Shut Up About NATO Expansion

Sarcasmitron
2 Jan 202336:18

Summary

TLDREste guion explora las diversas teorías sobre por qué Rusia, bajo el liderazgo de Putin, inició la guerra contra Ucrania, abarcando desde el deseo de recuperar reservas naturales hasta influencias de filósofos extremistas. Analiza la expansión de la OTAN como una posible provocación percibida por Rusia, citando el cambio en la política exterior estadounidense y las complicaciones geopolíticas resultantes. Se cuestiona la efectividad de estas teorías para explicar completamente las acciones de Rusia, sugiriendo que factores como el resentimiento, la política interna de Putin y teorías más complejas y menos exploradas podrían jugar un papel crucial en este conflicto.

Takeaways

  • 🇷🇺 Putin posiblemente inició la guerra en Ucrania por una combinación de motivos, incluidos deseos expansionistas, reacciones a la expansión de la OTAN y teorías filosóficas nacionalistas.
  • 🔍 Hay varias teorías sobre las razones detrás de la agresión rusa hacia Ucrania, desde el deseo de Putin de restaurar el antiguo poder soviético hasta respuestas a la expansión de la OTAN.
  • 🌍 La expansión de la OTAN hacia el este ha sido interpretada por algunos como una amenaza directa a Rusia, lo que podría justificar, en su perspectiva, acciones defensivas.
  • 📚 Expertos y académicos ofrecen diversos análisis sobre la crisis, incluyendo el papel de la OTAN y la percepción rusa de estar cercada.
  • 🤔 El papel del nacionalismo y la identidad rusa, según Putin, sugiere una unión espiritual y territorial con Ucrania, lo que complica las dinámicas internacionales.
  • 📉 La opinión pública rusa y la influencia de la propaganda interna pueden jugar un papel significativo en el apoyo a las acciones del gobierno en Ucrania.
  • 💬 Las declaraciones de Putin sobre la tragedia de la caída de la URSS indican una posible motivación para recuperar territorios y restaurar la influencia rusa.
  • 📅 Los acontecimientos históricos, como el acuerdo de no expansión de la OTAN a cambio de la reunificación alemana, resuenan en las tensiones actuales.
  • 🚀 La estrategia militar y las decisiones de política exterior de Rusia parecen impulsadas por una mezcla de objetivos estratégicos, percepciones de seguridad y narrativas históricas.
  • 🌐 El complejo contexto internacional, que incluye relaciones pasadas entre Rusia y países occidentales, así como la expansión de la OTAN, influye en las acciones y percepciones actuales.

Q & A

  • ¿Cuáles eran las supuestas ganancias de Rusia al iniciar la guerra contra Ucrania?

    -Las teorías incluyen desde la captura de reservas naturales de gas hasta influencias de filósofos radicales. Sin embargo, estas no ofrecen una explicación completa.

  • ¿Qué papel jugó la expansión de la OTAN en el razonamiento de Rusia para la guerra?

    -Se sugiere que Rusia vio la expansión de la OTAN hacia Europa del Este como una amenaza directa y un acto de agresión por parte de Estados Unidos, lo que contribuyó a su decisión de invadir Ucrania.

  • ¿Qué efectos tuvo la promesa de no expandir la OTAN hacia el este, hecha a Gorbachov?

    -Aunque inicialmente se prometió no expandir la OTAN hacia el este, esta promesa se rompió más tarde, contribuyendo a tensiones entre Rusia y Occidente.

  • ¿Cómo reaccionaron los países de Europa del Este ante la expansión de la OTAN?

    -Países como Polonia mostraron un fuerte deseo de unirse a la OTAN, buscando garantías de seguridad y llegando a presionar políticamente para su inclusión.

  • ¿Qué consecuencias tuvo para Rusia la rápida transición hacia una economía de mercado en los años 90?

    -La transición causó una profunda crisis económica y social en Rusia, exacerbada por políticas de privatización apresuradas y falta de apoyo adecuado.

  • ¿Cómo influyó la política exterior de Estados Unidos en la percepción rusa durante la presidencia de Bill Clinton?

    -La decisión de expandir la OTAN, vista como una traición a promesas previas, exacerbó la desconfianza rusa hacia Estados Unidos.

  • ¿Qué papel jugó la invasión de Georgia en 2008 en la relación entre Rusia y la OTAN?

    -La invasión de Georgia por parte de Rusia se interpretó como una respuesta directa a los intentos de acercamiento de Georgia a la OTAN, aumentando las tensiones.

  • ¿Cómo cambió la postura de Estados Unidos hacia Rusia y la OTAN con la presidencia de Barack Obama?

    -Bajo Obama, hubo un intento de reiniciar las relaciones con Rusia y una disminución en la presión para incluir a Ucrania y Georgia en la OTAN.

  • ¿Cuál fue la reacción de Rusia ante el movimiento pro-occidental de Ucrania, conocido como Euromaidán?

    -La respuesta de Rusia al Euromaidán fue invadir Crimea y apoyar a separatistas en el este de Ucrania, citando la intervención occidental como justificación.

  • ¿Influyó realmente la expansión de la OTAN en la decisión de Rusia de invadir Ucrania?

    -Aunque la expansión de la OTAN es citada como un factor, la decisión de Rusia también estuvo influenciada por motivaciones internas y la percepción de una oportunidad estratégica.

Outlines

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🤔 Análisis de las intenciones de Rusia en el conflicto

Este párrafo explora las posibles razones que impulsaron a Rusia, bajo el liderazgo de Putin, a iniciar un conflicto que parecía predestinado al fracaso. Se mencionan varias teorías, desde el deseo de acceder a los recursos de gas natural de Ucrania hasta la idea de que el Kremlin está influenciado por filósofos locos. También se discute la afirmación de Putin de que la disolución de la Unión Soviética fue una tragedia, y se sugiere que las teorías actuales no explican completamente las motivaciones de Rusia.

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📜 Historia y promesas rotas: el debate NATO-Rusia

Este segmento aborda la historia de las negociaciones entre Jim Baker y Mikhail Gorbachev, y la promesa no documentada de no expandir NATO hacia el este. Se describe cómo Estados Unidos se retractó de esta promesa y la implicación de esta acción en la percepción de Rusia. Además, se menciona la teoría de que Rusia actuó en defensa propia ante la expansión de NATO, una narrativa popular que ha sido desafiada por expertos en relaciones internacionales como John Mearsheimer.

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🇷🇺 La lucha interna de Rusia y su impacto en la política exterior

Este párrafo relata los eventos que llevaron a la disolución de la Unión Soviética y la posterior crisis económica de Rusia. Se describe el 500 Días program de Gorbachev, los intentos de transición a una economía de mercado y los desafíos que enfrentaron. Además, se menciona el golpe de estado fallido de 1991, la independencia de Ucrania y la decisión de Rusia de abandonar la unión y reconstruir su economía bajo Boris Yeltsin.

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🔥Crisis y desafíos en Rusia: la década de 1990

Este segmento detalla la serie de crisis que enfrentaron Rusia y sus repúblicas después de la disolución de la Unión Soviética. Se mencionan la inflación, la crisis parlamentaria, el crimen organizado, la corrupción oficial y la crisis bancaria, así como los dos guerras civiles y el islamismo. También se relata la situación en Chechnya y las tácticas rusas que causaron numerosas bajas civiles.

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🌍La expansión de NATO y la respuesta de Rusia

Este párrafo examina la insistencia de países como Polonia en unirse a NATO y las tácticas utilizadas para lograrlo. Se describe el cambio en la política estadounidense de la inacción a la expansión de NATO, y cómo la presión de Eastern Europe y la falta de experiencia en política exterior de Bill Clinton influyeron en esta decisión. Además, se discute la aprobación de Yeltsin para la expansión y las implicaciones políticas de esta acción.

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🔄El cambio en la política de NATO y la percepción de Rusia

Este segmento aborda el cambio en la política de NATO hacia la aceptación de nuevos miembros y cómo esto afectó la percepción de Rusia. Se mencionan las acciones de Bush y Obama en relación con Rusia y Ucrania, y cómo estas decisiones influyeron en la relación entre los dos países. Además, se discute la teoría de que Rusia actuó en respuesta a la expansión de NATO, y por qué esta teoría es problemática y no justifica la invasión de Ucrania por parte de Rusia.

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🎉 Agradecimientos y reflexiones finales

Este párrafo es un agradecimiento a los patrocinadores y un resumen de los eventos y discusiones previos. No contiene información relevante al tema principal del conflicto entre Rusia y Ucrania, sino más bien actúa como una conclusión al dar las gracias a aquellos que apoyan el contenido.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡OTAN

La OTAN (Organización del Tratado del Atlántico Norte) es una alianza militar intergubernamental basada en el Tratado del Atlántico Norte firmado en 1949. En el contexto del vídeo, la expansión de la OTAN hacia Europa del Este es presentada como un factor crucial y controvertido en la tensión entre Rusia y los países occidentales, especialmente Estados Unidos. La expansión es vista por algunos como una provocación hacia Rusia y una violación de acuerdos previos, lo que ha llevado a debates sobre si ha sido un factor que justifica las acciones militares rusas en países como Ucrania.

💡Vladimir Putin

Vladimir Putin es el presidente de Rusia y figura central en el vídeo, que examina sus posibles motivaciones y justificaciones para la intervención militar en Ucrania. Se mencionan varias teorías sobre sus objetivos, desde la reconstrucción del antiguo poder soviético hasta la respuesta a la expansión de la OTAN. La personalidad de Putin y sus declaraciones públicas son analizadas para intentar comprender la lógica detrás de las acciones rusas en el contexto geopolítico actual.

💡Ucrania

Ucrania es el epicentro de la crisis descrita en el vídeo, siendo el país que ha sufrido la intervención militar de Rusia. La compleja historia de Ucrania, sus aspiraciones europeas y su posición estratégica entre Rusia y Europa occidental son claves para entender los conflictos actuales. El vídeo explora cómo la situación en Ucrania refleja problemas más amplios de seguridad, identidad y poder en la región.

💡Guerra Fría

La Guerra Fría es el período de tensión geopolítica entre el bloque soviético liderado por la URSS y el bloque occidental liderado por Estados Unidos después de la Segunda Guerra Mundial hasta la disolución de la Unión Soviética en 1991. El vídeo utiliza este contexto histórico para explicar las raíces de las actuales tensiones entre Rusia y Occidente, especialmente en relación con la expansión de la OTAN y la percepción de amenazas a la seguridad.

💡Expansión de la OTAN

La expansión de la OTAN hacia Europa del Este después de la Guerra Fría es presentada en el vídeo como un punto de fricción significativo en las relaciones ruso-occidentales. Esta expansión es percibida por Rusia como una amenaza a su seguridad y una violación de acuerdos implícitos post-Guerra Fría, lo que ha contribuido al deterioro de las relaciones y ha sido utilizado como justificación para algunas de las acciones de Rusia en la región.

💡Crisis de Crimea

La crisis de Crimea en 2014, donde Rusia anexó la península de Crimea de Ucrania, es un evento crucial mencionado en el vídeo. Esta acción es vista como un momento de escalada significativa en el conflicto entre Rusia y Ucrania, y también como un ejemplo de la disposición de Rusia para usar la fuerza militar para alcanzar sus objetivos geopolíticos, aumentando las tensiones con Occidente.

💡Soberanía

La soberanía se refiere al poder absoluto y autoridad de un estado para gobernar sobre su territorio y población sin interferencia externa. En el vídeo, la soberanía de Ucrania es un tema central, ya que las acciones de Rusia en Crimea y otras partes de Ucrania son interpretadas por muchos como violaciones a la soberanía ucraniana y, por extensión, un desafío al orden internacional basado en reglas.

💡Geopolítica

La geopolítica es el estudio de cómo los factores geográficos y territoriales influyen en las relaciones internacionales y las estrategias políticas. El vídeo analiza la situación en Ucrania y la expansión de la OTAN desde una perspectiva geopolítica, considerando cómo la geografía, la historia y la política de la región afectan las decisiones de los actores clave como Rusia, Ucrania y las potencias occidentales.

💡Agresión militar

La agresión militar se refiere al uso de la fuerza armada por un estado contra la soberanía, integridad territorial o independencia de otro estado. El vídeo discute las intervenciones militares de Rusia en Ucrania como ejemplos de agresión militar, analizando las implicaciones de estas acciones para la seguridad regional, las relaciones internacionales y los principios de soberanía y derecho internacional.

💡Filosofía nacionalista

La filosofía nacionalista en el contexto del vídeo se refiere a las ideologías y creencias que enfatizan la importancia de la identidad nacional, la soberanía y, a veces, la superioridad cultural o histórica de una nación sobre otras. Se sugiere que tales filosofías pueden estar influenciando las políticas de Rusia hacia Ucrania y su postura general en el escenario internacional, incluyendo la justificación de acciones militares y territoriales.

Highlights

Russia's perceived need to start a war explained through various theories, from pursuing Ukraine's natural gas to philosophical influences.

Putin's complex motivations, from resolving a non-existent humanitarian crisis to claiming spiritual bonds between Ukraine and Russia.

Public theories about the war range from Putin being isolation-crazy to a desire to reunify the USSR.

Analysis of the theory that Russia acted in preemptive self-defense against American aggression through NATO expansion.

The historical narrative of American aggression and Russian victimization, challenging the idea that NATO expansion provoked Russia.

The controversial 1991 promise not to expand NATO eastward and its implications for Russian-American relations.

The shift from cooperation to conflict with NATO expansion, and its effects on Russia's international standing.

Eastern European countries' push for NATO membership as a security guarantee, challenging the narrative of American aggression.

Clinton's diplomatic efforts with Yeltsin to manage NATO expansion, revealing the complexities of international relations.

The impact of leadership changes in the US and Russia on their countries' foreign policies and relations.

Obama's attempts to reset relations with Russia, including adjustments to missile defense plans and nuclear arms reduction.

The Maidan Revolution's role in escalating tensions between Russia and the West, and its impact on NATO expansion discussions.

Putin's refusal to accept offered 'off-ramps' during the crisis, escalating the conflict despite diplomatic efforts.

The 2016 US election interference by Russia as an escalation of conflict, contradicting efforts to improve relations.

The critique of geopolitics experts for overlooking the complexities of Russian motivations and actions.

A unique theory proposing a missing piece to understanding the full scope of the conflict, hinting at a deeper narrative.

Transcripts

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so let's cut to the chase here

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why what did Russia or at least Putin

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think he had to gain by starting this

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war it's easy to forget now with Russia

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struggling to hold on to its marginal

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gains that this was supposed to be the

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easy part even if Russia had gotten its

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three-day victory in the conventional

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War there was always an even bigger

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Quagmire waiting for them there at the

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finish line if they installed a friendly

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government and left it would immediately

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be overthrown if they stayed they'd have

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to face an Insurgency and if they tried

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to just stop at conquering half the

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country they'd have to defend a more

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than 500 mile long border

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so what was the plan here I've heard a

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lot of theories from Putin going after

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Ukraine's natural gas reserves to a

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theory that the Kremlin is enthralled to

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insane philosophers who all talk like

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Final Fantasy villains every so-called

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truth is the matter of believing so we

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believe in what we do we believe in what

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we say and that is the only way to

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divide the truth American cable news

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pundits seemed to switch between

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thinking it's because he's gone covet

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isolation crazy or because he's always

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harbored a secret desire to reunify the

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USSR for instance did you know that

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Vladimir Putin once said the collapse in

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the Soviet Empire was a great tragedy

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Vladimir Putin was the man who described

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the collapse of the USSR as the greatest

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geopolitical catastrophe the collapse of

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the Soviet Union quote the greatest

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catastrophe the greatest geopolitical

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tragedy as the greatest tragedy of the

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20th century not just a great tragedy

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but the greatest geopolitical

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catastrophe in the 20th century never

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mind World War II even Putin can't

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decide on the single story one day he's

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claiming he needs to resolve the

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imaginary humanitarian crisis in Donetsk

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and the next he's writing insane 7 000

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word essays on how Ukraine and Russia

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are spiritually bonded and what about

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the Russian people why are they going

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along with this theories seem to range

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from them being completely propagandized

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to them just all being Orcs And it's

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hard not to feel like all of these

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theories leave a lot to be desired even

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if you combine them however there's one

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Theory I feel compelled to debunk in

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detail because it is very specific it's

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materialist it's intuitive and you sound

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like a rational big brain geopolitics

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understander when you repeat it and it

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embodies a whole historical Narrative of

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russian-american relations that is very

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popular even among opponents of Putin's

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War this is of course the theory that

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Russia is acting in preemptive

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self-defense self-defense against

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American aggression best embodied by

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America's decision to expand NATO to

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Eastern Europe including potentially

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Ukraine in Washington the foreign

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Ministers of Canada Denmark Iceland

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Italy Norway Portugal and the United

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States signed with the nations of

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Western Union the North Atlantic Pact

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this was no treaty aimed at aggression

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but a pledge to cooperate in defense of

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the peace for those catching up NATO is

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a mutual defense pact if one country is

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attacked every other country in NATO is

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obliged to help defend it but if one

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country decides to go out on its own and

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start a war the rest of NATO can say

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you're on your own since the alliance

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was founded at the start of the Cold War

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to deter Soviet power creep expanding it

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Eastward could reasonably be interpreted

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as an attempt to strangle Russia at a

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time when America was supposed to be

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softening its posture towards Russia

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after all how would America like it if

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China formed a military alliance with

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Mexico but in many ways the theory that

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America provoked the war through NATO

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expansion isn't just about NATO it's an

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elaborate Narrative of 30 years of

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American aggression and Russian

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victimization there are several lectures

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that have gotten very popular on YouTube

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that explain this narrative but the most

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watched is this one from renowned

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international relations scholar John

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mayersheimer the Russians didn't conquer

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or invade Crimea because they had a

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leasing agreement there's a naval base

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at sevastopol and the Russians were

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leasing that Naval base from Ukraine so

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they had military forces there

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mayorscheimer has developed a reputation

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among certain communities as the

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Cassandra of the Russo Ukrainian war and

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as a result has become an extremely

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polarizing figure I've linked his

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lecture and others in the description

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but for the sake of brevity I'll

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summarize allow me to present the great

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NATO sob story of 1991-2014.

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it's 1990 and Secretary of State Jim

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Baker has oh no no okay I can't I can't

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do voices we're we're gonna have to do

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this normal voice

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it's 1990 and U.S Secretary of State Jim

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Baker and chairman of the USSR Mikhail

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Gorbachev are negotiating what to do

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about Germany now that the wall has come

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down Gorbachev wants Germany to leave

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NATO and America wants Germany to stay

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in NATO even after it absorbs East

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Germany so in order to get Gorbachev's

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agreement to let East Germany join NATO

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Jim Baker promised America would never

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expand NATO to any countries to the east

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of Germany that should have been the

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happy end of the story but America had

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other plans because soon after that

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meeting America immediately engineered

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the collapse of the Soviet Union then

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forced a newly born country of Russia to

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destroy its own economy by privatizing

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too much or too quickly or by giving

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Russia not enough Aid money or by giving

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Russia too much Aid money or by

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conditioning the aid too much or by

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conditioning the aid not enough or

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something I don't know it depends on who

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you ask everyone kind of glosses over

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this point then with Russia crippled

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America went back on its work and

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annexed Poland czechia and Hungary into

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NATO and then lied about there ever

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having been an agreement then it refused

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to let Russia join NATO proving the open

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door policy was a lie and that the

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expansion was aimed more towards hemming

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in Russia then it bombed Serbia for no

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reason

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tore up the anti-ballistic missile

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treaty immediately started building

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interceptors then it annexed the Baltic

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states putting NATO troops and missiles

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within spitball range of Saint

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Petersburg and it was only finally when

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America was getting ready to finish the

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job by annexing Georgia and Ukraine that

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Russia decided it had no choice but to

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push back and defend itself by invading

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first Georgia and then Ukraine but the

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American Empire drunk on its arrogance

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in the blood of countless brown people

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instead of taking no for an answer

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refused to acknowledge Russia's right to

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defend itself forcing Russia to escalate

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now did America say and do those things

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some of it but like there's a lot of

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missing context and well it might be

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easier to go back to the beginning

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let's roll the tape back and start over

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by the time the summit convened this

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morning President Bush and Secretary of

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State Baker had shifted its spot so in a

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meeting Jim Baker does make an offer to

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not expand NATO Eastward but it's not

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clear if he meant within Germany or in

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Europe as a whole because before you can

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discuss it further President Bush tells

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him to take the offer back but for a

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very convoluted set of reasons Gorbachev

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comes away believing that he has an

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implicit agreement that NATO won't

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expand why didn't Gorbachev push for an

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explicit agreement because he was

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desperate for cash but the Soviet

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president's biggest headache is surely

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the economy deteriorating by the day

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westerners who work in the Soviet Union

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say it's like living in a third world

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country Upper Volta with rockets is the

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way one put it Gorbachev was taking heat

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from all sides the leaders of the

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republics wanted more autonomy the

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people wanted an end to empty shelves

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and the hardliners in the KGB wanted

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Gorbachev to focus on holding together

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the Empire so Gorbachev to keep his head

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above water brought together a team of

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experts and economists and they created

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a plan for a relatively quick but

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orderly transition from an entirely

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state-run economy to a mixed market

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economy the plan was called the 500 Days

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program and it would keep the union

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together get food back on the shelves

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and provide enough autonomy for the

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republics to be happy without having to

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dissolve the Soviet Union but for it to

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work the Soviet Union was going to need

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a lot of Aid money so Gorbachev spent

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the first half of 1991 going around the

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West trying to sell the plant and the

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answer he got got back from the United

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States was

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maybe later well that's fine Gorbachev

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would just have to hold on for another

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year he was still getting money from the

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Germans and with that he could buy

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this is

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they first moved in at 4am the first

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sign of the coup d'etat that removed

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Mikhail Gorbachev from Power with tanks

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in Red Square the official word from the

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new government calling itself the

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National Emergency committee was that

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the architect of glasnost and

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perestroika was too ill to continue in

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office mihail Gorbachev is now on

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vacation he is very tired after these

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many years and he will need some time to

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get better

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the thousands still leningrad's Palace

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Square to demonstrate against the coup

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and cheer their Republic leader Boris

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Wilson supporters reacted with their

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bare hands building makeshift barricades

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with whatever piece of disused Machinery

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or brickwork was available

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speaking around the Russian Federation

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building people are defying the 11 P.M

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to 5 a.m curfew the people there say

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that they do not obey the laws of the

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military Hunter they obey only the laws

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of Russia and the decrees of Boris

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Yeltsin how does a ragtag crowd prepare

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to fight a division of Tanks they toss a

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few more bricks on their flimsy

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barricade pile up sticks and stones and

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post a few more slogans the Soviet Union

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has entered its second night under

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military rule after a day of growing

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Defiance and Rising fears of Bloodshed

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there has been now a report in from

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Reuters the British news agency the

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three people were shot dead outside the

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Russian Parliament by Soviet tank Crews

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military convoys were seen heading out

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of Moscow tank drivers confirmed the

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coup was ending two people manning the

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barricades here the first sign the coup

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was faltering lay in the fact there was

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no all-out attack on the Russian

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Federation headquarters the withdrawal

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came after dissension had developed in

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the military at least two crack Airborne

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divisions revealed they had thrown their

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allegiance to Yeltsin less than three

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days after being placed under house

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arrest by communist hardliners the

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Soviet president is to return to Moscow

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to retake the reins of government the

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fate of the coup plotters remains

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unknown the end of the rally the Russian

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flag was hoisted above the Parliament

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building in place of the hammer and

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civil tens of thousands of people

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outside Boris yeltsin's headquarters

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were elated in their view he had saved

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the day victoriously they waved the

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Russian flag and one speaker said the

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Black Knight of fear had become a new

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day of freedom

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[Music]

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feel free

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the attempted coup of August 1991 only

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lasted three days but that was more than

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enough to convince Ukraine that it

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couldn't wait for a compromise anymore

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it declared independence five days later

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but you already know the rest of

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Ukraine's story Russia on the other hand

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faced the prospect of a majority Muslim

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and Asian Soviet Union so Russia decided

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to quit the union too and refocus on

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rebuilding its economy under the

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guidance of its newly Sovereign

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president Boris Yeltsin it is indeed a

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great honor for me to address the

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Congress of the great land of Freedom as

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the first ever over one thousand years

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of history of Russia popularly elected

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president as a citizen of the great

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country which has made its choice in

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favor of Liberty and democracy but the

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now Russian reformers realized they

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faced a much darker Choice unlike the

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other republics the power ministries of

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the Russian State the KGB the Ministers

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of the heavy Industries and the military

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industrial complex were still still

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being run by people either involved with

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or at least sympathetic to the coup

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Yeltsin became convinced that if he

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wanted to Stave off another reactionary

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push he'd have to disband them and that

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the only way to get a market system in

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place was to do it all at once in order

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to make it a fey accompli before anyone

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could stop him even though this would

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mean privatizing property before

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actually having a way of protecting

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property rights or ending price controls

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without controlling the money supply or

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restructuring the economy without

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building a social safety net in other

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words their choice was between

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destroying the state or going back to

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the Brezhnev era so the reformers became

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revolutionaries and Russia's experiment

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in social democracy became an experiment

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in anarcho-capitalism with predictable

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results some prices have jumped even

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more than the three four or five times

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they'd expected this bottle was selling

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for eight times the price it could have

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been pulled for yesterday president

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Yeltsin emerged as the winner of a

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bloody power struggle with his opponents

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in Parliament and their allies on the

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streets outside the building bodies

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still lay where they fell

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there was still no official estimate of

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the number killed inside though the City

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Medical authorities said nearly 500 had

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been treated for injuries over the

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weekend Russia sent a force of more than

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40 thousand into the Republic of

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chechnya and heading towards the capital

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of grozny troops from Russia's interior

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Ministries scramble at the site of an

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approaching armored personnel carrier

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they don't know if it's one of theirs or

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one of the chechens as it passes they

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opened fire wildly still none the wiser

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who they're firing at steravoitova was

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gunned down in the hallway of her St

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Petersburg apartment in late November

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most Russians regard the killing of this

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pro-democracy Member of Parliament as a

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political murder and as evidence that

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their country's post-soviet reform era

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is ending for Russian people democracy

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is synonym of criminal Anarchy renovo

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democracy as working rule of the law

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mechanisms they don't know what it is

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anarchy Russians tried to withdraw their

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savings from tanks while the country's

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Financial system appeared to Teeter on

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the brink of collapse the government

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virtually defaulted on its debt and the

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ruble crashed in August and Russia has

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continued to pound villages with their

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heavy guns a tactics with Chechen say

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has caused numerous civilian casualties

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at times Russian soldiers have shut down

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the English Setia border and even shot

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the fleeing refugees Commandos stormed a

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school in southern Russia Today where

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militants held hundreds of hostages

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Russian news accounts said more than 200

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people were killed more than 701 many

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were children an inflation crisis a

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parliamentary crisis a street crime

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crisis an organized crime crisis an

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official corruption crisis and

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alcoholism crisis a banking crisis a

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sovereign debt crisis two Civil Wars and

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an islamist Insurgency all in the span

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of 10 years and the KGB hardliners who

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forced this outcome would spend the next

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30 Years blaming foreigners and use

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[Music]

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meanwhile in America today

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Asian raised in the shadows of the Cold

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War assumes new responsibilities in a

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world warmed by the sunshine of Freedom

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Bill Clinton takes office in 1993 with

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his zero years of foreign policy

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experience on a platform 100 focused on

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domestic issues he immediately faces a

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dilemma Russia is on fire and it looks

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like there's already a 50 50 chance it's

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a lost cause for the next 20 years

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unless you do something to protect the

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other countries of Eastern Europe they

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might get dragged down with it but if

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you make moves on those countries

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Russians would interpret it as

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aggression and you might accidentally

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push Russia into the abyss by trying to

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hedge your bets when being nice to

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Russia might move it closer to America

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and the foreign policy establishment in

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America seemed to be almost split 50 50

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on what to do next so why did America

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ultimately decide to take its Chances

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with antagonizing an incredibly unstable

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Russia that's where the agency of

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Eastern Europe comes in you will

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sometimes see people who supported NATO

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to expansion complained that the NATO

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expansion sob story ignores the fact

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that Eastern Europe wanted to join NATO

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saying America expanded NATO basically

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treats these countries as pawns rather

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than real people with real aspirations

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but that argument's wrong because even

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that argument understates Eastern

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Europe's agency

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countries like Poland didn't get into

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NATO by just begging until America took

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pity Poland blackmailed its way into

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nato in 1994 Bill Clinton's first plan

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for Eastern Europe was not to expand

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NATO but rather to create a NATO holding

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room called The partnership for peace

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this partnership will advance a process

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of evolution for NATO's formal

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enlargement it looks to the day when

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Naco will take on new members who assume

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the alliance's full responsibilities

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it will create a framework in which

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former Communist States and others not

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now members of NATO can participate with

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NATO members in joint military planning

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training exercises and other efforts in

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the pfp everyone in Europe could join at

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once with little Fanfare pfp would allow

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Eastern Europe and America's military to

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collaborate thus helping to facilitate

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their democratic transition and it also

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meant you could do all the prep work for

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letting countries into NATO without

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announcing it and hurting Russia's

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feelings but for the three then four

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countries at the Western end of Eastern

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Europe Poland Czechoslovakia and Hungary

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this was not good enough they wanted a

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security guarantee they wanted NATO's

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Article 5 an attack on one is an attack

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on all and no one wanted it more than

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Poland so the president of Poland

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invited Boris Yeltsin to a state dinner

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got him drunk and tricked him into

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signing a letter saying that Russia

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didn't mind to pull and joined NATO when

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that didn't work polish officials

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started implying that without Article 5

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protection Poland would have no choice

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but to defend itself by pursuing a

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nuclear weapons program and when that

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didn't work Eastern Europe moved on from

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the nuclear option and tried the real

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nuclear option today we're pleased to be

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introducing

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the NATO enlargement facilitation Act

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and we're honored to be joined by a true

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hero of the Cold War

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elect Valencia Poland and Hungary share

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our Western values our Western standards

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and there is no reason or excuse for the

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unending delay which the Clinton

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Administration has orchestrated in not

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implementing this much needed expansion

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of NATO for the future security of

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Europe and the United States we cannot

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use the excuse of a Russian election or

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real or perceived objections of any

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Russian leader to what is in the best

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interest of the people of Europe and the

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United States I am confident that a dole

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Administration will pursue this issue as

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a high priority they started coming to

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Washington and meeting with Republicans

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you have to understand it wasn't just

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the names like Lech valenza and blossov

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havl carried a lot of weight

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internationally there were also still

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huge Emigrant communities from these

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countries in the United States and most

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of them had settled in the swing states

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of the Midwest Valencia and Havel even

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implying they would campaign for the

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Republicans was terrifying a fear which

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only got worse after the Democrats were

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wiped out in the 1994 midterm elections

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so Clinton gave in while the partnership

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is not NATO membership neither is it a

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permanent holding room

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it changes the entire NATO dialogue so

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that now the question is no longer

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whether NATO will take on new members

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but when and how there were good good

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but wrong reasons to think that Russia

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would even with this provocation still

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tolerated and keep moving towards the

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West even possibly joining Nato one

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reason was China it was not exactly hard

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to predict that the main challenge in

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the decades to come to American hegemony

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was going to come from the rapidly

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growing nuclear power with four times

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America's population and the Chinese

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government wasn't as notoriously

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Mercurial so one outcome America was

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banking on was that Russia would realize

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it had more to fear from China than from

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America and look to America for

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protection I had one interesting comment

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our conversation was the gun office is

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repeated with Levin they talked about

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they don't want this NATO expansion they

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know it's not in their security interest

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and on and on and said well and if you

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do that we may have to look to China and

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I couldn't help using the local

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expression for my state by saying since

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I've gone off lots of luck in your

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senior year

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um you know uh good luck and tonight if

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that doesn't work dry ramp

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um and uh I'm serious I said that to

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them but from Russia's point of view

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Chinese unpredictability was a reason to

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never join NATO because joining NATO

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would put Russia on the front line of

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any chinese-american confrontation but

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Russia also constantly gave off mixed

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signals in addition to the permission

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letter Yeltsin gave to Poland Russia

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could never get its story straight as to

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what its objections to Nato expansion

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were sometimes they seem to want nato in

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its entirety to be replaced by a

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militarized osce sometimes yeltsin's

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officials would claim that actually they

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didn't mind if dato expanded but they

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were worried how nationalists and voters

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within the country would react but most

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often opponents of NATO expansion would

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complain that NATO expansion was

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humiliated and I'm not persuaded by the

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assurances that we hear that Russia has

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nothing to worry about yet the knob you

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may not humiliate a nation a people and

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think that it'll have no consequences

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and complaining about humiliation was

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proud probably the worst way to convince

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America not to expand NATO because from

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America's point of view humiliation is

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just an inevitable part of losing your

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Empire the Dutch had to be humiliated at

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Surabaya the British had to be

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humiliated at Suez the French had to be

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humiliated at Oren and America had to be

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humiliated in Saigon but they all got

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over it

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kind of losing your Empire is supposed

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to be humiliating you did a bad thing so

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Russia would get over it it was hoped

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the kremlin's public opposition to

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enlargement in my view is largely a

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question of a psychological problem they

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are undergoing now

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connected with the loss of Empire

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wounded pride and most importantly

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uncertainty about Russia's place in the

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world of the 21st century and were you

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in their spot you would be the same in

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my view and I would but this is where

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another important bit of context usually

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gets lost Clinton didn't just announce

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the expansion of NATO he went to Yeltsin

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and got Yeltsin to agree to let it

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happen because here's the thing about

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NATO expansion Russia was actually

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powerful enough to prevent it they had

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demonstrated that in 1992 when Russia

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ran the same playbook in Moldova that

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they would play in Ukraine 22 years

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later the president of Moldova today

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accused Russia of waging an undeclared

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war against his former Soviet Republic

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he said Russian members of a former

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Soviet Red Army stationed in Moldova

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were fighting alongside Slavic

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separatists against the moldovan

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government funding an ethnic separatist

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War dividing the country de facto but

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not De Jour and using the violence to

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arm twist Moldova into a green to never

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join NATO and even if they hadn't the

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Russians still had a lot of Leverage in

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the form of nuclear proliferation

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everyone understood this they just

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didn't like saying it so when Yeltsin

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started complaining that NATO expansion

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violated the unwritten agreement from

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the German reunification deal publicly

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the United States said there was no

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agreement and it didn't need Russia's

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permission while privately Clinton tried

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to offer concessions to Yeltsin in order

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to buy his cooperation so Clinton gave

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geltsin four and a half billion dollars

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in Aid a promise that nuclear weapons

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wouldn't be deployed into new member

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states an agreement that no major

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Conventional Weapons or permanent bases

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would be deployed in the new member

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states and most importantly an agreement

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not to announce any of this until the

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Autumn of 1996. why was that so

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important because Russia held its

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presidential elections in the summer of

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1996 and America held its presidential

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election in November of 1996. so the

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fall of 96 was the Goldilocks period

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where it could come soon enough to help

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Clinton politically but would do the

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least damage to Yeltsin politically

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today I want to State America's goal by

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1999 NATO's 50th anniversary and 10

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years after the fall of the Berlin Wall

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the first group of countries we invite

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to join should be full pledged members

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of NATO

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but why lie about it for one it served

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the political purposes of both countries

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for Clinton it allowed him to look tough

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for Republicans who were rapidly hostile

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to anything that looked like

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multilateralism and it kept America's

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options open in the future also

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acknowledging a Russian veto would be a

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de facto repudiation of the Helsinki

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final act the treaty saying European

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countries could choose their own

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alliances more importantly for Yeltsin

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it was political cover from the

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nationalists for taking the deal you see

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he wasn't trading away Poland for

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campaign cash he was being steamrolled

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by America against his best efforts and

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it worked for Yeltsin and Clinton but

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the relationship between Yeltsin and

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Clinton was somewhat special while they

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personally liked each other they

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couldn't really bridge the gap in trust

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between their respective countries and

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their attempts to bring America and

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Russia closer together both of them were

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constantly sabotaged by their

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legislatures and both were hounded by

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accusations that they were selling the

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country out to the other side and soon

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both would be replaced by decidedly more

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aggressive successors the people you

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liberate will witness The Honorable and

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decent Spirit of the American Military

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with George Bush there's less Nuance to

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add we spent a lot of time in our

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relationship trying to get rid of the

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Cold War

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uh it's over it ended he did

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unilaterally tear up the anti-ballistic

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missile treaty not even giving Congress

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let alone Russia much of a heads up he

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did invade Iraq and convince the world

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that America was too megalomaniacal to

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be trusted as World Police he did start

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building interceptors in Europe and last

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but not least he did push to get Ukraine

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and Georgia into a NATO membership

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action plan against the advice of France

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Germany and several of his own advisors

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and instead of offering to trade Rush of

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something for it he just did it out of

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the blue during Bucharest we must make

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clear that NATO welcomes the aspirations

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of Georgia

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and Ukraine for their membership in NATO

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and boy did Russia respond

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or that lasted only six days but which

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had a profound effect on a country and a

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region on the edge of Europe so case

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closed right the great NATO sob story is

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still basically right if America had

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just shown more restraint on NATO Russia

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wouldn't have invaded Ukraine and yeah

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the NATO sob story does I think explain

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if not justify the 2008 invasion of

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Georgia but we're talking about Ukraine

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not Georgia and six years had passed in

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between the two Wars and it's those six

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years in which the great NATO sob story

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goes from the sort of having a point to

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just Shameless lying because it was in

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2008 when the Great NATO sob story

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actually gained a lot of fans both

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inside and outside the foreign policy

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establishment and John mayersheimer's

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brand of realism influenced restraint

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gained a number of admirers and one of

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them was now the 44th President of the

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United States in a cold war in which

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Muslim majority countries were too often

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treated as proxies

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without regard to their own aspirations

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I've come here to Cairo to seek a new

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beginning

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once Barack Obama became president

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Russia was allowed back into the G8 a

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deal was made to move the interceptors

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out of Europe and move them to boats in

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the Black Sea and while the U.S never

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publicly renounced letting Ukraine and

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Georgia into NATO Obama also reiterated

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that to join countries needed

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territorial integrity and a referendum

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on joining Georgia didn't have full

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territorial integrity and in Ukraine a

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majority of the population was against

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entering NATO President Obama talked as

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if it would need a referendum it would

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need reforms before any new countries I

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mean for example George and Ukraine

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joined nature was this new policy was he

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saying something new here absolutely not

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that's been the requirement those are

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requirements for NATO membership since

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the NATO began and so we're not seeing

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anything new that was this is the way he

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did but to stated in the way he did with

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that audience what was he trying to do I

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I don't want to over interpret the

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ukrainians moved on elected janakovich

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and agreed to host a Russian military

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base on Crimea for the next 30 Years

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blocking itself out of NATO until the 21

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importance and this reproachment worked

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at First Russia agreed to a massive

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reduction in strategic nuclear arms

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agreed to let American troops travel

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through Russia to Afghanistan and put

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sanctions on Iran to pressure them into

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nuclear talks and then the maidan

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happened protesters here are fighting

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back

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attempting to defend themselves with

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fireworks motels cocktails and Russia

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went crazy killed thousands of innocent

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people and scapegoated America for it

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anyway and no one in America could see

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any compelling reason for why it

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happened that's why people like Barack

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Obama and Angela Merkel kept bending

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over backwards to offer Russia off-ramps

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it's not because they liked or respected

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Russians more than other Eastern

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Europeans it's just that they'd both

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more or less come to the conclusion that

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Vladimir Putin had simply made a mistake

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out of peak and could thus be lured back

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with the right encouragement

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but as we went over in part two not only

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did Putin refuse every off-ramp he kept

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escalating throughout 2014 despite

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already having a practical assurance

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that Ukraine couldn't join NATO and then

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even though America couldn't even be

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bothered to send Ukraine weapons Russia

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decided to escalate the Ukraine conflict

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further into a second Cold War by

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attacking the American elections in

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2016. a move that completely backfired

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and led to America sending Ukraine

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weapons

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this is Putin's Master tactical plan the

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people who made their name on The Great

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NATO sob story like John mayersheimer

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just kind of skipped this part now and

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that's why Washington hates these people

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it's not because he's telling them hard

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truths they don't want to hear it's

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because America did what he wanted for

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six years and when that didn't work

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instead of admitting fault he just

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furiously rewrote history to blame them

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so he could pretend he was still right

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and that type of careerist historical

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revisionism would be forgivable if there

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was nothing at stake but his reputation

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but there is substantially more at stake

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now there are many people say the

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Russians are going to go on a rampage

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they're going to try and re-establish

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the Soviet Union or greater Russia and

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so forth and so on uh that's not going

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to happen uh Putin is much too smart for

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that you remember what happened when the

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Russians invaded Afghanistan you

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remember what happened when we invaded

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Afghanistan you remember what happened

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when we and invaded Iraq remember what

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happened when the Israelis invaded

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Southern Lebanon you want to stay out of

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these places in fact if you really want

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to wreck Russia what you should do is

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encourage it to try and Conquer Ukraine

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Putin again is much too smart to do that

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so was NATO expansion a bad idea maybe

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probably yes yes it was at a time when

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America should have been paying special

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attention the stabilizing Russian

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democracy Bill Clinton corrupted that

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relationship in order to rush through a

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policy that didn't need to be rushed to

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satisfy a special interest voting block

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for an October surprise campaign stunt

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in an election that he would have won

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anyway and everyone in Washington just

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kind of crossed their fingers and hoped

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everything would work out because it was

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after all the end of history but does

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NATO's expansion justify Russia's war on

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Ukraine not in the moral sense just in a

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amoral geopolitic sense no you see the

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point of the NATO sob story isn't really

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geopolitics it's about making the case

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that America is especially evil and

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duplicitous and America is not

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especially duplicitous America is not

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anything because countries are not

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actually sentient balls with enduring

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personality traits there I ideas America

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can't have a duplicitous foreign policy

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it doesn't have a foreign policy at all

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presidents have foreign policies and

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there's less continuity between them

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than people would like to imagine for

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instance when Yeltsin first started

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complaining about how NATO expansion

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violated an agreement with James Baker

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there was no one in the state department

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who had worked for Bush on Russian

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issues anymore and the Clinton guys had

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barely been briefed by their

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predecessors so they had to spend a week

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just tracking down retired German and

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American officials to ask what Boris

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Yeltsin was talking about but the great

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NATO sob story isn't interesting because

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it's true or because it's false but

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because it illustrates The Perennial

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problem of foreign relations between

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democracies and autocracies autocracies

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tend to see the chaotic wheeling and

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dealing of democracies as malicious

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subterfuge and democracies tend to think

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their problems within autocracy will be

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solved by the next regime change and so

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hurt feelings are almost guaranteed in

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the russian-american relationship but

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hurt feel things are not the basis of a

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sound foreign policy even if Russia was

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right to feel entitled to a sphere of

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influence encompassing all the former

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Soviet Union attacking Ukraine wasn't

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going to reverse the baltic's entry into

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NATO and it didn't prevent Ukraine from

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joining NATO because Ukraine wasn't

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joining nato in the first place and even

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if it was Russia could have stopped a

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Crimea and also and I cannot believe

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this needs to be explained to [ __ ]

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geopolitics experts Russia has a nuclear

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deterrent they do not need land buffers

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at all but is it the 19th century are

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they worried about General Mannheim

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zombie army do they also need more

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crossbowmen for their star forts

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there's nothing realist about

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substituting resentment for actually

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making sure a war will make your country

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stronger did resentment play a role sure

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probably along with Putin's fear of his

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domestic opposition all the weird hyper

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nationalist philosophers and he probably

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really does believe this goofy spiritual

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thing about ukrainians and Russians

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being one people but even if you combine

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all that there's still a big missing

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piece and I think I have found that

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missing piece but it is a weird weird

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story like Thomas pension novel weird

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story Buckle it

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