DISTROKID BANNED ME FOR LIFE

Indie Music Academy
7 Feb 202014:40

Summary

TLDRIn this video, Ryan from the Indie Music Academy recounts his experience with DistroKid, a music distribution platform. Despite being a loyal client with a record label account and multiple releases, Ryan's account was suddenly banned without explanation, and his music was delisted. After unsuccessful attempts to resolve the issue, he was forced to move his music to another distributor. Ryan highlights the potential pitfalls of DistroKid's subscription model, which can trap artists into lifetime contracts, and encourages viewers to consider their options carefully.

Takeaways

  • πŸ˜• The artist experienced a ban from DistroKid without prior notice, causing their album not to be distributed.
  • πŸ“§ After two weeks without updates, the artist contacted DistroKid and received a vague response citing 'editorial discretion' as the reason for the ban.
  • 🚫 DistroKid's response listed potential issues like poor quality or copyright infringement, but did not specify the exact reason for the ban.
  • πŸ”„ The artist, having been a loyal client with multiple releases, was surprised by the ban and sought clarification.
  • πŸ’¬ DistroKid did not offer a phone call to discuss the issue, only email communication, which the artist found unsatisfactory.
  • πŸ“‰ The artist was informed that they could no longer distribute music through DistroKid and were advised to find another distributor.
  • πŸ’° DistroKid's 'Leave a Legacy' fee was revealed to be only applicable in the event of the artist's death, not for account cancellation or ban.
  • 🚫 The artist felt trapped by DistroKid's business model, which seemed to prioritize lifetime subscriptions over artist satisfaction.
  • πŸ”„ The artist decided to move their music to another distributor, AWAL, which operates on a revenue-sharing model without yearly fees.
  • 🎧 The artist encourages viewers to consider the implications of subscription models and to make informed decisions about music distribution.

Q & A

  • What was the issue with the artist's album release through DistroKid?

    -The artist's album was not released and was not available in stores two weeks past the release date without any updates or communication from DistroKid.

  • How did DistroKid respond when the artist inquired about the delayed album release?

    -DistroKid responded by stating that the artist's releases have been rejected due to editorial discretion and suggested that the artist should try another distributor.

  • What reasons did DistroKid provide for the rejection of the artist's album?

    -DistroKid listed possible reasons such as too many similar releases, poor quality sound recording, potential copyright infringement, and poor quality artwork.

  • Why was the artist particularly upset with DistroKid's handling of the situation?

    -The artist was upset because DistroKid banned their account without any prior notice or specific reason, and they were not given a chance to rectify any potential issues.

  • What is the 'Leave a Legacy' option mentioned in the script?

    -The 'Leave a Legacy' option is a fee that artists can pay to DistroKid to keep their music distributed in case they are unable to pay the annual fee, including in the event of death.

  • What was the artist's reaction to DistroKid's business model regarding the 'Leave a Legacy' option?

    -The artist found DistroKid's business model to be exploitative and restrictive, as it trapped artists into a lifetime subscription and only allowed music to remain distributed if the artist died.

  • Why did the artist decide to move their music to another distributor?

    -The artist decided to move their music to another distributor because DistroKid would not allow them to continue using their service despite being willing to pay additional fees.

  • What was the outcome of the artist's attempt to cancel their DistroKid account and billing?

    -DistroKid informed the artist that they could not cancel their account and stop the annual fee without risking the removal of their music from stores, unless they chose the 'Leave a Legacy' option or died.

  • What alternative distributor did the artist switch to after leaving DistroKid?

    -The artist switched to a distributor called AWAL after leaving DistroKid.

  • What is the Indie Music Academy and how does it aim to help independent artists?

    -The Indie Music Academy is a resource for independent artists that offers educational content, industry tips, and strategies to help artists grow their fanbase and earn income from their music.

Outlines

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😀 Unjust Ban from DistroKid

The speaker recounts their frustration with DistroKid, a music distribution platform, after being banned without clear reason or prior notice. Despite being a loyal client with a record label account and several releases, DistroKid abruptly stopped the distribution of a new four-track album and banned the user's account. The user reached out to DistroKid for clarification and was given vague reasons such as 'editorial discretion,' which included potential copyright infringement or poor quality, despite the user's professional background in music production and the album's originality. The user's attempts to get a clear answer were met with unhelpful responses, leading to a negative view of DistroKid's customer service and practices.

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πŸ€” The Aftermath of DistroKid's Decision

After DistroKid's decision to ban the user, they were left with no choice but to find an alternative distributor for their music. DistroKid's response to the user's inquiries was unsatisfactory, offering no clear explanation or solution, and suggesting that the user switch distributors for future releases. The user, who had been with DistroKid for over three years and had nine releases, was shocked by the platform's lack of support and the revelation that their music would be removed if they couldn't pay the annual fee, even in the case of being banned. This led the user to consider paying a 'leave a legacy' fee to keep their music on the platform, but DistroKid's policies made it clear that this was only an option in the event of the user's death, highlighting the inflexibility and what the user perceived as an exploitative business model.

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🚫 The Dark Side of Subscription Services

The speaker concludes their story by emphasizing the hidden truths and potential pitfalls of subscription-based music distribution services like DistroKid. They recount their decision to move all their music to a new distributor, AWOL, which did not have yearly fees and instead took a percentage of earnings, aligning the distributor's interests with the artist's success. The speaker shares their positive experience with AWOL and encourages other independent artists to be aware of the terms and conditions of the platforms they use. They also promote the Indie Music Academy's resources, including the Indie Vault, which offers free ebooks and guides to help artists navigate the music industry. The speaker ends on a note of empowerment, urging artists to make informed decisions and to take control of their music careers.

Mindmap

Keywords

πŸ’‘DistroKid

DistroKid is a digital music distribution service that allows artists to upload their music to various online platforms such as Spotify, Apple Music, and others. In the video, the artist discusses their experience with DistroKid, including being banned from the platform without clear reasons, which halted the distribution of their album.

πŸ’‘Album Release

An album release refers to the process of making a collection of musical recordings available to the public. The video's narrative revolves around the artist's frustration with their album not being released as expected through DistroKid, despite following all the necessary procedures.

πŸ’‘Copyright

Copyright in the context of the video pertains to the legal rights granted to creators for their original works, which in this case includes the artist's music. The artist mentions ensuring that their music is original and not infringing on any copyrights, which is a prerequisite for distribution.

πŸ’‘Music Distribution

Music distribution is the process of making music available for sale or streaming through various platforms. The video discusses the artist's journey with DistroKid for music distribution and the challenges faced when their account was banned, affecting their music's availability.

πŸ’‘Indie Music Academy

The Indie Music Academy is mentioned as a resource for independent musicians, offering advice and tools to help them succeed in the music industry. The video's host, Ryan, is associated with this academy and shares his personal experience to educate and inform other artists.

πŸ’‘Music Industry

The music industry encompasses the businesses and organizations involved in the production, distribution, and sale of music. The video provides insights into one aspect of the industry, focusing on the challenges an artist faced with a digital distributor within this broader context.

πŸ’‘Subscription Model

A subscription model, as discussed in the video, is a business approach where customers pay a recurring fee to access a service or product. DistroKid operates on such a model, and the artist's experience highlights the potential pitfalls of being locked into a subscription without clear options for resolution when issues arise.

πŸ’‘Royalties

Royalties in music refer to the payments made to artists and copyright holders for the use of their music. The video touches on the importance of understanding royalty collection, which is crucial for artists to earn income from their work, and is part of the broader education provided by the Indie Music Academy.

πŸ’‘Music Production

Music production involves the recording, mixing, and production of music tracks. The artist in the video has a background in music production, which is relevant to the discussion as it establishes their credibility and experience in creating original music suitable for distribution.

πŸ’‘Digital Music Platforms

Digital music platforms are online services where music can be streamed or downloaded. The video's central issue is the artist's inability to have their music available on these platforms due to being banned from DistroKid, which serves as a distributor to such platforms.

πŸ’‘Legacy Fee

The legacy fee mentioned in the video is a one-time payment DistroKid offers to artists to keep their music distributed after they decide to cancel their subscription. The artist's experience with DistroKid's legacy fee policy is a key point of contention in the narrative, as it was not an option for them despite their willingness to pay.

Highlights

Artist experienced a two-week delay in album release with no updates from District Kid.

After inquiring, the artist was informed that their account was banned by District Kid without prior notice.

The ban was due to 'editorial discretion' with a list of potential reasons including poor quality or copyright issues.

The artist had been a loyal District Kid client for over three years with a record label account.

The artist's music was professionally recorded and they owned all copyrights, yet still faced the ban.

District Kid suggested the artist try another distributor for future releases.

The artist requested a more specific explanation for the ban but received a vague response.

District Kid's customer support did not offer phone support, only email communication.

The artist was willing to pay a 'leave a legacy' fee to keep music on the platform but was rejected.

District Kid's policy suggests that the only way to stop payments is through death, not account cancellation.

The artist had to move all music to another distributor due to District Kid's uncooperative stance.

The artist discovered a more artist-friendly distribution service, AWAL, which does not charge yearly fees.

AWAL's business model is based on revenue sharing, aligning incentives with artist success.

The artist encourages viewers to consider the long-term implications of subscription services for music distribution.

The Indie Music Academy offers resources like the Indy Vault and a music royalty collection guide for independent artists.

The artist concludes by emphasizing the importance of making informed decisions about music distribution platforms.

Transcripts

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and then finally after two weeks I reach

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out to district kid and ask hey my album

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still isn't out yeah what's going on and

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I sent this email I have it right here I

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said hey district kid it's been nearly

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two weeks past the release date of my

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album it's still not in stores and I

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also don't have any updates in my

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account nor have I heard from you that

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it's going to be delayed I'm just

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emailing to see what's going on and just

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a little backstory this is a four track

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album of my original music and it ended

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up never being distributed because

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district kid just banned my account

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without any notice and I understand that

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sometimes with companies stuff happens

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and district kids seemed to be doing all

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that they can but then some things

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actually came out shortly after that

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actually changed my view on distribute

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[Music]

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hey guys my name is Ryan from the indie

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music academy and welcome back to the

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channel where we uncover the mysteries

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of the music industry learn how to grow

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a larger fanbase and earn an income from

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our music and today this video is gonna

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be really different from past videos I

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usually talk about music industry tips

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and strategies but I've been getting a

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lot of comments and dm's and I've been

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talking to people about actually sharing

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my district kid story about how I was

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actually banned from district kid after

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being a user for 3 plus years and having

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the record label account with over nine

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releases so if anyone was to get banned

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from district kid I wouldn't think it'd

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be me because I was a loyal paying

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client on one of their top accounts but

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it did happen and a lot of you wanted to

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hear that story I've been talking about

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it a little bit in the comments kind of

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diving in answering individual questions

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but I want to just lay it all out right

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here from beginning to end just so you

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can know about what happened you can

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know about the things that were

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discussed with district kid and you can

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know the outcome and you can learn how

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to avoid the outcome for yourself so I

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don't know how long this is gonna be I'm

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just gonna tell the story and you guys

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make your own conclusions on whether or

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not you want to can

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you use district kid I didn't have that

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choice they made that choice for me I'm

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now with a wall distribution and I

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actually have a song coming out this

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Friday so if you want to support my

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music I'll leave a Spotify link in the

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description just so you can listen to my

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new track but it's not distributed by

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district kid because of this sequence of

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events that I'm about to share right now

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just like I said in the intro this video

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I wanted to release some original music

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and district it essentially stop that

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from happening just a little backstory

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it was a four track album it was all

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original music there were no samples

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there was no copyright gray area or

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anything that could potentially derail

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this release it was a pretty

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straightforward release and if you guys

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follow this channel if you've been

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following for awhile you'll know that I

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produce music I produce music here in my

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studio I do it at a pretty pro level I

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have went to school for music I have my

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music degree I've worked in multiple

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Studios produce multiple artists written

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for film and television mixed and

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surround sound I have pretty much done

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it all and have a lot of experience when

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it comes to recording and mixing music

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in addition to all that I write music I

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perform weekly I get paid to perform and

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I'm not a beginner musician I've been

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doing this for a long time I know what

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I'm doing in the studio but even let's

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just pretend that I didn't and let's

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pretend that I was a beginner artist

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that's still not really an excuse to not

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notify the artists if their release

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isn't getting released for some kind of

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technical reason right imagine I'm a

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beginner and district kid they market

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towards first-time musicians and they

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market towards musicians with lower

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budgets that's why they have the $20 a

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year subscription it's literally the

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lowest price option for distribution so

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even if I wasn't experienced there

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should still be no problem because the

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district it website is made to guide

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artists along the distribution process

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and to make sure that they upload a wave

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instead of an mp3 or to make sure that

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their album art is the required 3000 by

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3000 pixels and all that kind of stuff

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it even auto corrects your song title if

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you ride it incorrectly and the little

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pop-up comes up to hell

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you do everything correctly and this

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wasn't my first release with district 8

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either I had the record label account I

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had nine releases before this particular

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release ended up getting me banned so

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after noticing that my release still

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wasn't on Spotify and still wasn't on

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Apple music two weeks after the release

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date I emailed distro kid to find out

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what was wrong and this was their reply

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they said hey Ryan we've been notified

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that one or more of your releases has

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been rejected due to editorial

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discretion some possible reasons are too

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many similar releases from the same

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artists poor quality sound recording not

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music potential copyright or trademark

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infringement poor quality artwork or

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similar content already in stores for

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example rain sounds and that sort of

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thing stores are no longer accepting

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releases from you via district kid

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please try another distributor so after

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two weeks of wondering when my albums

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gonna come out not getting any

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notification from district kid I finally

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reached out to them asking what's going

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on and they said oh by the way stores

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are no longer accepting your releases

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via district hit find another

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distributor and they left a laundry list

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of things that could have been but they

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didn't really say exactly what was wrong

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they just banned me and I had to go and

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follow up and ask some more questions so

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this is what I replied I said hey Pete

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I'm sorry but you're gonna have to

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provide a better explanation all my

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music is completely original it's

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professionally recorded mixed and

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masters I pay for the record label

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account because I release a large volume

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of music with a variety of artists this

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would be my ninth release with district

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kids since 2016 can you be more specific

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as to what the problem is I own all the

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copyright to my music will I be able to

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release future albums with district kid

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or are you suggesting that I need to

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move all existing releases to another

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distributor as well please let me know

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if you have any more information then

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destroy Kid replies back sorry that's

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all the info we have stores are no

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longer accepting releases from you do to

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editorial discretion existing releases

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will remain in stores for now but you'll

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need to try another distributor for

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future releases

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then I ask can I schedule call with

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someone they say we don't offer

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telephone support but happy to answer

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any questions via email which is what

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we've been doing and then I say are you

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saying I can no longer ever release

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music with district kid just like that

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unbanned with no warning no notification

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and no reason and there's nothing

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district kid can do to back for me as a

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returning customer after 9 releases

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district 8 is just dropping me and it's

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over and then district kid replies

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that's correct

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stores are no longer accepting new

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releases from you do two editorial

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discretion you're welcome to try another

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distributor ok so it took some time for

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that to sink in for me because district

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had made it clear that they didn't

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really know why it happened and they

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really couldn't do anything to help me

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as their artist as their customer but

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you know me I'm a pretty nice guy and so

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I just figured that there was some kind

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of glitch and so the support guy did the

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best he could

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district it didn't have answers and what

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I would do is just pay the legacy fee to

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keep my music up there and then just

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continue distributing music with some

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other distributors because district kid

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was no longer accepting my releases so

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that was my plan I wanted to pay the

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district kid leave the legacy fee 29 for

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single and $49 for an album which is

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essentially paying disrobed kid twice

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that was my only option if I wanted to

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keep my music on district kid and I was

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prepared to pay it so at that point I

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was fine with district kid but then some

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things actually came out shortly after

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that actually changed my view on

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district kid this is what I wrote to

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them I said hey district kid I want to

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do to leave a legacy option where I can

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pay to keep my tracks distributed but

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how do I cancel my account slash billing

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so that I no longer have to pay the

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yearly membership since I cannot upload

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any more tracks in my account is

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basically frozen right it's a fair

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question for some reason my account was

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banned so of course I can't upload any

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more music but I figured that as long as

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I pay the $29 for a single and the $49

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for an album for the leave a legacy fee

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I should be able to keep my music up

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there it doesn't cost them anything to

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keep my music on Spotify it's already in

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the Spotify database and at those prices

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I might as well just distribute with CD

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Baby because that's how

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much it cost to get a song distributed

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actually it's cheaper I think it's like

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$9.99 a single so I'm paying twice now

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per song hopefully I'm gonna have my

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music distributed forever the way that

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it should be but this is what district

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kid replied which shook my view of them

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and proved to me that their whole

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business model is just about nickel and

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diming artists in doing whatever it

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takes to keep them on this lifetime

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subscription this is what district had

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said the legacy extra exists so that

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your albums won't be removed due to a

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lapsed membership payment if you're

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unable to pay the annual fee in the

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event of death if you intentionally

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canceled your district kid subscription

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you wouldn't be able to upload any

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additional albums and previous releases

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will be removed from stores let me

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translate that for you out of district

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kid speak into normal language the only

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way to stop paying for district kid is

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if you die the leave a legacy option is

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only for you dying any other scenario

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even getting banned even not being able

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to upload any more music even wanting to

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switch distributors the leave a legacy

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option doesn't count it's only in the

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circumstance where you end up dead

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what kind of business model is that

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where you're locked into a lifetime

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contract where you can only get out of

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it and keep your music distributed if

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you die that's ridiculous I was willing

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to pay district hit double I was paying

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for the record label account I was

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paying a hundred and thirty nine ninety

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nine dollars a year and no matter what

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the circumstance district hit has it

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built into their business model where

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you either keep paying for the rest of

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your life or all your music gets taken

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down from district kid what I ended up

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having to do is to move all of my songs

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from district kid to another distributor

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my current distributor now AWOL and it

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was a long process I got through it I

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had to do it in a specific way to make

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sure I didn't lose any stream counts I

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had to do in a specific way to make sure

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the UPC codes carried over all kinds of

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stuff like that a huge hassle and all

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because district kid wanted me to keep

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paying one hundred and thirty nine

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ninety nine for the rest of my life even

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though I couldn't use district kid

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anymore

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and even when I said I was gonna pay the

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leave a legacy fee on every single one

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of my tracks they still wouldn't work

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with me so that's my story and if you

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are a current district at artists I'm

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not telling you to quit district kid in

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fact I'm not even sure if you can but

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with all that being said district it was

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good to me and their platform is good

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and it was all great right up until the

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end when all of this hidden truth came

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out so if you're a district guitarist

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right now and you love the payment

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splitting you love the district hit

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analytics you might have a record label

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account and you love having the ability

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to distribute for multiple artists under

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one account continue to use district kid

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I'm not telling anyone to cancel with

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them and go through what I went through

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but I just want to let you know that if

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you think that at any point during the

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rest of your life you might not want to

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pay that district could fee any more

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then seriously consider not choosing

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district 8 if that is something that you

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personally want in your life

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district kid has a lot of amazing

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features that a lot of other

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distributors don't have and that's why I

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picked them in the first place but it's

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really unfortunate that this great

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service is poisoned by a business model

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that traps artists into a lifetime

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subscription nickel and dimes them for

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features that come free with other

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distributors like Shazam and YouTube

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Content ID and then on top of that the

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only way to have your music up forever

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is if you die at the end of the day I'm

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actually glad that district could ban me

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because it revealed a lot of the dark

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side to the subscription that I was

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subscribed to and so I ended up

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canceling my account I ended up having

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to move all of my music over to a wall

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and I'm glad that I did because a wall

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has no yearly fees they just take a

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small cut only if I make money if I

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don't make anything from my music they

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don't get paid so that's their incentive

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to increase the reach of their platform

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and add new distributors add new

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worldwide territories and the analytics

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on the back end are great and I can

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download spreadsheets and everything

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that I need to get a crystal clear view

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of everything that's going on with my

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music so if you got to this point in the

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video thanks so much for watching I know

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that this was a longer video and maybe a

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little more ranty than usual but I just

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want to end on the latter side by saying

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that at the indie music Academy we want

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independent artists to succeed and

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why we have something called the Indy

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vault which is a digital treasure trove

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of things like music industry contracts

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there are things in there like my

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Spotify playlist game plan and the music

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royalty collection guide it's a free

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ebook actually all of its free so if

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you're interested in joining the indie

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fall to go click the link in the

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description below and we also have a

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giveaway going on right now where you

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can win a free microphone so if that is

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still going on by the time you watch

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this video go ahead and click the link

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for that in the description as well so

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once again thanks so much for watching I

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hope this video was truly helpful to you

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and again I'm not telling you to do any

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particular thing I just want to share my

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experience with district 8 and my

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knowledge about the music industry so

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take some of it apply some of it or take

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none of it it doesn't matter to me we'll

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still be friends if you decide that you

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love district kid that's fine I don't

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have strong feelings for district Adeiny

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more I just wanted to share my story

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because a lot of people were asking you

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to so that's all for this video thanks

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so much for watching and hit the like

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button and subscribe if you appreciate

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content like this and you appreciate the

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content that's on this channel so thanks

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so much

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once again I'm Ryan from the indie music

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academy and I'll see you guys in the

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next video

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