HOW TO: fix a quad/atv/pitbike that has no spark
Summary
TLDRIn this video, the creator shares their journey of learning to rewire a Chinese quad, initially intimidating but simplified after watching tutorials and studying diagrams. They detail the process of setting up a basic spark circuit for motorcycles, explaining the function of each component and the color-coded wiring. The video guides viewers through assembling the circuit, testing for spark, and troubleshooting common issues without a kill switch or charging system. The creator also hints at future projects, including building a custom 'cross cart' and expanding their business, Columbia Customs.
Takeaways
- ๐ The creator is starting a business called 'Columbia Customs' and will share more details later.
- ๐ The video focuses on rewiring a Chinese quad, which the creator initially found intimidating but has since mastered.
- ๐ ๏ธ To simplify the wiring process, the creator suggests cutting components from the original wiring harness and using color-coded wires for clarity.
- ๐ง Basic tools needed for the rewiring process include wire cutting pliers, heat shrink wrap, a soldering iron, and solder.
- โ๏ธ The video explains the essential components for a basic spark circuit: CDI, connectors, and a spark coil.
- ๐ฅ A safety warning is given not to ride the quad without a kill switch, as it could be dangerous.
- ๐ ๏ธ The video demonstrates how to connect the engine wires to the CDI and the spark coil, emphasizing the importance of correct pin connections.
- ๐ Troubleshooting tips are provided for testing the spark plug, coil, and CDI using a digital multimeter.
- ๐ The creator mentions that the demonstrated setup is not final and lacks a kill switch and charging system.
- ๐ The video concludes with plans for future videos on more advanced wiring topics, including kill switches and charging systems.
- ๐๏ธ The creator also discusses an upcoming project involving a cross cart made from a 1984 250r two-stroke motor and an ATC three-wheeler.
Q & A
What is the name of the business the speaker is starting?
-The name of the business the speaker is starting is 'Columbia Customs'.
What is the main focus of the video?
-The main focus of the video is rewiring a small Chinese quad, specifically by simplifying the wiring process and explaining the basic spark circuit.
Why did the speaker initially find wiring intimidating?
-The speaker initially found wiring intimidating because it was complex and required understanding of the connections, which they initially didn't want to deal with, opting to pay someone else to do it.
What are the essential components needed for the basic spark circuit?
-The essential components needed for the basic spark circuit are the CDI, connectors, spark coil, and the wires from the wiring harness, which can be recycled and color-coded.
What tools are necessary to put together the basic spark circuit?
-The necessary tools to put together the basic spark circuit include wire cutting pliers, heat shrink wrap, a soldering iron, and solder.
What is the purpose of the CDI in the wiring process?
-The CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition) is in control of the spark, managing the spark timing and providing the spark to the spark plug.
How does the speaker test for spark when there is no kickstart motor?
-The speaker tests for spark by attaching the spark plug to the coil, ensuring the plug touches a metal part of the engine head, and then turning the motor over to look for a spark at the plug gap.
What is the first thing the speaker suggests checking if there is no spark?
-If there is no spark, the speaker suggests first checking the spark plug, then working back to the CDI and eventually the engine.
What additional components does the speaker mention will be covered in future videos?
-The speaker mentions that future videos will cover building a kill switch, hooking up a possible key start, push button start, and setting up a charging system.
What is the speaker's plan for the 1984 250r two-stroke motor?
-The speaker plans to use the 1984 250r two-stroke motor in a cross cart project, combining it with a frame from a three-wheeled ATC, adding a roll cage, and modifying the exhaust.
How can viewers stay updated on the speaker's projects and business?
-Viewers can stay updated on the speaker's projects and business by following the official Instagram account mentioned in the video.
Outlines
๐ Wiring a Chinese Quad: Basics and Tips
The speaker introduces their new venture, Columbia Customs, and shifts focus to rewiring a Chinese quad. Initially intimidated by wiring, they educate themselves through YouTube videos and diagrams. They aim to simplify the process for viewers, explaining that understanding the function of each component is key. The video covers the essentials of rewiring for both kickstart and electric start engines, emphasizing the simplicity of wiring once the components and their connections are known. The speaker demonstrates how to remove the plastics and expose the wiring harness for easier work, outlining the necessary components for a basic spark circuit: CDI, connectors, and a spark coil. They also discuss the tools required, such as wire cutting pliers, heat shrink wrap, a soldering iron, and solder. A warning is given about the dangers of not having a kill switch, advising viewers not to ride the vehicle in its current state.
๐ ๏ธ Building the Spark Circuit and Testing
The speaker proceeds to construct the basic spark circuit, detailing the connections between the engine, CDI, and spark plug coil. They emphasize the importance of color-coding wires for simplicity and safety. A kill switch is mentioned as an optional component. The speaker demonstrates how to test for spark by removing the spark plug and attaching it to the coil, then kicking the engine over to observe the spark. They also guide viewers on how to use a digital multimeter to test the spark plug, coils, and CDI for proper function. Troubleshooting tips are provided, such as checking connections and ensuring the engine's ground is properly connected. The speaker reiterates that the setup shown is not final and lacks certain features like a kill switch and charging system, which are crucial for electric start motors.
๐ Future Plans and Closing Thoughts
The speaker concludes by reiterating that the wiring setup demonstrated is a basic starting point and not the final configuration. They mention the need for a kill switch, key start, push-button start, and a charging system in a complete setup. The speaker shares their plans to create a cross cart using a 1984 250R two-stroke motor from a three-wheeled Honda ATC, outlining their approach to combining two frames and budget constraints. They express gratitude for the opportunity to work on such projects and encourage viewers to follow their social media for updates and additional content. The speaker also invites viewers to ask questions or provide insights, particularly regarding the CDI's function, which they admit to not fully understanding. They commit to sharing more tips and tricks as they learn and work on their business.
Mindmap
Keywords
๐กWiring Harness
๐กCDI
๐กSpark Coil
๐กSolenoid
๐กKickstart
๐กElectric Start
๐กHeat Shrink Wrap
๐กSoldering Iron
๐กMultimeter
๐กGround
๐กKill Switch
Highlights
The speaker is starting a business called Columbia Customs and will provide more information later.
The focus is on rewiring a Chinese quad, which the speaker initially found intimidating.
After watching YouTube videos and studying wiring diagrams, the speaker gained understanding and aims to simplify the process for viewers.
The typical wiring harness is messy, especially when components are missing or unclear which plugs go where.
Wiring is simpler than it seems; understanding the components' functions is key, regardless of whether the engine is kickstart, electric start, or both.
The speaker will demonstrate how to wire a basic spark circuit, which is essential for engine operation.
To start, all plastics are removed for better visibility and access to the wiring harness.
The speaker lists the components needed for the basic spark circuit: CDI, connectors, spark coil, and wires from the existing harness.
Tools required for the wiring process include wire cutting pliers, heat shrink wrap, a soldering iron, and solder.
The basic circuit does not include a kill switch and is only for testing if the engine will run; it's not safe to ride without one.
The speaker explains the function of each wire connected to the CDI and how to identify them by color and purpose.
A diagram is provided to illustrate the basic spark circuit, showing connections from the engine to the CDI and coil.
The speaker advises on the importance of proper grounding and avoiding sparks near gasoline vapors for safety.
Testing for spark involves removing the spark plug, connecting it to the coil, and kicking the engine over to check for a spark.
If no spark is detected, the speaker suggests testing each component starting with the spark plug and working back to the CDI and engine.
A digital multimeter is used to test for spark, coil function, and CDI resistance, with specific settings for each test.
The speaker emphasizes that the demonstrated setup is not final due to the lack of a kill switch and charging system.
Future videos will cover building a kill switch, key start, push button start, and setting up a charging system.
The speaker plans to combine a 1984 250R two-stroke motor with a three-wheeled ATC frame, creating a unique vehicle.
The speaker invites viewers to follow their social media for more frequent updates and shorter videos on various projects.
The speaker acknowledges the learning process and invites questions and comments for further discussion on the topic.
Transcripts
hmm
oh sorry i was too busy not making
videos to see you there
long story short i'll start a business
finally
i'm calling it columbia customs i'll
give you all some more information on
that later
but for right now we're going to focus
on rewiring this little chinese quad
now originally wiring was really
intimidating
and i honestly paid someone to do it i
just didn't want to have to deal with it
but after watching a lot of youtube
videos and looking at a few wiring
diagrams i finally figured it out and
i'm going to try and give you guys the
most clear and concise version of it
possible
the typical wiring harness is an
absolute mess
mostly just because they're made to plug
in but when you're missing components
and you don't know what plugs into which
it's a lot harder to figure out in
reality wiring is a lot more simple than
that you just need to know what does
what
depending if you have kickstart electric
start or both
there will be one to two circuits in
this entire thing this will work no
matter if your engine's kickstart
or electric start if it's electric start
only or you just want to use electric
start
it's a matter of adding this little
solenoid first thing i'm going to do
is take all the plastics off and get all
the wiring harness out it's a lot easier
to work on one of these things if you
can actually see all of it at once
[Music]
pretty much everything's off i just need
to take off the switches on the
handlebars
[Music]
[Music]
so
now i'm going to show you guys the
components you need for the basic spark
circuit
the easiest way to set this all up is to
cut these components
off this massive jangled mess of a
wiring harness and lay them out what
you're going to need are
the cdi and the connectors
and your spark coil
along with this you can recycle the
wires from your wiring harness
and keep everything color coded it's a
lot more simple that way
in terms of tools you're going to need
to put this all together
a pair of wire cutting pliers some heat
shrink wrap
soldering iron and solder
just to be clear this is the most simple
circuit it doesn't have a kill switch
this is just to see if your engine is
going to run don't ride it this way or
you might kill someone
and i don't want to get sued
while everything is disconnected i'm
just going to really quick explain what
everything does
so the cdi is in control of your spark
wires coming out of our engine this is
the wire that provides the spark red and
black the spark timing
is blue and white the white and yellow
are 12 volt
so this is your ac current that goes to
the rectifier and then the green one is
your ground
the spark coil is what actually provides
the spark to the spark plug
i'm going to explain the wiring for the
cdi in terms of location of the pin
because not all of these will have the
same colors and the setup
just so that it's more clear so from the
top left of your cdi
connects up with the blue and white
coming from your engine
the bottom right connects up to the red
and black coming from your engine
and then the bottom left the green
connects to the green
coming from your engine and then out of
that
you're going to connect up this green
cable to these two green cables
and then the top left the black and
yellow is going to get connected up to
the black and yellow
on the coil all right so this is a
diagram of the very basic spark circuit
i drew up
coming out of your engine you have your
black and red
which goes to your cdi you have your
blue and white
which goes to your cdi and you have your
ground which goes to your cdi
then you have your two 12 volt leads
we're not worrying about this right now
because this is for lights and a
charging system
and if you have a kickstart motor you're
not gonna have to worry about that
then coming out of the cdi
you have your black and yellow which
goes to the spark plug coil
and also a connection of the ground
which goes to the ground on the spark
plug coil
which then goes to your spark plug so a
quick
key to this if you can actually read my
handwriting
i'm gonna connect it all up
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all right so i don't have anything
soldered yet but here's your basic
circuit
red and black from your engine goes to
the bottom right
of the cdi your blue and white from the
engine
goes to the top left of the cdi your
ground and green from the engine
go to the bottom left of the cdi
um and then that ground also connects up
with the ground or green coming off of
your coil and then besides that you have
this little kill switch
which is optional there's other ways to
set up a kill switch so you don't have
to have that connected necessarily
these especially if you're trying to
start up the engine have them
disconnected
because they will they're the amount of
power that comes out of them they will
create an arc
and if you have gas lying around and gas
vapors that's going to be you know
[Music]
explosive
if you have a kickstart motor you should
be ready to test spark
to do this take out your spark plug
pretty sure this one's junk
but we're just going to use it for
demonstration purposes
plug it into your coil make sure your
spark plug
is touching a bolt or uh exposed metal
on the head for a decent crown
and then kick it over and look for a
spark
in that gap right there however
i don't have a kickstart motor so i'm
gonna have to set up the electrical
attach the other ground on the coil to
the frame make sure everything else is
connected
no leads are touching
so let's say you set this all up and
you're still not getting any spark
what we're going to do is really quick
go through and test all the individual
components
starting from the spark plug and working
our way back to the cdi and eventually
the engine
the only thing you're going to need to
test all this is a digital multimeter
first to test for spark
set it to 20 volts dc unplug your spark
plug
take the negative black lead
and make sure it touches the little
piece of metal that's in the back of
there
and then take your other one and make it
touch ground
once you're holding everything in place
turn the motor over and you should see
a massive jump in power
just like so you do that and it's still
not working it's not showing any power
on the multimeter
next step is we're going to be testing
the coils
now to do this go to the connection we
just made and do the same thing put the
black
on the oak connection on the black wire
and put the red on the open connection
on the green wire
turn it over if there's still no spark
it could be the cdi
to test this blue wire we're actually
going to switch
the multimeter to resistance
which is ohms this weird little symbol
right here
switch it to some absurdly high number
attach one lead
to the blue wire that's the other
to the ground on the engine this is a
lot easier to do with more than one
person but if you can get it all
once it's all in position turn the
engine over
and you should see a res change and
resistance
so the reason you test this one with
ohms is because this is the spark plug
signal
so as a little magnet goes around in
here each time it passes it
it actually disconnects it which then
lets the cdi know okay it's time to
spark
so let's say that's working but you're
still not getting any spark
move on to your black and red for black
and red
we're going to go back to current
same thing make sure the lead has a
solid connection
and make sure it's grounded before you
turn it over
that you have it held here hands-free
because if you're touching this
and some part of the frame it'll give
you a good shock
all right go through turn the motor over
and you should see a difference in
current
if both of those are working and you're
still not getting spark
go over all your connections once again
and then the problem is most likely the
cdi
the other possibility could be that this
ground
which comes out of the motor is not
properly grounded in there or not
properly actually touching the base of
the
block or the engine block all right let
me reiterate
that is not the final uh setup you
should use in terms of wiring because
there's no kill switch
there's also no charging system so if
you're running a electric start motor
your battery will eventually die unless
you get something like a six dollar
battery float charger from harbor
freight or whatever um
i'll do more videos updating on the rest
of it so
building a kill switch hooking up
possible key start
and push button start and then the
setting up a charging system which is
all pretty simple
it's just i didn't have time to put it
through this video i want to get it out
quick so i can
continue getting back to work and
pushing out these projects so i can make
some money to put into
wait for it the cross cart
i was blessed
this 1984 250r two-stroke motor
pulled right out of the sketchiest
vehicle honda ever made
the three wheeled death machine atc
i'm going to be frankensteining these
two frames together
basically chopping off the top adding
some kind of roll cage etc
having the exhaust come out the back
unfortunately not
independent rear suspension just because
control arms are very expensive and i
don't have all the materials or money
for that right now and i'm trying to do
this on a budget
but that's for another video let me know
if this helped you at all
um it took me a while to actually learn
what everything did
and i still don't fully understand
exactly what the cdi does i know the
role it plays but i don't know how it
does it and it's nice to know
so if anyone does know please leave it
down in the comments
or any questions you have leave them
down in the comments and i'll do my best
to answer them but for now
be sure to follow the official regarding
kid instagram account for all the
updates
i post a lot more on there than i do on
here
i'll also try and do little videos and
shorts on stuff like this
just wiring up speakers to some
handlebars
and putting it on my good friend's mini
bike with the
initial start and expansion of my
business i'm able to do a lot more and
have a lot more access to different
stuff
so i'll be learning a lot i'll be sure
to share any tips and tricks
with you guys as long as i don't forget
to make videos
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