AMA #17: Making Time for Fitness, Top Sleep Tools & Best Learning Strategies

Huberman Lab
30 Apr 202425:30

Summary

TLDRIn the latest Huberman Lab podcast, neurobiologist and ophthalmologist Andrew Huberman hosts an AMA (Ask Me Anything) episode, where he addresses frequently asked questions. He begins with an announcement about the premium channel's philanthropic efforts, which now include a 3:1 dollar match for mental health, physical health, and performance research funding. Huberman then dives into a detailed discussion about his foundational fitness protocol, which emphasizes flexibility and adaptability to individual needs and schedules. He outlines a weekly routine involving resistance and cardiovascular training, with an emphasis on the importance of rest and recovery. The protocol is designed to be sustainable and beneficial for long-term health, with options to adjust workouts based on personal circumstances. Huberman also touches on the concept of periodization in training and the importance of listening to one's body and life demands when it comes to exercise consistency. The episode concludes with a reminder about the benefits of subscribing to the Huberman Lab premium channel, which supports further research and provides additional content to subscribers.

Takeaways

  • 🎓 Andrew Huberman is a professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine, discussing science and science-based tools for everyday life.
  • 📈 The Huberman Lab Premium channel offers full-length AMAs (Ask Me Anything) and a portion of the proceeds goes towards funding important human research related to mental, physical health, and performance.
  • 🤝 Huberman Lab has a $3 to $1 match with the Tiny Foundation, amplifying the funding for research, which benefits from every dollar contributed by the premium channel subscribers.
  • 💪 The foundational Fitness protocol is a schedule that includes three resistance training sessions and three cardiovascular training sessions per week, with one complete rest day.
  • 🏋️‍♂️ Resistance training involves working out legs, torso, and small body parts like biceps, triceps, and calves, tailored to individual needs and recovery.
  • 🏃‍♂️ Cardiovascular training includes long slow distance, moderate-paced workouts, and high-intensity interval training (VO2 max) to raise heart rate.
  • 🕒 The protocol emphasizes the importance of not overtraining, suggesting workouts should not exceed 90 minutes for optimal recovery.
  • 🔄 Flexibility is key in the protocol, allowing for workouts to be shifted by a day to accommodate travel, stress, or other life events without compromising health or fitness progress.
  • ☀️ Huberman prefers morning workouts but acknowledges that afternoon workouts can also be beneficial, suggesting personal preference and energy levels should guide the timing.
  • 🧠 The autonomic nervous system can adapt to a consistent workout schedule, leading to increased energy around the usual workout times.
  • 💤 Sleep is prioritized over workouts if feeling fatigued or rundown, emphasizing the importance of rest and recovery in overall health and fitness.

Q & A

  • What is the purpose of the Huberman Lab podcast?

    -The Huberman Lab podcast discusses science and science-based tools for everyday life, focusing on topics related to neurobiology and ophthalmology.

  • What is an AMA episode?

    -An AMA (Ask Me Anything) episode is a format where the host, in this case, Andrew Huberman, answers the most frequently asked questions from his audience.

  • How does subscribing to the Huberman Lab Premium channel benefit research?

    -A significant portion of the proceeds from the premium channel goes to fund important research on humans, aimed at benefiting mental health, physical health, and performance.

  • What is the current match ratio for the Huberman Lab Premium channel philanthropy?

    -The current match ratio is 3 to 1, meaning for every dollar contributed to research, three more dollars are matched.

  • What is the foundational Fitness protocol?

    -The foundational Fitness protocol is a schedule that includes three resistance training sessions and three cardiovascular training sessions per week, with one complete rest day. It is designed to maximize cardiovascular and neuromuscular health with a minimal time commitment.

  • How can I access the foundational Fitness protocol?

    -The foundational Fitness protocol is available for free to everyone. You can access it by following a link in the show note captions or by visiting hubermanlab.com and navigating to the newsletter section.

  • What is the structure of the foundational Fitness protocol?

    -The structure consists of resistance training for legs, torso, and small body parts like biceps, triceps, and calves, along with cardiovascular training that includes long slow distance, moderate duration, and high-intensity interval training sessions.

  • How does Dr. Huberman handle flexibility within his fitness schedule?

    -Dr. Huberman allows for workouts to be moved forward or backward by one day if needed, and sometimes combines two workouts into a single day to maintain consistency. He also emphasizes the importance of rest and recovery.

  • What is the significance of periodization in Dr. Huberman's fitness routine?

    -Periodization involves varying the intensity and volume of workouts over time, which helps prevent plateaus, reduces the risk of injury, and promotes consistent progress.

  • How does Dr. Huberman prioritize his workouts in relation to other life demands?

    -Dr. Huberman suggests aiming to complete workouts 85 to 95% of the time, prioritizing sleep and overall health over workouts when needed, and adjusting the schedule based on individual circumstances and life demands.

  • What is the cost and benefit of subscribing to the Huberman Lab Premium channel?

    -The subscription costs $10 per month or $100 for a full year. Subscribers get access to full-length AMAs, exclusive content, transcripts, and the opportunity to support research for mental health, physical health, and performance.

Outlines

00:00

🎓 Introduction to the Huberman Lab Podcast and Premium Channel Announcement

Andrew Huberman, a neurobiology and opthalmology professor at Stanford, introduces the podcast and announces an exciting development for the Huberman Lab Premium Channel subscribers. The channel's proceeds contribute to funding human research for mental and physical health. Initially, there was a one-for-one match with the Tiny Foundation, but this has now increased to a three-to-one match, amplifying the impact of each dollar contributed to research. Andrew also provides information on how to subscribe to the premium channel and access the full-length AMAs and other exclusive content.

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🏋️‍♂️ Foundational Fitness Protocol Overview

The discussion shifts to the foundational fitness protocol that Andrew has followed for over 30 years. This routine includes three resistance training sessions and three cardiovascular training sessions per week, with one complete rest day. The protocol is flexible, allowing individuals to choose their preferred exercises, including running, rowing, or using a stationary bike. Andrew emphasizes the importance of tailoring the protocol to one's personal needs and capabilities. The protocol is available for free to all listeners, with a PDF guide provided.

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📅 Scheduling and Flexibility in the Foundational Fitness Protocol

Andrew explains the importance of building flexibility into the fitness schedule to accommodate life's unpredictable nature. He describes how to adjust the schedule by sliding workouts forward or backward by a day if needed, and occasionally combining two workouts in a single day to stay on track. The key is to ensure that each week includes three resistance and three cardiovascular sessions. He also addresses the possibility of having to skip a workout occasionally due to various life factors, emphasizing that this will not significantly impact one's fitness progress.

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🌞 Morning Workouts and Personal Preferences

Andrew shares his personal preference for morning workouts, explaining the benefits of consistency and how it can lead to increased energy levels at the scheduled workout times. He also discusses the impact of caffeine on energy levels and suggests experimenting with its timing to avoid afternoon crashes. However, he acknowledges that it's perfectly acceptable to move workouts to the afternoon if the morning schedule doesn't work out, as long as the workout is completed without disrupting nighttime sleep.

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💤 Prioritizing Sleep and Health Over Workouts

Andrew stresses the importance of prioritizing sleep and overall health over squeezing in a workout at the expense of rest. He mentions that while he sometimes sacrifices sleep for a workout, especially when traveling, he won't do so if he's feeling unwell or rundown. He advises listeners to consider their individual circumstances, such as family vacations or high-stress periods, and make a case-by-case decision on whether to prioritize a workout or other aspects of life.

25:07

🔄 Periodization and Premium Channel Subscription Recap

Andrew briefly touches on his belief in periodization, alternating between different rep ranges for weight training over four-month blocks to optimize progress. He then reiterates the purpose of the Huberman Lab Premium Channel, which is to support the standard podcast and fund human-centric research. He outlines the benefits of subscribing to the premium channel, including access to full AMA episodes, transcripts, and exclusive content, and provides instructions on how to sign up at hubermanlab.com/premium.

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Keywords

💡Huberman Lab Podcast

The Huberman Lab Podcast is a platform where neurobiology and ophthalmology professor Andrew Huberman discusses science and science-based tools for everyday life. It is the central theme around which the entire transcript revolves, focusing on answering frequently asked questions and providing insights into health and performance.

💡AMA (Ask Me Anything)

An AMA episode is a format where Professor Huberman answers the audience's most frequently asked questions. It represents an interactive and engaging part of the podcast, allowing for a direct exchange of information and addressing the audience's specific concerns.

💡Foundational Fitness Protocol

The Foundational Fitness Protocol is a schedule that Professor Huberman has followed for over 30 years, which includes specific workouts for different parts of the body and cardiovascular health. It is designed to maximize health with a minimal time commitment and is a key component of the advice given in the podcast.

💡Resistance Training

Resistance training refers to physical exercise that works against an external force or weight to build strength, muscle mass, and endurance. In the context of the video, it is one of the critical elements of the fitness protocol, with specific sessions dedicated to training the legs, torso, and arms.

💡Cardiovascular Training

Cardiovascular training, also mentioned as 'cardio,' involves activities that increase heart rate and improve heart and lung function. The podcast discusses the importance of including various forms of cardio, such as jogging, high-intensity interval training (HIIT), and long slow distance workouts, in the fitness protocol.

💡High-Intensity Interval Training (HIIT)

HIIT is a type of workout where short, intense bursts of activity are alternated with low-intensity recovery periods. It is part of the fitness protocol where the focus is on achieving maximum heart rate for short periods, contributing to improved cardiovascular health and fitness.

💡Flexibility in Scheduling

Flexibility in scheduling is the concept of allowing workout sessions to be moved around based on life demands, ensuring that the fitness routine remains sustainable and adaptable. The transcript emphasizes the importance of not being too rigid with the workout schedule to accommodate travel, rest, and other life events.

💡Periodization

Periodization is a training technique where workouts are varied over time, often changing the intensity and volume to maximize progress and avoid plateaus. Professor Huberman mentions using periodization in his training, alternating between heavy, moderate, and light blocks of resistance training.

💡Sleep Deprivation

Sleep deprivation refers to not getting enough sleep, which can negatively impact physical and mental health. In the context of the video, it is mentioned as a reason one might need to adjust or skip a workout, highlighting the importance of rest and recovery in a fitness regimen.

💡Travel

Travel is mentioned as a common disruptor to a regular workout schedule. The transcript advises on how to adjust the fitness protocol when traveling, emphasizing the need for flexibility and the possibility of combining workouts or altering the schedule to fit the circumstances.

💡Physical Health

Physical health is a state of well-being in which someone enjoys optimal physical function and is free from伤病 (injury or sickness). The entire transcript is centered around improving and maintaining physical health through a science-based fitness protocol, which is tailored to maximize benefits with minimal time investment.

Highlights

Andrew Huberman announces an exciting 3:1 dollar match with the Huberman Lab premium channel philanthropy, amplifying funding for important human health and performance research.

Huberman Lab premium subscribers gain full access to AMA episodes and contribute to mental health, physical health, and performance research funding.

The foundational Fitness protocol is introduced, a schedule followed by Huberman for over 30 years to maximize cardiovascular and neuromuscular health with minimal time commitment.

The protocol includes three resistance training sessions and three cardiovascular training sessions per week, with one complete rest day.

Flexibility is key in the protocol, allowing for workouts to be shifted by a day to accommodate life's demands without compromising health benefits.

Huberman emphasizes the importance of listening to one's body and allowing for rest when necessary, even suggesting the occasional complete skip of a workout.

The protocol is adaptable, with options for different types of cardiovascular exercises and resistance training tailored to the individual's needs and preferences.

A detailed PDF of the foundational Fitness protocol is available for free to the public, regardless of subscription status.

The importance of outdoor activities and social engagement in fitness routines is discussed, highlighting the versatility of the Sunday long cardio workout.

Huberman shares personal preferences for morning workouts and the potential benefits of delaying caffeine intake for those who experience afternoon energy crashes.

The concept of entrainment is introduced, explaining how the autonomic nervous system can anticipate and prepare for regular workout times.

Periodization in training is recommended, with blocks of heavier and lighter weight training to optimize progress and prevent plateaus.

Huberman advises on the balance between rigidity and flexibility in a fitness schedule, aiming for consistency while allowing for life's unpredictability.

The premium channel is positioned as a way to support the standard podcast while funding human-based research for mental, physical health, and performance.

Subscribers to the premium channel receive additional benefits such as transcripts of AMAs, exclusive protocols, and supporting critical research.

Huberman encourages a commitment level of 85-95% to workouts, suggesting that occasional missed sessions do not significantly impact overall fitness progress.

The importance of prioritizing sleep and overall well-being over rigid workout schedules is emphasized for long-term health and progress.

Transcripts

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welcome to the huberman Lab podcast

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where we discuss science and

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science-based tools for everyday

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life I'm Andrew huberman and I'm a

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professor of neurobiology and

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Opthalmology at Stanford school of

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medicine today is an askme anything or

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AMA episode but before I get to

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scheduling Fitness that is how to ensure

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that you get sufficient number of

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resistance training and cardiovascular

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workouts per week in order to best

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benefit your immediate and long-term

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Health now I did episode of The hubin

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Lab podcast all about what I call a

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foundational Fitness protocol the

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foundational Fitness protocol is the one

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that I've followed more or less for the

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last 30 plus years and it certainly is

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not the only protocol that works out

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there but it's a schedule that most

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people can adhere to over time and that

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checks off the boxes for what the

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current research tells us we need in

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order to maximize our cardiovascular

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health to maximize our neuromuscular

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health and to do so with a minimal time

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commitment now I've already put together

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and I provide a link in the show note

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captions for the foundational Fitness

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protocol in the form of a PDF which

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spells out which workouts are done on

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which days what the various workouts

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look like including sets and Reps what

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options you have in terms of

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cardiovascular exercise I personally

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like to run but you could also use a

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rower you can use a stationary bike

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there's a lot of optionality inside of

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the foundational Fitness protocol and by

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the way the foundational Fitness

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protocol is available to all of you

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completely zero cost you don't even need

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to sign up for our neural network

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newsletter although you can if you like

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and again you can find that by following

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a link in the show note captions or

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simply going to hubman lab.com going to

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the menu tab scrolling down to

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newsletter and then you can scroll down

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to the foundational Fitness protocol you

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can view it online print it out again

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doesn't cost anything and there's no

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barrier to entry meaning you don't need

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to do anything to access it you can just

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look at it or download it or print it

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whatever you like the basic structure of

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the foundational Fitness protocol is

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three resistance training sessions per

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week and three cardiovascular training

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sessions per week and then one complete

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rest day now that might sound like a lot

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to some of you but in fact none of the

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workouts is particularly long I think

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the longest workout in that entire

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foundational Fitness protocol is about

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60 minutes maybe 75 minutes if you're

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moving slowly through the gym because

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somebody else is in the way or because

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you're you know checking your phone a

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little too often as we all sometimes do

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that sort of thing but the basic

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structure is as follows for me the

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foundational Fitness protocol starts as

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day one on Monday but you could start it

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as day one on any day of the week

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frankly so day one for me is to train

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legs so that's quadriceps hamstrings and

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calves and tibialis work the front of

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the shin uh for those of you that uh

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don't know I'm a big fan of doing

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tibialis work then the next day is a

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complete day off during which you could

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do if you wanted something like

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deliberate heat or deliberate cold

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exposure or both but you don't have to

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it's just nice to have a complete day

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off after training legs because if you

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train legs properly often times it can

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be a bit tiring and the next day you're

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recovering then the following day is

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either a cardiovascular training session

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of about 20 to 30 minutes of say a jog

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at a slightly more rapid clip than one

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would consider Zone 2 cardio Zone 2

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cardio is where you can carry out a

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conversation so a little bit faster than

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that or if you're not feeling like your

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legs are recovered enough to do that you

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could do the resistance training work on

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that day the resistance training work

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that falls in the middle of the week is

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Believe It or Not torso I know that's

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for some of you that are into more kind

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of bodybuilding type routines training

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your entire torso on one day might seem

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like a lot but really that day just

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involves some pushing so some overhead

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shoulder press type workouts or dips

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maybe some bench presses if that's your

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thing as well as some pulling so some

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rows and some pull-ups or chin-ups

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things of that sort again all tailored

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to you so that you're not doing anything

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that aggravates any pre-existing

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injuries and you're not going to do

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anything that's going to induce injuries

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okay so there's some pushing and pulling

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maybe a little bit of neck work if you

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need some additional neck strength that

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sort of thing so with legs on Monday

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rest on Tuesday that falls either on

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Wednesday or Thursday depending on how

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recovered your legs were then the next

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day which for me typically falls on a

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Friday is a high-intensity interval

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training session although really it's

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just about VO2 max it's about getting

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maximum heart rate where you're

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breathing really really hard and that's

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a very short workout the total duration

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of that workout is anywhere from 8 to 15

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minutes total so for me it involves

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getting on an airdine bike those are

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those bikes with some resistance cuz

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there's a fan although you could do this

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on a row or basically anything where you

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can exert yourself to get your heart

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rate way way up and breathe very very

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hard where not going to injure your

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muscular skeletal system you're not

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going to do any soft tissue damage so

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you need to figure out what that is for

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you again the PDF explains how to select

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that for me it typically means getting

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on the airdine bike and pedaling very

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hard for about 20 seconds then resting

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10 seconds 20 seconds hard 10 seconds

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rest 20 seconds hard for a total of

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about eight Cycles by the end of which

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I'm breathing extremely hard my heart

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rate is way way up and then I'll just

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shower and head about my day and then

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the following day which typically for me

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falls on a Saturday although again we're

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going to talk about flexibility and how

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to build flexibility into the schedule

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the Saturday workout is typically things

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like biceps triceps some calves maybe a

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bit more neck work and some abdominal

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work excuse me so basically small body

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parts that can recover pretty quickly

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and that workout typically takes only

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about 45 to 50 minutes maybe 60 minutes

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maximum and then the following day which

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is of course Sunday is a day in which I

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try and get outside and move as much as

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possible so I'll typically do the longer

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Sunday cardio workout as either a rock

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so a backpack with a weight in it by the

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way if you don't own a ruck sack you can

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just put a you know a gallon water a jug

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in there full and then you know drink it

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as you go it'll lighten as you go or you

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could get a weight vest if you have the

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resources to do that there's some great

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weight vests out there um a varying

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weight uh you can uh throw a kid on your

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shoulders if you got a kid that wants to

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be carried on your shoulders um you can

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do it alone listening to an Audi book

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listening to music or in total silence

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I've done all these various versions by

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the way you can do it with family

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members or with friends I'll sometimes

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do this with my significant other one of

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the great things about this long Sunday

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workout is that it's extremely flexible

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in terms of how social you are or uh

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whether or not you do it in isolation

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whether or not you do it on concrete or

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on dirt it's very versatile for instance

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if I have friends over and I want to

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spend time with them but I also want to

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get outdoors and do this workout and if

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they're interested in getting some

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outdoor movement as well we'll all just

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head out for a hike and if they are less

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fit than I am or intend to move more

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slowly well then I'll throw on a you

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know a 10 or 15 maybe even 30 lb um

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backpack so that I get a good workout

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out of it and if they're faster than I

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am and they're the sort of person who

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you know is a triathlete I've got some

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friends who are triathletes and they

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want to move at a really fast clip well

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then I'm not bringing any weight pack

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and I'm just going to ask them to you

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know uh wait up for me because I'm going

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to have a hard time keeping up but I'll

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have to really push myself as I go along

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so a lot of Versatility I don't measure

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my heart rate during any of these

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workouts by the way that's not my

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preferred way to do things I know other

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people like to measure heart rate as

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they go I find it's just really nice to

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get out once a week if possible out ofd

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doors and just move my body as much as

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possible so that I head into the week

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knowing that I got some really terrific

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outdoor time in nature while benefiting

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my cardiovascular system and often while

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socializing with important people in my

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life as well okay so that's the summary

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of the foundational Fitness protocol and

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one thing that I really like about it is

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that the total time commitment is

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actually not that great if you step back

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from it you realize there's you know a

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brief 12-minute workout there's an

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hourong weight training workout there's

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a long hike sure but then there's a

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20-minute jog it's really not that much

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time when you consider the overall

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benefits to one's Health now one very

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important feature of the foundational

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Fitness protocol is to build some

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flexibility into it you know the way I

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described it up until now was okay

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Monday legs Tuesday rest Wednesday

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cardio Thursday torso Friday

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high-intensity interval training VO2 max

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Saturday small body parts biceps triceps

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calves Etc Sunday long slow distance

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cardio but in reality sometimes I have

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to travel on a Monday so I don't have

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the option to train legs that day in

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which case what I will do is either

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slide that workout to

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Sunday meaning I'm doing both long slow

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distance cardio and the leg workout or

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I'll slide it to Tuesday which is

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typically a rest day however sometimes

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I'm traveling on a Monday I don't have

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access to a gym to train my legs

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properly so what do I do do I skip leg

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day no I don't skip leg day typically

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unless I'm sick or I'm extremely sleep

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deprived or there's some other major

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stress in my life what I'll typically do

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is I will plan for it by training my

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legs on Sunday or if I don't have access

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to a place where I can train my legs

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properly on Sunday I'll just shift it to

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Tuesday okay now the question always

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becomes if I were to move that leg

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workout to Sunday just by way of

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necessity because I'm traveling on a

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Monday do I also do the long slow

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distance work that I typically do on

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Sunday and the answer is yes if I'm well

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rested so if I'm well rested and well

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fed I'm not feeling like I'm fighting

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off any kind of illness and I have the

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time what I'll do is I'll train my legs

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in the gym on Sunday and then I'll head

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out for I don't know an hourlong walk in

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the neighborhood or something like that

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so I'm probably not training my legs

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hard and then going hiking hard all day

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although I've done that before but then

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I'm sure to rest completely the next day

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which is Monday now what if I move the

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leg workout to Tuesday do then I take

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Wednesday off completely

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well for me the way I train legs is

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typically with a lot of intensity so if

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I'm going to train legs typically the

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next day will be a complete day off no

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matter what but that's not always the

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case I think as long as you're not

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moving your workouts around constantly

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it's perfectly fine to train your legs

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really hard on a Tuesday because you

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have to because you couldn't train them

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on Monday and then on Wednesday rather

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than go out for a jog I might train

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torso and I might back off on the

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intensity a little bit and then I'll

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take a day off I will say that anytime I

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do resistance training workouts two days

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in a row I make sure that I take a

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complete day off the following third day

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just for sake of recovery I'm not

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somebody that recovers particularly well

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from any form of exercise I find that if

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I train longer than 90 minutes

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especially with resistance training if I

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crank up the intensity too much I tend

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to get sick or I tend to stop making

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progress with my resistance training

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sessions so the basic takeaway here is

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it's perfectly fine to slide a

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resistance training session such as legs

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forward a day or back a day okay so I

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guess back a day would be from Monday to

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Sunday or forward from Monday to Tuesday

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but then you're going to want to make

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some adjustments accordingly so that you

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don't get sick or you don't overtrain

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and that sort of thing now let's say

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that I train my legs on Tuesday then I

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do torso work on Wednesday and then I

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take the next day completely off so I

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take Thursday completely off well then

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Friday rolls around and I haven't done

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any cardiovascular training that week

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except for the walk that I did on Sunday

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what am I going to do do I do my V2 Max

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and a 30-minute jog sure that's what I

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would do I would combine the two

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cardiovascular workouts that I normally

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do in the middle of the week by for

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instance going out for a 20 or 30 minute

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Jog and then at the end doing some V2

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Max work such that by the end of Friday

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I'm caught up with that cardiovascular

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training and then on Saturday I would

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just go right ahead and do those small

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body parts training and then on Sunday I

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would take a hike and that sort of thing

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so basically what I'm saying is the

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foundation Fitness protocol provides a

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scaffold of Ideal what you would do if

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you had a completely non-negotiable

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mindset where you said okay Monday's

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always legs Wednesday is always this

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Thursday is always that so basically

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what I'm describing is trying to achieve

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optimal right training certain things on

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certain days doing certain things in

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certain ways that wasn't meant to rhyme

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by the way but the reality is we all

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have travel we all get run down we all

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have lack of sleep at times we have

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stressful episodes in life so for me the

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best solution to that is to basically

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allow any one workout either resistance

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training or cardiovascular workout to

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slide back or forward by one day which

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means sometimes doubling up on workouts

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for a given day to make sure that I

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check off those boxes of getting three

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resistance training sessions per week

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and three cardiovascular training

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sessions per week again for the

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cardiovascular training sessions it's a

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long slow distance it's a moderate 20 a

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30 minute cardiovascular training

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session and then it's that shorter VO2

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max cardiovascular training s and

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sometimes doubling those up on the same

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day so that I make sure that by the end

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of the week I've achieved what I want to

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achieve which is I've trained my legs

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I've trained my torso I've trained my

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arms any small body parts that need

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additional work for balance or

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stabilization or aesthetic reasons you

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get that in but also that you get the

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base of the long slow distance endurance

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you get the slightly more intense or

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rather faster cardiovascular training

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session and then you get your heart rate

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up up up at least once per week doing

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that high-intensity interval training

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now as I describ this I realized that I

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might be taking what a few minutes ago

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was fairly simple in design and making

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it more complex why well some people

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feel that as soon as you introduce

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flexibility into a schedule you remove

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of course the non-negotiable aspect of

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it and then people get really confused

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are they overtraining are they under

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trining is it okay for instance if you

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can't train Monday Tuesday Wednesday to

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then just train Thursday Friday Saturday

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Sunday I think everybody is an

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individual everybody needs to modify

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their schedule Accord according to the

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demands on their life and their

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particular Fitness needs but I will say

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this I've found having tried many many

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different Fitness schedules many many

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different combinations of resistance

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training and cardiovascular training

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that the best solution is to find what

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you can do on a consistent basis and to

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try and do that as many days and weeks

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of the year as possible with the

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understanding that sometimes you're

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simply not going to be able to meet that

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schedule which is why you allow for this

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sliding back and forward of individual

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workouts doubling occasionally two

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workouts per day in order to stay on

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schedule but and this is very important

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also allowing yourself to sometimes just

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skip a training day yes I said it so

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sometimes just skip a training day

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you're feeling a little rundown it's

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late in the day you don't want to drink

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caffeine to train because then it's

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going to throw off your sleep well I'm

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the first person to say you know Skip

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torso training day and then maybe on

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small body parts day which for me falls

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on Saturday instead of just doing biceps

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triceps with some isolation exercises

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make sure you do a few chins pull-ups

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dips and things like that to make sure

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that you hit those torso muscles as well

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skipping a workout every once in a while

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is not going to Crater your entire

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fitness program it's simply not that

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said for sake of physical health and for

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sake of just feeling good about your

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commitment and follow-through to your

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fitness regimen you should try on

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average to make somewhere between 85 and

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95% of your workouts and if you schedule

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things well and in particular if you

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leave your phone out of the gym uh if

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you're able to do that I know sometimes

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we need the phone to communicate with

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people or the potential to communicate

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with people if people need to get a hold

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of us but if you can leave your phone

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outside of the gym you'll be amazed at

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how quickly you move through these

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workouts likewise with your

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cardiovascular training sessions now one

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important feature of flexibility that I

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haven't talked about yet is flexibility

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within a day so for me just personally

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again this is my personal preference

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this is by no means Dogma I prefer to

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get my workouts done first thing in the

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morning so I like to get up hydrate get

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some electrolytes in my system get some

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caffeine in my system if I'm going to

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work out that's right I said it I do

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believe if you experience a crash in

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energy in the afternoon delaying your

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caffeine by about 90 minutes or so after

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waking could be very beneficial I know

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there's some controversy around that but

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almost everybody that tries it finds

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that that's the case again no obligation

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to do that it's just a suggestion to you

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know perhaps experiment with if you have

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an afternoon crash but for me and I

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think for most people if you're going to

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workout first thing in the morning and

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you like caffeine before a workout drink

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caffeine for first thing in the morning

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that's certainly what I do if I'm going

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to work out that day I like to have my

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workouts done before 9:00 a.m. and

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ideally before 8:30 a.m. so that I can

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move into my workday however there are

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days where that simply doesn't happen

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and then the question is is it okay to

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move a workout from its typical time

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like for me 7:30 a.m. or so to the

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afternoon and the answer is yes there's

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simply no reason why that's not okay

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it's not going to cause a significant

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diminishment in performance if anything

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that data point to the fact that for

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sake of physical performance and output

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workouts in the afternoon are probably

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more beneficial I don't know about that

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result I mean that's certainly what the

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data say I know for me I'm most alert

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and have the most amount of energy first

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thing in the morning and so that's when

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my workouts tend to be best but if I

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can't make a workout in the morning I'll

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sometimes do it in the afternoon around

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2:00 or 3 p.m. making sure however that

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I don't consume so much caffeine before

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that workout that it's going to disrupt

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my sleep now there's another feature of

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training which is like sunlight like

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meals like

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socialization physical exercise provides

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an entrainment mechanism that is a

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predictive mechanism for your so-called

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autonomic nervous system that makes it

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such that at a given hour of the day

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that you normally train so for me around

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7:30 a.m. or so you'll notice that

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there's going to be a peak in physical

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and mental energy that's right if you

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work out at a given time pretty

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consistently your autonomic nervous

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system will start to anticipate that

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timing and you'll start to feel an

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increase in energy around that time that

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is not an imagined thing it's a real

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thing it's a short-term entrainment as

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we call it this is something that I'll

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probably visit in a future full length

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episode of The hubman Lab podcast but

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what you'll notice is that around the

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time that you normally train or run or

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whatever you want to call it you start

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to feel an increase in energy and you

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can leverage that by going ahead and

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training but if you don't have the

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opportunity to train then I do think

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it's a good idea to still get that

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training session in at a later time

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during the day if you have the

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opportunity otherwise you may have to

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slide it to uh the day before or the day

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after as we talked about a few minutes

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ago or you may have to skip entirely the

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point here is that it's always going to

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be best to complete the workout if you

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can complete the workout safely and

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without disrupting your nighttime sleep

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I think that's really the biggest

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takeaway I personally am not going to

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compromise sleep and my overall health

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in order to get workouts in every once

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in a while I'll force myself to wake up

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especially early meaning I'll cash out a

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couple hours of sleep that I would

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normally get so I normally get up around

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I don't know 6:00 a.m. or 6:30 kind of

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depends on when I went to sleep but

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sometimes I'll give up 2 hours as sleep

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to get a workout in in the morning if

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I'm going to fly that day I will

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sometimes do that however if I'm very

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fatigued if I've been exposed to colds

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and flu I'm feeling kind of rundown then

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I won't do that I'll prioritize sleep

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most of the time I prioritize sleep but

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there are those occasions in which I'll

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prioritize the workout each and all of

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us have those options and my suggestion

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is to really look at things on a Case by

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case meaning you as an individual and on

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a daily basis taking into account what

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happened the day before how stressed you

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are how much sleep you're getting how

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much Expos exposure to colds and flu and

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to pay attention to how hard you've been

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training recently you know if you're on

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a family vacation and you want more time

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with family are you really going to

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compromise time with family in order to

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get your workouts in I think that would

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be probably a bad idea you know if I'm

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honest I think um you want to prioritize

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social life that's super important but

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then of course you don't want to

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prioritize social life to the detriment

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of your physical health so it's all a

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bit of give and take and what I've tried

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to describe here is again a recap of the

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foundational Fitness protocol the places

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where there's some flexibility you can

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move workouts back a day or forward a

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day if you like you could double up if

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you like especially if you're getting

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great rest and you're well fed Etc and

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you can also move the workout up or down

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in the day depending on how much energy

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you have how much sleep you've gotten

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and of course how you know rigid you are

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with yourself some people are just

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really rigid they are completely in the

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non-negotiable stance they get their

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workout in no matter what because they

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feel as if they don't then they're going

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to be grumpy or they're going to fall

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off schedule other people like me try to

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get the workouts done I would say

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anywhere from 85 to 95% of the time I

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get those workouts done occasionally I

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skip them typically because life stress

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travel or some sort of low-grade um

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illness you know a cold or a flu or

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something of that sort I get those

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pretty rarely but they do happen so

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that's really how I answer this question

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of how to build flexibility into one's

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fitness schedule I should also mention

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that I'm a big believer in periodization

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so I will do four-month blocks of

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training heavier with the weights so

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that's in the 3 to 5 repetition range

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then another 3 to four month block will

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follow where I'm training slightly less

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heavy so I'll typically be using

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anywhere from 5 to 8 repetition range

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and then for the next four month block

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I'll be using somewhere between 8 and 15

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repetition range every once in a while

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I'll mix it up so that you know if I've

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been training heavy a lot I might do a

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lighter workout or if I've been training

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lighter I might do a heavy workout again

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not super rigid I personally find that

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by being strict and rigid about the

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scheduling about the Reps and the sets

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etc for most of the time meaning about

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85 to 95% of workouts and across the

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year that things just work out great

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you'll make constant progress without

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having to drive yourself and everybody

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else crazy with uh extreme rigidity and

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compulsivity around training and then of

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course you can enjoy those days off you

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can enjoy the flexibility in your

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schedule because yes physical fitness is

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wonderful but unless you're an athlete

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especially a professional athlete really

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physical fitness is about being able to

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lean into other aspects of life with

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more Vigor at least that's what it's

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