#72: Why the Wrestling in Jiu Jitsu is so Low Level
Summary
TLDRThe speaker emphasizes the importance of learning wrestling techniques from experienced practitioners rather than just watching and studying. They critique the ineffectiveness of common Jiu-Jitsu takedown methods, such as collar ties, due to poor stances and lack of understanding of wrestling fundamentals like push-pull strategy. The video script calls for a better integration of wrestling skills into Jiu-Jitsu, recommending learning from skilled wrestlers who can teach effective systems, not just moves, for improved grappling and takedown techniques.
Takeaways
- 🤼♂️ The speaker emphasizes the importance of learning wrestling techniques from those who have actually practiced and competed in wrestling, rather than just watching instructionals or studying the sport.
- 🎥 The speaker criticizes the common practice in Jiu-Jitsu of watching wrestling films without the practical experience to back it up, comparing it to watching Kung Fu films and thinking it makes one an expert.
- 🏆 The speaker highlights his own credentials, having started wrestling in 1991 and coached at various levels, including working under accomplished coaches and learning from their expertise.
- 🤔 The speaker discusses the misconception that one cannot learn wrestling effectively if they start later in life, using his own experience starting Judo in adulthood as a counterargument.
- 🔄 The speaker points out fundamental flaws in Jiu-Jitsu practitioners' wrestling techniques, particularly the lack of understanding of proper stances and hand fighting strategies that align with those stances.
- 📚 He stresses the need for a good wrestling foundation to improve Jiu-Jitsu, especially in controlling an opponent's position and executing effective takedowns.
- 🚫 The speaker argues against the prevalent but ineffective practice of reaching with the same arm and leg in wrestling, showing how it can be easily exploited.
- 🤝 He criticizes the teaching of 50-50 hand grips in Jiu-Jitsu, advocating for more traditional and effective wrestling grips that lead to better control and positioning.
- 👊 The speaker calls for a revision in the way wrestling is taught within Jiu-Jitsu, advocating for input from experienced wrestlers to improve the integration of wrestling techniques.
- 🏌️♂️ The speaker suggests that even the best Jiu-Jitsu practitioners can benefit from a strong wrestling game, citing examples of high-level competitors who successfully incorporate wrestling into their Jiu-Jitsu.
- 📈 Finally, the speaker recommends learning from wrestlers who are also proficient in Jiu-Jitsu to gain a comprehensive understanding of both sports and to elevate one's grappling skills.
Q & A
What is the main point the speaker is trying to make about wrestling and Jiu-Jitsu?
-The speaker emphasizes that to improve in wrestling, especially within the context of Jiu-Jitsu, one must learn from those who have actual wrestling experience and understand the fundamentals, rather than just watching and trying to mimic without the proper knowledge.
Why does the speaker believe that watching wrestling matches does not make someone an expert?
-The speaker compares it to watching Kung Fu films and not becoming a Kung Fu expert. Observing the sport is not the same as having the physical and technical skills required to perform and excel in it.
What does the speaker suggest is a fundamental problem in Jiu-Jitsu regarding wrestling techniques?
-The speaker identifies that many Jiu-Jitsu practitioners use upright stances which are ineffective for wrestling techniques that require a more forward-leaning or specific stance to be successful.
What is the speaker's view on the effectiveness of collar ties in Jiu-Jitsu?
-The speaker criticizes the common practice of collar ties in Jiu-Jitsu, stating that they are often ineffective due to the upright stance of practitioners and lack of proper hand fighting strategy.
Why does the speaker argue that Jiu-Jitsu practitioners should learn proper wrestling techniques?
-The speaker argues that learning proper wrestling techniques from experienced wrestlers can significantly improve a Jiu-Jitsu practitioner's ability to take control of a match, especially in terms of takedowns and ground positioning.
What issue does the speaker see with the way Jiu-Jitsu is often taught regarding wrestling moves?
-The speaker criticizes that Jiu-Jitsu is often taught by instructors who have no wrestling experience, leading to ineffective and inefficient wrestling techniques being taught and practiced.
What does the speaker suggest is a common mistake made by Jiu-Jitsu practitioners when attempting takedowns?
-The speaker suggests that reaching with the same arm and leg simultaneously is a common and ineffective mistake, as it leads to poor positioning and an easy opportunity for the opponent to defend or counter.
What advice does the speaker give to Jiu-Jitsu practitioners looking to improve their wrestling skills?
-The speaker advises Jiu-Jitsu practitioners to learn from experienced wrestlers, to focus on fundamental wrestling skills, and to understand how to chain wrestle to different moves effectively.
Why does the speaker believe that the argument 'you can't use wrestling in Jiu-Jitsu' is invalid?
-The speaker points out that the argument is invalid because successful wrestlers and coaches, like John Danaher, have incorporated wrestling techniques into their Jiu-Jitsu game, proving that wrestling can be effectively used in Jiu-Jitsu.
What does the speaker think about the teaching of 50-50 hand grips in Jiu-Jitsu?
-The speaker criticizes the teaching of 50-50 hand grips in Jiu-Jitsu as being ineffective and leading to a lack of progress in hand fighting, suggesting that it does not lead to successful takedowns or control.
What is the speaker's opinion on the importance of stance in Jiu-Jitsu wrestling techniques?
-The speaker believes that stance is crucial in Jiu-Jitsu wrestling techniques, as it directly impacts the effectiveness of hand fighting and takedown attempts, advocating for a stance that allows for better control and positioning.
Outlines
🎥 The Importance of Learning from Experienced Wrestlers
The speaker emphasizes the value of learning wrestling techniques from those who have practical experience, rather than just theoretical knowledge. They refute the idea that watching wrestling makes someone an expert, drawing a parallel to watching Kung Fu films not making someone a Kung Fu master. The speaker, a wrestling coach since 1991, discusses their journey from wrestling to coaching and then to Jiu-Jitsu, highlighting the importance of stance and control in both sports. They express their intention to help people improve in these areas through their YouTube channel and instructional content.
🤼♂️ Wrestling Fundamentals in Jiu-Jitsu: The Problem with Upright Stances
This paragraph delves into the shortcomings of Jiu-Jitsu practitioners using wrestling moves without proper understanding. The speaker criticizes the common upright stance in Jiu-Jitsu, which is ill-suited for effective wrestling techniques such as collar ties. They explain how spinal alignment and stance affect the success of takedowns and argue that Jiu-Jitsu players often lack the basic understanding of wrestling principles, which are essential for controlling opponents on the ground. The speaker also addresses the inefficiency of prolonged collar tie battles in Jiu-Jitsu, contrasting them with the quick takedowns in traditional wrestling.
📚 The Misconception of Teaching Wrestling by Non-Wrestlers
The speaker discusses the issue of Jiu-Jitsu instructors teaching wrestling techniques without having a wrestling background. They compare this to the outrage that would ensue if a wrestler or judoka attempted to teach wrestling without experience in that discipline. The paragraph highlights the inconsistency in the grappling community where Jiu-Jitsu practitioners are often taught wrestling by coaches with no wrestling experience, leading to ineffective techniques. The speaker also criticizes the idea that wrestling is not applicable to Jiu-Jitsu, pointing out that many wrestling moves are still used in the sport.
🤷♂️ The Ineffectiveness of Common Jiu-Jitsu Wrestling Techniques
In this paragraph, the speaker points out the ineffectiveness of certain wrestling techniques as taught in Jiu-Jitsu, such as the 50-50 hand grip position. They argue that these techniques do not work in practice and are not used in actual wrestling competitions. The speaker advises against using these techniques and suggests that good head position and body isolation are more effective strategies. They also discuss the importance of understanding the principles of underhook and overhook grips in wrestling and how they apply to Jiu-Jitsu.
🏆 The Need for Cross-Disciplinary Learning in Wrestling and Jiu-Jitsu
The speaker stresses the importance of learning wrestling fundamentals from qualified sources to improve one's Jiu-Jitsu game. They argue that good wrestling skills can greatly enhance a Jiu-Jitsu practitioner's ability to control a match and take the fight to the ground effectively. The speaker also emphasizes the need for wrestlers to understand Jiu-Jitsu to avoid ending up in disadvantageous positions after a takedown. They mention several wrestlers who are successful in Jiu-Jitsu and advocate learning from those with legitimate wrestling experience.
🛑 The Overlooked Importance of Push-Pull Techniques in Wrestling
This paragraph focuses on the push-pull technique in wrestling, which the speaker believes is not being taught correctly by Jiu-Jitsu coaches. They explain the classic wrestling concept of push-pull, emphasizing it's not about shaking an opponent but about creating an opportunity for takedowns through proper timing and body positioning. The speaker criticizes the common misunderstanding of this technique in Jiu-Jitsu and calls for a return to classic wrestling principles for effective takedowns.
📈 The Path to Effective Wrestling in Jiu-Jitsu: Learning from the Right Sources
The speaker concludes by reiterating the importance of learning wrestling from those who have competed in it. They suggest that watching instructional videos and understanding the systems behind the moves are crucial for Jiu-Jitsu practitioners to improve their wrestling skills. The speaker also recommends several wrestlers known for their takedown techniques and their success in Jiu-Jitsu, advocating for a more classical approach to wrestling instruction within the Jiu-Jitsu community.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Wrestling
💡Instructionals
💡Stance
💡Takedown
💡Hand Fighting
💡Control
💡Jiu-Jitsu
💡Coaching
💡Position
💡Push-Pull
💡Competition
Highlights
The importance of learning wrestling techniques from those who have actually practiced it, rather than just watching and studying.
The speaker's experience in coaching wrestling and his journey from coaching collegiate wrestlers to teaching Jiu-Jitsu.
The necessity of having a proper stance in wrestling and Jiu-Jitsu for effective takedown attempts and maintaining position.
The contrast between the speaker's free YouTube content and his instructional with Jordan Burroughs on improving wrestling fundamentals.
The myth that one cannot learn wrestling effectively after a certain age, debunked by the speaker's personal experience.
The common issue in Jiu-Jitsu of poor wrestling execution due to lack of proper coaching and understanding of wrestling principles.
The ineffectiveness of collar ties in Jiu-Jitsu due to incorrect stances and the need for better hand fighting strategy.
The speaker's critique of the prevalent 50-50 hand grip positions in Jiu-Jitsu and their lack of strategic value.
The need for Jiu-Jitsu practitioners to learn from wrestlers with legitimate wrestling experience for effective takedown techniques.
The speaker's instructional content on how to dismantle opponents using underhooks and head positioning in wrestling.
The ineffectiveness of the same-arm same-leg reach in wrestling and its prevalence in Jiu-Jitsu, leading to poor takedown attempts.
The importance of understanding push-pull technique in wrestling, which is often misunderstood or incorrectly taught in Jiu-Jitsu.
The speaker's argument that Jiu-Jitsu practitioners should not fear ending up in an opponent's guard due to their takedown skills.
The need for a摔跤手 to learn how to wrestle from all positions and the importance of combining wrestling with Jiu-Jitsu for a well-rounded grappling game.
The speaker's recommendations for Jiu-Jitsu practitioners to learn from wrestlers like Brandon Reed, Michael Tarver, John Marsh, and J-Flow for effective wrestling techniques.
The final advice to Jiu-Jitsu practitioners to stop reaching for collar ties against upright opponents and to learn proper hand fighting from experienced wrestlers.
Transcripts
if you want to improve your wrestling
then you need to listen to people who
actually did
it I know what people say oh but that
guy watches so much film of wrestling
whatever oh I watch Kung Fu film does
that make me a Kung Fu expert that is
the dumbest thing I've ever
heard in my life like just because
somebody watches somebody wrestle and
studies it doesn't mean that they know
how to do it I know that they don't know
how to do it because I've watched their
instructionals hey everybody welcome
back to the channel today I need to talk
about something thing and I know it's
going to be controversial and I know
it's going to hurt people's feelings but
probably not controversial because I
think most people agree on it but it's
going to hurt some people's feelings or
whatever but it needs to be said so
first thing I'm going to say is this the
whole reason that I started my channel
in the first place was to help people
okay I've been coaching wrestling for a
long long time okay I started wrestling
back in 1991 and I really started
coaching as a Collegiate wrestler when
my uh assistant coach was running um a
wrestling club and you know we would
help out and then I learned from him and
he uh my assistant coach was the head
coach of the Olympic team head coach of
the world team Greco okay but he was
also an NCAA champion and four-time
All-American so he's good at all styles
and I started doing Jiu-Jitsu like four
years ago and um I realized like right
away I mean like these guys don't know
the basics of how to control people from
the standing position so forget the
takeown thing that's the people always
want to know like well how do I take
somebody down and I'm like the first
thing that you need to do is know how to
stand you the first thing you need is a
stance because I don't want him taking
me down okay the other thing about it is
that I need a stance because in order
for me to make my takedown attempts work
I need to have the most powerful
position that I can have and I need to
be able to maintain that position
throughout the takedown
so um so I I put a lot of content on
YouTube for free then I made an
instructional with Jordan presure um on
this very thing because I really want to
help people in Jiu-Jitsu it's really I
think it's more fun than coaching high
school kids wrestling now because I find
coaching adults is is very rewarding I
co kids uh coaching was also very
rewarding but I kind of like working
with adults they seem to uh cut through
the fat a lot faster uh and understand
so it's not that in
Jiu-Jitsu people are incapable of
learning wrestling I get this all the
time people say stuff to me like oh I'm
like in my 20s like can I learn how to
wrestle like of course you can I mean
what would you think you all of a sudden
you can't learn something because you
started it you know too late in your
life and like you can't wrestle now like
that's not that is nonsense okay like I
didn't start doing Judo until I was an
very much an adult and you know and then
I went back to it in my 40s like at 43
years old blew out my ACL that's another
story but but you know I'm a lifelong
learner too so I can still learn things
um so people DM me all the time and they
ask me why does wrestling suck so bad in
Jiu-Jitsu okay this is the thing that's
going to hurt people's feelings and I
know all the I know all of the arguments
to this I've heard them all I've read
them all too online it's not wrestling
it's Jiu-Jitsu yeah I mean you can say
that but if you're using wrestling moves
to try to take somebody down kind of's
wrestling right and we say in wrestling
like uh there's multiple styles of
wrestling we always say wrestling is
wrestling so Greco Roman rule sets look
nothing in the strategy looks nothing
like folk style wrestling okay but it's
still wrestling you're still the same
principles of head position the same
same principles of inside position
control and hip position and all of
those things are all the same okay and
the stances and this is where I I really
get into this the instructional the
stances matter okay the hand fighting
strategy the hand fighting techniques
need to uh follow the position of the
stance so that is my hand fighting
strategy for somebody who's in like a
folk style wrestling stance where
they're sort of more their shoulders are
more leaning forward right is going to
be different than when somebody's in
like a Greco Roman stance and this is
one of the fundamental problems that I
see in Jiu-Jitsu is that people are in a
much more upright stance but they're
trying to use moves uh like the most
one I get all the time is is the collar
tie right everybody's trying to reach
for collar ties first of all you should
never reach okay if you're not making
like if you're not getting a head
position on somebody first and you're
not like touching this part of their
body first you should never reach
towards the head reaching towards the
head in any style of wrestling is a big
problem if you do it in Greco um you are
going to get suplexed and the stances
are very similar people in Jiu-Jitsu and
Greco stand more upright I covered this
on my instructional as to why people
like to do it they're afraid of getting
to drop their head so they don't get
choked but the choke comes not from your
head being higher than somebody even
though that could help it's from your
spinal alignment being bent right so if
you want to Guillotine somebody their
back has to be like this try G
guillotining somebody like this even if
you're taller than them it just doesn't
work very well because when their back
is straight you you need their head to
be here and you need their their back to
bend it doesn't work you can't collar
tie somebody when their spine is like
this because their legs are underneath
them they're not leaning forward and so
when you pull out on their head right
their front leg is out farther than
where their shoulder alignment is so
you're pulling straight down into their
quads which is going to easily be able
to support the weight and your your
back's in this kind of alignment if I
try to pull somebody down on a collar
tie like this it doesn't work okay and
this is why you see it not working in
Jiu-Jitsu you see people doing these 20
minute long collar tie battles
and they're inefficient and they're
ineffective and they're boring as hell
to watch okay and you be like if this
match is two to three times longer than
a traditional wrestling match why aren't
these guys capable of getting anybody
out of position and scoring at all is it
because their defense is so good no it's
not okay like I see guys getting on a
single leg and they can hold it for 25
seconds or longer in some cases 20s
something seconds and not like
get taken down off of that if you in
high school grab a single leg and hold
it for more than a few seconds that
person's defense is going to end up
working against you okay so what's going
on here right why isn't it working so in
most cases what you have and this is
I've seen this trust me from the own
schools that I've been at right is you
have a one jiu-jitsu instructor head
lead instructor and no wrestling coaches
and that person is teaching you how to
take people down to the ghee which is
like old judo rules where you're allowed
to grab the legs too and then you know
also using the the ghee like Judo and
trying to teach you how to do nogee uh
wrestling wrestling basically takedowns
um and not and they've neither wrestled
nor have they done Judo now let me ask
you something okay because this seems to
fly all the time in Jiu-Jitsu where you
know you're like my instructor is
teaching me all the takedowns and
everything they've never done Judo
they've never done wrestling that's fine
and they think that that's fine and then
it's like well but then if you read
things on the Internet it's like a
judoka trying to teach people how to
wrestle people flip out about that oh
well you don't have the ghee on you
don't know what you're doing sir and
then if it's like oh they're doing like
nawaza oh their Jiu-Jitsu sucks their
groundwork sucks and then imagine like
going to a wrestling coach and being
like hey can you teach me how to do Judo
hey can you teach me how to do Jiu-Jitsu
people would flip out you can't do that
wrestlers don't know how to do Jiu-Jitsu
and it's like yeah they don't right
unless they actually practice Jiu-Jitsu
so why is it okay then that a Jiu-Jitsu
person with absolutely no wrestling
experience whatsoever can teach you
wrestling but then you but then later
the argument becomes because it's not
wrestling because it's j Jitsu and it's
like I've heard all these arguments
before okay donaher is actually the one
that really uh started this and really
pushed it in that direction he said okay
we're talking to Bernardo and i' I've
heard them say it more than once you
can't use wrestling because their High
amplitude throws have no control you
can't use Judo because the high
amplitude throws have no control and you
know if you don't have a jacket on then
you can't do those moves or whatever
okay sounds like a good argument until
you watch um his and I I did the review
of that standing the ground too where he
just took the entire American Scholastic
wrestling system okay he stole the whole
thing okay and like all of it okay and
then slapped it on called it scrimmage
wrestling and it's not it's folk style
wrestling and it's like oh but wait a
minute what about all that control when
you get to the ground well yeah because
it was overstated I mean like Jordan
buroughs is in freestyle and he's not he
he doesn't suplex anybody he doesn't
have any well actually suplex does kind
of have control but he's not throwing
people without control he's a double guy
and it's a that's a great move in
Jiu-Jitsu somebody you get somebody out
of their stance they're standing up
right you blast double them you know
take them down low wrap the legs up pass
the guard it's a great takedown for it
so it was really overstated okay it's a
great selling point it was like and
actually I know that this was true I
heard it written I read it I heard him
say it it's like you need an entirely
new system you can't use bolt on he said
he can't bolt on wrestling but hey
here's this instructional where I use
all the wrestling moves
and some Judo moves and if they were
wrestling moves where you had a judo
equivalent use Japanese names to call
them things and then call it scrimmage
wrestling okay so we were I was I was I
was sold on it a lot of other people
were sold on it don't be mad about it
but that's what happened okay so the
argument that you can't use wrestling in
Jiu-Jitsu is a dead argument John killed
it okay because then he put out an
entire wrestling instructional using all
the moves that we already know that work
in wrestling and so so but why doesn't
it work though and it's because the hand
fighting needs to match the standup
position if you're standing upright you
can't hand fight the same way you're not
going to be collar tying people and have
it be effective writing's on the wall
you can argue with me all you want about
it watch any Jiu-Jitsu match and you'll
see the collar tying to the snapdown
thing isn't working because they're not
selling it you know what I mean like if
you want to take if you want a collar
tie snap down to work well you know you
have to like get inside position and
push people till they push you back and
then snap you don't you don't just grab
it and hold it if you grab it and hold
it the person's back stiffens up now in
wrestling if you do that if you pull
down in their back stiffens up you drop
your level and go under them and shoot
which you don't see that much in
Jiu-Jitsu you should I mean and people
always say oh yeah because you're gonna
get choked and I'm like uh I see people
hold a single leg for 25 seconds and
don't get choked so it's not it's not
that hard to not get choked if you have
good head position on your single leg
okay just such a dead argument like you
can't use those anymore okay doesn't
work if otherwise you would see that
every single person who ever got a
single leg in Jitsu got choked out and
they don't okay it just doesn't it's not
a very strong argument okay what my
point is another thing of these 5050
hand grid positions I don't know why
people teach it in Jiu-Jitsu it's all
over the place you know I mean look look
at it you see people they come right out
and then they they try to accept the
grips and then the other person just
gives them their hands like you anybody
who's any good that knows how to wrestle
and like I've said this before on my
channels and on the instructional I've I
have wrestled with International
competition like in Europeans you're not
getting your hand back and if you do get
it back those fingers aren't going to
work the same way ever again you go
interlacing finger grips with people you
go to these palm palm grips well what
happens when you want to switch your
position oh he has to agree to let go of
your hand like there's going to be some
gentleman agreement and it's taught all
over the place I mean John shows it all
over the place on his channel it's like
their strategy to do these hand fight
positions you see Gordon do it you see
Amery do it you see John do it I mean
all you got to do is look at the
Instagram look at the the actual matches
it accomplishes nothing it is a point L
Endeavor don't do it avoid it you want
to have good head position you want to
dismantle your opponent by having like
isolate a side of their body you get
inside control that's why I like the
underhook with the head on the same side
position because I've isolated his body
now if I get my thigh inside the inner
thigh contact now he can't uchim me and
everything can't do any turn throws
because I've blocked his hips and this
is a classic well-known thing that
everybody knows and Greco and and Judo
it's important too like if somebody has
the Right Grips to do uchim Ma I want to
deny them that inside hit position now
the thing about Judo is is that if they
have an over the back grip they can
quite easily you know trip you now from
the outside but in wrestling the
overhook grip is definitely not as
powerful as an underhook grip and I know
people say well it works for me and I'm
like well you haven't wrestled anybody
tough then because generally speaking if
I have an overhook I'm looking to get
inside position with my hip because I
know that my hip position is far more
powerful than the actual overhook
whereas like if I have underhook hook
position it is better if I have my
inside leg pit in but if I don't I still
have very powerful position if my head
is in the right place right but a lot of
these coaches I mean they're not
teaching proper head position they're
teaching 50-50 hand grip positions which
Mount to nothing they go nowhere and
honestly like I don't have to defend my
position on this too much because
everything that I said would happen did
happen if you watch less ADCC and you
watch my ADCC 2020 uh2 video you can see
all the people leaving single legs for
side body locks and getting uchim modded
right and like I called that long before
ADCC that this was a bad position
because it's known from wrestling it's a
bad position okay and so a lot of these
problems can be solved quite easily by
just having like good fundamental
wrestling skills who are you going to
learn good fundamental wrestling skills
from you're not going to learn it from
somebody who's doing Jiu-Jitsu who's
never wrestled before you're going to
learn it from somebody who actually
knows wrestling and jiujitsu okay that's
important too you want to know that okay
like
if somebody's never done Jiu-Jitsu they
probably need to do some Jiu-Jitsu so
that they understand the rules matter in
terms of like you know the strategy for
when you get somebody to the ground how
you get them to the ground you don't
want to end up in a bad position when
you get there okay now I don't mean in
their guard that's a lazy person's way
of thinking about this like you end up
in somebody's guard I mean you don't
want to end up in a submission hold okay
so you need to but you can use very
classic fundamental wrestling to end up
in very good positions m gvo is a good
example of somebody who's doing an
excellent job of doing this he's
combining head pinch position chest wrap
positions and using it to get uh you
know to to launch people to then get in
a top position right and or taking away
when they do bad position on under hooks
where their heads pulled away from it
like when he wrestled against or when he
fought
um PJ barch barch had his head pulled
out of position so he was able to do a
flying armar he wouldn't have been able
to do that if his head had been in the
right position and he just I think that
March just kind of didn't think about it
too much you know he just sort of pulled
his head away and then boom like he
capitalized on and that's because M
actually knows how to wrestle quite well
okay so you can use very good classic
wrestling and then combine it with
jiu-jitsu this is why I think you need a
good wrestler somebody a good wrestler
with good fundamentals what needs to
happen is is that the people who know
wrestling well need to teach the
Jiu-Jitsu guys what to use how to use it
right why to use it when to use it how
to use it all those things right because
it's not people's fault it's not their
fault that they're in Jiu-Jitsu I'm
saying it's not their fault that they
don't know how to wrestle because
they're being taught by people who don't
know how to wrestle who've never
wrestled and they're reaching with the
same arm same leg collar ties you see it
all over the place it's on all the
Instagrams it's on on every match I'll
show you all kinds of photographs of
these people they're learning it from
the instructors themselves reaching with
the same arm same leg is going to get
you in so much trouble it is so easy
there are match after match after match
I can show you where in wrestling where
people only do it for a split second
it's not even way out of position like
it is in Jiu-Jitsu where people are so
out of position in Jiu-Jitsu when they
do it you're just giving the guy access
to your legs I cover this on my
instructional I covered on my channel
right I'll show you some NCAA footage of
it right where like you can see aroua do
it to fix and fix is a a junior world
champion and he just for a split second
reached with the same arm same leg and
and and arua so good he saw it thumb
posted him lifted him up took him
straight to his back in the semi-finals
of the NCAA tournament last year right
and then he went on to become a world
champion and so it works at that level
okay and those guys have good wrestling
stances which means that their head is
going to be in the way and Jiu-Jitsu
guys are standing so upright that they
don't even have head position anymore so
you're past their head now you only have
to worry about their hands and the Hand
fighting skills in Jiu-Jitsu were
terrible because you just see
people like fake like I just saw marali
last night do this to um and in his last
fight against Penna he faked like he was
going to reach for a colar tie which
isn't the wor strategy in the world and
then he just shot in on the leg but it's
like Penna should have just been able to
drop his hands down with basic basic
defense and block him you know and so
you should never reach with two hands
right for sure um and Penna reached up
like as as merali reached fake reached
and then and then shot on him okay it's
not much of a setup it just goes to show
you that if it works it works at that
level because the wrestling is very bad
okay and it's not their fault this is
how they're being taught it's in in all
the wrestling uh that's being taught
needs to be revised like tremendously in
order to be effective but a lot of it
starts with the fact that like the the
way that people are doing it right the
way that the way that people are
approaching the hand fighting is not
matching The Stance now I argue that
standing upright in Jiu-Jitsu isn't a
good idea anyway okay like if you can
have more Flex in your knees more Flex
in your legs and still have a straight
back and not get choked and then you're
so easily going to be able to get past
the person's head defense right that's
the first line of defense and past their
hands the second line of defense with
some basic hand fighting skills I show a
lot of Greco U not a lot I show some
Greco on the on the um instructional
because you know if you're one I mean
you may not want to shoot your old
whatever um maybe you're really tall um
all these things but I also show like
you don't have to go to your knees to
get a lot of these shots because people
are so out of their stance to begin with
okay so if you want to improve your
wrestling then you need to listen to
people who actually did
it I know what people say oh but that
guy watches so much film of wrestling
whatever oh I watch Kung Fu film does
that make me a Kung Fu expert that is
the dumbest thing I've ever
heard in my life like just because
somebody watches somebody wrestle and
studies it doesn't mean that they know
how to do it I know that they don't know
how to do it because I've watched their
instructionals and they don't truly
understand what pushpull means I've seen
it push pull does not mean that you grab
a hold of somebody and shake them are
you pushing them and pulling them yeah
but that's not what that means okay it's
much more intricate than that and I
covered on my instructional I cover a
little bit on my channel which is like I
push the person until they stop me I
stop pushing them they're they're
pushing now they come they Lean Forward
their postural alignment gets out right
now I pull him so it's really push he
pushes I stop pushing he comes in
because he was already pushing I let go
and then I pull that's how that works
okay I've seen John teach this where he
like Gets behind somebody and just
shakes their
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hips you just grab their hands and
you're out man like I don't know
where that came from um but like that's
not pushpull okay and then I know that
like I've watched the instructionals
that he has he doesn't really teach the
classic way of wrestling and push pull
now he's starting to talk about it
though okay okay cuz I called him out
for it on John on the Gordon Ryan video
now he's starting to talk about it a
little bit and he does that he'll start
talking about it trust me now I mean he
he listens he pays attention like um and
but you know and I want him to be able
to teach it but he hasn't been okay
historically he has not taught how push
pole works properly and none of these
guys are teaching how push pole really
works okay they may say it um and they
may write dissertations on their
Instagram posts about what it means but
they don't really teach it in the
classic sense of how taught in wrestling
you can tell the difference between some
of how good some of these Jiu-Jitsu guys
are when you watch their ground games
and you see that they understand like
pushing and then the guy pushes back and
then they drag right to take the back
and stuff so they do understand the push
pull on the ground very well and I mean
Jon's probably one of the greatest
Jiu-Jitsu um people on the ground ever
right and and more than that um he's
probably one of the greatest coaches to
to prepare his athletes for competition
than ever um because if you look at how
his athletes do in competition they
don't gas and I think it's because he is
has a pulse on uh their training and
like how hard they're pushing it and
then he backs off maybe and if they're
if they're overtrained or whatever I
mean I think he's very has a very good
uh sense of the pulse of the room and
how how hard people are training in
everything and then that makes him that
makes him that much better of a coach
okay but in terms of like Preparing
People for how to take people down and
everything I mean if if his systems on
takedowns were working so well then we
would just see him demolishing people
and we don't like we do not see his guys
demolishing people on their feet at all
and when they do get takedowns they're
pretty sloppy okay frankly and I mean
it's F I'm I'm not saying it's not
effective at at any level or whatever
I'm just saying it needs to be better it
could be better it needs to be better
and like but you also have to keep this
in mind because I know people say this
all the time like um you know does
Gordon Ryan need to have an amazing
takedown game no does myal need to have
an amazing takedown game no you know why
because their freaking guards are so
good that it doesn't matter how the
fight goes to the ground but you're not
maragall you're not Gordon Ryan and so
you're not those people so if you think
your guard is that good that you just
don't need to be able to take somebody
down and get in a top control position
then by all means you know but most
people kind of want to start to have
better wrestling skills because they
want to be able to take control of that
match and take it to the ground how they
want when they want how they want okay
and that's what's going to help you uh
take your Jiu-Jitsu to another level is
is when you can control when the fight
gets to the ground how it gets to the
ground and what position you end up in
when you get to the ground when you get
to the ground and you've got somebody on
their back well then now they're doing
Jiu-Jitsu and hopefully you're past
their guard and if not well then you
have to use Jiu-Jitsu to pass their
guard and this notion that everybody
asks me about it's like oh but that
taked down that could end up in his
guard so what like you know like use
Jiu-Jitsu to pass the guard then if
you're so worried to take a shot on
somebody because you're going to end up
in their guard like well what happens
when they pull guard on you then you
know so you need to get that out of your
head like that that whole like notion of
oh well I'm gonna end up in his guard oh
well or he's gonna end up on my back
okay like learn how to wrestle like and
get stand up learn how to wrestle and
reverse the position grany standup
switches hrug all the things that I've
shown on my Channel I didn't show a
switch on my channel but you get the
idea like you need to learn how to
wrestle from all positions you need to
know how to do Jiu-Jitsu from all
positions otherwise you're you're going
to be an ineffective um Grappler so I
hope this kind of helps uh to clarify
things I think wrestling will get better
um I think though it's going to have to
come from wrestlers if you want my
opinion on who I think are good
wrestlers I this isn't in any order
these are just people who I happen to
like uh watch people who are good at
taking you to the ground and having good
control I think Brandon Reed um is a
great option guy's a three-time national
champion uh in wrestling and he's doing
quite well in Jiu-Jitsu um he's a big
guy but he moves super super fast and
super well and and honestly if you watch
what he teaches it's not very different
than what I teach it's classic good
wrestling another one is Michael tro he
also has phenomenal technique very
similar to what I do um we also like
wrestled in college quite close to each
other so I think the Styles actually
match up quite well and he's very good
at Jiu-Jitsu um John Marsh he's another
great uh Collegiate wrestler um who is
obviously very good at Jiu-Jitsu and JT
Torres is coach there's a reason why JT
Torres is wrestling is so good um who
else oh J flow holy crap yeah I mean
watch J flow right these are all people
who have uh legitimate wrestling skills
you know and you're not going to see
them just reaching for people just
reaching things got to stop um it's
telegraphing I mean the other person's
back is just going to stiff up now you
should learn how to use that to your
advantage and and drop your level and
and take them down when they do that
okay because they're halfway you're
halfway there they they've literally got
zero like head defense okay so it's
quite easily it's quite easy to take
people down when when they're standing
upright like that so um that's what I my
recommendation would be okay you watch
those people um watch some of the stuff
that I've put out too and you'll see
that there's a lot of similarities and
the philosophies of how you move people
around there's only so many ways to move
somebody okay and that's the most
effective way of doing it is to use
classic wrestling taught by a class
somebody who's been classically trained
in wrestling not somebody who's just
watching it okay like watching it and
doing it and having competed in it are
two completely different things this
doesn't mean by the way that as a
Jiu-Jitsu coach or as a Jiu-Jitsu uh
competitor that you can't learn how to
wrestle my advice though is is that when
you buy wrestling in instructionals for
Jiu-Jitsu that you buy them from people
who actually know how to wrestle because
then you're going to get the details
that make these systems not moves
systems matter a lot of people can show
you moves and then they're one stop
they're one trick ponies they don't
teach you how to switch and chain
wrestle to different moves but it's odd
because if you watch those same people
do Jiu-Jitsu oh man they got whole
systems of leg locking systems and
everything and that's because that's
what they understand right and that's
where you can see the holes in the game
like their Jiu-Jitsu is amazing the
wrestling is
very entry level okay so hopefully uh
that clarifies some things hopefully
this helps you um you know stop callar
tying people who are standing up right
okay you have to use some Greco to do
that watch some Greco and you'll see
that people don't do that okay and it's
because it's ineffective and uh you know
learn how to hand fight people from
different um postures and you'll go a
lot further okay so next time thanks for
watching and uh please like And
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