RIP Adobe.
Summary
TLDRDans cette vidéo de Clownish TV, l'animateur Neon et sa co-animateur Sparkles discutent de l'intégration croissante de l'IA dans Photoshop, un sujet controversé parmi les artistes numériques. Ils abordent les réactions négatives des artistes à cette évolution, qui remet en question l'authenticité et la créativité de leur travail. La discussion met en lumière les défis de la reconnaissance des artistes face à l'utilisation de l'IA, et les implications pour les outils de création tels que Clip Studio Paint et d'autres alternatives. L'épisode soulève des questions sur l'avenir de la création artistique et le rôle de l'IA dans le processus créatif.
Takeaways
- 🎨 Adobe Photoshop ajoute des outils AI pour créer de l'art, suscitant des réactions mitigées parmi les artistes.
- 🤔 Les artistes s'interrogent sur l'impact de l'IA sur leur travail et leur créativité.
- 🔧 Les outils AI de Photoshop permettent de retoucher et d'étendre des images de manière plus rapide et efficace.
- 🚫 Certains artistes voient cette évolution comme une menace pour leur métier et leur créativité.
- 👨🎨 L'IA est incorporée dans Photoshop, un outil utilisé par la majorité des artistes pour l'art numérique.
- 🤖 Les artistes s'inquiètent de ne plus être reconnus pour leur travail, étant donné que l'IA peut créer des œuvres similaires.
- 🖼️ Photoshop propose de nouvelles fonctionnalités telles que la suppression automatique d'arrière-plans qui économise du temps pour les créateurs.
- 📉 La réaction négative à l'intégration de l'IA dans Photoshop pourrait menacer la base d'utilisateurs d'Adobe.
- 📱 D'autres logiciels concurrents comme Clip Studio Paint et Procreate sont mentionnés comme alternatives à Photoshop.
- 💬 Les utilisateurs prônent le piratage des produits Adobe en réaction au développement de l'IA dans Photoshop.
- 🔄 L'évolution rapide de l'IA dans le domaine artistique soulève des questions sur les droits des artistes et la propriété intellectuelle.
Q & A
Quel est le sujet principal abordé dans le script de la vidéo ?
-Le sujet principal du script est l'intégration de l'IA dans Photoshop et son impact sur les artistes et les utilisateurs de Photoshop.
Quels outils d'IA Adobe a-t-elle ajouté à Photoshop ?
-Adobe a ajouté des outils d'IA tels que le remplissage génératif AI et des filtres neuronaux, ainsi que de nouvelles fonctionnalités pour créer de l'art entièrement à partir de prompts.
Quels sont les sentiments des artistes numériques à l'égard de l'IA intégrée dans Photoshop ?
-Les sentiments sont mitigés, avec certains artistes étant contre l'utilisation de l'IA car ils pensent que cela nuit à leur travail et à leur capacité à gagner leur vie.
Pourquoi les utilisateurs de Photoshop pourraient-ils avoir des difficultés à prouver l'originalité de leur travail ?
-Comme l'IA a été formée sur des œuvres d'art préexistantes, il peut être difficile de prouver que le travail est original si l'exportation se fait simplement en tant que fichier Photoshop.
Quels sont les avantages que l'IA apporte à Photoshop, selon le script ?
-L'IA peut être utile pour ajuster des images, améliorer des photos, éliminer automatiquement les fonds et accélérer certaines tâches fastidieuses, économisant ainsi du temps pour les artistes.
Quel est l'argument de l'hôte de la vidéo contre l'utilisation excessive de l'IA dans la création artistique ?
-L'argument est que l'IA est en train de prendre le contrôle de la création artistique, rendant les artistes redondants et menaçant leur capacité à gagner leur vie.
Quels sont les outils de remplacement pour Photoshop mentionnés dans le script ?
-Clip Studio Paint et GIMP sont mentionnés comme alternatives à Photoshop, offrant des fonctionnalités similaires sans l'IA intégrée.
Quelle est la position de l'hôte sur le modèle de abonnement mensuel pour Photoshop ?
-L'hôte est critique à l'égard du modèle de abonnement mensuel, car cela oblige les utilisateurs à accepter les décisions d'Adobe, même si elles sont impopulaires.
Quels sont les commentaires des utilisateurs sur Twitter à l'égard des fonctionnalités d'IA de Photoshop ?
-Les commentaires sont largement négatifs, avec des utilisateurs exprimant leur inquiétude et leur désapprobation de l'IA qui fait du travail à la place des artistes.
Quelle est la suggestion finale de l'hôte pour les artistes à propos de Photoshop ?
-L'hôte suggère que les artistes devraient chercher des alternatives à Photoshop, car l'intégration de l'IA pourrait signifier la fin de la nécessité d'avoir des artistes créatifs.
Outlines
🎨 L'intégration de l'IA dans Photoshop
Dans ce paragraphe, les animateurs de Clownish TV abordent l'ajout de nouvelles fonctionnalités d'IA dans Photoshop. Ils discutent de la réticence de l'animateur 'Sparkles' à participer à l'épisode en raison de son manque de connaissances sur l'art et la technologie. L'animateur 'neon' mentionne que Photoshop a intégré des outils d'IA tels que l'AI génératif et les filtres neuronaux, et que la dernière version va jusqu'à permettre la création d'œuvres d'art à partir de simples invites. Cette évolution suscite un mécontentement chez les artistes qui utilisent Photoshop pour la peinture numérique et les bandes dessinées. Les participants débattent sur les implications de l'IA dans la création artistique et la difficulté future à différencier entre l'art créé par un humain et celui généré par l'IA.
🤖 Les réactions des artistes face à l'IA
Dans ce paragraphe, les réactions des artistes à l'intégration de l'IA dans Photoshop sont présentées. Beaucoup d'entre eux sont contre l'utilisation de l'art généré par l'IA et se sentent trahis par Adobe qui favorise l'IA sur les artistes. Les commentaires sur les réseaux sociaux montrent une grande insatisfaction, avec des appels à chercher des alternatives à Photoshop. Certains artistes s'inquiètent de la façon dont l'IA est formée, questionnant si les artistes sont payés pour que leur travail soit utilisé comme outil d'apprentissage pour l'IA. D'autres expriment leur dégoût face à cette évolution, tandis que d'autres encore envisagent de passer à d'autres logiciels comme Clip Studio Paint.
🛑 L'impact de l'IA sur la créativité des artistes
Le troisième paragraphe poursuit le sujet de l'impact de l'IA sur la créativité et la carrière des artistes. Les animateurs discutent de la difficulté à différencier entre l'art créé par un humain et celui généré par l'IA, soulignant que les artistes pourraient devoir prouver qu'ils ont créé leur travail en direct. Ils mentionnent également d'autres logiciels de création graphique, tels que Clip Studio Paint et les alternatives open source, qui pourraient ne pas être aussi avancés dans l'intégration de l'IA, offrant ainsi une échappatoire aux artistes. L'épisode se termine sur une note critique envers Adobe, qui est accusé de ne pas comprendre les besoins de sa clientèle d'artistes créatifs et de compromettre leur avenir professionnel en favorisant l'IA.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡AI
💡Photoshop
💡Générique AI
💡Neural Filters
💡Rétroaction négative
💡Création d'images
💡Artistes numériques
💡Bande-annonce
💡Piratage de logiciels
💡Alternatives à Photoshop
Highlights
Introduction to the discussion on art and technology with a focus on AI tools in Photoshop.
Neon's reluctance to participate in the discussion due to limited knowledge of AI in Photoshop.
Geeks' distinction between traditional art tools and digital tools like Photoshop.
Adobe's integration of AI tools in Photoshop, starting with generative AI fill and neural filters.
The new feature in Photoshop that allows creating artwork from prompts, raising concerns among artists.
Backlash from artists against AI, fearing it undermines their work and skills.
The challenge of distinguishing between AI-generated and original artwork.
The convenience of AI in Photoshop for tasks like background removal and image tweaking.
Neon's appreciation for AI's ability to save time on mundane tasks in digital art.
The Twitter reaction to Adobe's promotion of AI features in Photoshop, with artists expressing their disapproval.
Concerns about AI replacing artists and the ethical implications of using AI in art creation.
Discussion on whether AI in Photoshop is a helpful tool or a threat to artists' originality.
The potential for AI to monitor and learn from artists' techniques, raising privacy concerns.
The impact of Adobe's subscription model on customer loyalty and the ability to switch to alternatives.
Calls for alternatives to Photoshop as a response to the integration of AI features.
The debate on the value of AI in art and whether it enhances or diminishes the artist's role.
Predictions that AI will be incorporated into other art software, changing the landscape of digital art creation.
The conclusion of the discussion, emphasizing the controversy surrounding AI in Photoshop and its future implications.
Transcripts
hey guys welcome back to clownish TV
this is neon I am here with geeky
Sparkles hello and we're going to talk
about one of her favorite things uh art
technology oh yeah so excited she was
even like right before we recorded this
she's like I don't know if I want to be
in this one I didn't want to be but he
made me cuz it's more interesting when
you're here well I don't know if this
one will be cuz I don't know enough much
about it but any you can you can chime
in cuz I I use actual real tools like
pain paper I don't usually use Photoshop
I'm a real artist not a poser I just
don't use Photoshop that much I mean I
can I just don't we're going to we're
going to talk about this CU um this is
not going well for Adobe Adobe has been
adding more and more AI tools to
photoshop in particular and at first it
was just like oh uh you know the um
generative AI fill and oh we've got some
filters that are neural filters I
noticed that in the new version of photo
sh well now they're just like you know
what yeah why just retouch photos and
artwork when we can just create it whole
cloth we'll just make the make it all up
from prompts oh boy and it's not going
well considering the backlash against AI
from a lot of artists that use photosop
to do digital painting and the Color
comic books and to do all other stuff
they're like yeah this is a [ __ ] take
but I you know this goes back to what
we've been saying like you don't have to
agree with AI you don't have to like AI
but it's obviously not going anywhere
when it's being built into Photoshop and
like pretty much everybody who does
digital art uses Photoshop for something
it's it's kind of here to stay but uh I
don't think now would have been a good
time to make such a big deal about this
you know cuz now it's going to be harder
to tell too cuz if you export it as as
like a Photoshop your original you're
quotequote original as a Photoshop file
and you're a digital painter and you
spent like 20 hours doing painting and
somebody's like yeah it's just AI
because you can't really that's true
because everybody's just going to assume
that was just AI yes yeah yeah so it's
it's getting out of hand the AI stuff is
getting way out of hand it is I think
the the uh uh cart is getting away from
the horse I think it's helpful in in
some ways um I actually do appreciate
the uh like you can have it go in and
tweak images or backgrounds but my my
favorite new thing now especially for
thumbnails with Photoshop is the ability
to just knock out the back ground
automatically so if you get an image of
a character or something you're talking
about in the video you can just knock
the background out using AI yeah
remember you do the last oh my God yeah
and then you never got all the pixels
and you never now it's not 100% perfect
but it's pretty damn close and if the
background especially is kind of blurred
out or it's all white or whatever it's
it's perfect it's like just boom remove
background I'm like oh there it is okay
that that's like 20 to 30 minutes of my
time that's saved uh so it that kind of
stuff I think is fine uh tweaking damage
photos you know going in or or extending
photos that kind of stuff I think is
fine this this is not going to go well
we're going to talk about it not a lot
of people are talking about it I just
happen to see it yesterday because I
follow a lot of artists but people are
like yeah you don't know your audience
very well it doesn't seem like a lot of
people are retweeting it or com I mean I
don't know if people know about it I
don't think they do but they're going to
after this video so we're going to talk
about it before we get into it any
further police subscribe for more pop
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you'll get a woohoo woohoo uh I need to
be replaced with AI was a joke we're
going to start aiing this cuz I I I keep
making mistakes I'm like if I were a
computer I wouldn't make the mistakes I
just would talk in
nonsensical fashion about things like I
I do already um anyway this is the uh
the photosop Twitter account and I
noticed it because I think Ben temples
Smith actually who's a comic book
professional he retweeted it uh they
said yeah text to image is Magic guys be
sure to try out the new feature in the
latest Photoshop beta version little
fingers like oh we're so so nervous how
it's going to going to go so yeah you
literally can just a fairy with green
Wings well who the hell wants to spend
20 hours painting a fairy with green
Wings when Photoshop can just do it for
you like this is where we're at right
and that's better than I could do and
the thing is is you're not you're not
going to know the difference in a lot of
cases because let's be honest Hest a lot
of stuff was initially I don't know if
it's still the case now but initially it
was trained on pre-existing artartwork
so and if you've got that you know
you're like oh here's my Photoshop
original so now like for people to be
able to tell that you actually did it
you're probably going to have to show
yourself drawing in real time like do a
capture of you drawing something or
people aren't going to believe it or
just deliberately [ __ ] it up so people
are like oh yeah it was clearly a
human clearly a human just make sure the
the right number of of fingers are on it
they've actually gotten that right too I
say I think they fixed that haven't they
they fixed that so here are some of the
responses we'll got to the retweets but
they've been really pushing this and I I
feel like not enough people are talking
about because you know again when you've
got all these artists that are like you
know we're against uh Wizards of the
Coast using AI art we're against anybody
even using AI art in obvious AI art and
advertising or any of that stuff in any
capacity but Photoshop itself the tool
95% of these people are using has it
built in right now it is going to make
it so hard to
tell um you know what is what is going
on here so yeah uh Ben temples Smith how
destroy your user base in one easy tweet
Pilgrim says this kind of feels like a
kick to kick in the nuts to all those
insanely talented artists who use
Photoshop for concept art yeah promoting
this over actual artists is weird why
would they why wouldn't they they switch
to procreate oh just wait it's coming to
everything guys you're not going to be
able to avoid it no clip studio uh which
is what I use for line art for Comics
clip studio now the new version of it
has some now it's not as extensive as
this it's not like just whole cloth
creating stuff but they do have some new
tools that they're using like
perspective correction I think is one
and you can just like lay down some
color strokes and it'll kind of guess
how you want to color stuff so it might
speed up flatting that kind of stuff I'm
down with cuz I'm like this is just kind
of like time consuming drudgery but like
we're talking Photoshop now is going to
paint everything for
you uh and how is the AI trained do you
pay the artist for having their art used
as a training tool for the AI wouldn't
it be devious if since Photoshop has
been connected to the internet for so
long that they're just watching all
these artists paint they're just taking
note of how you do this how you draw
that like oh yeah yeah that's how you do
how do I cancel my subscription this is
probably AI answering him beep boop bop
hi there we're really sorry for this
frustrating experience would you mind
dming us uh so we can take a look at
your account and see what we can do
happy to help thank
you um could you like not turn a
legitimately bad thing in the memes it's
a bot response yeah it probably is
actually most of the customer service
tweets I've seen lately are AI generated
I'm starting to think the entire company
is just run by Bots now or at least soon
it will be promote the artist not the AI
wow [ __ ] you this is Massie makes Comics
I think they make comics I think they do
uh and I pay for this you have to this
is the thing like Adobe took away the
ability I believe to buy just a
standalone copy of the software years
ago and I remember a lot of people were
upset they're like wait I have to pay a
monthly subscription I'm like yeah this
is exactly why you have to pay a monthly
subscription so when they make unpopular
decisions guess what you're stuck with
it cuz that's how have to switch to
something else you have to switch to
something else to you realize who your
customers are customers and customers
customers well at least we know it's not
AI horrible marketing job uh how can I
cancel my edging subscription would you
mind dming us the exact same thing yes
we're here to help so users have lost
all their creativity can't make anything
and the AI has to do it for them and
answer you know you know questions on
Twitter disgusting disgusting disgusting
disgusting um here's a free alternative
to photoshop so yeah don't forget
Torrance um people are actually calling
for people are calling for Alternatives
and they're they're showing you what the
alternatives are this could actually be
the end of Photoshop because I know a
lot of people were pissed off that they
went to the subscription model and
they're they're rationale for that at
the time it's been like 10 or 12 years
since they pretty much forced you to to
go with uh the Adobe Creative Cloud or
whatever the hell they call it now this
subscription was that so many people
were pirating the
software that like one person was
basically play paying for like 200
people to to have Photoshop which is
they're like that's why it's so
expensive guys that's why Photoshop cost
like at the time it was like $300 to
$700 or whatever it was for a copy of
Photoshop like cuz you're paying for
everybody else who uses it for free that
was like well you know so we're going to
start charging individuals and it was
like well this way we keep you updated
they always have a reason for why you
have to pay monthly for Photoshop and
they keep you know creeping the price up
and now it's like yeah just Photoshop
just does it for you I like too how they
break it down by where you can actually
use it on like you know iOS Windows
Apple you know a lot of people already
have jumped to uh you know [ __ ] and I
know like I said with with uh drawing i
i a long time ago actually switched to
clip Studio because I do mostly comic
art and it was it's better for comic art
because you can actually you know lay
Pages outlay books out in one clip no
pun intended but does animation Stu I
animation people lot of people use TB
bber blender yeah yeah but all these all
these things eventually I hate to be
that guy eventually they're going to
incorporate some degree of AI but again
I feel there's a difference
between helpful uh I guess you I guess
what they call it ethical AI usage
ethical AI usage which is it helps
people make stuff it doesn't do it for
them you're getting a tutor to help you
with your homework so you understand
your homework you're not having them do
it for you you're not paying for the
answers or whatever but even now like
kids are totally doing it right um You
can always pirate Adobe products it's
always morally
correct um Tada D without a d feature a
dumb feature like that dorley dorley hey
Adobe beyond the fact that you're
selling out your loyal paying customers
for the sole purpose of chasing growth
the thing your AI made sucks [ __ ] it's
bad not only are you trying to kill your
customer's chance to earn a living but
you suck at doing it stop
it uh here are Photoshop art uh artworks
made with Photoshop tools like intended
clip St yeah here we go clip Studio
paint is a really good piece of software
by the way I make all my art Commercial
Art included in clip Studio I agree with
you I like clip Studio quite a bit it is
a little dated I mean it's it's it's
very much it would take a lot it would
take a lot to update it to AI then it
would so you're more likely to not be
you know outed by AI anytime soon yeah
so people are pissed I don't understand
the logic in this
um yeah Adobe isn't paying artist for
their are don't pay for Adobe yeah
they're all telling people pirate Adobe
I think this is this is going to be a
huge huge blow because artists and
creatives were the the the biggest user
base for Adobe products they're
basically like yeah we don't even need
the artist anymore we can just we can
just paint [ __ ] without you yeah you can
just put some prompts in anybody can be
a they didn't read the room they didn't
read the room guys uh it's not a good
look not a good look all the all the
tropes we're going to wrap this up yeah
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