HOW TO: fix a quad/atv/pitbike that has no spark

Karting Kid
3 Dec 202013:13

Summary

TLDRIn this video, the creator shares their journey of learning to rewire a Chinese quad, initially intimidating but simplified after watching tutorials and studying diagrams. They detail the process of setting up a basic spark circuit for motorcycles, explaining the function of each component and the color-coded wiring. The video guides viewers through assembling the circuit, testing for spark, and troubleshooting common issues without a kill switch or charging system. The creator also hints at future projects, including building a custom 'cross cart' and expanding their business, Columbia Customs.

Takeaways

  • ๐Ÿš€ The creator is starting a business called 'Columbia Customs' and will share more details later.
  • ๐Ÿ”Œ The video focuses on rewiring a Chinese quad, which the creator initially found intimidating but has since mastered.
  • ๐Ÿ› ๏ธ To simplify the wiring process, the creator suggests cutting components from the original wiring harness and using color-coded wires for clarity.
  • ๐Ÿ”ง Basic tools needed for the rewiring process include wire cutting pliers, heat shrink wrap, a soldering iron, and solder.
  • โš™๏ธ The video explains the essential components for a basic spark circuit: CDI, connectors, and a spark coil.
  • ๐Ÿ”ฅ A safety warning is given not to ride the quad without a kill switch, as it could be dangerous.
  • ๐Ÿ› ๏ธ The video demonstrates how to connect the engine wires to the CDI and the spark coil, emphasizing the importance of correct pin connections.
  • ๐Ÿ” Troubleshooting tips are provided for testing the spark plug, coil, and CDI using a digital multimeter.
  • ๐Ÿ The creator mentions that the demonstrated setup is not final and lacks a kill switch and charging system.
  • ๐Ÿ”„ The video concludes with plans for future videos on more advanced wiring topics, including kill switches and charging systems.
  • ๐Ÿ๏ธ The creator also discusses an upcoming project involving a cross cart made from a 1984 250r two-stroke motor and an ATC three-wheeler.

Q & A

  • What is the name of the business the speaker is starting?

    -The name of the business the speaker is starting is 'Columbia Customs'.

  • What is the main focus of the video?

    -The main focus of the video is rewiring a small Chinese quad, specifically by simplifying the wiring process and explaining the basic spark circuit.

  • Why did the speaker initially find wiring intimidating?

    -The speaker initially found wiring intimidating because it was complex and required understanding of the connections, which they initially didn't want to deal with, opting to pay someone else to do it.

  • What are the essential components needed for the basic spark circuit?

    -The essential components needed for the basic spark circuit are the CDI, connectors, spark coil, and the wires from the wiring harness, which can be recycled and color-coded.

  • What tools are necessary to put together the basic spark circuit?

    -The necessary tools to put together the basic spark circuit include wire cutting pliers, heat shrink wrap, a soldering iron, and solder.

  • What is the purpose of the CDI in the wiring process?

    -The CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition) is in control of the spark, managing the spark timing and providing the spark to the spark plug.

  • How does the speaker test for spark when there is no kickstart motor?

    -The speaker tests for spark by attaching the spark plug to the coil, ensuring the plug touches a metal part of the engine head, and then turning the motor over to look for a spark at the plug gap.

  • What is the first thing the speaker suggests checking if there is no spark?

    -If there is no spark, the speaker suggests first checking the spark plug, then working back to the CDI and eventually the engine.

  • What additional components does the speaker mention will be covered in future videos?

    -The speaker mentions that future videos will cover building a kill switch, hooking up a possible key start, push button start, and setting up a charging system.

  • What is the speaker's plan for the 1984 250r two-stroke motor?

    -The speaker plans to use the 1984 250r two-stroke motor in a cross cart project, combining it with a frame from a three-wheeled ATC, adding a roll cage, and modifying the exhaust.

  • How can viewers stay updated on the speaker's projects and business?

    -Viewers can stay updated on the speaker's projects and business by following the official Instagram account mentioned in the video.

Outlines

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๐Ÿ”Œ Wiring a Chinese Quad: Basics and Tips

The speaker introduces their new venture, Columbia Customs, and shifts focus to rewiring a Chinese quad. Initially intimidated by wiring, they educate themselves through YouTube videos and diagrams. They aim to simplify the process for viewers, explaining that understanding the function of each component is key. The video covers the essentials of rewiring for both kickstart and electric start engines, emphasizing the simplicity of wiring once the components and their connections are known. The speaker demonstrates how to remove the plastics and expose the wiring harness for easier work, outlining the necessary components for a basic spark circuit: CDI, connectors, and a spark coil. They also discuss the tools required, such as wire cutting pliers, heat shrink wrap, a soldering iron, and solder. A warning is given about the dangers of not having a kill switch, advising viewers not to ride the vehicle in its current state.

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๐Ÿ› ๏ธ Building the Spark Circuit and Testing

The speaker proceeds to construct the basic spark circuit, detailing the connections between the engine, CDI, and spark plug coil. They emphasize the importance of color-coding wires for simplicity and safety. A kill switch is mentioned as an optional component. The speaker demonstrates how to test for spark by removing the spark plug and attaching it to the coil, then kicking the engine over to observe the spark. They also guide viewers on how to use a digital multimeter to test the spark plug, coils, and CDI for proper function. Troubleshooting tips are provided, such as checking connections and ensuring the engine's ground is properly connected. The speaker reiterates that the setup shown is not final and lacks certain features like a kill switch and charging system, which are crucial for electric start motors.

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๐Ÿ Future Plans and Closing Thoughts

The speaker concludes by reiterating that the wiring setup demonstrated is a basic starting point and not the final configuration. They mention the need for a kill switch, key start, push-button start, and a charging system in a complete setup. The speaker shares their plans to create a cross cart using a 1984 250R two-stroke motor from a three-wheeled Honda ATC, outlining their approach to combining two frames and budget constraints. They express gratitude for the opportunity to work on such projects and encourage viewers to follow their social media for updates and additional content. The speaker also invites viewers to ask questions or provide insights, particularly regarding the CDI's function, which they admit to not fully understanding. They commit to sharing more tips and tricks as they learn and work on their business.

Mindmap

Keywords

๐Ÿ’กWiring Harness

A wiring harness is a collection of wires and cables that transmit electrical signals and power from one part of a system to another. In the context of the video, the wiring harness is part of a Chinese quad bike that needs to be rewired. The script mentions that the original wiring was 'an absolute mess,' indicating the complexity and disorganization of the original setup. The video aims to simplify this by explaining how to create a more organized and functional wiring system.

๐Ÿ’กCDI

CDI stands for Capacitor Discharge Ignition, which is an electronic system used in internal combustion engines to provide the spark needed for ignition. The video script discusses the role of the CDI in controlling the spark timing and how it connects with the engine's wires. It is a crucial component in the rewiring process as it determines the timing of the spark that ignites the fuel-air mixture in the engine's cylinders.

๐Ÿ’กSpark Coil

A spark coil is an electrical component that transforms low-voltage current into high-voltage current to create a spark in the spark plug. In the video, the spark coil is highlighted as the device that 'actually provides the spark to the spark plug.' It is a key part of the rewiring process as it ensures the engine can ignite the fuel-air mixture, which is essential for the engine to run.

๐Ÿ’กSolenoid

A solenoid is an electromechanical device that converts electrical energy into mechanical energy. In the context of the video, the solenoid is mentioned as an additional component for electric start systems. It is used to engage the starter motor, which then turns the engine over to initiate the starting process. The video suggests adding a solenoid for electric start functionality.

๐Ÿ’กKickstart

A kickstart is a manual mechanism used to start an engine by using the operator's foot to rotate the engine. The video script refers to the possibility of having 'kickstart electric start or both,' indicating that the rewiring process can accommodate different starting methods. The kickstart is a traditional way of starting engines, especially in motorcycles and some small engines.

๐Ÿ’กElectric Start

Electric start refers to the use of an electric motor to start an engine, eliminating the need for a manual kickstart. The script mentions electric start as an option for the rewiring process, which would involve connecting the electric start system to the engine. This is a modern convenience feature that simplifies the starting process for the user.

๐Ÿ’กHeat Shrink Wrap

Heat shrink wrap is a plastic tube that, when heated, shrinks tightly around an object to provide insulation and protection. In the video, heat shrink wrap is listed as one of the tools needed to put the wiring system together. It is used to insulate connections and protect them from the elements, ensuring a safe and reliable electrical connection.

๐Ÿ’กSoldering Iron

A soldering iron is a tool used to melt solder and join metal parts, creating a strong electrical connection. The script includes a soldering iron in the list of tools needed for the rewiring process. It is used to create secure and reliable electrical connections between wires and components, which is essential for the proper functioning of the electrical system.

๐Ÿ’กMultimeter

A multimeter is a test instrument that measures electrical properties such as voltage, current, and resistance. In the video, a multimeter is used to test the individual components of the wiring system, such as the spark plug and the CDI. It is an essential tool for troubleshooting and ensuring that each part of the electrical system is functioning correctly.

๐Ÿ’กGround

In the context of electrical systems, a ground is a common reference point for electrical potential. The video script mentions grounding as part of the rewiring process, where the green wire from the engine is connected to the CDI and the spark coil. Proper grounding is crucial for the safe operation of the electrical system, as it provides a path for excess current to be safely discharged.

๐Ÿ’กKill Switch

A kill switch is a safety device that allows the operator to quickly shut off the power to a system. The video script mentions the addition of a kill switch as an optional component in the rewiring process. It is an important safety feature that can prevent accidents by allowing the operator to immediately stop the engine in case of an emergency.

Highlights

The speaker is starting a business called Columbia Customs and will provide more information later.

The focus is on rewiring a Chinese quad, which the speaker initially found intimidating.

After watching YouTube videos and studying wiring diagrams, the speaker gained understanding and aims to simplify the process for viewers.

The typical wiring harness is messy, especially when components are missing or unclear which plugs go where.

Wiring is simpler than it seems; understanding the components' functions is key, regardless of whether the engine is kickstart, electric start, or both.

The speaker will demonstrate how to wire a basic spark circuit, which is essential for engine operation.

To start, all plastics are removed for better visibility and access to the wiring harness.

The speaker lists the components needed for the basic spark circuit: CDI, connectors, spark coil, and wires from the existing harness.

Tools required for the wiring process include wire cutting pliers, heat shrink wrap, a soldering iron, and solder.

The basic circuit does not include a kill switch and is only for testing if the engine will run; it's not safe to ride without one.

The speaker explains the function of each wire connected to the CDI and how to identify them by color and purpose.

A diagram is provided to illustrate the basic spark circuit, showing connections from the engine to the CDI and coil.

The speaker advises on the importance of proper grounding and avoiding sparks near gasoline vapors for safety.

Testing for spark involves removing the spark plug, connecting it to the coil, and kicking the engine over to check for a spark.

If no spark is detected, the speaker suggests testing each component starting with the spark plug and working back to the CDI and engine.

A digital multimeter is used to test for spark, coil function, and CDI resistance, with specific settings for each test.

The speaker emphasizes that the demonstrated setup is not final due to the lack of a kill switch and charging system.

Future videos will cover building a kill switch, key start, push button start, and setting up a charging system.

The speaker plans to combine a 1984 250R two-stroke motor with a three-wheeled ATC frame, creating a unique vehicle.

The speaker invites viewers to follow their social media for more frequent updates and shorter videos on various projects.

The speaker acknowledges the learning process and invites questions and comments for further discussion on the topic.

Transcripts

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hmm

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oh sorry i was too busy not making

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videos to see you there

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long story short i'll start a business

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finally

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i'm calling it columbia customs i'll

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give you all some more information on

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that later

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but for right now we're going to focus

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on rewiring this little chinese quad

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now originally wiring was really

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intimidating

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and i honestly paid someone to do it i

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just didn't want to have to deal with it

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but after watching a lot of youtube

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videos and looking at a few wiring

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diagrams i finally figured it out and

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i'm going to try and give you guys the

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most clear and concise version of it

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possible

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the typical wiring harness is an

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absolute mess

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mostly just because they're made to plug

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in but when you're missing components

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and you don't know what plugs into which

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it's a lot harder to figure out in

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reality wiring is a lot more simple than

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that you just need to know what does

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what

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depending if you have kickstart electric

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start or both

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there will be one to two circuits in

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this entire thing this will work no

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matter if your engine's kickstart

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or electric start if it's electric start

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only or you just want to use electric

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start

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it's a matter of adding this little

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solenoid first thing i'm going to do

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is take all the plastics off and get all

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the wiring harness out it's a lot easier

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to work on one of these things if you

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can actually see all of it at once

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pretty much everything's off i just need

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to take off the switches on the

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handlebars

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so

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now i'm going to show you guys the

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components you need for the basic spark

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circuit

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the easiest way to set this all up is to

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cut these components

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off this massive jangled mess of a

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wiring harness and lay them out what

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you're going to need are

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the cdi and the connectors

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and your spark coil

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along with this you can recycle the

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wires from your wiring harness

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and keep everything color coded it's a

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lot more simple that way

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in terms of tools you're going to need

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to put this all together

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a pair of wire cutting pliers some heat

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shrink wrap

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soldering iron and solder

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just to be clear this is the most simple

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circuit it doesn't have a kill switch

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this is just to see if your engine is

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going to run don't ride it this way or

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you might kill someone

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and i don't want to get sued

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while everything is disconnected i'm

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just going to really quick explain what

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everything does

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so the cdi is in control of your spark

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wires coming out of our engine this is

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the wire that provides the spark red and

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black the spark timing

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is blue and white the white and yellow

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are 12 volt

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so this is your ac current that goes to

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the rectifier and then the green one is

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your ground

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the spark coil is what actually provides

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the spark to the spark plug

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i'm going to explain the wiring for the

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cdi in terms of location of the pin

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because not all of these will have the

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same colors and the setup

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just so that it's more clear so from the

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top left of your cdi

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connects up with the blue and white

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coming from your engine

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the bottom right connects up to the red

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and black coming from your engine

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and then the bottom left the green

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connects to the green

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coming from your engine and then out of

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that

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you're going to connect up this green

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cable to these two green cables

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and then the top left the black and

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yellow is going to get connected up to

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the black and yellow

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on the coil all right so this is a

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diagram of the very basic spark circuit

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i drew up

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coming out of your engine you have your

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black and red

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which goes to your cdi you have your

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blue and white

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which goes to your cdi and you have your

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ground which goes to your cdi

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then you have your two 12 volt leads

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we're not worrying about this right now

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because this is for lights and a

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charging system

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and if you have a kickstart motor you're

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not gonna have to worry about that

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then coming out of the cdi

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you have your black and yellow which

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goes to the spark plug coil

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and also a connection of the ground

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which goes to the ground on the spark

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plug coil

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which then goes to your spark plug so a

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quick

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key to this if you can actually read my

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handwriting

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i'm gonna connect it all up

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all right so i don't have anything

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soldered yet but here's your basic

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circuit

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red and black from your engine goes to

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the bottom right

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of the cdi your blue and white from the

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engine

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goes to the top left of the cdi your

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ground and green from the engine

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go to the bottom left of the cdi

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um and then that ground also connects up

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with the ground or green coming off of

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your coil and then besides that you have

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this little kill switch

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which is optional there's other ways to

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set up a kill switch so you don't have

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to have that connected necessarily

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these especially if you're trying to

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start up the engine have them

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disconnected

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because they will they're the amount of

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power that comes out of them they will

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create an arc

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and if you have gas lying around and gas

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vapors that's going to be you know

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explosive

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if you have a kickstart motor you should

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be ready to test spark

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to do this take out your spark plug

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pretty sure this one's junk

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but we're just going to use it for

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demonstration purposes

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plug it into your coil make sure your

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spark plug

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is touching a bolt or uh exposed metal

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on the head for a decent crown

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and then kick it over and look for a

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spark

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in that gap right there however

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i don't have a kickstart motor so i'm

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gonna have to set up the electrical

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attach the other ground on the coil to

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the frame make sure everything else is

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connected

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no leads are touching

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so let's say you set this all up and

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you're still not getting any spark

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what we're going to do is really quick

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go through and test all the individual

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components

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starting from the spark plug and working

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our way back to the cdi and eventually

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the engine

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the only thing you're going to need to

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test all this is a digital multimeter

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first to test for spark

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set it to 20 volts dc unplug your spark

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plug

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take the negative black lead

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and make sure it touches the little

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piece of metal that's in the back of

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there

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and then take your other one and make it

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touch ground

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once you're holding everything in place

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turn the motor over and you should see

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a massive jump in power

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just like so you do that and it's still

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not working it's not showing any power

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on the multimeter

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next step is we're going to be testing

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the coils

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now to do this go to the connection we

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just made and do the same thing put the

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black

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on the oak connection on the black wire

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and put the red on the open connection

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on the green wire

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turn it over if there's still no spark

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it could be the cdi

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to test this blue wire we're actually

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going to switch

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the multimeter to resistance

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which is ohms this weird little symbol

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right here

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switch it to some absurdly high number

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attach one lead

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to the blue wire that's the other

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to the ground on the engine this is a

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lot easier to do with more than one

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person but if you can get it all

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once it's all in position turn the

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engine over

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and you should see a res change and

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resistance

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so the reason you test this one with

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ohms is because this is the spark plug

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signal

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so as a little magnet goes around in

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here each time it passes it

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it actually disconnects it which then

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lets the cdi know okay it's time to

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spark

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so let's say that's working but you're

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still not getting any spark

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move on to your black and red for black

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and red

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we're going to go back to current

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same thing make sure the lead has a

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solid connection

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and make sure it's grounded before you

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turn it over

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that you have it held here hands-free

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because if you're touching this

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and some part of the frame it'll give

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you a good shock

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all right go through turn the motor over

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and you should see a difference in

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current

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if both of those are working and you're

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still not getting spark

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go over all your connections once again

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and then the problem is most likely the

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cdi

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the other possibility could be that this

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ground

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which comes out of the motor is not

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properly grounded in there or not

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properly actually touching the base of

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the

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block or the engine block all right let

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me reiterate

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that is not the final uh setup you

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should use in terms of wiring because

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there's no kill switch

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there's also no charging system so if

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you're running a electric start motor

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your battery will eventually die unless

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you get something like a six dollar

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battery float charger from harbor

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freight or whatever um

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i'll do more videos updating on the rest

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of it so

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building a kill switch hooking up

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possible key start

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and push button start and then the

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setting up a charging system which is

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all pretty simple

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it's just i didn't have time to put it

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through this video i want to get it out

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quick so i can

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continue getting back to work and

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pushing out these projects so i can make

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some money to put into

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wait for it the cross cart

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i was blessed

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this 1984 250r two-stroke motor

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pulled right out of the sketchiest

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vehicle honda ever made

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the three wheeled death machine atc

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i'm going to be frankensteining these

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two frames together

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basically chopping off the top adding

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some kind of roll cage etc

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having the exhaust come out the back

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unfortunately not

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independent rear suspension just because

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control arms are very expensive and i

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don't have all the materials or money

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for that right now and i'm trying to do

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this on a budget

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but that's for another video let me know

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if this helped you at all

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um it took me a while to actually learn

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what everything did

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and i still don't fully understand

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exactly what the cdi does i know the

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role it plays but i don't know how it

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does it and it's nice to know

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so if anyone does know please leave it

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down in the comments

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or any questions you have leave them

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down in the comments and i'll do my best

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to answer them but for now

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be sure to follow the official regarding

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kid instagram account for all the

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updates

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i post a lot more on there than i do on

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here

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i'll also try and do little videos and

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shorts on stuff like this

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just wiring up speakers to some

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handlebars

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and putting it on my good friend's mini

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bike with the

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initial start and expansion of my

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business i'm able to do a lot more and

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have a lot more access to different

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stuff

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so i'll be learning a lot i'll be sure

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to share any tips and tricks

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with you guys as long as i don't forget

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to make videos

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