible y fragmentos de conversación

Este párrafo presenta una serie de frases y expresiones que son difíciles de interpretar y que no siguen un tema claro o coherente. Incluye referencias a situaciones y términos que no se pueden vincular directamente con el contexto previo, lo que podría indicar una interrupción o un cambio de tema en la conversación.

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Keywords

💡Cámara de gas

Una cámara de gas es un método de ejecución en masa utilizado durante la Segunda Guerra Mundial, particularmente en campos de concentración nazis. En el guion, se menciona que el personaje no teme a la cámara de gas porque no ha hecho nada malo, lo que refleja su percepción de inocencia y su desafío hacia la justicia y la sociedad.

💡Mansión Family

La 'Mansión Family', también conocida como la 'Familia Manson', es un grupo de seguidores de Charles Manson, un líder de culto criminal. En el guion, se hace referencia a la familia Manson como parte del contexto de los crímenes que se están discutiendo, lo que indica la relevancia de este grupo en la narrativa del video.

💡Culto

Un culto es un grupo social que sigue ciegamente a un líder y sus enseñanzas, a menudo con prácticas que varían de la norma social. En el guion, el término 'culto' se relaciona con la influencia que Charles Manson ejerce sobre sus seguidores, lo que sugiere un elemento de control y manipulación.

💡Reforma

La 'reforma' se refiere a un proceso de mejora o cambio, aunque en el contexto del guion, parece referirse a instituciones de reforma, como escuelas o centros de rehabilitación para jóvenes delincuentes. El personaje menciona haber estado en 'todas las escuelas de reforma', lo que indica una vida marcada por el sistema penitenciario desde una edad temprana.

💡Pena de muerte

La 'pena de muerte' es una sentencia de ejecución que se aplica a los condenados por crímenes graves. En el guion, se discute la modificación de la pena de muerte, lo que sugiere un debate sobre la justicia y la moralidad en la sociedad, y cómo esto afecta al personaje y su percepción de la vida y la muerte.

💡Autoafirmación

La 'autoafirmación' es un acto de afirmar o afirmar la propia identidad o creencias. En el guion, el personaje habla de su amor por el mundo que vive, lo que puede interpretarse como una forma de autoafirmación de su identidad y valores, a pesar de las críticas y el rechazo de la sociedad.

💡Reflejo

El 'reflejo' es una metáfora utilizada para describir cómo el personaje ve a sí mismo en relación con la sociedad y la percepción de los demás. Él se considera un 'reflejo' de las negatividades de los demás, lo que indica una conciencia de su imagen pública y cómo es interpretado por los demás.

💡Helter Skelter

Helter Skelter es una canción de los Beatles y también se convirtió en una frase asociada con la familia Manson y sus crímenes. En el guion, el personaje niega cualquier conocimiento sobre 'Helter Skelter', lo que puede sugerir su rechazo o negación de su conexión con los eventos trágicos.

💡Reformar

La palabra 'reformar' se utiliza en el guion para describir el proceso de cambio y mejora, particularmente en el contexto de la vida en prisión. El personaje habla de 'hacer mi número', una expresión que sugiere seguir un plan o cumplir con las expectativas de comportamiento dentro del sistema penitenciario.

💡Inocencia

La 'innocencia' es la ausencia de culpa o la falta de responsabilidad por un acto. El personaje discute su inocencia en relación con los crímenes de los que se le acusa, lo que subraya un tema central de justicia y verdad en la narrativa del video.

Highlights

El personaje refleja la sociedad y su percepción de él como un reflejo de sus propias negatividades.

Charles expresa su miedo a la vida en lugar de la muerte, destacando la facilidad de la muerte en comparación con la vida.

Muestra su comprensión y aceptación de la prisión como su entorno de crianza y su capacidad para manejarla.

Charles habla sobre la diversidad dentro de la prisión y cómo cada grupo tiene su propia agenda y forma de actuar.

Rechaza la idea de que le cause dolor a las personas, argumentando que no conoce el dolor ni el sufrimiento.

Expresa su falta de remordimiento y su percepción de que no ha sido castigado por las autoridades.

Charles menciona su historial de estar en instituciones correccionales desde los 10 años y cómo lo formó.

Habla sobre su actitud hacia el dolor, viendo el 'buen dolor' como un aprendizaje necesario.

Charles niega haber pedido a las autoridades que no lo liberen, alegando que no tiene deseos de salir al mundo exterior.

Compara su situación con la de otros criminales y cómo él es visto como una reflexión de la sociedad.

Niega haber matado a nadie y cuestiona las acusaciones en su contra, sugiriendo que ha sido malinterpretado.

Charles habla sobre su percepción de la familia Manson y cómo los medios lo han distorsionado.

Expresa su desdén hacia las acusaciones de que dirigió a otros a cometer crímenes.

Charles reflexiona sobre la vida en prisión y cómo cada uno está en su propia prisión mental.

Habla sobre su actitud hacia la libertad y cómo no ha cambiado su comportamiento a lo largo de los años.

Charles expresa su perspectiva sobre la posibilidad de ser liberado y cómo lidiaría con la vida fuera de la prisión.

Finalmente, Charles reflexiona sobre su identidad y cómo es percibido por los demás, negando tener poderes mágicos o ser una figura sobrenatural.

Transcripts

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it is enjoyed an opponent is a character

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chorsman story communitarian panini ple

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people Liberty dubbing ki favorite

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reverse Italy para poner una can end in

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doses are written in Teresa

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no sir reading and they suck reader say

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he no we will thumbs to the gas chamber

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and then they modified the death penalty

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were you happy when that was done was I

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happy when what was done when you found

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out that you weren't going to the gas

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chamber you talking about dying now it

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gets me nervous

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why did you have any thoughts about

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something would you want to go anywhere

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were you happy when you found out you

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weren't gonna go to the gas chamber

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Charles oh I knew I wasn't gonna go to

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the gas chamber cuz I hadn't done

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anything wrong

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you're scared to die sometimes I feel

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I'm scared to live living is what scares

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me dying is easy

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how long have I been in jail 34 years 34

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years so out of 47 you've been here 34

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I've been in jail a prison a long time

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all my life I was raised up in here so I

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understand jail so I understand myself

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and I can deal with that I set myself

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and I'd do my number like a convict does

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his number but there's different colors

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on different people's backs doing

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different things it's a different world

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I love the world I live in - just like

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Regan loves the world he lives in you

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love the world you live in

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hmm most assuredly it's me you love all

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the pain that you've caused people all

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oh I don't know pain

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I don't know pain I have no depth of

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pain I have no depth of suffering I

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don't know ridicule I don't know all the

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bad things I haven't been punished by

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you all my life since I was ten years

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old I've been in every reform school you

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got across the country and used to lay

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down have to get my ass whipped ill I

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couldn't walk

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tell me about some paint and that's our

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fault that's all no people no a fault

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make strong good pain understand pain

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not bad pains not bad it's good it

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teaches you things

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it teaches you things like when you put

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your hand in fire oh you know not to do

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that again yeah yeah I understand that

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written accounts indicate that you told

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the authorities don't let me out I can't

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cope with the outside world you have a

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recollection of that and they make it a

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desperate plea out of something man

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there's no desperate plea out of it I

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say I don't know maniacs outside let me

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back in III didn't use the word

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desperate that's your work yeah well

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you're you're inflection in your voice

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tones were implications there well you

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use the word maniacs on the outside how

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are you different from the maniacs on

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the outside and why do you call them

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maniacs because you know something they

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think you are one yeah it would reflect

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if you hold a negative up to the light

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you don't see the light you just see the

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negative so I'm a reflection of your

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negative there's no doubt about that and

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I can handle that also I've been handle

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Dana I don't know have you well I've

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been up and down these damn hallways you

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know now these nut lords for the last

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ten years you think you could follow

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that act I'm playing for my life are you

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working for money when you say you're

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playing for your life am I to assume

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that you think that some day you're

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gonna get out of here get out of here

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hmm get out of here see what would you

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do if you got out of here Gotti

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what if they said they said to you

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tomorrow morning Charles hey listen

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you're free you can go wherever you want

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to go do whatever you want to do what

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would you do I'll probably go out front

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on the grass and sit down if you got out

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of here there are a lot of people who

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think you'd go start killing people

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again again before you guys'd

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misinformed I hadn't killed anyone I

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didn't break the law judge knew that but

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people didn't want to hear it the judge

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knew it he washed his hands he said I

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don't know it but what can I do

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people want dead judge never so yeah

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judge knows that's what oldest is no

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judge didn't say that he got off and

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shook their hands didn't he you're so

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white and pure judge didn't say you were

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innocent are you innocent innocent of

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what well that's what I'm saying none of

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us are innocent yeah just because you're

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convicted in a courtroom doesn't mean

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you're guilty of something

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does mean you're guilty well you know

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you're guilty what about Shay what about

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him well what about him he got killed

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well the word is you killed him where it

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is that you're an old woman where it is

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you have Turkey and sky where it is I

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don't know what word yes somebody else

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tell you that I didn't tell you there to

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kill Shay hell no did you cut the humans

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here oh hell yes

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why did how'd that feel when you cut his

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ear off what did it feel like yeah well

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I had done what he said for about 20

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years I've done everything he told me to

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do and I got to thinking now why don't

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this guy do something I tell him to do

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and he said no I said well how comes I'm

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always doing what you tell me to do but

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then you never do what I say do

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and he said well blah blah blah so I

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said now you do what I say and he said

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no I said you do exactly what I say and

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he said no I'm telling you I'm not

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asking you I'm telling you you do

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exactly what I said and that's about the

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extent of it all it's all called all

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that hocus-pocus stuff that you guys are

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playing I don't know nothing about all

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you know nothing about something called

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helter skelter tell me Charles I don't

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know it's a fairy it's worse than a

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fairy it's a fairy tale it's it's it's a

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comedy it's a comedy tragedy the body of

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Sharon Tate is make-believe that's me

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that's make me to leave that's

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make-believe to the people that went in

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there and did what they did and who were

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those people you know yeah but you know

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who they were sure I know who they were

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with you at the spawn ranch they were

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part of this thing called if not the

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Manson Family or the Manson cult the the

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Manson ranch call it was so then what

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you dealt the hand down in LA you and

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that press you dealt the hand you put me

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on Life magazine had me convicted before

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I walked in the courtroom you had what

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people wanted to buy when they wanted to

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buy it they didn't give it

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damn - had to convict a district

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attorney that had convicted the whole

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building to get that dog bill going now

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they had big bucks going there and made

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27 million thousand hundred million I'm

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bombing ten to fifteen dollars for my

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friend here

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here's another newspaper account that

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you can now speak to since you haven't

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done it before that on the night

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following the killings at the house on

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Cielo Drive in Los Angeles you

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accompanied four people to a home

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occupied by mr. and mrs. Leow LaBianca

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yeah that you went inside that house and

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you tied them up and assured them that

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they were not going to be hurt that you

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went back outside and sent Kassabian and

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KRENWINKEL and Watson and madkin inside

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the house to kill him true or false

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did you do that

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Jerris getting hot huh

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did you do that did I kill anyone

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no did you go in and tie up the lobby on

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because that a very simple question that

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night August 10th 1969 that night August

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at 10:00

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why don't you want to talk about it

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Charles why don't you because I'm an

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outlaw and I go so far and that's all

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you know and if you did like asking

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Jesse James and if you can inch and and

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and if as others have written and as

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others have testified and as the media

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has reported you did that yeah and you

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set your friends back in to do the deed

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aren't you no Howard my friends back in

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to do the terrible deed doesn't that

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make your deed did we have the castle

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there with the vampires and the

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Frankenstein and the bugs and lizards

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dying in the deserts do we have the

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water that's dying and the whales are

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being killed and the seals oh here we go

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again lay it off on somebody else well I

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went to all the other ones I'm in the

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world all by myself

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yeah on this one you are yeah yeah who's

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okay if that's the way you see it for

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you you've never talked about this

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before but I'm gonna make it up try it

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one more time no now you can see you

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[ __ ] look at a pistol on you no sir

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they wouldn't let me in here if I had a

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pistol you know that as well as I do so

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why even ask the question okay well I

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just thought you might not like what I

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don't want to do something about it I

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don't much care for what you've done

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yeah a lot of people don't how do you

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feel about that well we don't think

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you're a monster Charles yeah they think

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you're a monster because you reflect

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this news media on me cult leader I

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never have a long hair before I got

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busted I never had a beard before I got

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busted I went to shaving the guys know

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you can't shave yeah I need a razor

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shaves no you can't save us some get a

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haircut it's no don't you change your

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appearance they said I had a great

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family and I was the following and

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leaders and all that it wasn't followers

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of meters a bunch of kids out the ranch

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plan to me appointment what playing it

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live it do you miss women certainly good

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yeah damn right yeah what are you

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thinking with them oh I like them yeah

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they're nice they're put together well

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and everything and they're soft and

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spongy yeah they're nice long to keep

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the mouth shut and do what they're

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supposed to do why do you say that

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because that's what no one was supposed

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to do keep her mouth shut and do what

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she's supposed to do it sure

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and besides the Sun that you had in your

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marriage you've got what four other

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children somewhere I don't think I've

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been responsible for as much as you

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people want to lay on me all right

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somewhere out there somewhere there's at

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least one son that we know if that's

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your child who's probably about 25 or 26

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years old you talk to that kid what you

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gonna say it again catch it on your own

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boy trains hard the roads rough that's

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it that's all I knew it's all anyone

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ever told me all right and you want to

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hear something yeah he'll do it better

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me after what whatever he does you did a

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little better kids do don't they

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sometimes yeah that's what makes him

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such a guest they always seem to get

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through how are you in school I hear

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that you weren't too good but maybe I

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heard it depends on which school I did

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very well reform school

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yeah I did good in and every place that

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I was ever told to do good in I've been

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an outlaw ever since I was born I went

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to reform school when I was about 10 and

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I learned to box and cry and I learned

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to do all the things that you do in

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reform school then I went to I escaped

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there a bunch of times and I went to

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prison and I learned everything that you

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do in prison and I talked to all the

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guys and asked him everything they knew

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and they told me all the things they

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knew and then I went to the end of it

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and then the old man would be ready to

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die and he and say well son sincerity is

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the best gimmick remember that I said I

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be sincere that's that'll win it he said

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that's it sincerity and honesty said

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I'll do it I'll check him every time

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I said we're gonna sincere and honesty I

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never tried that I tried everything else

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but maybe I'll try sincere an honesty

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I feel about spending the rest of your

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life in prison

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well we're all our own prisons we each

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our own wardens and we do our own times

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we used to get stuck in our own little

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trips and we kind of judge ourselves the

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way we do you know I can't judge nobody

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else best thing I could do is try to

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judge myself and live with that let's

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assume that one day you were paroled

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let's just roll let's just make believe

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you ever think you will be yeah well I

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never been paroled before I went up to

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the board then they never would they

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said I was incorrigible and that not

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only was that incorrigible but then I'd

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never grow up and I kind of agreed with

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them if you got out tomorrow do you have

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any scores to settle

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on the outside scores you know I have

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any scores out there and we're making

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believe right my team buddy

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well I don't rightly know I'm stupid to

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the point where I'm not really sure

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believe it or not there are a lot of

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people on the outside that think about

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the possibility of you coming out of

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here and they're genuinely scared oh boy

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I might just just make dust everything

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terrible one little guy terrible who or

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how insecure we as human beings put all

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our fear on one little guy

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you're Frankel any math you might break

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all the toys why do you say it little

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guy because I'm not the guy you trying

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to make out of me

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That's not me I don't know what my way

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is everybody keeps telling me I got all

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these things I read the other day where

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I had magical powers and now I told

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everybody at Apple I said zap zap zap I

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said where's my magical powers to have

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well you can't read and you can't

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believe what you're eating the press I

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can get magical powers mystical trips

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and all that kind of crap yes kind of

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silly yeah I'm got witches and devils

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and you know one guy come up said I I

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heard you said you were Jesus I said no

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man I ain't said that he said I'm glad

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he said that I'm damn glad I said why he

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said I know you ain't him

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I said how do you know he said cuz I am

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I said ok but I mean you know I've been

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in the network for 10 years so you can't

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expect me to to rationally take this

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thing seriously

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