HOW TO SKI TREES | Find your flow

Carv - Digital Ski Coach
9 Dec 202215:56

Summary

TLDRThis video provides tips for gaining confidence and improving skills for skiing in trees and off piste terrain. It recommends preparing physically and mentally before heading into trees, including warming up muscles to respond quickly, removing poles, and lowering goggles for better vision. Tactics are offered such as analyzing terrain zones to find less dense tree areas first, taking the path of least resistance, pausing frequently to reassess conditions, and leveraging moguls for easier turns. Drills to practice rapid stopping and carved rounded turns are also described to control speed, improve timing and line choice through trees. The goal is to smoothly pick lines down the mountain for greater enjoyment of untracked snow.

Takeaways

  • 😊 The video provides tips for gaining confidence skiing through trees off the groomed trails
  • ⛷️ Assess your parallel turning abilities before skiing trees to manage risk
  • ❄️ Remove ski pole straps and pull goggles down to prepare for skiing trees
  • 🌲 Look for more open areas first when choosing lines to ski through trees
  • 😮 Use quick hockey stops to practice rapidly stopping in front of obstacles
  • 🌳 Focus on the gaps between trees, not the trees themselves
  • 🚨 Pause every 5-10 turns when first skiing trees to take in all the variables
  • ↕️ Utilize mogul tops in trees for easier tight turns with less ski tip resistance
  • 🤸‍♂️ Practice rounded S-shaped turns using the snowmobile track corridor drill
  • 🌲 With practice, tree skiing can become effortless, playful and enjoyable

Q & A

  • What are some things Kevin recommends checking before heading into the trees?

    -Kevin recommends taking off pole straps or clips so your poles don't get caught on branches. He also suggests putting goggles down to protect your eyes from low hanging branches and blown snow.

  • Why does Kevin recommend skiing with a partner when venturing into the trees?

    -Skiing with a partner in the trees adds an element of safety. Even if you get separated, you have a way to communicate via whistle or yelling to ensure your partner is okay.

  • What is the purpose of the fast turn drill Kevin demonstrates?

    -The fast turn drill is meant to warm up your muscles so they can respond quickly to make decisions and turns while skiing in the trees where risk is higher.

  • What is the purpose of practicing hockey stops outside the trees first?

    -Practicing hockey stops on the groomed slopes allows you to get comfortable with the rapid leg movements needed to stop suddenly. This translates to being able to stop quickly to avoid obstacles in the trees.

  • What tactic does Kevin recommend for choosing lines through the trees?

    -Kevin recommends zooming out and analyzing zones first to identify the more open areas to start. Then he progresses to tighter areas slowly as comfort level permits.

  • Why does Kevin suggest only skiing 5-10 turns before stopping when first venturing into the trees?

    -Stopping frequently when first skiing trees allows you to take in all the variables - changing terrain, snow conditions, etc. It prevents you from getting overwhelmed.

  • What features should you look for when trying to improve flow in bumpy sections?

    -Seek out moguls and ride on the tops where there is less resistance to turn skis. This allows quicker redirection.

  • How do you know when you have mastered skiing through trees?

    -You will no longer be thinking consciously about it and instead effortlessly picking lines and making decisions as you happily ski through.

  • What is the purpose of the corridor drill Kevin demonstrates?

    -The corridor drill with the tracked out area helps shorten turns and dial in timing/rhythm which is vital when navigating tightly spaced trees.

  • What does Kevin recommend if you struggle with the corridor drill?

    -If struggling with the rounded turn shape, return to the groomed run to practice before trying the trees again.

Outlines

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😊 Introducing skiing in trees tips

The instructor introduces himself and explains what he loves about skiing in trees - the freedom, ability to pick your path and flow through the terrain. He outlines prerequisites like being able to make confident parallel turns on groomers and assessing if you're ready before heading into trees where the risk is higher.

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❄️ Practicing rapid movements with hockey stops

The instructor explains the importance of warming up so muscles respond quickly when needed in trees. He demonstrates practicing hockey stops on groomers first, emphasizing turning legs rapidly to come to a complete stop, then trying it in ungroomed snow to mimic stopping for trees/obstacles.

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🗺️ Tactics to improve line choice

The instructor shares tactics to choose better lines when skiing trees - doing a zone analysis to identify more open areas first, chunking the run into 5-10 turn sections to process all the variables, using moguls/bumps to aid quick pivoting and looking for windows to sneak through gaps between trees.

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🌲 Mastering rounded turn technique

The instructor explains how advanced skiers make tree skiing look easy by focusing on rounded s-shaped turns. He demonstrates the corridor drill - planting poles in a middle track and getting skis to the outside tracks to create shorter, smoother turns - useful when taking this technique back into the trees.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡trees

Trees refer to skiing off-trail through wooded areas with trees, as opposed to groomed ski runs. Skiing trees requires more advanced skills to navigate the uneven terrain and avoid obstacles like trees and stumps. The video focuses on building confidence and skills for skiing trees safely and smoothly.

💡line

Line refers to the path or route a skier takes down the hill when skiing trees. Choosing a good line through the trees is important for safety and optimizing the descent. The video talks about analyzing terrain and gaps between trees to pick the best line.

💡flow

Flow refers to smoothly linking turns together when skiing trees. The goal is to pick lines that allow you to make rounded turns in rhythm without stopping. Achieving flow in trees requires practice in assessing terrain and developing skills like rounded turn shapes.

💡round

Round refers to the shape of turns when skiing trees. Rounded, S-shaped turns allow quicker changes of direction to maneuver through trees. The corridor drill in the video practices rounded turns between imagined lines.

💡stop

Being able to stop quickly is an important skill when skiing trees to avoid obstacles. The video demonstrates hockey stops to practice rapidly turning the legs to come to a complete stop.

💡risk

Skiing trees has higher risk than groomed runs since trees and uneven terrain don't move if hit. Tips in the video like removing pole straps and chunking the run reduce risk in trees.

💡open

Open refers to gladed areas in the trees with wider spaces between trees. The video advises starting in more open sections of trees to build confidence before progressing to tighter sections.

💡untracked

Untracked means snow that hasn't been skied before. The video notes untracked snow in trees as a benefit since it's often lighter and better quality than heavy tracked snow.

💡pitch

Pitch refers to the steepness of the terrain. The video mentions assessing pitch when analyzing tree zones to find an appropriately challenging line.

💡gaps

Gaps refer to the spaces between trees that create a path or line to ski. The video emphasizes looking for gaps to ski rather than focusing on the trees themselves.

Highlights

Discuss tips to manage risk before skiing trees like removing pole straps and putting goggles down

Emphasize importance of warming up muscles to respond quickly in trees

Demonstrate hockey stop drill to practice rapid leg movements for stopping

Choose more open tree areas first when new to build comfort and experience

Ski trees in short segments of 5-10 turns to process information and conditions

Look for moguls on top to make quick redirection turns in trees

Aim to ski the gaps between trees, not the trees themselves

Use corridor drill with pole plants and ski tracks to create rounded turns

Check turn shape metric in app to monitor progress on rounded turns

Allow pressure to build in turns instead of twisting skis

Spend time practicing on grooms then applying in trees

Discussed minimizing risk factors before entering trees

Practiced rapid movement drills to react in trees

Focused on line choice and visibility when new to trees

Worked on rounded turn technique through corridor drill

Transcripts

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well if you don't have that much

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confidence in the trees or you're not

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really sure what to do in there this is

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going to help you

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hi everyone I'm Kevin Jordan psia

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national team member and we're here in

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beautiful sunny Aspen Colorado

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hey so today we're going to take a break

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from skiing on the groom and we're going

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to head into those trees

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what do I love about skiing in the trees

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it's the freedom the ability to kind of

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pick your own path and really flow

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through there

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a lot of people don't know where or when

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to turn and that's what we're really

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going to address with some of the tips

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in this video

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am I ready to jump into the trees well

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here's a couple things you want to ask

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yourself can I make confident parallel

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turns on the groomers can I stop when

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and where I want to anytime we jump into

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the trees our risk factor is going to go

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up why because trees don't move all

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right and you don't really want to wrap

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yourself around one of those things

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first off we're going to take either our

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pull straps or if we click into poles

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we're going to make sure that we remove

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that why because if pole gets stuck in a

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tree or something it's not going to take

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my arm with it the other thing I'm going

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to do is I'm going to put my goggles

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down there's a lot of low hanging

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branches uh you know hopefully the snow

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is really good and powdery and so it's

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kicking up in my face I want to be able

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to see where I'm going the other thing I

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can do is I can see with a buddy ski

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with a friend

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when I go into the trees safety and

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numbers we all go in together we may get

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separated that's okay but we need some

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kind of way to communicate so we can use

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a whistle like

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or a yodel or something like that just

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to let my friend know where I am

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[Music]

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so before we head into the trees we're

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gonna go warm up and why is it important

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for your body to be warm because you

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want your muscles to be able to respond

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when you need them and you may need to

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make some quick decisions and quick

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turns in the trees

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we're going to do the fast turn

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challenge I'm shooting for 25 or more

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let's see how we go

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start turning quickly in three two one

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all right here we go one starting to

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turn two three four okay six seven eight

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nine 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21

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22 23 24 25 26 27.

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you got 30 on that one

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all right

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so again that's just to warm you up and

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you're looking for a 25 that's your

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challenge or more so that you can use

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those short turns that you practice here

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over in there in the trees

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in the trees I'm gonna have to make my

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decisions a lot quicker and I'm really

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going to have to get good at moving my

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body or very rapid movements so we're

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going to do a hockey stop and all I'm

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going to do is really pay attention to

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turning my legs actually coming to a

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stop

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what you want to be able to do is come

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to a stop but also be able to get out of

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it and move so that you can maneuver

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around a tree around a stump around an

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obstacle maybe a creek bed something

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like that and I'm going to do it out

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here on the groom so that I can get

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better at it before I take it into the

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trees so let's do some I'm going to do

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about three seconds practice each way

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and I'll talk you through it come on

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alright so what I'm trying to do is turn

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my legs really quickly I'm trying to

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practice on both sides and actually come

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to a stop

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as you notice I'll actually go down

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I may even plant my pole here because

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I'm having a high edge angle and what I

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commonly see people do is they might

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lean a little bit up the hill this way

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and they might do it but they don't do

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it fast enough and now all of a sudden I

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haven't actually stopped

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you want to be able to come to a stop

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because if there's a tree or a root or

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something in front of you and you

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actually do need to stop you want to be

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able to

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stop right there

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all right so now we've done some hockey

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stops on the groom let's take it to the

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ungroomed all right I'm gonna make a

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couple turns here and then I'm going to

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come to a stop all right so I'm going to

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turn and turn and then oh oh there's a

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tree I need to stop all right I'm going

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to turn a little bit turn a little bit

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oh there's a tree I need to stop

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okay so I'm just looking again for those

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very rapid movements

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all right

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I'm gonna keep on going you may have one

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side a little stronger than the other

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but it's important to actually come to a

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stop there we go stop that way

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one or two and then I could even

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stop right there all right but it's

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important to come to a stop and notice

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how I'm actually moving down so the legs

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are turning quickly I'm moving down I do

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have a high edge angle but if I move

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down I can help to stand on this outside

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ski a little bit more than the inside

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one that's going to help me

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get out of it and go the other way

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[Music]

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let's try some in the trees here so I'll

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give you a little demo right and as I'm

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going down here

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all right if I see a tree or something I

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might want to be able to stop right

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before it versus running right into it

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so I'm going to turn boom just stopping

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right before these there could even be

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some big powder in there

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all right

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so now that we've practiced kind of

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stopping in front of them let's we can

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almost stop but instead of stopping I'm

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gonna keep on going so okay I need to

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keep on moving instead of coming to a

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complete stop

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now I'm starting to flow pick my way

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through the trees

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and that's how I'm skiing the trees

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so take a look at that turn comparison

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pressure metric and see which side is

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maybe stronger and which side is weaker

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pay a careful attention to the weaker

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side and maybe practice more repetitions

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on that side let's see if we can get

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that weaker side up to the stronger side

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all right here we go

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[Music]

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foreign

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[Music]

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I'm going to give you a couple tactics

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to help you improve your line Choice

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when you're skiing the trees

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all right so our first tactic what we're

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gonna do is look at a general Zone

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analysis if you zoom out for a little

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bit and just look at different places if

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you're new to trees you're going to look

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for the places that are a little bit

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more open all right because it's really

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important that we want to ski the spaces

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or the gaps not the actual trees what I

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mean by that is we don't want to look at

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the trees instead we want to look where

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we want to go

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so let me give you some examples here

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from where I'm standing right here I've

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got really three options that I'm

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looking at right now

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over here I've got a little bit

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closer together trees might be a little

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trickier to pick my line but they're

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smaller and the snow is a little bit

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more untracked in the middle here I've

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got a mix of

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some tracks that have been skied up

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um maybe it's a little bit steeper not

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as steep but there's still some ways to

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go and it's not completely wide open

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over here I've got it's very wide open

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there's only some big trees in my path

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I'm gonna go head that way first it's a

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little bit more tracked out with the

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snow but because it's my first time in

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the trees I just really want to get

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comfortable what's the snow doing and

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give myself the best options to go

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around things

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I want to set myself up for Success how

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am I going to do that I'm not going to

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ski the run the whole entire way instead

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I'm going to ski 5 to 10 turns and then

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I'm gonna stop I'm gonna chunk down the

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run and that's going to give me the

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ability to kind of pay attention to the

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fact that a lot of things are coming at

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me I've got trees coming at me I've got

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stumps I Got Roots I've got snow

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conditions they're changing the pitch is

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changing there's a lot of things to take

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in

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all right so I'm gonna go through here

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okay now it's going to open up a little

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bit for me

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all right

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not so bad for the first time through

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it's a little bit wider open here okay

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it gives myself

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a little more room for error and now I

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can kind of take a look it's pretty open

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here but I may try to dip into some of

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the trees over to the right

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here we go

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so in here I'm looking it's a little bit

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wider open

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a little more skied up

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and now I've got some options in between

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here

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it's over this roll

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all right I'm looking for

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where can I sneak maybe I can go around

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this way

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now it's gonna get a little tighter

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whoop

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sneak on through so I keep looking for

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where I want to go not where I am

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another step is that when I get out into

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the open and maybe it's a little more

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skied up

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sometimes I'll start to get some Moguls

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or little bumps in the trees I'm

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actually looking for those kind of

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things why because whenever I'm on top

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of a mogul and if I try to turn on the

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top of it there's less resistance on the

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tips and the Tails of my skis so it's

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really easy for me to make those quick

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turns I can make some redirection

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changes pretty quickly but being on the

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top

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versus being in the trough

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all right how do you know you're going

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to be doing this well or what are you

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going to be feeling

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at some point you won't need to think

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about it anymore you'll be in the trees

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you'll be making decisions on the Fly

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you'll be cutting through little lines

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looking for opportunities little Windows

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of how you can sneak through two trees

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and you're going to be hooting and

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hollering all the way down and I'm gonna

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do that right now

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woohoo

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[Music]

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foreign

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[Music]

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from surviving the trees to being

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thriving in the trees this is what the

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best skiers do when you watch the best

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skiers they're not thinking about it

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there just looks like it's effortless

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and they're just being able to go

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wherever they want and they have so many

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choices

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what we're going to focus on is turn

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shape and turn shape roundness we're

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going to try to make very rounded s

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turns and something that can help me is

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something called a corridor drill what

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I'm going to use is the snowmobile track

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where I have three lines in the snow

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I've got the track from the snowmobile

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in the middle and I've got two outside

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ski lines I'm going to try to plant my

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pole in the middle of the tread track

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and then the ski tracks I'm going to try

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to get my skis to the outside

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all right it's going to create a shorter

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turn for me which is important in the

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trees and it's going to help my timing

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and my rhythm

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now if you don't have a snow making or a

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snowmobile track all you got to do is

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Imagine three lines down the slope

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somewhere all right so if you're doing

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the drill you can take out your phone

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and you can get into free ski mode you

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can start recording and afterwards you

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can check the turn shape metric and see

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if you're doing this well if your scores

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are pretty high

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there's a good chance that you're making

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some rounded s shapes

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if you if your score is a little bit

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lower then you got some more work to do

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but if you keep practicing this drill

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that will really bring these scores up

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so the important thing to remember is is

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if your scores do go down just remember

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that you're continuously trying to make

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those s-shaped rounded turns through the

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trees right and if you need a little bit

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of help you can always come back over to

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the groom and then take it back into the

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trees

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[Music]

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okay so I'm doing the corridor drill I'm

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planting on the trail the tread of the

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snowmobile track feet are going to the

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outside

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feels like I'm doing this Well turns are

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nice and smooth and rounded

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all right

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a lot of people have trouble they might

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be twisting their skis too much and

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twisting it and that's not creating a

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very smooth so you have to allow the

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pressure to build up a little bit

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and allow it to go around

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but I'm always playing my pole down the

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hill this just helps me with the flow

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and the timing and this is what I'm

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trying to do in the trees

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hey so remember this takes a lot of time

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takes a lot of practice so look at the

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turn shape metrics okay spend some time

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on the grooms go back into the trees and

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then come back out it may not happen

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overnight and I am still working on

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things in the trees all right so spend

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some time practice practice

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foreign

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[Music]

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well thank you for taking this lesson

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with me I hope we've improved your

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confidence in learning how to ski trees

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or spending some time in the trees so

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what do we do in this lesson well first

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we talked a little bit about some tips

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to manage or minimize some of the risk

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in the trees next we use some drills

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like the hockey stop help us really

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focus on that rapid movements of our

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legs alright and also being able to

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control in the trees our speed where

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we're going to go next we moved into

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some talk about where we want to go how

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we improve our line our flow through the

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trees and finally we worked on some turn

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shape metrics to help really smooth out

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our turns by using a corridor drill so

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we can really make some nice symmetrical

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s's through the turns through the trees

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and really find our flow one of the

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things I love skiing about the trees is

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usually the snow is a lot better there's

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less people in there and it's really fun

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so I hope you enjoyed this lesson I hope

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to see you out there in the trees maybe

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Venture off from the groomers into the

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trees some more and you'll have more

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confidence you'll have more fun

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and we'll see you next time

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