Why Are Redstoners Mad?

Summary

The video script discusses Mojang's controversial updates in a Minecraft snapshot, focusing on Redstone and Minecart changes. Redstone's new randomness and removal of locational mechanics have upset the community, potentially breaking many existing contraptions. The script praises the new Redstone torch texture but criticizes the reduction of block updates, which affects the functionality of various Redstone components. Meanwhile, Minecarts have been reworked with a new physics system, introducing exciting features like arching and high-speed motion, but also causing issues with stacking and rail alignment, impacting storage technologies. The script calls for Mojang to listen to community feedback to avoid repeating past mistakes.

Takeaways

• 🔧 Mojang's snapshot update aimed to address the Redstone community's concerns but ended up causing frustration instead.
• 🔄 The Redstone torch received a texture change that was well-received by the community.
• 🎰 Mojang introduced randomness to Redstone to eliminate locational and directional behavior, which was met with mixed reactions.
• 🔄 The update attempts to standardize Redstone behavior, which could potentially break existing contraptions and contraptions that rely on locational Redstone.
• 🚂 Minecarts underwent a significant rework, including changes to their physics and a new game rule for maximum speed.
• 🔄 The introduction of randomness in Minecart behavior could affect builds that were previously stable and consistent.
• 🛠 The removal of Minecart stacking and changes to how they align with rails may break existing storage technology and other contraptions.
• 🛑 Redstone Dust updates were reduced, affecting the functionality of many Redstone contraptions that rely on block updates for powering components.
• 🔌 The change in Redstone Dust updates could potentially eliminate Quick Connect (QC) properties from Pistons, Droppers, and Dispensers.
• 👷‍♂️ The community's response to the changes has been varied, with some suggesting that Mojang should listen to the feedback of experienced Redstone players.
• 📢 A call to action for Mojang to consider the impact of their changes on the Redstone community and to avoid repeating past mistakes with updates.

Q & A

What was Mojang's original intention for the snapshot update?

Mojang originally intended the snapshot update to focus on the bundle feature, but it ended up causing dissatisfaction among the Redstone community.

What changes did Mojang make to the Redstone torch in the snapshot?

Mojang updated the texture of the Redstone torch, which the speaker in the script found to be an improvement over the old texture.

How did Mojang attempt to address the issues of locational and directional Redstone behavior?

Mojang introduced randomness to Redstone behavior, allowing for certain actions to be random when activated from different levers, in an attempt to eliminate the need for locational and directional dependencies.

What is the impact of the new randomness in Redstone on builds that were previously locational?

The new randomness could potentially break builds that relied on locational Redstone behavior, as they may now behave inconsistently or not at all.

What is the controversy surrounding the Minecart changes in the snapshot?

The controversy lies in the removal of Minecart stacking and changes to how Minecarts snap to rails and align, which could break existing mechanisms and storage technologies.

What is the default and maximum speed setting for Minecarts as introduced in the snapshot?

The default Minecart speed is set to 8 blocks per second, with a maximum speed of 1000 blocks per second.

Why are Redstone experts concerned about the changes to Redstone Dust updates in the snapshot?

The changes reduce the number of block updates Redstone Dust provides, which could break many Redstone contraptions that rely on these updates for functionality.

What is the role of the copper bulb in the new Redstone system?

The copper bulb acts as a transparent updater, which can be used in some situations to replace setups that previously relied on slabs or other transparent blocks for updates.

What are the common responses from Mojang and the community regarding the Redstone changes?

The common responses include telling Redstone experts to fix their contraptions, claiming the changes make Redstone easier and more accessible, and asserting that Mojang knows better.

What is the speaker's call to action for Mojang regarding the Redstone feedback?

The speaker urges Mojang to listen to the feedback from the Redstone community, learn from past experiences with the copper bulb, and avoid repeating history with disappointment.

Outlines

00:00

🔥 Redstone and Minecart Changes in Minecraft Snapshot

The video discusses Mojang's attempt to introduce changes in the Minecraft snapshot, focusing on Redstone and Minecart mechanics. Mojang aimed to simplify Redstone by adding randomness to Pistons' behavior, which has upset the Redstone community. The video highlights the new texture of the Redstone torch, which is appreciated. It also covers the changes in Pistons' behavior, where they now exhibit randomness when activated, potentially breaking many existing Redstone contraptions. The Minecart changes are also significant, with a new game rule 'Minecart Max Speed' and a visual rework that allows Minecarts to arch and fly. However, the removal of Minecart stacking and changes in how they align with rails could break existing storage technologies.

05:00

🚂 Impact of Minecart and Redstone Dust Updates

This section delves deeper into the repercussions of the changes made to Minecarts and Redstone Dust. The video explains how the Minecart stacking feature's removal will impact storage technologies that rely on stacked Minecart chests and hoppers. It also discusses the new alignment of Minecarts with rails, which makes certain Redstone mechanisms, like piston bolts, harder to achieve. The video further explores the changes to Redstone Dust, which no longer provides as many block updates, leading to the potential failure of many Redstone contraptions, including piston doors and slab towers. The copper bulb is introduced as a potential solution, but it's not a universal fix, and its reliance on power to provide updates could lead to further complications.

10:01

📢 Community Feedback and Mojang's Response

The final paragraph addresses the community's response to the changes and Mojang's stance. It outlines three common responses: telling Redstone enthusiasts to 'fix their stuff,' suggesting that the changes make Redstone easier and more accessible, and the belief that Mojang knows best. The video argues against these responses, emphasizing the importance of feedback from the Redstone community and the need for Mojang to listen. It calls for Mojang to avoid repeating past mistakes, like with the copper bulb, and to consider the impact of these changes on Redstone contraptions. The video ends with a recommendation to watch Inspector Talon's video for a more in-depth analysis of the Minecart changes and to pay attention to the feedback from the community.

Keywords

💡Mojang

Mojang is the video game developer and publisher known for creating Minecraft, the game that the video script is discussing. The company's decisions and updates to the game are central to the video's theme, as they have made changes that have affected the gameplay, particularly the Redstone community.

💡Snapshot

In the context of Minecraft, a snapshot refers to a pre-release version of the game that includes new features or changes for testing purposes. The video discusses Mojang's snapshot updates, which have introduced controversial changes to the game mechanics, especially concerning Redstone.

💡Redstone Community

The Redstone Community consists of players who are particularly interested in the use of Redstone, a key resource in Minecraft for creating complex contraptions and circuits. The video highlights the community's reaction to changes in Redstone mechanics, which have upset many players.

💡Redstone

Redstone is a resource in Minecraft used to create electrical circuits and mechanisms. It is a central topic in the video, as changes to its behavior have significant implications for the game's mechanics and the Redstone community's creations.

💡Minecart

Minecarts in Minecraft are used for transportation and are affected by the game's physics. The video discusses a major rework of Minecarts, including changes to their speed and behavior, which has both excited and concerned players.

💡QC (Quasi-Connectivity)

Quasi-Connectivity is a property in Redstone circuits that allows components to be powered indirectly. The video explains how recent changes have affected QC, impacting the flexibility and functionality of Redstone contraptions.

💡Piston

Pistons in Minecraft are mechanical components that can move blocks and are powered by Redstone. The video script discusses how changes to Redstone affect Pistons, particularly in relation to QC and the new randomness in their behavior.

💡Randomness

The introduction of randomness in the video refers to the new behavior of Redstone and Minecarts, where their actions are no longer predictable based on their location or direction. This randomness has caused issues for players who rely on precise Redstone mechanics.

💡Block Update

A block update in Minecraft is a change in state or position of a block that can affect nearby Redstone components. The video explains how the reduction in block updates from Redstone Dust has limited the functionality of certain Redstone contraptions.

💡Copper Bulb

The Copper Bulb is a new addition to Minecraft that acts as a transparent block and updater for Redstone circuits. The video discusses how the Copper Bulb can be used to replace some functionalities that were previously done with slabs in Redstone contraptions.

💡Piston Door

A Piston Door in Minecraft is a type of door mechanism created using Pistons. The video script mentions that changes to Redstone have broken many Piston Door contraptions, illustrating the impact of the updates on player creations.

💡Feedback

Feedback in the context of the video refers to the responses and suggestions from the Minecraft community regarding the game updates. The video calls for Mojang to listen to this feedback to improve the game and avoid disappointing the players.

Highlights

Mojang's snapshot update focused on Redstone and Minecart changes, causing controversy within the Redstone community.

Redstone torch received a texture change, which was well-received as an improvement over the old texture.

Mojang attempted to eliminate locational and directional aspects of Redstone by introducing randomness.

The change to Redstone's behavior introduces unpredictability in builds, affecting both space and time dimensions.

Fix for one of Minecraft's oldest problems where Pistons would sometimes not retract properly.

Theoretical impact of randomness changes on builds that were previously locational and had 'bad wiring'.

Minecarts received a significant rework, including new behaviors such as arching and flying.

Introduction of a new game rule 'Minecart Max Speed' allowing for customization of Minecart speed up to 1000 blocks per second.

Minecart stacking and snapping to rails have been altered, potentially breaking many existing contraptions and storage technologies.

Minecart alignment to rails has been changed, making certain mechanisms like piston bolts more difficult to achieve.

Bugs with Minecarts, such as being flung into the air when placed on powder snow, indicate the new system needs refinement.

Copper bulbs can be used as transparent updaters in some cases, offering a partial solution to the Redstone Dust update issue.

The removal of block updates from Redstone Dust affects a wide range of contraptions, including piston doors and slab towers.

The community's response to the changes has been mixed, with some suggesting that Mojang does not understand the implications of their updates.

Content creators play a significant role in bringing new redstoners into the community, rather than component changes from Mojang.

A call to action for Mojang to listen to the feedback from the Redstone community and avoid repeating past mistakes with updates.

Inspector Talon's video is recommended for a more in-depth look at Minecart changes and community feedback.

Transcripts

so Mojang really wanted the snapshot to

be about the bundle uh but a too bad

they pissed off the entire Redstone

Community

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instead lots of things have changed the

change log is very long and it covers

things like Redstone changes Minecart

changes baby animals and all a lot of

stuff but I only care about the Redstone

changes and the mine cart changes and

I've organized them from least bad to

most bad so let's start with the least

bad redstone torch has got a texture

change uh I like it it it looks very

nice I think this is just way better

than the old texture and yeah not much

else to say good job good new texture

very cool and now we have the first big

change which is Mojang's attempt to kind

of get rid of locational and

directionality by adding some Randomness

so as you can see we have two Pistons

facing towards each other if I hit the

left lever this left piston will always

be the one that fires if I hit the right

lever the right piston will always fire

if I hit the middle then it will be

random you see before this Redstone

behaved in two pretty weird and Niche

ways it was both directional and

locational so here are kind of two basic

examples of it if I hit this lever over

here as you can see all the green

Pistons extend but all the red Pistons

kind of get stuck in place but it is

consistent the entire time despite both

of these being activated at the same

time so yeah this is directionality

which means depending on the direction

that the Redstone is facing it will

behave in a different way locational is

a little bit different and a little bit

more complicated so as you can see we

have a bunch of the same circuit even

facing the same direction but some of

them don't work like this red one and

some of them do work like this green one

or this green one or this broken red one

again and this green one that does work

see it's kind of like picking between

two evils your Redstone can either be

random across space or it can be random

across time well let's talk about this

Randomness across time because you can

somewhat control it so here we have

another example with two pistons and

some honey blocks if I flick this lever

this piston will be the one that extends

like this and if I flick this lever this

one will be the one that extends because

it's in line with that lever and if I

activate it from the top then it's

random again but for some reason if you

put the lever here then only this one

activates which it should be both be

random right because it's equidistant

from the lever I don't know again we

have another example we have four

Pistons this time and then under these

blocks we have repeaters pointing into

the Redstone Dust so you know from the

repeaters it kind of makes sense

depending on what lever you flick it

will be that corresponding piston even

though it's the same piece of redstone

being activated but if we activate it

from the corners again like this with

these levers then for some reason these

Pistons take priority the ones facing

north and south and not these east and

west Pistons I don't know it's a little

bit weird but their attempt to fix

locational does fix one of Minecraft's

like oldest problems before if you had a

line of Pistons like this with a line of

redstone dust sometimes when you

deactivate it there would be like one or

two that would stick out but now they

will all extend and retract very nicely

okay so what do all these Randomness

changes really mean theoretically they

should only affect builds that were

already locational which in my opinion

kind of had bad wiring to begin with if

you were locational but again it depends

would you rather have your Contraption

be random across space or random across

time let's say you're building a piston

door and you build it once in the

correct location let's just say it's

locational but it works 100% of the time

if you build it in a separate location

it doesn't work you instantly know that

it's locational but by introducing some

Randomness there's a little bit of like

unknown variables when debugging next up

we have Minecarts you've probably seen

these all over Twitter Minecarts got a

huge rework I mean look at this they

Arch they fly look at that and there's

also a new game rule which is Minecart

Max Speed by default it is set to 8

blocks a second and the maximum is 1,000

blocks a second I have it set to 1,000

cuz it's way more fun that way and

you've probably seen these all over the

internet where you have mine carts

spinning in a circle like this and then

you switch a rail onto a ramp and then

they get yeed into the sky it it's

beautiful it truly is beautiful this

stuff this stuff is cool I think this

stuff is pretty neat what's a little bit

more controversial though is the stuff

they've changed with Minecart stacking

and the way Minecarts snap to rails and

get aligned so for example before you

used to be able to place a bunch of mine

carts onto one single rail as you can

see it looks like I'm placing a bunch of

mine carts on this rail uh but it's only

one same with dispensers this is filled

with mine carts you can dispense your

first mine cart onto the rail but if you

dispense more then they just spit out

into the ground not good mine cart

stacking being removed will break a lot

of stuff especially recent storage Tech

stuff which uses a lot of stacked

Minecart chests and Hoppers and that

kind of stuff the next thing that was

changed was the way mine carts kind of

align themselves to rails if you had

kind of a curved rail set up like this

and you put a mine cart on it before it

would kind of be on a diagonal and would

clip between these two blocks diagonally

and that would allow things like piston

bolts to be possible but now they kind

of snap to the center of the block so if

you try to do an alignment setup like

this where you have a fence gate this

mine cart would go up to the fence gate

but as you can see it kind of moved

backwards so it's a lot harder to align

things the way you want which is really

bad for certain things and also as of

right now they're really buggy if I just

place a mine cart going into some

powdered snow like this then I will be

flung hundreds of blocks into the air I

don't know why it's really fun but

obviously this is not intended Behavior

so my take on the new mine cart changes

I'm not the big biggest cart Stone kind

of guy but I know someone who is

inspector Talon he also made a video

covering all the cart changes way more

in depth and also covered the good

things the bad things and just has way

more suggestions for improvements so I

highly suggest you check out that video

but yeah it's just a completely new

system that needs a little bit of tweaks

and it might be good it might not and

now we've come to the last thing the red

thing the thing that all the red Stoners

are pissed off about you would think it

would be the random dust you know dust

being random instead of locational but

this this is probably the worst thing in

the snapshot and to really understand

why this is such a detrimental change we

kind of need to go over how QC works so

QC is a property that applies to Pistons

sticky pistons droppers and dispensers

where if you power them diagonally or

one block above like this and then you

give them a block update they will power

and then if you unpower it like this and

then give it a block update it will deow

now the biggest reason why QC is super

useful is not because it detects block

updates but because it lets you power

components from places that you

otherwise shouldn't which makes Redstone

a lot more flexible for example this

repeater is qcing this piston but also

giving it an update same with this

comparator same with this torch and same

with these

observers and here are the examples that

you might see famously in like a bunch

of piston doors Pistons updating other

Pistons like this same with note blocks

and even newer stuff like the copper

bulb Redstone Dust used to be on that

list but now Redstone Dust does not give

as many block updates as it used to

which means setup like this won't power

this piston anymore or setups like this

or setups like this or setups like this

which is a big thing because a ton of

piston doors and a lot of other

Contraptions have setups where you have

a transparent block going up to a piston

with redstone going into it or a

transparent block on top of a piston

with redstone running on top of it in

fact here's an example of one of my 4x4s

that will probably break because of this

change or even this selector array with

all these droppers being powered by

slabs again this will also break or if

you want an even more common example

slab Towers this this just doesn't work

anymore because these Pistons are being

updated by the Redstone Dust you kind of

need to force an updater in between

these Pistons so now these Pistons will

extend but not this one because there's

no block updates it's really weird and

again it's even weirder they just don't

give enough updates to realize that they

been powered so you can just like turn

off Redstone Dust like this which is

really cursed now there is a solution

for some of these edge cases but not all

of them which is the copper bulb if you

don't know the copper bulb is actually a

transparent block as you can see if I

place a repeater going into this copper

bulb and flick it this Redstone Dust

actually won't get powered nor will that

piston because it's a transparent block

but you saw that this little middle bit

turns red that actually gives a block

update so that means it's a transparent

updater which you could use to replace

things like basic slab Towers like this

so it kind of works but again it doesn't

work for everything cuz sometimes you

want an immovable transparent block like

a hopper or sometimes you just want to

run an observer line underneath your

Redstone like this so for example we

have an observer line that both powers

that piston like that but can also serve

as a transparent block that powers this

piston but yeah that just doesn't work

anymore and the other problem with

copper bulbs is since it relies on them

being powered to actually give an update

if you have a neighboring Redstone line

that's just a little bit too close to

this and let's say Powers this copper

bulb right here well now not all of your

Pistons will actually extend properly

because this copper bulb no longer gives

an update when this Redstone line gets

activated if they apply this logic where

they get rid of unnecessary updates from

Redstone components then this repeater

setup won't work or this comparator

setup or this torch setup or this

Observer setup which I'm missing oh my

God this Observer setup or this Observer

setup or if they're going to go really

hardcore they might get rid of these

honestly I don't think these three

they'll get rid of these are probably

very safe but this this could get

patched and this is a massive problem if

it does because so many redstone

contraptions have setups like this that

power components see the thing you need

to know about QC is that getting rid of

QC outright is not really the only way

you can get rid of QC if you get rid of

all the Redstone components giving block

updates that essentially gets rid of QC

because that is the part that gets used

the most now this is editor crafty

masterman kind of interjecting I'm not

saying Mojang will do this anytime soon

or at all I'm just saying that if they

try to follow the same logic as Redstone

does to all the other components then

that will be very bad so what is the

response from Mojang and the rest of the

Minecraft Community B well it's kind of

been one of three things or maybe they

just say all three of these things the

first first thing is just fix your stuff

which is a crazy thing to say because a

lot of stuff just isn't possible anymore

especially with this last dust change

this last dust change I need to

reiterate is way more of a problem than

all these other things combined but just

telling a redster to fix your stuff is

kind of being ignorant at the larger

problem at hand the second response I've

seen is but it makes Redstone easier

more people will do it now which is said

by every casual every single time Mojang

makes an to Redstone if you guys

remember the skull sensor A lot of

people also said that now oh my God this

makes Wireless Redstone so easy this is

going to bring so many new redstoners to

Redstone it in fact did not bring so

many new redstoners to Redstone the

thing that brings new redstoners to

Redstone is content creators there's

literal proof of that if you've seen

mbat Wings logical Redstone series just

because he made that and taught people

red stone a lot of people that otherwise

would have never done red stone have

done red stone like Rec or Brey it's

creators it's redstoners that teach

other redstoners that bring new

redstoners into Redstone not random

component changes from Mojang and the

last response that I've seen floating

around Twitter and Reddit and discords

and everything is Mojang knows better

I'm going to keep this pretty short and

blunt they don't they don't know better

and that's why feedback for things like

this is so important so this is kind of

like a call to action to I guess anyone

who works at Mojang that may be watching

this listen to the feedback that

redstoners have this time let's not

repeat history with the copper bulb and

just end with utter disappointment Watch

Inspector Talon's video on all those

Minecart changes pay attention to all

those piston door people that have been

posting videos about all of their broken

doors because of the lack of redstone

dust updates just listen just like the

chronically Redstone people do know a

little more about Redstone cuz cuz

that's like all we do you