Back to the mind-body connection | Caroline Ferrer-Aza | TEDxLa Cote International School

TEDx Talks
6 Dec 202311:43

Summary

TLDRThe speaker recounts their struggle with mental health and physical symptoms, highlighting the importance of recognizing the body's messages for self-regulation. They discuss the historical divide between mind and body in Western medicine and the current resurgence of mind-body therapies. The talk emphasizes the significance of the mind-body connection in therapy, its relevance to various health issues, and the potential for healing at a cellular level. The speaker concludes with a call for a holistic approach to health and healing.

Takeaways

  • πŸ“š The speaker quotes Dr. Bessel van der Kolk emphasizing the importance of listening to the body's messages for self-regulation.
  • πŸŽ“ The speaker's personal journey began with feeling 'off' during their second year in college, which escalated to severe health issues by their third year.
  • πŸ€” Despite numerous medical tests, the speaker received no clear answers, highlighting the challenges in recognizing psychological causes for physical symptoms.
  • 😑 A misdiagnosis of anxiety by a doctor initially made the speaker feel unheard and invalidated, but later they realized the doctor was acknowledging the reality of their experience.
  • 🌐 The speaker discusses the historical separation of mind and body in Western medicine, contrasting it with the holistic approach of indigenous communities.
  • πŸ”¬ The script mentions various therapeutic approaches like somatic experiencing, Gestalt therapy, and EMDR that consider the mind-body connection.
  • 🧠 The importance of body language in therapy is highlighted, showing how physical space and positioning can communicate and influence the therapeutic relationship.
  • 🧬 A study on Holocaust survivors and their offspring reveals that stress responses can be genetically passed down through the fkbp5 Gene, indicating the deep impact of experiences on our biology.
  • 🌟 The speaker advocates for a return to a holistic view of health, where mental and physical health practitioners work together, recognizing the whole person.
  • 🀝 Healing is presented as a communal and holistic process, not an individual one, drawing on the wisdom of indigenous communities and modern therapeutic practices.

Q & A

  • What is the main message of the quote by Dr. Bessel van der Kolk mentioned in the script?

    -The main message is that ignoring or distorting the body's messages can lead to an inability to detect what is truly dangerous or harmful, as well as what is safe or nourishing. Self-regulation depends on having a friendly relationship with one's body.

  • Why did the speaker start therapy during their second year in college?

    -The speaker started therapy because they were feeling 'off' and had a history of mental health struggles in high school, hoping to address these issues.

  • What physical symptoms did the speaker experience during their third year in college?

    -The speaker experienced severe symptoms including difficulty retaining food, an inability to swallow solid food, rapid weight loss, and a feeling of being on electric shock therapy, to the point of being almost paralyzed and unable to leave their apartment.

  • What was the doctor's initial diagnosis at UCSF regarding the speaker's condition?

    -The doctor at UCSF initially ruled out Scleroderma as the cause of the speaker's symptoms, suggesting instead that anxiety might be the cause.

  • How did the speaker react to the doctor's suggestion that anxiety was causing their symptoms?

    -The speaker felt angry and unheard, interpreting the doctor's words as a dismissal of their very real physical symptoms, feeling that their experiences were being deemed unreal.

  • What is the significance of the body's communication in the context of the speaker's experience?

    -The body's communication is significant because it provides signs and signals about one's health and well-being. The speaker had ignored these signs, leading to a breakdown in their relationship with their body and a failure to recognize both harmful and nourishing elements in their life.

  • How did the historical perspective on mind-body connection influence the speaker's understanding of their condition?

    -The historical perspective showed that indigenous communities considered the individual holistically, which contrasted with the Western approach that led to a divide between mind and body. This influenced the speaker's understanding by highlighting the importance of a unified approach to health.

  • What therapeutic approaches have emerged in the 20th century that consider the mind-body connection?

    -Various therapeutic approaches such as somatic experiencing, Gestalt therapy, EMDR therapy, hypnotherapy, and art therapy have emerged, focusing on involving the body in the healing process.

  • How does the speaker suggest that body language and movement can be utilized in clinical practice?

    -The speaker suggests that body language and movement can be used to build relationships with clients, read their needs and wants, and adjust the therapeutic approach accordingly, such as sitting closer or further away, or adjusting eye contact.

  • What does the study on Holocaust survivors and their offspring reveal about the mind-body connection?

    -The study reveals that the physical response to stress can be genetically primed across generations, indicating that the mind-body connection can have deep cellular and genetic implications, affecting individuals even at a DNA level.

  • What is the speaker's hope for the future regarding the mind-body connection?

    -The speaker hopes for a return to a holistic approach where mental and medical practitioners view the human as a whole, communicate effectively, and recognize the importance of both the mind and body in health. They also hope for a collective healing experience, drawing from indigenous wisdom.

Outlines

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🧠 The Disconnection of Mind and Body

The speaker begins by quoting Dr. Bessel van der Kolk, emphasizing the importance of recognizing the body's signals for self-regulation. They recount their personal experience from 2016 when they were in college and started feeling unwell, which they initially attributed to the stress of Pokemon Go's popularity. Despite a history of mental health issues, therapy wasn't providing answers. Their condition worsened to the point of difficulty swallowing solid food and experiencing physical paralysis. Despite numerous medical tests, no clear diagnosis was given until a doctor at UCSF suggested anxiety as the cause. This diagnosis was initially frustrating as it felt dismissive of their very real physical symptoms. The speaker reflects on how they had ignored their body's signals, both dangerous and safe, leading to a breakdown in communication with their body.

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🌟 The Rise of Mind-Body Therapies

The speaker discusses the historical separation of mind and body in Western medicine, which began around the 17th century with the philosopher Descartes' dualism. They note a resurgence in the 20th century of therapeutic approaches that consider both aspects, such as somatic experiencing, Gestalt therapy, EMDR, hypnotherapy, and art therapy. The speaker shares an example of their own art therapy piece. They explain how even in clinical practice, body language and movement are crucial for understanding clients and building therapeutic relationships. The speaker also highlights the importance of recognizing non-verbal cues and how they can indicate a client's needs and the state of the therapeutic relationship. The Mind-Body Connection is beneficial for everyone and has been shown to be effective in treating chronic pain, depression, trauma, PTSD, stress, anxiety, and cancer.

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πŸ”¬ The Cellular Impact of Mind-Body Connection

The speaker delves into research that shows the mind-body connection can have deep cellular impacts, citing a study by Yehuda on Holocaust survivors and their offspring. This study found that the physical response to stress could be genetically passed down through the fkbp5 gene, indicating that the effects of trauma can be inherited. The speaker hopes for a future where mental and medical practitioners view the human as a whole, acknowledging the reality and importance of both mental and physical health. They reflect on their own experience, realizing that the doctor who diagnosed their anxiety was actually recognizing their condition holistically. The speaker concludes by advocating for a collective understanding of our cellular communication to foster empathy and communal healing, drawing inspiration from indigenous communities' holistic healing practices.

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Keywords

πŸ’‘Mind-Body Connection

The mind-body connection refers to the link between a person's mental and physical health, where emotional and psychological states can influence physical well-being. In the video, the speaker discusses how ignoring or misinterpreting signals from the body can lead to losing touch with what is safe or dangerous, as illustrated through their personal journey of physical symptoms triggered by anxiety.

πŸ’‘Self-Regulation

Self-regulation is the ability to manage one’s emotions, thoughts, and behaviors in different situations. It is dependent on having a 'friendly relationship with your body,' as mentioned in the video. The speaker reflects on how losing touch with their body led to mismanaging anxiety and physical health issues.

πŸ’‘Anxiety

Anxiety is a psychological state characterized by feelings of worry, nervousness, or unease. In the video, the speaker shares their experience of developing severe physical symptoms that were ultimately attributed to anxiety. Despite initial frustration with this diagnosis, they later realized that anxiety had a profound impact on their health.

πŸ’‘Chronic Pain

Chronic pain refers to persistent pain that lasts for weeks, months, or even years. The video mentions how mind-body approaches are particularly useful for addressing chronic pain by helping individuals reconnect with their bodies and better understand the sources of their discomfort.

πŸ’‘Somatic Therapy

Somatic therapy is a therapeutic approach that emphasizes the role of the body in mental health and trauma recovery. It is one of the body-focused therapies mentioned in the video as part of the resurgence of treatments that integrate mind and body, helping individuals process emotions and trauma through bodily sensations.

πŸ’‘Indigenous Healing Practices

Indigenous healing practices are holistic approaches used by native communities, viewing individuals through biological, psychological, social, and spiritual lenses. The speaker contrasts modern Western medicine’s mind-body divide with Indigenous cultures' holistic healing methods, emphasizing community involvement in the healing process.

πŸ’‘Holistic Health

Holistic health is the concept of treating the whole person, including their physical, mental, and emotional well-being. The speaker advocates for a return to holistic practices, where both mental health practitioners and medical doctors collaborate to treat patients as whole individuals, rather than separating mind from body.

πŸ’‘Body Language

Body language refers to non-verbal communication through gestures, posture, and physical movements. In therapy, body language is a critical part of building rapport with clients. The speaker highlights the importance of reading body language to understand a person's needs, wants, and emotions during counseling sessions.

πŸ’‘Gene Expression

Gene expression refers to how genetic instructions are used to create proteins, influencing traits and bodily functions. The video cites research on Holocaust survivors and their descendants, showing how trauma can affect gene expression and be passed down to future generations, demonstrating the depth of the mind-body connection.

πŸ’‘Art Therapy

Art therapy is a form of therapy that uses creative processes to help individuals express emotions and process trauma. The speaker shares their personal experience with art therapy as a powerful tool for reconnecting with the body and healing, showcasing one of their first art therapy pieces during the talk.

Highlights

The importance of listening to the body's messages for self-regulation and health.

The speaker's personal struggle with mental health and physical symptoms during college.

The misdiagnosis and frustration with the medical system's inability to identify the cause of the speaker's symptoms.

The eventual realization that anxiety was a significant factor in the speaker's health issues.

The historical context of the mind-body connection and its decline in Western medicine.

The resurgence of mind-body approaches in psychology and therapy.

The use of art therapy and its impact on the speaker's healing process.

The significance of body language and movement in therapeutic settings.

The mind-body connection's relevance to a wide range of health issues, including chronic pain and PTSD.

The intergenerational impact of stress on genetics, as seen in studies of Holocaust survivors and their offspring.

The potential for the mind-body connection to improve understanding and empathy between individuals.

The importance of viewing the client as a whole in both mental and physical health practices.

The speaker's hope for a future where mental health and medical practitioners work together with a holistic view of the patient.

The value of learning from indigenous communities' approach to healing as a communal and holistic experience.

The conclusion that healing is an experience meant to be shared and approached as a whole.

Transcripts

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[Applause]

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hi everyone I'm going to start with a

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quote

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the price for ignoring or distorting the

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body's messages is being unable to

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detect what is truly dangerous or

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harmful for you and just as bad what is

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safe or nourishing self-regulation

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depends on having a friendly

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relationship with your body

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this is a quote from Dr bezel

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vanderklook from his book the body keeps

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the score and is a very true quote for

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myself so I'll quickly take you back to

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2016 a time where Pokemon go came out

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and people were just wandering around

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the streets looking for Pokemon

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I was currently in my second year of my

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bachelor's degree in Hawaii and started

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to feel off is the best way I could put

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it now I've had a history with some

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struggles with mental health back in

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high school and thought I'll go see a

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therapist again why not and started up

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therapy but nothing was really happening

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um I didn't have a lot to say and I

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couldn't really explain why I felt off

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but I kind of went anyways out of habit

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and brushed it all aside but as this was

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going on and I was entering my third

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year I began to get quite sick and what

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started as something quite small

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snowballed about halfway through my

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third year it became to the point where

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I was hardly retaining any food at a

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certain point I pretty much could only

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eat liquid food solid food had just

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become impossible to even swallow and

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obviously from that rapidly losing

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weight at the same time my body had

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become so activated that I was often

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felt almost paralyzed and like I was on

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electric shock therapy at the same time

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I hardly could even leave my apartment

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to go get the mail down outside and

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while all this was happening I was

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getting tests right left and Center uh

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and with every test I came back well

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there's not a lot I can tell you there's

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nothing really going on here and the

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furthest I got was yeah your throat

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muscles aren't really working that great

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and no one could give me an answer and

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finally as it became more dire my mother

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actually became concerned that maybe I

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had something called Scleroderma and

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some type of it that was infecting my

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internal organs so we went to UCSF got

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the test done sat down with the doctor

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me and my parents and the doctor looked

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at me and said it's not Scleroderma you

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can relax now I was starting to already

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get angry because I just wanted an

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answer and then he said I think it's

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anxiety that's causing this

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and I was fuming I was like a bowl in

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the china shop coming out of that

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doctor's appointment because based on my

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experience in the world what I heard him

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say was this isn't actually real it's

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just kind of all happening inside of

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your head and for me it was very very

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real and so I had felt unseen and

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unheard in that moment but you'll come

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to find out as I get to the end of this

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it was quite a bit different and for me

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this quote really embodies that I was

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ignoring all the messages from myself

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both on what was dangerous and and what

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was safe and I had completely lost the

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relationship with my body at that point

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as well

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and when we talk about with

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communication in the body our body gives

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us a lot of different signs a lot of

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different systems will talk to us and

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that can be things like acute and

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chronic pain heart palpitations in my

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case GI issues and muscle tension nerve

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firings temperature changes

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um shortness of breath a whole this is

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just a short list of them but it's

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important that we're able to listen to

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them but we really do struggle to do it

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especially in today's world but hasn't

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always really been this way and the

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answer is no historically we actually

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used to have a very good connection with

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the mind and body and we can actually

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look to indigenous communities across

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the world and see how when there is an

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individual in some sort of peril they

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really look at the individual through

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multiple different lenses biologically

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psychologically socially and spiritually

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and they they really take the person as

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a whole regarding the whole healing

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experience as well it's a community

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event it's usually not an individual

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type of healing but we found in the

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Western World we started to get this

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divide around the 17th century

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um one of these kind of being with the

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French philosopher

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and his dualism idea that you have the

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body as one entity and then you have the

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mind or Soul who use kind of

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interchangeably as a other sort of

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distinct substance but is this kind of

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still true today you know where are we

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today if it has been that way in the

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past and kind of has ebbed and flowed

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well today we're starting to see a

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Resurgence around the 20th century we

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started to see actually in the

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psychology field these various

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therapeutic approaches start to come up

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that really take the mind and body into

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consideration so you have some like

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somatic experiencing you have Gestalt

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therapy EMDR therapy hypnotherapy and

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even art therapy and actually that's one

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of my very first art therapy pieces I

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had ever done and we find that these

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approaches

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um really their their big idea is

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involving the body but even within

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clinical practice or Counseling Practice

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you can still utilize various mind-body

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techniques and practices and movement in

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general as a way to help heal and build

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relationships with clients because we

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find that even just how we sit with the

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client and are within the space and how

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the clients is sitting with us and is

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within the space really says a lot about

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the needs the wants and the relationship

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between the two and this becomes really

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important with where like how we read

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body language and how it's really just

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as important as verbal language and

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often tells us a whole lot more and when

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we pay attention to it we can better

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build the relationship so kind of like

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how these two pictures show with

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different clients who start to find

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different ways of sitting so with one

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client you might find that it's really

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useful to be quite closer together but

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maybe you need to kind of sit more side

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by side face on isn't nearly as as good

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of a way and then you might have someone

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come in right after that person who you

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actually have to sit a bit further apart

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and you need to avoid kind of eye

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contact no prolonged eye contact even

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within a single session you could have

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that change completely and you're always

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as a as a practitioner and for me as a

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counselor trying to gauge the other

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person and seeing you know do I kind of

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need to back off and show that I'm

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giving them some personal space or do I

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need to be engaged a bit more and show

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them that I'm here with them in this

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moment and this is where even just small

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movements in the in the therapy space

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plays a really vital role

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and you know who or what does the Mind

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Body Connection help well the who is

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pretty much everyone I don't think I've

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sat with anyone in a session and have

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gone oh yeah this totally is irrelevant

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to our time here together it's always

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been relevant in some sort of capacity

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um and see what does it help and at

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least in the therapeutic sense is many

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different things but it's just looking

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at research we have founded the very

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useful for things like chronic pain

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depression trauma or PTSD stress anxiety

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and cancer as well so we're finding now

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that it's starting to come in both not

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only in the mental health sphere but

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also with the physical health sphere as

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well in Hospitals and Clinics too which

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is really important

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and you might be asking okay my My Body

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Connection brain stem okay I'm there

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with you on that they communicate got it

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but how deep could it really actually go

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and the answer is actually really deep

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uh there was a study done by Yehuda and

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some other various researchers looking

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actually at Holocaust Survivors their

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offspring and then utilizing a

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controlled sample and they were looking

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at the

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fkbp5 Gene and researching this Gene and

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what they found was that the physical

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response to stress could actually be

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primed intergenerationally through

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genetics so what I mean by that sentence

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is that they found that the specific

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site on this Gene kind of related to

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that aspect had some changes on it and

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they were looking at the offspring's

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gene of this so changes on the

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offsprings Gene was actually able to be

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attributed to the parents Holocaust

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experience and not any of their own

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experiences not any of their own traumas

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or mental health issues and it's

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incredibly fascinating because we don't

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only see the body and communication

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being important in in the here and now

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things that are happening but it's

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affecting us at a cellular even DNA

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level where genetically things can get

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passed on it goes as deep as that

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and so where I hope we are heading is

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really back to a place of Mind Body

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Connection

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um for one that the mental health

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practitioners and medical practitioners

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are looking at a human as a whole

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um and able to communicate to each other

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but to see also that client as who they

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fully are and recognize the the whole

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total of them and that the mind and body

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one is not more real or important than

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another and I think that doctor in that

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office that was what he was trying to

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say to me I was just not ready to hear

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that yet when I think he was really

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saying was this is really real and this

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is really happening and I respect you

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enough to tell you that I think it's

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actually anxiety and I'm not the one

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who's going to be able to help you with

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that he was seeing me as a whole no

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other doctor had ever given me that

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answer before and he was a hundred

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percent correct on top of some other

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experiences that I had to the process as

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well but the anxiety was definitely a

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huge piece in what was happening with me

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the other Prospect is that if we start

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to understand our own cellular level of

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communication then we can better

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understand ourselves but we can also

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better understand each other and that's

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where we really start to pick up on as I

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talked about these small key kind of

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movements and body languages that play a

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really vital role in being able to

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really be there for each other and

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lastly I hope we take from our own

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history and the indigenous communities

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around us and begin to heal together as

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healing is an experience not meant to do

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alone or in Parts it's an experience to

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have together and as a whole thank you

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[Applause]

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