Studying Kanji is a Waste of Time

Trenton《トレントン》
30 Aug 202411:05

Summary

TLDRThis video script challenges the conventional wisdom that mastering Japanese kanji is an arduous task requiring extensive memorization. The speaker argues that traditional study methods are inefficient and suggests an alternative approach: learning kanji through vocabulary acquisition. By focusing on words rather than individual characters, learners can more efficiently and effectively read Japanese. The speaker supports this claim with personal experience and cites a Japanese teacher's advice, emphasizing the importance of context over rote memorization. The script also touches on the complexities of kanji readings and offers strategies for making educated guesses, advocating for a more practical and engaging way to learn Japanese.

Takeaways

  • 😨 The fear of learning Japanese kanji is often exaggerated, but it is still challenging.
  • 📚 Traditional methods of learning kanji, such as rote memorization of individual characters and their readings, are inefficient.
  • 🔍 Many people struggle with kanji because they try to learn each character in isolation, which is not practical for reading real Japanese text.
  • 📈 Learning kanji through vocabulary acquisition is more effective, as it allows learners to encounter characters in context and build recognition over time.
  • 🚫 There is no need to study kanji individually if the goal is to read Japanese; focusing on vocabulary is more beneficial.
  • 💡 The speaker suggests that learning to read kanji should not precede learning to write them, as it is more practical to learn to write characters only after becoming fluent in reading.
  • 📝 The speaker's personal experience with dedicated kanji study was not fruitful, leading to a shift towards vocabulary-focused learning.
  • 🗣️ A Japanese teacher featured in the script also advocates for learning vocabulary over individual kanji, emphasizing that even knowing all kanji readings does not guarantee the ability to read Japanese.
  • 📚 The process of learning kanji through vocabulary involves using tools like Anki for spaced repetition and actively reading Japanese text to reinforce learning.
  • 🎲 The existence of games like 'Kanji to Go,' which challenge players to guess kanji readings, highlights the complexity and sometimes arbitrary nature of kanji readings.

Q & A

  • Why does the speaker believe that studying kanji is often considered a waste of time?

    -The speaker believes studying kanji is a waste of time because many people use inefficient methods, such as memorizing individual kanji characters with all their readings and radicals, which is time-consuming and doesn't necessarily lead to the ability to read real Japanese text effectively.

  • What is the common misconception about the number of kanji characters and their readings?

    -The common misconception is that there are millions of kanji characters, each with numerous readings, making it seem like an impossible task to learn them all. However, the reality is that there are a more manageable number of characters, and the number of readings per character is often exaggerated.

  • How does the speaker suggest learning kanji more effectively?

    -The speaker suggests learning kanji more effectively by focusing on vocabulary words as they come up, rather than studying individual kanji in isolation. This approach allows learners to encounter kanji in context, which helps in understanding their usage and readings.

  • What is the role of Anki in the speaker's recommended learning method?

    -Anki is recommended as a tool for learning vocabulary words. It helps in memorizing words and their kanji components, which in turn aids in learning how to read kanji without dedicated study.

  • Why does the speaker argue that learning stroke order and radicals might not be necessary for reading kanji?

    -The speaker argues that learning stroke order and radicals might not be necessary for reading kanji because if the goal is to read rather than write, these aspects do not significantly contribute to recognizing and understanding kanji in written text.

  • What is the difference between kunyomi and onyomi readings in kanji?

    -Kunyomi are readings for native Japanese words, while onyomi are readings for words that were imported from Chinese. The speaker suggests that understanding this distinction can help in making educated guesses about the readings of compound words.

  • How does the speaker's personal experience with learning Japanese support their argument against dedicated kanji study?

    -The speaker's personal experience shows that they were able to learn to read Japanese effectively by focusing on vocabulary and not on dedicated kanji study. This supports their argument that learning kanji through vocabulary is more efficient.

  • What is the 'Kanji Grid' add-on in Anki and how does it help in learning kanji?

    -The 'Kanji Grid' add-on in Anki generates a visual representation of all the kanji found in one's Anki deck, allowing learners to see the kanji they have encountered and learned through vocabulary. It helps in gauging progress and understanding the kanji one is familiar with.

  • What is the game 'Kanji to Go' and how does it relate to learning kanji?

    -Kanji to Go is a game where players guess the readings of kanji. It is mentioned as a fun way to test one's ability to read kanji and to learn about less common readings, indicating that even native speakers can find it challenging, which supports the idea that learning kanji through vocabulary is a more practical approach.

  • Why does the speaker suggest waiting until fluency in written Japanese to learn how to write kanji?

    -The speaker suggests waiting to learn how to write kanji until fluency in written Japanese is achieved because the focus should be on reading comprehension first. Writing kanji without understanding them in context can be less practical and more challenging.

Outlines

00:00

📚 Debunking Kanji Study Myths

The paragraph discusses the common misconception that studying kanji is a daunting task due to the vast number of characters and readings. It argues that traditional methods of learning kanji are inefficient, and suggests an alternative approach of learning vocabulary to naturally acquire kanji knowledge. The speaker shares their personal experience of struggling with kanji until they switched to learning words, which led to a better grasp of kanji readings without direct study. The paragraph also touches on the idea that learning stroke order or radicals is not necessary for reading comprehension and that it's more practical to learn these once fluency in reading is achieved.

05:03

📈 Learning Kanji Through Vocabulary

This section of the script outlines a more practical approach to learning kanji by focusing on vocabulary acquisition. It emphasizes the use of spaced repetition software like Anki and the importance of reading extensively to reinforce learning. The speaker explains that as one learns more words, kanji characters become more recognizable, and one can start guessing readings even of unfamiliar words. The concept of kunyomi and onomi readings is introduced as a tool for making educated guesses about kanji readings. The paragraph also discusses the limitations of this method, acknowledging that there are exceptions and that certainty comes from direct lookup. The speaker shares a personal anecdote about using Anki and the Kanji Grid add-on to visualize their progress in learning kanji.

10:06

🎮 The Futility of Isolated Kanji Learning

The final paragraph reinforces the idea that learning kanji in isolation is not effective for reading comprehension. It mentions a game called 'Kanji to Go' that challenges players to guess kanji readings, indicating the complexity and variability of kanji readings even for native speakers. The speaker concludes by suggesting that a video on reading comprehension is forthcoming and encourages viewers to leave comments with questions. The paragraph ends with a casual sign-off, inviting further discussion on the topic.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Kanji

Kanji refers to the adopted logographic Chinese characters that are used in the Japanese writing system. In the video, the speaker argues that the traditional method of studying kanji is inefficient and time-consuming. The video suggests that learning kanji through vocabulary and context is a more effective approach rather than memorizing each character's abstract meaning and multiple readings.

💡Inefficient Methods

Inefficient methods in the context of the video refer to traditional classroom approaches to learning kanji, where students are given lists of characters to memorize, including stroke orders and readings, often without any practical application. The speaker criticizes this method for being slow and not conducive to actually reading Japanese text.

💡Stroke Order

Stroke order is the sequence in which the strokes of a kanji character are written. The video suggests that focusing on stroke order is not practical when the goal is to read kanji, as it does not contribute to understanding how the character is used in context within words.

💡Radicals

Radicals are the components of kanji characters, often representing the basic meaning or sound of the character. The video argues that learning radicals is not necessary for reading comprehension and can be a distraction from the more effective strategy of learning kanji through vocabulary.

💡Vocabulary

Vocabulary in this video refers to the collection of words that one learns in a language. The speaker advocates for learning kanji through vocabulary acquisition, suggesting that by encountering kanji in words, learners can gradually understand their readings and usage without dedicated study.

💡Readings

Readings are the ways in which a kanji character can be pronounced. The video points out the challenge of learning all possible readings for each kanji, which can be numerous and context-dependent. It suggests that learning vocabulary is a more natural way to encounter and understand the readings of kanji.

💡Anki

Anki is a flashcard program used for memorization and learning. The video recommends using Anki to learn vocabulary, which can indirectly help in learning kanji, as the program helps in memorizing words that contain kanji characters.

💡Kunyomi and Onyomi

Kunyomi and onyomi are the native Japanese and Chinese-based readings of kanji, respectively. The video explains that understanding the origins of a word can help in guessing its reading, but it also acknowledges that there are many exceptions, making it difficult to be certain without context.

💡JLPT

JLPT stands for the Japanese Language Proficiency Test, a standardized test for non-native speakers of Japanese. The video mentions sorting known kanji by JLPT levels as a way to gauge one's progress in learning kanji through vocabulary.

💡Kanji to Go

Kanji to Go is a game mentioned in the video where players guess the readings of kanji characters. The video uses this game as an example to illustrate that even native speakers can struggle with uncommon readings, reinforcing the idea that learning kanji through vocabulary and context is more practical than individual study.

Highlights

Fear of Japanese kanji is overblown, but it's still challenging.

Many struggle with kanji due to inefficient learning methods.

Classroom curriculums are often too slow for effective kanji learning.

Popular resources like 'Remembering the Kanji' have a fundamental flaw.

Learning kanji individually is time-consuming and not necessary.

Focus on learning words that kanji are used in, rather than individual kanji.

Learning to read kanji is more practical than learning to write them.

Stroke order and radicals are not helpful for reading kanji.

Personal experience suggests dedicated kanji study is not effective.

Learning vocabulary through Anki helped overcome difficulties with kanji.

Reading and memorizing vocabulary complement each other for learning kanji.

As vocabulary increases, kanji become more recognizable and readable.

Guessing kanji readings becomes easier with a larger known vocabulary.

Kunyomi and onomi readings can help make educated guesses on kanji readings.

Exceptions to reading rules are common, especially in names and places.

Learning vocabulary as they come up helps steadily learn to read kanji.

Anki's kanji grid add-on visualizes progress in learning kanji.

Kanji to go game is a fun way to test kanji reading skills.

Dedicated kanji study is not necessary for learning to read Japanese.

Transcripts

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you read the title yes studying kanji is

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a waste of time let me explain now why

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is it that most people are terrified of

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Japanese kanji yeah everyone's scared of

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kanji you've probably heard people be

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like oh Japanese yeah that language is

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crazy they have like 9 million

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characters or something and each of

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those characters can be read in like 80

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different ways I heard it takes like 212

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years to learn and that's just to a

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basic level it seems like the fear

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around specifically learning Kani is

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just a little bit overblown and I'm here

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to tell you that it's still pretty hard

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actually but it's not as hard as you

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think it is the reason why so many

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people struggle with kanji specifically

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is because they've been told to use

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methods which are just straight up

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inefficient like if you've ever been to

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a Japanese class then they probably gave

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you a sheet of paper with a list of

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individual kanji on it and all of their

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stroke orders and readings and then the

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teacher said learn these by our quiz

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next week now this is an extreme example

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and if you've spent any time

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self-studying then you know that

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classroom curriculums are super slow and

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honestly if you're going to try to rely

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solely on a class you would probably

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never actually get to the point of being

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able to read real Japanese at least not

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without looking up every other word even

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with some of the resources that are

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popular nowadays like remembering the

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kanji or Wan Connie which I know a lot

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of people will swear by there's a

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fundamental flaw that makes most people

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who study kanji waste way more time than

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they need to look at this kanji it's

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notorious for having tons of readings to

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the point where Japanese people like to

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use sentences like this to quiz

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foreigners this is one of those things

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that makes people say ja Japanese is

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such a hard language even Chinese which

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is where Japan got all of these

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characters from in the first place at

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least for the most part has consistent

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readings for each individual character

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so once you learn a character you should

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know how to read it pretty

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consistently when learning kanji in

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Japanese so many people will go to learn

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an individual character learn all of the

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radicals used in the character learn the

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abstract meaning of it learn all of the

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readings for the character and then see

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a new word that uses it and still not

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know how to read it so you might be

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thinking okay how are you supposed to

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know which reading of the character to

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use then here's the thing you don't you

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just have to know it which begs the

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question why are people still studying

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individual kanji when they could just

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learn the words that the kanji are used

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in like if you think about it for a

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second if instead of spending all of

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your time memorizing the abstract

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meaning of a single character and all of

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its different readings and radicals and

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then doing that thousands of times for

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each character and instead just learned

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words as you came across them then

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you're going to get to the same end goal

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just a lot quicker and a lot easier and

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without so much pointless

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memorization if you want to actually

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become able to understand written

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Japanese at some point then you're going

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to have to learn tens of thousands of

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words anyway so why not just skip the

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dedicated kanji study and just memorize

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vocab from the start I should also

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mention really quick that this is about

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learning how to read the characters not

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learning how to write them it's not

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really the most practical idea to spend

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all of your time and energy learning how

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to write kanji which you can't even read

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yet in most situations so you're going

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to save yourself a ton of time and

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effort if you just wait until you're

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already fluent in the written language

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before going back and learning how to

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write this is why you shouldn't spend

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your time learning stroke order or

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radicals because if you're just trying

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to read the characters then they're not

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really going to be that much help to you

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maybe knowing a radical might help you

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distinguish one kanji from another one

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but honestly the payoff for learning

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specific radicals isn't really that much

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when you're considering just learning

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how to read the characters so if you're

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only learning how to read then I

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wouldn't bother messing with stroke

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order or radicals yet so one of the

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reasons that I came to this conclusion

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iion is that I actually tried doing

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dedicated kanji study towards the

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beginning of learning Japanese and I was

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using rtk for this it felt like no

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matter how many kanji I tried to Brute

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Force into my head nothing was sticking

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it was really boring it didn't feel like

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it was helping and eventually I just

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gave up and started learning vocabulary

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with Ani I found that just memorizing

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words by themselves and spending enough

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time with the language was enough for me

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to learn how to read Japanese eventually

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and I sort of had this realization that

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studying kanji individually is just a

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huge waste of time now I can already

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hear the keyboard of the people in the

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comments typing but wait a minute you

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can't just say study and kanji is

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useless my Japanese teacher said this or

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I learned kanji like this you can't just

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say that your method is better than

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everyone else's what proof do you have

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so other than the fact that I literally

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learned to read kanji without ever

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studying it take it from this guy he's a

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Japanese teacher who's gotten pretty

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popular on YouTube recently and I

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actually think his videos are super

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helpful specifically for people who are

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in that intermediate stage who know a

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lot of Japanese but maybe haven't picked

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up on a lot of the nuances is Yet now a

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while back he made this video oh

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there's so many Kani thousands of kanji

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and each kanji usually has more than one

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reading how can I remember all the Kani

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dude you don't need to study Kani to

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learn Japanese just learn vocabulary

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even if you memorized all the readings

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of all the kanji there you still

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wouldn't be able to read Japanese a

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reading of the first Kani

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is and second one is and last one

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is yeah so even if you learn all the

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kanji out there it's useless you still

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wouldn't be able to read a word when I

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saw this video for the first time I was

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honestly thinking oh my God somebody

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finally said what I've been thinking

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this whole time so if you don't believe

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me when I say don't study kanji then

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take this guy's word for it okay so I've

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talked a lot about words and using

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vocabulary as a means to learn kanji but

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what does this process actually look

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like so first you need to find some way

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to reliably learn words and I highly

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recommend using Anki for this but if you

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really don't like Anki to the point

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where it just makes you want to give up

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and quit then it's not necessary and a

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lot of people commented on my last

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videos that they don't like Ani so if

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you don't want to use it then you don't

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have to but I think the benefits

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strongly outweigh the negatives so I

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would highly recommend it while you're

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learning words you're also going to want

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to be reading as much as you can because

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reading is really what's going to

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solidify your knowledge these two

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activities really complement each other

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other so you're going to be making a lot

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of progress if you're practicing reading

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and memorizing vocab on the side at the

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same time not literally while you're

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reading you're doing your ay reps but

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you know what I mean when you first

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start looking at kanji they're going to

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look like a bunch of random scribbles to

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you and you're not really going to be

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able to tell the difference between them

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that easily but the more words you learn

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and the more time you spend trying to

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differentiate kanji they're going to

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become more and more clear to you when

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you've picked up a few thousand

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vocabulary words and you're becoming

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more and more familiar with the written

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language you're going to automatically

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notice yourself being able to guess the

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readings of kanji in words that you've

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never even seen before just because you

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know those same characters from other

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words which you've already learned at

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the point I'm at now with Japanese most

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of the new words that I learn are

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composed of kanji which I've seen many

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times already so it's usually not

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difficult to guess how they're read

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despite never having seen them before so

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now you're probably thinking wait a

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minute hold on just a second ago you

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said that you just have to know it or

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else you don't know how to read a kanji

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so how are you guessing how they're read

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what's up with that well what I said is

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still true you can never be 100% sure

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without just looking it up in a

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dictionary but there are some things you

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can do to drastically increase the

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chance that you guess the reading of a

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word all right now it's time for class

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everybody sit down and look at the

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Whiteboard kanji have what's called

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kunyomi and onomi which are essentially

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just specifications for which reading is

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used based on the origin of a word

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kunyomi are for reading native Japanese

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words and onom are for Words which were

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imported from Chinese for example if you

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stuck two Kani together like this

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there's a high likelihood that it's a a

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Chinese lone word and will be read with

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the onomi reading if you see a word with

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Okana which is just when a word itself

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has grammar inflection built in then

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it's almost always going to be read with

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the kunyomi reading as it's almost

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certainly an original Japanese word

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knowing this can help you make educated

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guesses on how a word is going to be

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read but there are many exceptions to

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this rule so you can never be 100% sure

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without confirming it for yourself look

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at this word meaning tone of voice now

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if you're like me and you're learning

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Japanese and you come across this word

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for the first time you might make the

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reasonable assumption that oh this could

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be read

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as because grammatically it's treated

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the same as a Chinese import word so it

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most likely uses the onomi reading right

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yeah it's actually pronounced as kaol

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which uses two kunyomi readings the

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first of which is not even how the word

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in isolation is pronounced this sort of

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thing isn't super rare with normal words

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but it is really common with the names

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of people or places so even Japanese

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people will often not know how to read a

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name that they've never seen before

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because kanji were invented by the

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Chinese then brought into Japan over a

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thousand years ago and forced into the

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Japanese language then underwent tons of

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changes due to historical events

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learning kanji is kind of convoluted to

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say the least but if you take the

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approach of just spending a lot of time

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with the language and learn vocabulary

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words as they come up then you're

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steadily going to learn to read kanji

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without having to study them at all okay

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to show you what I mean let's look into

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my Ani deck I currently have 15,000 244

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words in my deck and there's actually

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this really cool add-on called kanji

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grid which will generate a grid of all

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of the kanji found in your ankey deck

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and by looking at this you can kind of

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gauge how many characters are in the

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words that you know how to read this

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isn't really that helpful on a

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pragmatical level because really the

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only way forward is to learn more words

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but you can sort your known kanji by

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jlpt level kanji kente level grade level

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and so if you're trying to gauge where

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you're at then it can be a little bit

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helpful I think to be honest I think

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it's just cool to see a big grid of all

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of the kanji that are in your deck right

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in front of you and think wow I really

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learned to read all of those just by

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learning words there's alsoo this game

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that got popular on Japanese YouTube

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like a year ago called kanji to go which

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is essentially just a game where you

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guess kanji readings and the farther in

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you go the harder it gets so much to the

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point where Japanese people even

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struggle on the harder levels

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I think the fact that this game even

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exist in the first place is a telling

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sign that you shouldn't be learning

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individual kanji to learn vocabulary

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words honestly I played this game way

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too much sitting in the back of my

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college classes when I should have been

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taking notes but that's not important

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what's really important is that hey this

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game is pretty cool if you're trying to

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learn how to read some unorthodox kanji

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and test yourself then maybe go give it

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a shot it's kind of neat anyways if

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you're trying to learn how to read

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Japanese don't bother studying kanji now

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originally I was going to make this a

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huge comprehensive guide on how to read

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but I realized that the contents of a

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video specifically about kanji and the

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contents of a video about learning how

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to read novels are probably not that

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similar so I decided to split them into

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two videos so if you have a bunch of

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questions about specifically learning

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how to read then I'm making a video

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about it don't worry anyways that's

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about it leave any comments you have in

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the question oh my God leave any

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questions you have in the comments and

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I'll try to answer them okay bye

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