Former NZ Athlete Lorraine Moller on protecting women's sports

The Platform NZ
21 Aug 202305:08

Summary

TLDRThe transcript discusses concerns over transgender athletes competing in women's sports, highlighting the potential loss of privacy and fairness. It features individuals like Riley Gaines and Caitlyn Jenner advocating for women's rights in sports. The conversation touches on the political implications of the issue in New Zealand, with the New Zealand First party and ACT party taking clear stances against men competing in women's sports, while other parties are seen as less decisive. The speaker urges political action to address the divisive issue, emphasizing the importance of maintaining fair competition and the integrity of women's sports.

Takeaways

  • 🚺 The speaker emphasizes the need for women to have private spaces, particularly in change rooms and restrooms, to ensure their comfort and safety.
  • πŸ‹οΈβ€β™€οΈ Instances are shared where girls have been uncomfortable or stopped participating in sports due to the presence of a transgender individual in their change rooms.
  • 🌐 The discussion suggests that this issue is being confronted in the United States and internationally, with some sports bodies beginning to reconsider their policies.
  • πŸ“ The script criticizes the practice of allowing individuals to compete in women's sports based solely on self-identification as male or female.
  • πŸ… It is argued that this approach undermines the progress women have made in sports over the past century and is fundamentally unfair.
  • πŸ₯‡ Examples are given, such as Laurel Hubbard, to illustrate the perceived unfairness of transgender women competing against cisgender women.
  • πŸ€” The speaker questions the ethics of transgender individuals competing in women's sports, suggesting it's narcissistic and indicative of moral corruption.
  • πŸ† Caitlyn Jenner, a gold medalist, is mentioned as someone who supports women's sports and believes men should not compete in women's categories.
  • πŸ—³οΈ The script makes a political statement, suggesting that the New Zealand First party is the only one addressing this issue, and encourages voting for them.
  • 🀝 The speaker wishes for more political parties to take a stand on this issue, recognizing its divisiveness and the strong feelings of the public.
  • πŸ“ˆ The discussion implies that there is a growing movement against the current approach to transgender participation in women's sports, as seen in the US.

Q & A

  • What is the main concern expressed in the transcript regarding women's sports?

    -The main concern is about the participation of transgender women in women's sports, which some believe undermines the fairness and equality that women have fought for in sports.

  • Why do some girls stop participating in sports when encountering a transgender woman in the change room?

    -They feel uncomfortable and unsafe, which leads to them not wanting to use the change room anymore, potentially ending their involvement in the sport.

  • What is the speaker's opinion on the current practice of self-identifying gender in sports?

    -The speaker believes it is wrong and unfair, as it disregards the progress women have made in achieving equality in sports over the past century.

  • How does the speaker feel about the situation of women being displaced in sports by transgender women?

    -The speaker finds it extremely unfair, as it goes against the ethos of sports and the well-earned achievements of women.

  • What does the speaker think about the moral aspect of men competing in women's sports?

    -The speaker is appalled by the moral corruption, viewing it as narcissistic and an exploitation of an unlevel playing field.

  • What is the speaker's view on Caitlyn Jenner's stance on men competing in women's sports?

    -The speaker agrees with Caitlyn Jenner, who believes that men should not compete in women's sports, as it would be unfair and could potentially break women's records.

  • What political stance does the speaker believe New Zealand First has taken on this issue?

    -The speaker believes that New Zealand First is supportive of women and has taken a clear and unambiguous stance against men competing in women's sports.

  • Why does the speaker encourage people to vote for New Zealand First on this issue?

    -The speaker encourages voting for New Zealand First because they were the only party at the time of the transcript that was supportive of women's rights in this context.

  • What is the speaker's opinion on other political parties' stance on the issue?

    -The speaker wishes that other parties would take a clear stand on the issue, as they believe it is divisive and that people's feelings on the matter are strong.

  • How does the speaker describe the situation in the United States regarding this issue?

    -The speaker suggests that in the United States, the issue is being confronted, with individuals like Riley Gaines standing up against the participation of transgender women in women's sports.

  • What does the speaker hope for regarding the stance of sports bodies internationally?

    -The speaker hopes that sports bodies internationally will take a stand and say 'enough is enough', implying a desire for a return to a more acceptable standard in sports regarding gender participation.

Outlines

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πŸ‹οΈβ€β™€οΈ Women's Sports and Privacy Concerns

The paragraph discusses the need for women to have private spaces, particularly in sports changing rooms. It highlights instances where the presence of a transgender individual has caused discomfort among female athletes, leading some to abandon their sports. The speaker expresses concern about the fairness and ethics of allowing individuals who are biologically male to compete in women's sports, arguing that it undermines the progress women have made in achieving equality in sports. The conversation also touches on the political aspect of this issue, with the speaker commending New Zealand First and ACT party for their stance against men competing in women's sports and encouraging other parties to take a clear position on the matter.

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πŸ—£οΈ Public Resistance to Unfair Sports Policies

This short paragraph emphasizes the growing public opposition to policies that allow biological males to compete in women's sports. The speaker suggests that this resistance will continue to build, as more people recognize the inherent unfairness of such policies. The paragraph concludes with a call for continued activism and political engagement to address this issue.

Mindmap

Keywords

πŸ’‘Private spaces

Private spaces refer to areas designated for personal use, free from the presence of others, often for the purpose of changing clothes, using the restroom, or engaging in other personal activities. In the video's context, it highlights the concern about women's discomfort when encountering men in spaces traditionally reserved for females, such as change rooms, which is a central theme of the discussion.

πŸ’‘Transgender

Transgender is a term used to describe individuals whose gender identity does not align with the sex they were assigned at birth. The script discusses the implications of transgender athletes in women's sports, emphasizing the perceived unfairness and the debate around their participation based on biological differences.

πŸ’‘Sport

Sport, in this context, refers to organized physical activities and competitions governed by a set of rules. The video's theme revolves around the fairness and ethics of transgender individuals participating in women's sports, questioning the integrity of the competitive environment.

πŸ’‘Equality

Equality, in the script, is used to denote the equal status, rights, and opportunities that women have fought to achieve in sports. The discussion points out that allowing individuals to self-identify their gender for sports participation could undermine the progress made towards gender equality in athletics.

πŸ’‘Unfair competition

Unfair competition refers to a situation where one party has an advantage over another, making the contest unjust. The video script uses this term to argue that transgender women competing in women's sports create an unlevel playing field due to potential physical advantages.

πŸ’‘Ethos of sport

The ethos of sport encompasses the values and principles that underpin athletic competition, such as fairness, respect, and the pursuit of excellence. The script suggests that allowing transgender women to compete in women's sports contradicts these values, as it may prioritize winning over fairness.

πŸ’‘Political stance

A political stance is a position taken by an individual, group, or political party on a particular issue. The video discusses how different political parties in New Zealand have varying stances on the issue of transgender athletes in women's sports, with some being more supportive of women's rights and others being more inclusive.

πŸ’‘New Zealand First

New Zealand First is a political party in New Zealand mentioned in the script as being supportive of women's rights in sports. The speaker encourages people to vote for this party due to its stance on the issue, highlighting the political dimension of the debate.

πŸ’‘ACT Party

The ACT Party, or the Association of Consumers and Taxpayers, is another political entity in New Zealand that is mentioned as having a clear stance against transgender athletes in women's sports. The script praises this party for taking a stand on the issue.

πŸ’‘Moral corruption

Moral corruption in the script refers to the perceived unethical behavior of allowing transgender individuals to compete in women's sports. The term is used to criticize those who support such policies, suggesting a lack of integrity in the decision-making process.

πŸ’‘Narcissism

Narcissism is the excessive interest in oneself, often associated with self-centeredness. In the context of the video, it is used to describe the motivation of transgender athletes who compete in women's sports, suggesting that they are driven by a desire for personal success at the expense of fairness.

Highlights

The importance of private spaces for women, especially in change rooms and toilets.

Instances where girls have been deterred from sports due to the presence of a man in the change room.

The impact on sports participation when girls feel uncomfortable sharing change rooms with individuals who are biologically male.

The confrontation of these issues in the United States and the stance taken by individuals like Riley Gaines.

International sports bodies beginning to address the issue of fairness in sports regarding transgender participation.

The argument that checking a box for gender should not be the sole criterion for participation in women's sports.

The historical fight for women's equality in sports and how current policies may derail these achievements.

The perceived unfairness when a transgender woman, like Laurel Hubbard, competes against cisgender women.

The broader ethos of sports and how it is being compromised by allowing individuals to compete based on self-identification.

Caitlyn Jenner's stance on men competing in women's sports and the potential impact on women's records.

The moral corruption and narcissism involved in competing on an unlevel playing field.

The political landscape in New Zealand regarding this issue, with specific parties taking a clear stand.

The call for other political parties to address the divisive nature of the issue and to take a stand.

The potential for increased public resistance to the current policies, as seen in the United States.

The hope for a return to an 'acceptable normal' in the context of sports and gender identity.

The encouragement for people to vote for parties that support women's rights in sports.

Transcripts

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I think women need to have their private

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spaces and I especially think well I

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know an example of a few examples of

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girls who have gone into the change room

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and uh there's been a man there and they

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they don't want to

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go under the change room anymore so you

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know that's it that's it for the sport

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the girls that don't want to go and

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there's nothing they can do about it I

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don't think any parent would want their

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girl to be in a change room or a toilet

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with a full grown male yeah

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um Lorraine one gets the feeling in the

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United States that it is confronting

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these issues

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and that a woman like us at Riley Gaines

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are standing up and saying no and in

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fact if we look internationally a number

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of sports bodies

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are starting to say enough's enough

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let's stop being so silly about this is

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it your feeling

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that we're getting back towards some

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sort of acceptable normal on this issue

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in sport

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I would hope so I would hope so

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um I think

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for sports to say all you have to do is

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check a box male or female and then you

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get to compete in it is completely

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um wrong it derails everything that we

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woman fought for in the last century to

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get our equality in sports and I think

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it's really unfair and I I think people

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know it's wrong when they're watching

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say Laurel Hubbard standing on the

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podium with two other women and uh I

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mean and displacing another woman and

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her well-earned place on a team

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um that's to me it's really unfair and

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it goes against the ethos of sport

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because sport is not about winning it's

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it is certainly there's a part of it but

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a man who wants to come in and win is

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wanting to be a a big fish I gotta say I

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the what appalls me most about the

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situation theater care

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is the moral Corruption of the people

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who do it the men who do it how what

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satisfaction can there be

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in winning on an unlevel playing field

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it is just so narcissistic to be honest

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and in my opinion Lorraine

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yes well you know Sean we've got

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um Caitlyn Jenner who was Bruce Jenner

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is the gold medalist the Catholic he

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says you know he knows he's he sticks up

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for the woman he says they should not

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men should not compete in women's sports

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yeah because he could have declared

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himself a woman any day and he would

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have blown yeah that's right every

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woman's record as we're seeing you know

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um

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so there shouldn't be a standard for

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woman that's set by a man yeah

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that's not fair yeah Lorraine you've

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gone one step further and I think you're

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a person with a pretty good perspective

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particularly on the sport issue of this

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this has now been raised in the last two

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or three weeks as an election issue and

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Winston Peters has come out and and been

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absolutely unambiguous about that the

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only person to to match in in their

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unambiguity is um his good friend David

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Seymour leader of the ACT party National

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don't want a bar of it or luxon doesn't

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want to Bar of it because it's

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politically risky labor I would say uh

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in the other Camp they promote this sort

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of thing and the greens of course is

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transgender strange radical as you can

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you can possibly get you have added to

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your your statements about this a

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political statement and that is that you

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believe New Zealand first is the only

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party that can deliver

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in the space on this issue and you're

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encouraging people to vote for them are

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you a long time New Zealand supporter

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how did this come about no

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no and I I'm not really uh I don't

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follow politics that much I never have

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I've never been that interested in

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politics uh the only reason that I made

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that statement was that at the time the

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um uh the New Zealand first party was

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coming out and supportive woman and I

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would like that to be a political issue

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and I hope the other parties will come

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to the table

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they've taken very much the same

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position Lorraine would you also say

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good on Act

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absolutely and I wish the other parties

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would come out and say we're going to

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make a stand on this

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because I don't think they'd realize how

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uh divisive this issue is and how people

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really feel and uh if the US's any

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indication I think you're going to see

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more and more people standing up and

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rallying again against it because it's

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not right

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