1uz non vvti Block differences between Series 1 and series 2

CartuneNZ
26 Oct 202213:10

Summary

TLDRIn this video, Calvin from the Catching Company in New Zealand, along with Jason, discusses the differences between Toyota's Gen 1 and Gen 2 engine blocks, specifically focusing on the 1UZ-FE engine. They highlight the changes in block casting, including the introduction of holes in the Gen 2 block for weight reduction and potential harmonic improvements. The discussion also touches on the transition from thick to thin connecting rods and the lighter pistons and crankshaft in Gen 2 engines. The hosts compare various engine components, noting similarities and differences, and speculate on the reasons behind Toyota's design choices without definitive answers, inviting viewer input and further exploration.

Takeaways

  • πŸ”§ The main difference between a Gen 2 and a Gen 1 block is the presence of additional holes in the Gen 2 block, which makes it lighter.
  • πŸ“… The transition from Gen 1 to Gen 2 blocks occurred around the 9th month of 1994, with the changes appearing in the USA market in 1995.
  • 🏎️ The Gen 2 block was introduced alongside lighter connecting rods and pistons, enhancing engine performance.
  • πŸ”© The change from Gen 1 to Gen 2 is marked by the switch from thick to thin connecting rods, which is also seen in the LS400s and SC400s models.
  • 🏭 The block casting for both Gen 1 and Gen 2 is believed to be the same, with modifications made for specific engine components.
  • πŸ”§ The Gen 3 or VVT-i blocks further lightened the crankshaft by 1.5 kg and modified the oil galleries.
  • 🧐 The additional holes in the Gen 2 block are speculated to be for block harmonics or windage pressure, although this is not confirmed.
  • πŸ” The script suggests that the Gen 2 block is preferred by some dirt track Speedway racers due to its design.
  • πŸ“ The block's underside has distinguishing features, such as the presence of holes, which are not found in the Gen 1 block.
  • βš™οΈ The script highlights the importance of matching bearing sizes when rebuilding engines, as indicated by markings on the blocks.

Q & A

  • What is the main difference between a Gen 1 and Gen 2 engine block in Toyota's 1UZ series?

    -The main difference is the presence of additional holes in the Gen 2 block, which makes it lighter.

  • Why did Toyota introduce changes in the engine block design from Gen 1 to Gen 2?

    -Toyota made changes to improve the engine's performance, specifically by introducing lighter rods and pistons.

  • In which year did the change from Gen 1 to Gen 2 engine blocks occur in the USA market?

    -The change occurred in the USA market in 1995, registered as 95 year models.

  • What is the significance of the additional holes in the Gen 2 engine block?

    -The additional holes are believed to be for either weight reduction or to change the harmonics of the block.

  • Is there a difference in the oiling and water holes between Gen 1 and Gen 2 engine blocks?

    -No, the oiling and water holes in the top of the engine blocks appear to be the same between Gen 1 and Gen 2.

  • What are the differences in the main cap design between Gen 1 and Gen 2 engine blocks?

    -The Gen 2 has chamfering and no recess, while the Gen 1 has a flat edge with recesses.

  • What is the purpose of the numbers found on the engine blocks?

    -The numbers indicate the bearing sizes fitted at the factory, which can vary and are not necessarily the same across all engine blocks.

  • Why might some engine blocks have different numbers indicating bearing sizes?

    -The different numbers could be due to mass production machining differences, where the factory adjusts the bearing sizes to meet specific tolerances.

  • Are there any differences in the block casting between the VVT-i and non-VVT-i versions of the 1UZ engine?

    -The VVT-i block casting is almost the same as the non-VVT-i, but it has modifications for the oil galleries.

  • What is the significance of the bolt-on drain in the engine blocks?

    -The bolt-on drain is an additional feature compared to the Gen 1 block and is part of the block's design for oil management.

Outlines

00:00

πŸ”§ Differences Between Gen 1 and Gen 2 Toyota Blocks

The first paragraph discusses the differences between Toyota engine blocks, specifically the Gen 1 and Gen 2. The speaker, Calvin from a New Zealand catching company, explains that the Gen 2 block has additional holes, making it lighter. These changes were introduced in the LS400s and CLC models around September 1994, with the Gen 2 featuring thinner rods and pistons. The block castings for Gen 1 and Gen 2 are largely the same, with the main difference being the presence of holes in the Gen 2 block. The discussion also touches on the sequential ECU and the transition from Gen 1 to Gen 2 in terms of engine components like rods and crankshafts.

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πŸ‹οΈβ€β™‚οΈ Detailed Comparison of Engine Block Castings

In the second paragraph, the focus is on a detailed comparison of the engine block castings. It is noted that the top of the blocks, including the oiling and water holes, are similar between Gen 1 and Gen 2. However, the underside of the blocks reveals the presence of additional holes in the Gen 2 block, which may be related to windage pressure or block harmonics. The speaker speculates that these changes could be due to a desire for lighter components or to adjust the harmonics of the engine block. The discussion also includes observations on the main cap design differences and the presence of matching holes that are not part of the casting itself.

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πŸ”© Engine Block Markings and Bearing Specifications

The third paragraph delves into the markings found on the engine blocks, which are related to the bearings fitted at the factory. These markings indicate different bearing sizes, which can vary from block to block. The speaker mentions that these markings can be confusing for those who are not familiar with them, but they are essential for ensuring the correct bearings are used during engine assembly. The conversation also touches on the importance of using genuine parts and the potential issues that can arise from using aftermarket bearings with different specifications. The paragraph concludes with a note on the practicality of identifying block differences and the value of such knowledge.

Mindmap

Keywords

πŸ’‘Gene One Block

The 'Gene One Block' refers to the first generation engine block design discussed in the video. It is characterized by a specific set of features, including a particular design of holes and a main cap. The video compares this block to the 'Gene Two Block' to highlight the differences in design and functionality. For instance, the script mentions that the Gene One Block lacks the extra holes present in the Gene Two Block, which is a key distinguishing feature.

πŸ’‘Gene Two Block

The 'Gene Two Block' is the second generation engine block design that the video compares to the Gene One Block. It is noted for having additional holes that are not present in the Gene One Block, which suggests a change in the design for potentially improved performance or weight reduction. The video discusses how these changes might have been made to improve the engine's performance or reduce weight, as indicated by the script's mention of a 'lighter block'.

πŸ’‘Block Casting

Block casting refers to the process of manufacturing engine blocks through casting methods. The video discusses differences between the castings of Gene One and Gene Two blocks, suggesting that while there are modifications, they may have originated from the same casting process. The script points out that the main difference lies in the presence of extra holes in the Gene Two Block, which could be a result of casting modifications.

πŸ’‘Camshaft

The camshaft is a part of the engine that controls the opening and closing of the engine's valves. In the context of the video, the speaker mentions moving to the camshaft to discuss the differences between the Gene One and Gene Two blocks. This suggests that the camshaft's position or design might be influenced by the block's design, which is a critical aspect of engine performance.

πŸ’‘Crankshaft

The crankshaft is a major component of the engine that translates the reciprocating motion of the pistons into rotational motion. The video script mentions that the crankshaft in Gene Two engines is almost identical to that in Gene One engines, with the only difference being the part numbers. This implies that the crankshaft's design has not significantly changed between the two generations, which is important for maintaining engine balance and performance.

πŸ’‘VVT-i

VVT-i stands for Variable Valve Timing with intelligence, a technology used in Toyota engines to improve performance and efficiency. The video discusses how the VVT-i system's implementation might have influenced the engine block design, particularly in the Gene Three blocks where the block casting was modified for the oil galleries to accommodate the VVT-i system. This highlights the interplay between engine technology and physical engine design.

πŸ’‘Main Bearings

Main bearings are components that support the crankshaft within the engine block. The video script mentions that there are differences in the main bearings between certain engine blocks, indicated by the numbers stamped on the blocks. These differences in bearing sizes are crucial for ensuring proper engine operation and can affect the engine's performance and longevity.

πŸ’‘Bore Thickness

Bore thickness refers to the thickness of the engine block's cylinder walls. The video script alludes to a future video discussing bore thickness and material differences, suggesting that these factors are important for engine durability and performance. Thicker bores can handle higher cylinder pressures, which is particularly relevant for high-performance or modified engines.

πŸ’‘Oil Galleries

Oil galleries are channels within the engine block that distribute oil to various engine components. The video discusses modifications to the oil galleries in the Gene Two and VVT-i blocks, indicating that these changes were made to improve oil distribution and engine lubrication. Proper oiling is critical for reducing friction and wear within the engine.

πŸ’‘Windage

Windage refers to the resistance created by the movement of air within the engine's crankcase. The video speculates that the extra holes in the Gene Two block might be related to windage reduction, which could improve engine efficiency by reducing the power lost to air resistance. This highlights the video's focus on the subtle design changes that can have significant impacts on engine performance.

Highlights

Difference between gene two and gene one block is the set of holes

Gene two block has extra holes, making it lighter

Main cap design differs between gene one and gene two

Toyota released an upgraded block in 1994 for the USA market in 1995

Upgraded block has lighter rods and pistons for better performance

Change from thick to thin rods occurred in 1994 for LS400s and CLCs

Sequential ECU introduced with wider body for SC 400s

Gen 1 and Gen 2 engines have almost identical crankshafts

Gen 3 engines have a lighter crankshaft by 1.5 kilos

VVT-i engines have modified block casting for oil galleries

Gen 1 and Gen 2 blocks likely came from the same casting

Discussion on Facebook about block casting differences

Gen 1 block has corrosion and pitting, deemed scrap

Gen 2 block stripped from an engine for comparison

No difference in oiling and water holes between Gen 1 and Gen 2

Ribbing and block mounting points are the same in both generations

Difference in holes underneath the block between Gen 1 and Gen 2

Cap design differences noted between Gen 1 and Gen 2

Extra holes in Gen 2 block possibly for block harmonics

1UZ VVT-i block also has the same holes as Gen 2

Discussion on why extra holes were added in Gen 2 blocks

Bolt-on oil gallery knock senses are a feature of Gen 2 blocks

Numbers on blocks related to bearing sizes at the factory

Importance of matching bearing sizes when replacing

Useless information provided for educational purposes

Transcripts

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the difference between a gene two

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and a gene one block

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is these set of holes here

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so there

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that means change extra holes in it

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we'll also see the main cap see the

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design of the main kit though that isn't

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part of the block casting is it this is

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casting so that that is our difference

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there

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but you'll see here the the design here

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we've got

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Reese's

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no recess in a different shape so that's

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the quick version of Gene one block Gene

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two block

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s through the box

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good question isn't it what is it for

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well I'm going over to camshaft on the

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bottom

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yeah

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get it guys it's Calvin

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from the catching company in New Zealand

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oh and Jason and Jason too both of us

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and we were just we were fortunate

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enough to have lots of bits lying around

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and so sit them next to each other so we

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can compare and share some of the

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knowledge which is kind of disappearing

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on this older stuff Toyota at some point

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would have done a release and said hey

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the block on the one you zdfe and the

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1994 relief production year

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released in the USA in 1995 it had this

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upgrade at the block has been changed to

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improve something

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and it's because they put some holes in

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it or it's a lighter block

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which it is a lighter block because it's

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got some holes in it

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so to Define

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series one and series two or gen 1 and

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Gen 2 use it

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it's the change between the thick rods

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and the thin rods

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and this happened in the ls400s and the

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CLC is around about uh it was the ninth

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month of 1994 to be exact but in the USA

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you'll see it in uh

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registered 95 so 95 year 95s model year

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also happened in the soras SC 400s when

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they went to the sequential ECU which is

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the wider body ECU

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then the crowns the 131 and the 141 were

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gen 1 and the 151 non-vtiser Gene 2.

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and so not only did Toyota that's when

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Toyota put the

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lighter rods and the lighter pistons in

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which Reeve better in an inner form

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so that's what we mean when we go Gene

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two engines got the one with the load of

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rods and motorists crankshaft

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pretty much identical it's probably

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easier just to say they are the same

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crank

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um they are different part numbers

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but it's very hard to tell the

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difference between the two

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it is the gene threes or the vvtis where

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they lighten the crank by one and a half

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kilos but we're focusing on the block

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casting

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the vvti's block casting is is almost

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the same but of course they've modified

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it for the oil galleries for the vvti

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threeuz they put a bigger hole in it but

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all this the same casting and the Gen

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one and gen 2 blocks

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I believe came from the same casting

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so

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I actually asked on a Facebook post and

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if there was a difference

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and some guys were brave enough to

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actually say no there's no difference

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even though they're wrong that's a

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pretty brave move

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uh but

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the a lot of guys were guessing and I

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had some pictures

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um and I asked specifically on the block

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casting not into the VVT ice but

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specifically on the block casting

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between a gene one and a gene 2.

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this is a gen one

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it does look like it's been under the

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sea because I would almost say that

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these corroded just about through the

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oil gallery knock senses are a bolt on

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and we haven't removed them because this

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block is scrap that's going to rubbish

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it's got massive pitting in the walls

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this is 100 a Gen 2 block stripped from

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a Gen 2 engine

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some people suggested there was a

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difference in

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the holes in the top

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you know I can see no difference between

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the oiling and the water holes in the

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top

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between the two engines I can't see any

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shapes of the saw the same

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I believe the bores the sleeves are the

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same

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in here all the ribbing is the same all

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the same block mounting points exist

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certainly on the front

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everything is the same there as well and

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all accessories bolt on

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down the sides

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they are the same though have you seen

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the ones that don't have the holes

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so these holes here

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foreign

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and are used on the crown the 131 Crown

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to mount

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uh the oilfield housing

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some blocks don't have that tapped so

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that could actually be seen as a

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difference but it's not between Gene one

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and Gene 2.

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it's specific to some

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some models that seem to randomly not

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have them tapped

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other side

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I was in such a hurry today I didn't

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even managed to get my workflix on

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we just uh try not to smash the torch

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same thing here

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same thing along here

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they're all the same so the difference

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comes in The Underneath

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rolly Rolly Polly but this is a gene one

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this is the gene one

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you go back here

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and there is no hole board in that

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location there

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no wrong

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it's there oh sorry is it look oh yes

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okay yeah

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yes it's there sorry that location there

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that's where the holes board and it

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continues

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on the Gen 2

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through single one two three four five

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so it goes through number five

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through number four number three

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but not number two

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so I was thinking possibly for windage

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pressure

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between

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um

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the compartments of the engine but it

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doesn't make sense not to put it through

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the front one

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if we look at the cap design we do see a

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difference

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we've got some chamfering

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and we've got

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no recess it's flat on the edges in here

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we still have the place for some oil to

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get into the thrust washers

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whereas these ones are square

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and

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got some recesses

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and a big recess in here still the same

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oil ports for the thrust washer or

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places where all can get in

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but it comes down to these these holes

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is the main one and of course this isn't

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part of the casting it's just

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interesting to note because they are

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matched with the block

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and I haven't compared if it changed

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part way through the teens but I suspect

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that's a 20 only

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and we have the hole there there and

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there

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I actually think

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um

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it's it's to do with either they were

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going for lighter so they found

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somewhere but I actually think it was to

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do with block harmonics

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this is my guess

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something to do with the different

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reciprocating Mass change the harmonics

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of the block slightly and that's how

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they solve the problem

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possibility

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correct I need to find a Toyota engineer

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who worked on these and can tell us why

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on the gentose

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they made those couple of changes

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and interesting enough guys we do have a

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1uz vvti block here

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and it does have those same holes I

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can't tell you on the 3z we didn't check

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all right if I checked I didn't remember

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um hey I'd love to hear some thoughts on

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what you guys think of why they put

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those extra holes in if anyone's got any

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documentation I would love to see that

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we're actually working on a video too on

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the

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the bore thickness and the material

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between the cylinders on a 3z

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and this one actually fits in really

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nicely with that

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um

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we could always say that the drain

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is different too but it's a bolt-on

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oh

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it has a bolt on it's an extra compared

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to the gene one

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it's definitely that whole

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the reason I found out about this

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actually is is because the stock carbo

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is the dirt track Speedway guys

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some of them

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seek that Gen 2 block

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and

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that is where this one is distant it's

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got some Rust marks but it's going to be

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bored and probably make about 500

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horsepower in a when it's finished

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few other interesting things to note on

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these blocks too is a series of numbers

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and this is to do with the bearings

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has to do with the big end bearings that

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are fitted

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and I believe these ones are to do with

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the main bearings that are fitted so

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they they aren't someone afterwards that

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is actually done at the factory that's

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scribbling on the Block

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oh see this has got a 2223

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and this is where we've got a two two

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two

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so it's got a a three bearing size three

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on the back

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upper is that the that's the upper a

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that's the lowest that's the upper so

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it's got one bearing size different

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on that one

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um

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so quite a different set of bearings

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I think you'll find most titles

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we have that stamp on the walls yeah

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yeah

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um it kind of freaks people out a little

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bit or they question it when they get a

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block and they pull it apart they think

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it's a virgin

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and there's some numbers on it like that

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they're like What's what is it what are

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these numbers yeah

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of course we work on lots of Toyotas so

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we we're quite used to it just like yeah

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and then you get a set of aftermarket

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bearings and you put them the same size

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everywhere

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which can get you out which can catch

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you out yeah did your engine have

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you mix it all up your bearings and it

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was all the same or not

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uh this this might have got a new cranks

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are not everything was all good I just

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like it was machinists cool

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yeah

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but yeah it's got all sounds like rooms

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in it yeah and of course that was just

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to allow for Machining

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Mass Production Machining differences so

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they must have had someone at the

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factory actually measuring

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bearing clearances and going no that

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one's not quite right

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you can't just go to toilet you've got

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to buy if you're buying genuines yeah

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buying genuines you want to buy say if

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you have a block and it was like two

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four three two you're gonna buy Six

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appearance

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yep

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I think it's quite expensive quite

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quickly yes

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so I hope that's been helpful a bit of

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useless information

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but if you had to tell the blocks apart

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it is possible to do that talk to you

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soon catch you later

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