DISTROKID BANNED ME FOR LIFE
Summary
TLDRIn this video, Ryan from the Indie Music Academy recounts his experience with DistroKid, a music distribution platform. Despite being a loyal client with a record label account and multiple releases, Ryan's account was suddenly banned without explanation, and his music was delisted. After unsuccessful attempts to resolve the issue, he was forced to move his music to another distributor. Ryan highlights the potential pitfalls of DistroKid's subscription model, which can trap artists into lifetime contracts, and encourages viewers to consider their options carefully.
Takeaways
- π The artist experienced a ban from DistroKid without prior notice, causing their album not to be distributed.
- π§ After two weeks without updates, the artist contacted DistroKid and received a vague response citing 'editorial discretion' as the reason for the ban.
- π« DistroKid's response listed potential issues like poor quality or copyright infringement, but did not specify the exact reason for the ban.
- π The artist, having been a loyal client with multiple releases, was surprised by the ban and sought clarification.
- π¬ DistroKid did not offer a phone call to discuss the issue, only email communication, which the artist found unsatisfactory.
- π The artist was informed that they could no longer distribute music through DistroKid and were advised to find another distributor.
- π° DistroKid's 'Leave a Legacy' fee was revealed to be only applicable in the event of the artist's death, not for account cancellation or ban.
- π« The artist felt trapped by DistroKid's business model, which seemed to prioritize lifetime subscriptions over artist satisfaction.
- π The artist decided to move their music to another distributor, AWAL, which operates on a revenue-sharing model without yearly fees.
- π§ The artist encourages viewers to consider the implications of subscription models and to make informed decisions about music distribution.
Q & A
What was the issue with the artist's album release through DistroKid?
-The artist's album was not released and was not available in stores two weeks past the release date without any updates or communication from DistroKid.
How did DistroKid respond when the artist inquired about the delayed album release?
-DistroKid responded by stating that the artist's releases have been rejected due to editorial discretion and suggested that the artist should try another distributor.
What reasons did DistroKid provide for the rejection of the artist's album?
-DistroKid listed possible reasons such as too many similar releases, poor quality sound recording, potential copyright infringement, and poor quality artwork.
Why was the artist particularly upset with DistroKid's handling of the situation?
-The artist was upset because DistroKid banned their account without any prior notice or specific reason, and they were not given a chance to rectify any potential issues.
What is the 'Leave a Legacy' option mentioned in the script?
-The 'Leave a Legacy' option is a fee that artists can pay to DistroKid to keep their music distributed in case they are unable to pay the annual fee, including in the event of death.
What was the artist's reaction to DistroKid's business model regarding the 'Leave a Legacy' option?
-The artist found DistroKid's business model to be exploitative and restrictive, as it trapped artists into a lifetime subscription and only allowed music to remain distributed if the artist died.
Why did the artist decide to move their music to another distributor?
-The artist decided to move their music to another distributor because DistroKid would not allow them to continue using their service despite being willing to pay additional fees.
What was the outcome of the artist's attempt to cancel their DistroKid account and billing?
-DistroKid informed the artist that they could not cancel their account and stop the annual fee without risking the removal of their music from stores, unless they chose the 'Leave a Legacy' option or died.
What alternative distributor did the artist switch to after leaving DistroKid?
-The artist switched to a distributor called AWAL after leaving DistroKid.
What is the Indie Music Academy and how does it aim to help independent artists?
-The Indie Music Academy is a resource for independent artists that offers educational content, industry tips, and strategies to help artists grow their fanbase and earn income from their music.
Outlines
π€ Unjust Ban from DistroKid
The speaker recounts their frustration with DistroKid, a music distribution platform, after being banned without clear reason or prior notice. Despite being a loyal client with a record label account and several releases, DistroKid abruptly stopped the distribution of a new four-track album and banned the user's account. The user reached out to DistroKid for clarification and was given vague reasons such as 'editorial discretion,' which included potential copyright infringement or poor quality, despite the user's professional background in music production and the album's originality. The user's attempts to get a clear answer were met with unhelpful responses, leading to a negative view of DistroKid's customer service and practices.
π€ The Aftermath of DistroKid's Decision
After DistroKid's decision to ban the user, they were left with no choice but to find an alternative distributor for their music. DistroKid's response to the user's inquiries was unsatisfactory, offering no clear explanation or solution, and suggesting that the user switch distributors for future releases. The user, who had been with DistroKid for over three years and had nine releases, was shocked by the platform's lack of support and the revelation that their music would be removed if they couldn't pay the annual fee, even in the case of being banned. This led the user to consider paying a 'leave a legacy' fee to keep their music on the platform, but DistroKid's policies made it clear that this was only an option in the event of the user's death, highlighting the inflexibility and what the user perceived as an exploitative business model.
π« The Dark Side of Subscription Services
The speaker concludes their story by emphasizing the hidden truths and potential pitfalls of subscription-based music distribution services like DistroKid. They recount their decision to move all their music to a new distributor, AWOL, which did not have yearly fees and instead took a percentage of earnings, aligning the distributor's interests with the artist's success. The speaker shares their positive experience with AWOL and encourages other independent artists to be aware of the terms and conditions of the platforms they use. They also promote the Indie Music Academy's resources, including the Indie Vault, which offers free ebooks and guides to help artists navigate the music industry. The speaker ends on a note of empowerment, urging artists to make informed decisions and to take control of their music careers.
Mindmap
Keywords
π‘DistroKid
π‘Album Release
π‘Copyright
π‘Music Distribution
π‘Indie Music Academy
π‘Music Industry
π‘Subscription Model
π‘Royalties
π‘Music Production
π‘Digital Music Platforms
π‘Legacy Fee
Highlights
Artist experienced a two-week delay in album release with no updates from District Kid.
After inquiring, the artist was informed that their account was banned by District Kid without prior notice.
The ban was due to 'editorial discretion' with a list of potential reasons including poor quality or copyright issues.
The artist had been a loyal District Kid client for over three years with a record label account.
The artist's music was professionally recorded and they owned all copyrights, yet still faced the ban.
District Kid suggested the artist try another distributor for future releases.
The artist requested a more specific explanation for the ban but received a vague response.
District Kid's customer support did not offer phone support, only email communication.
The artist was willing to pay a 'leave a legacy' fee to keep music on the platform but was rejected.
District Kid's policy suggests that the only way to stop payments is through death, not account cancellation.
The artist had to move all music to another distributor due to District Kid's uncooperative stance.
The artist discovered a more artist-friendly distribution service, AWAL, which does not charge yearly fees.
AWAL's business model is based on revenue sharing, aligning incentives with artist success.
The artist encourages viewers to consider the long-term implications of subscription services for music distribution.
The Indie Music Academy offers resources like the Indy Vault and a music royalty collection guide for independent artists.
The artist concludes by emphasizing the importance of making informed decisions about music distribution platforms.
Transcripts
and then finally after two weeks I reach
out to district kid and ask hey my album
still isn't out yeah what's going on and
I sent this email I have it right here I
said hey district kid it's been nearly
two weeks past the release date of my
album it's still not in stores and I
also don't have any updates in my
account nor have I heard from you that
it's going to be delayed I'm just
emailing to see what's going on and just
a little backstory this is a four track
album of my original music and it ended
up never being distributed because
district kid just banned my account
without any notice and I understand that
sometimes with companies stuff happens
and district kids seemed to be doing all
that they can but then some things
actually came out shortly after that
actually changed my view on distribute
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hey guys my name is Ryan from the indie
music academy and welcome back to the
channel where we uncover the mysteries
of the music industry learn how to grow
a larger fanbase and earn an income from
our music and today this video is gonna
be really different from past videos I
usually talk about music industry tips
and strategies but I've been getting a
lot of comments and dm's and I've been
talking to people about actually sharing
my district kid story about how I was
actually banned from district kid after
being a user for 3 plus years and having
the record label account with over nine
releases so if anyone was to get banned
from district kid I wouldn't think it'd
be me because I was a loyal paying
client on one of their top accounts but
it did happen and a lot of you wanted to
hear that story I've been talking about
it a little bit in the comments kind of
diving in answering individual questions
but I want to just lay it all out right
here from beginning to end just so you
can know about what happened you can
know about the things that were
discussed with district kid and you can
know the outcome and you can learn how
to avoid the outcome for yourself so I
don't know how long this is gonna be I'm
just gonna tell the story and you guys
make your own conclusions on whether or
not you want to can
you use district kid I didn't have that
choice they made that choice for me I'm
now with a wall distribution and I
actually have a song coming out this
Friday so if you want to support my
music I'll leave a Spotify link in the
description just so you can listen to my
new track but it's not distributed by
district kid because of this sequence of
events that I'm about to share right now
just like I said in the intro this video
I wanted to release some original music
and district it essentially stop that
from happening just a little backstory
it was a four track album it was all
original music there were no samples
there was no copyright gray area or
anything that could potentially derail
this release it was a pretty
straightforward release and if you guys
follow this channel if you've been
following for awhile you'll know that I
produce music I produce music here in my
studio I do it at a pretty pro level I
have went to school for music I have my
music degree I've worked in multiple
Studios produce multiple artists written
for film and television mixed and
surround sound I have pretty much done
it all and have a lot of experience when
it comes to recording and mixing music
in addition to all that I write music I
perform weekly I get paid to perform and
I'm not a beginner musician I've been
doing this for a long time I know what
I'm doing in the studio but even let's
just pretend that I didn't and let's
pretend that I was a beginner artist
that's still not really an excuse to not
notify the artists if their release
isn't getting released for some kind of
technical reason right imagine I'm a
beginner and district kid they market
towards first-time musicians and they
market towards musicians with lower
budgets that's why they have the $20 a
year subscription it's literally the
lowest price option for distribution so
even if I wasn't experienced there
should still be no problem because the
district it website is made to guide
artists along the distribution process
and to make sure that they upload a wave
instead of an mp3 or to make sure that
their album art is the required 3000 by
3000 pixels and all that kind of stuff
it even auto corrects your song title if
you ride it incorrectly and the little
pop-up comes up to hell
you do everything correctly and this
wasn't my first release with district 8
either I had the record label account I
had nine releases before this particular
release ended up getting me banned so
after noticing that my release still
wasn't on Spotify and still wasn't on
Apple music two weeks after the release
date I emailed distro kid to find out
what was wrong and this was their reply
they said hey Ryan we've been notified
that one or more of your releases has
been rejected due to editorial
discretion some possible reasons are too
many similar releases from the same
artists poor quality sound recording not
music potential copyright or trademark
infringement poor quality artwork or
similar content already in stores for
example rain sounds and that sort of
thing stores are no longer accepting
releases from you via district kid
please try another distributor so after
two weeks of wondering when my albums
gonna come out not getting any
notification from district kid I finally
reached out to them asking what's going
on and they said oh by the way stores
are no longer accepting your releases
via district hit find another
distributor and they left a laundry list
of things that could have been but they
didn't really say exactly what was wrong
they just banned me and I had to go and
follow up and ask some more questions so
this is what I replied I said hey Pete
I'm sorry but you're gonna have to
provide a better explanation all my
music is completely original it's
professionally recorded mixed and
masters I pay for the record label
account because I release a large volume
of music with a variety of artists this
would be my ninth release with district
kids since 2016 can you be more specific
as to what the problem is I own all the
copyright to my music will I be able to
release future albums with district kid
or are you suggesting that I need to
move all existing releases to another
distributor as well please let me know
if you have any more information then
destroy Kid replies back sorry that's
all the info we have stores are no
longer accepting releases from you do to
editorial discretion existing releases
will remain in stores for now but you'll
need to try another distributor for
future releases
then I ask can I schedule call with
someone they say we don't offer
telephone support but happy to answer
any questions via email which is what
we've been doing and then I say are you
saying I can no longer ever release
music with district kid just like that
unbanned with no warning no notification
and no reason and there's nothing
district kid can do to back for me as a
returning customer after 9 releases
district 8 is just dropping me and it's
over and then district kid replies
that's correct
stores are no longer accepting new
releases from you do two editorial
discretion you're welcome to try another
distributor ok so it took some time for
that to sink in for me because district
had made it clear that they didn't
really know why it happened and they
really couldn't do anything to help me
as their artist as their customer but
you know me I'm a pretty nice guy and so
I just figured that there was some kind
of glitch and so the support guy did the
best he could
district it didn't have answers and what
I would do is just pay the legacy fee to
keep my music up there and then just
continue distributing music with some
other distributors because district kid
was no longer accepting my releases so
that was my plan I wanted to pay the
district kid leave the legacy fee 29 for
single and $49 for an album which is
essentially paying disrobed kid twice
that was my only option if I wanted to
keep my music on district kid and I was
prepared to pay it so at that point I
was fine with district kid but then some
things actually came out shortly after
that actually changed my view on
district kid this is what I wrote to
them I said hey district kid I want to
do to leave a legacy option where I can
pay to keep my tracks distributed but
how do I cancel my account slash billing
so that I no longer have to pay the
yearly membership since I cannot upload
any more tracks in my account is
basically frozen right it's a fair
question for some reason my account was
banned so of course I can't upload any
more music but I figured that as long as
I pay the $29 for a single and the $49
for an album for the leave a legacy fee
I should be able to keep my music up
there it doesn't cost them anything to
keep my music on Spotify it's already in
the Spotify database and at those prices
I might as well just distribute with CD
Baby because that's how
much it cost to get a song distributed
actually it's cheaper I think it's like
$9.99 a single so I'm paying twice now
per song hopefully I'm gonna have my
music distributed forever the way that
it should be but this is what district
kid replied which shook my view of them
and proved to me that their whole
business model is just about nickel and
diming artists in doing whatever it
takes to keep them on this lifetime
subscription this is what district had
said the legacy extra exists so that
your albums won't be removed due to a
lapsed membership payment if you're
unable to pay the annual fee in the
event of death if you intentionally
canceled your district kid subscription
you wouldn't be able to upload any
additional albums and previous releases
will be removed from stores let me
translate that for you out of district
kid speak into normal language the only
way to stop paying for district kid is
if you die the leave a legacy option is
only for you dying any other scenario
even getting banned even not being able
to upload any more music even wanting to
switch distributors the leave a legacy
option doesn't count it's only in the
circumstance where you end up dead
what kind of business model is that
where you're locked into a lifetime
contract where you can only get out of
it and keep your music distributed if
you die that's ridiculous I was willing
to pay district hit double I was paying
for the record label account I was
paying a hundred and thirty nine ninety
nine dollars a year and no matter what
the circumstance district hit has it
built into their business model where
you either keep paying for the rest of
your life or all your music gets taken
down from district kid what I ended up
having to do is to move all of my songs
from district kid to another distributor
my current distributor now AWOL and it
was a long process I got through it I
had to do it in a specific way to make
sure I didn't lose any stream counts I
had to do in a specific way to make sure
the UPC codes carried over all kinds of
stuff like that a huge hassle and all
because district kid wanted me to keep
paying one hundred and thirty nine
ninety nine for the rest of my life even
though I couldn't use district kid
anymore
and even when I said I was gonna pay the
leave a legacy fee on every single one
of my tracks they still wouldn't work
with me so that's my story and if you
are a current district at artists I'm
not telling you to quit district kid in
fact I'm not even sure if you can but
with all that being said district it was
good to me and their platform is good
and it was all great right up until the
end when all of this hidden truth came
out so if you're a district guitarist
right now and you love the payment
splitting you love the district hit
analytics you might have a record label
account and you love having the ability
to distribute for multiple artists under
one account continue to use district kid
I'm not telling anyone to cancel with
them and go through what I went through
but I just want to let you know that if
you think that at any point during the
rest of your life you might not want to
pay that district could fee any more
then seriously consider not choosing
district 8 if that is something that you
personally want in your life
district kid has a lot of amazing
features that a lot of other
distributors don't have and that's why I
picked them in the first place but it's
really unfortunate that this great
service is poisoned by a business model
that traps artists into a lifetime
subscription nickel and dimes them for
features that come free with other
distributors like Shazam and YouTube
Content ID and then on top of that the
only way to have your music up forever
is if you die at the end of the day I'm
actually glad that district could ban me
because it revealed a lot of the dark
side to the subscription that I was
subscribed to and so I ended up
canceling my account I ended up having
to move all of my music over to a wall
and I'm glad that I did because a wall
has no yearly fees they just take a
small cut only if I make money if I
don't make anything from my music they
don't get paid so that's their incentive
to increase the reach of their platform
and add new distributors add new
worldwide territories and the analytics
on the back end are great and I can
download spreadsheets and everything
that I need to get a crystal clear view
of everything that's going on with my
music so if you got to this point in the
video thanks so much for watching I know
that this was a longer video and maybe a
little more ranty than usual but I just
want to end on the latter side by saying
that at the indie music Academy we want
independent artists to succeed and
why we have something called the Indy
vault which is a digital treasure trove
of things like music industry contracts
there are things in there like my
Spotify playlist game plan and the music
royalty collection guide it's a free
ebook actually all of its free so if
you're interested in joining the indie
fall to go click the link in the
description below and we also have a
giveaway going on right now where you
can win a free microphone so if that is
still going on by the time you watch
this video go ahead and click the link
for that in the description as well so
once again thanks so much for watching I
hope this video was truly helpful to you
and again I'm not telling you to do any
particular thing I just want to share my
experience with district 8 and my
knowledge about the music industry so
take some of it apply some of it or take
none of it it doesn't matter to me we'll
still be friends if you decide that you
love district kid that's fine I don't
have strong feelings for district Adeiny
more I just wanted to share my story
because a lot of people were asking you
to so that's all for this video thanks
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so much
once again I'm Ryan from the indie music
academy and I'll see you guys in the
next video
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