DNB vs MD/MS - The TRUTH (NEET PG 2024)
Summary
TLDRIn this video, Dr. Ric duer addresses common concerns regarding the DNB (Diplomate of National Board) program, particularly for medical students unsure whether to pursue an MD or DNB at their rank. He discusses the importance of choosing the right branch over the college's reputation, the dilemma of whether to retake exams or accept a DNB position, and provides insights on making an informed decision about the hospital for DNB training. Dr. duer also shares his personal experience and offers advice on factors to consider when selecting a DNB hospital, emphasizing the need for hands-on experience and infrastructure.
Takeaways
- 😌 The speaker has been receiving many questions about DNB (Diplomate of National Board), especially regarding whether to pursue MD or DNB at certain ranks.
- 🏥 The speaker advises visiting hospitals to decide on a DNB hospital, emphasizing the importance of firsthand experience.
- 📈 With a rank of 5,700, the speaker was initially unsure about pursuing MD Medicine but eventually chose DNB after discussions with seniors and research.
- 🌟 The speaker stresses that the branch of study should be the top priority when choosing between MD and DNB, as it impacts one's career long-term.
- 🤔 The decision to take a drop (retake the exam) is personal and depends on individual circumstances and confidence in improving the rank.
- 🚫 The speaker warns against compromising on the branch for the sake of getting into a 'good' medical college.
- 🏆 For those who rank within 5K, it's advised to take the DNB in their first choice of branch, even if it's a first attempt.
- 🔄 If the rank is between 5K to 10K and it's the first attempt, considering a drop might be reasonable if there's strong motivation to improve.
- 🚑 For high-end branches like Medicine, DM, and Radio, if the rank is above 10K, the speaker suggests considering a drop if the goal is a prestigious institute.
- 📉 The passing percentage for DNB is lower and considered tougher than MD, but the speaker believes primary DNB candidates are well-prepared.
- 🏥 The speaker suggests visiting potential DNB hospitals to understand their offerings and not just rely on previous year's trends or rankings.
Q & A
What are the common doubts and questions regarding DNB that the speaker has been receiving?
-The speaker has been receiving doubts and questions about DNB, particularly whether to pursue MD or DNB at certain ranks, the difficulty level and pass percentage of DNB, and details about the course curriculum including academics, rounds, and hands-on experience.
What is the speaker's advice for selecting a DNB hospital?
-The speaker advises visiting the hospitals you are considering, especially those within your rank range, to get a firsthand experience and understand what each hospital offers.
Why was the speaker initially confused about their rank of 5,700?
-The speaker was initially confused because they wanted to pursue medicine, but with a rank of 5,700, they realized they wouldn't get into MD medicine at a decent hospital, which led to the consideration of other options like MD Pediatrics or taking a drop.
What was the speaker's final decision regarding pursuing DNB or taking a drop after their internship?
-After considering their options and discussing with seniors, the speaker decided to pursue DNB instead of taking a drop, as they felt it was the right decision at the time.
What is the most important factor to consider while approaching DNB counseling, according to the speaker?
-The most important factor to consider while approaching DNB counseling is the branch of study, as it will stay with you for your lifetime and is more important than the city or the type of college.
What is the speaker's opinion on taking a drop after not getting a desired rank in the first attempt?
-The speaker believes that taking a drop is a personal decision and depends on individual circumstances. They suggest considering factors like the rank, the branch, and personal motivation before deciding.
How does the speaker feel about the pass percentage for DNB exams?
-The speaker acknowledges that the pass percentage for DNB exams is lower and it is tougher to pass compared to MD, but they also mention that primary DNB students prepare for it seriously as it is their degree exam.
What are the key points the speaker suggests considering when deciding to take DNB or MD in high-end branches?
-The speaker suggests considering factors like the desire to practice or pursue super speciality (DM), the quality of the hospital and its facilities, and the potential for learning and exposure in the chosen branch.
Why does the speaker recommend visiting hospitals before deciding on a DNB program?
-The speaker recommends visiting hospitals to get a clear understanding of what each hospital offers, as different hospitals have different pros and cons, and to make an informed decision based on personal priorities.
What is the speaker's advice for those who are considering DNB in branches like medicine, dermatology, or radio diagnosis?
-For high-end branches like medicine, dermatology, or radio diagnosis, the speaker advises considering a drop if the rank is above 10K and the desired branch is not available, or taking DNB from a good city and institute if the rank is between 5 to 10K.
Outlines
🎓 Deciding Between MD and DNB
The speaker begins by addressing the common dilemma faced by medical students regarding whether to pursue an MD or DNB degree, especially at certain ranks. They discuss the difficulty of passing the DNB exam and the overall curriculum, including academics, rounds, and exposure. The speaker shares their personal experience of choosing a hospital for DNB, emphasizing the importance of visiting hospitals to make an informed decision. They recount their own journey, including their rank and the decision-making process, and how they gathered information about DNB from seniors and hospitals. The speaker concludes by introducing themselves as Dr. Ric duer and stating the video's focus on helping viewers approach counseling for DNB, with a focus on choosing the right branch as the top priority.
🤔 Navigating the Decision to Take a Drop or Pursue DNB
Dr. Ric duer delves into the complex decision of whether to take a drop year to improve exam scores or to proceed with DNB. They discuss the uncertainty and personal nature of this choice, sharing their own initial hesitation and the influence of peers and circumstances. The speaker acknowledges the increased competition and the pressure it puts on students, but ultimately suggests that the decision should be based on personal goals and confidence. They provide guidance on how to approach this decision, considering factors like rank, desired branch, and the potential for improvement. The speaker also touches on the implications of DNB versus MD for future job opportunities and the public perception of the degrees.
🏥 Choosing the Right DNB Hospital
In the final paragraph, Dr. Ric duer advises on selecting a DNB hospital, cautioning against relying solely on last year's rankings and cut-offs. They emphasize the importance of visiting potential hospitals to understand what each has to offer, as different hospitals provide varied experiences and opportunities. The speaker discusses the benefits and drawbacks of different hospitals and the need to make a personal decision based on individual priorities, such as academic interest, exposure, and facilities. They also address the passing rate for DNB exams, suggesting that while it may be lower than for MD, the primary DNB students are typically well-prepared. The speaker concludes by encouraging viewers to visit hospitals, make informed decisions, and reach out with any counseling-related questions.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡DNB
💡MD
💡Rank
💡Drop
💡Branch
💡Hospital
💡Pass Percentage
💡Academics
💡Exposure
💡Counseling
Highlights
Discussion on choosing between MD or DNB based on rank and personal preferences.
Addressing concerns about the pass percentage and difficulty in passing DNB exams.
Insights on the DNB curriculum, including academics, rounds, and interactive learning.
Guidance on selecting a DNB hospital, emphasizing the importance of personal visits.
Personal experience sharing by Dr. Ric duer on choosing DNB over MD.
Importance of prioritizing the branch of study over the hospital or college for DNB.
Advice on whether to take a drop year based on exam rank and personal goals.
Comparison of DNB and MD in terms of job opportunities and professional perception.
Recommendations for those with ranks between 5K to 10K on choosing DNB or MD.
Discussion on the passing rate of primary DNB exams and the preparation strategy.
Advantages of DNB in terms of pursuing higher education like DM.
Comparison of DNB and MD for those who wish to practice medicine without super speciality.
Importance of hands-on experience and infrastructure in medical colleges for learning.
Strategies for selecting a DNB hospital based on personal visits and rank range.
Emphasis on making informed decisions when choosing a DNB hospital.
Encouragement for viewers to ask questions and engage in the comment section for further counseling.
Transcripts
so hello everyone so lately I've been
receiving a lot of doubts and messages
regarding DNB especially like if at a
certain rank they should go for MD or
DNB and second most popularly asked
question about the pass percentage like
whether it is really difficult to pass
DNB and also about the course like
academics like
rounds
interactive
leur so about the overall curriculum
like exposure hands on and about the
hospitals like which hospital to take so
especially Hospital a lot of Juniors
have come to visit in my hospital so I
have met them like and that's the right
way to select a dnv hospital firstly
like you should visit hospitals
especially the hospitals which you are
thinking you might get like so last year
I got a rank of 5,700 and I was really
confused because I wanted to take
medicine like medicine was always my
first option and like but my second
third option was like any medical Branch
like I was very sure that I wanted a
medical Branch but yeah medicine was my
first option so when I got a rank of
5,700 so I realized like I'm not going
to get at a MD medicine at a decent
hospital so I was like pretty I was sure
I don't I can't take MD medicine like
with this score right now so I was
discussing with a lot of seniors like
whether I should go for MD Pediatrics or
should I take a drop because that was my
attempt with internship so definitely I
thought like if I'll give some time then
I can probably improve so at that time I
did not know much about DNB like I have
heard of dnv but I did not know much
about DMV so then like I came across the
lot of people suggested to me like dnv
like medical branches and then I started
doing my research like I Then I then
after that I met a lot of people at
various gnb hospitals in Mumbai and then
after finishing my internship I came to
Delhi then I met lot of dnbs in Deli
Hospital also so after being in DNB for
one year I would like to share my
experience and like how it you can use
it to approach your your counseling so
yeah hello everyone I'm Dr Ric duer
welcome to my channel in this video I'm
going to talk about like about
approaching your counseling in terms of
DNB so while approaching for counseling
the most important thing is Branch so
the first most important thing is Branch
like above City beat mdnb or beat any
government Medical College the first
priority should always be a branch so
like it's not like that if you're
getting a certain Branch at a very good
government hospital so you will take
that branch no it's a different thing
like if for someone if it does not work
out and they have to compromise on
Branch that's a totally different thing
but I'm saying that if you have an
option like if you are getting MD at a
peripheral college but you are getting
MD medicine at a peripheral college but
you are getting MD pediatrics at a good
college let's say and you want to stay
in a good college so do not compromise
on Branch so for example I receiv
received this comment like where they
were
medri so in that scenario I suggest
definitely go for dnv medicine so
because what happens is that like know
whatever course or like college or
Hospital you are choosing like that
stays with you for 3 years but your
branch is going to stay with you like
for your lifetime so especially if it's
a clinical Branch like you have to give
your day and night for the rest of your
life to that Branch so yeah of course
branch is a very so of course Branch
should be the first thing before
deciding so in krux if you getting DNB
in your first choice of Branch go for
DNB rather than going for your second
choice of branch and secondly I would
like to talk about whether or not one
should take a drop like there's no
clearcut answer for this like there's
nobody can decided for you like this is
the criteria to take a drop or not Jo
even after joining the NB I initially
thought of taking a drop and like I was
little not so I was little afraid of
taking a drop so I thought like let's
just give it another try along with DNB
so though I was happy with the hospital
but I was not satisfied with my need PG
score and frankly I felt like you know
intern a lot of my friends were
preparing so I
thought because when I joined hospital
so
mostly so I really felt that after
joining but the point was that
so the point is that it's a really it's
really like a trap you know you'll never
feel like you have given you 100 100%
and back then I was feeling like I
should have given try but now but now
this year when exam happened like so
many postponements happen
and so then I felt probably
especially because the competition has
increased so much this year so I think
so now I feel that I made the right
decision of taking DNB so it's like a
there's no clear-cut answer to it like
it just you have to go with your gut
feeling like what you want in life so
that even if you feel later on that no
that was not the right decision but at
least you will be very sure of it that
it was your own decision so of course if
you take a drop
so if I'm talking about like if you have
ranked 8K 7K 9k so you take that like
you take that belief in your so that you
believe in yourself and then take a drop
and there are many examples impr and
there are many
examples so of
course then they take next year so of
course that is a very bad space to be
[Laughter]
because so yeah it has to be a totally
personal decision but still like what
how you can approach to it is like so if
it was your drop attempt and you are
getting your desired branch no matter
like DNB MD just take it like don't
overthink it
college so don't if you're getting your
Desir brch then take it second option is
like if it was a first attempt so if
your rank is within 5K even if you want
radio Derma medicine so like I think so
within 5K like it's very risky to take a
drop so if within 5K if you are not
getting good MD especially for these
branches like MD like dma radio or
medicine because for other branches you
will get a good government Medical
College within 5,000 but for these
branches you definitely can take DMVs
from good cities secondly for someone
with a rank of 5 to
10K in their first attempt so when you
are at a 5 to 10K rank especially with
your internship a part of you is really
motivated and feels
confident 5 to 10 manage maybe next year
you can improve a lot that is a good
enough reason like if you have dream and
passion for doing it in the best
possible manner but there's a practical
side to it also like if your rank is 6k
7K and after improve
Pro because at the end of the day at 23k
you will again be confused MD L DMB l in
branches like radio Derma and medicine
and if you want other branches so you
could have taken it at 68 6 to 8K so
what I feel is that like up to 5K just
take it whether if it was a first
attempt or not so from 5 to 10K like huh
when you feel like you know the you feel
like you have managed to score 5 to 10K
rank with internship and you can really
do better next year so yeah if you
really feel that you should give a try
because you know what
canot yeah I could have done it so you
if it's your personal choice so if your
rank is above 10K and if you wanted
highend branches like I would not
suggest you to join that year because
DNB especially in branches so that will
be very periphery so there's no point
like especially if it was your first
attempt like above 10K if your desired
branches are like medicine dma radio
Pediatrics you can think of taking a
drop and if you wanted branches which
are available above 10K like ENT Opel or
even parac clinical branches so you
would definitely go for it for the
people between 5 to 10K rank who wants
these high-end branches so I would like
to make some points like so that it will
help you whether to whether you want to
take a drop or not so about DNB rology
first of all it is really good in DNB
because especially your high highend
hospitals Mach better secondly about DNB
or MD in terms of job opportunities
paper equivalent so it does not impact a
lot even because and thirdly because the
PE the point of people perception so
that does not play a very significant
role if you talk about DN radio and for
taking medicine
at a rank of 5 to 10K you want to take
medicine then there comes two categories
like if you want to practice medicine or
whether or not you want to take do DM or
pursue DM further so if you want to
pursue DM I would suggest to take DNB
firstly anywh you are going to going to
do DM so it does not
matter people
per so if you do DM so then that's
become your final degree you are going
to introduce yourself as like whatever
DM you are like DM Cardiology DM
neurology but if you want to eventually
take DM I think it's a very good path
because first of all you do not have
Bond so anyway if you want to pursue
further education so why waste one more
more year secondly you get sufficient
time so you can prepare for your
entrance exams and if you want to
practice medicine like you know you do
not want to do super speciality and you
want to practice medicine then at a rank
of 5 to 10K if you you feel like like
you if you are really motivated for a
very good Institute very popular
government Institute with very very
large exposure at the same time have
good facility the problem with
peripheral medical colleges are that
they do not have so much facility so
especially investigation higher
investigations there's not much learning
in medicine like I'll suggest do not
it's better to take dnv medicine from
good city and good Institute than taking
MD medic at a very peripheral Medical
College because they will there in
peripheral medical colleges you will not
get that much load even you get that
load like for any complicated case or
any like unique cases you will refer
them to higher centers and secondly
there will not be much infrastructure
and especially like so now yes now we
practice evidence-based medicine so
investigation play a very very important
role I know like learning clinical
skills is important especially for exams
third important point I would like to
talk about in context to DMV is that
about the passing rate so I do not think
like primary dnv passing percentage
especially medicine decent because the
thing is that MD people are also
eligible for DMB exams
and they already have their degree so
they just give an attempt for DNB exam
just to get additional degree so overall
passing percentage come because a lot of
time like the people who who are giving
who are not primary DNB so they do not
come well prepared for that exam but for
the primary DNB is like that is the exam
to get their degree so we prepare
accordingly from the final year but but
yeah I agree it's still tougher to pass
than MD there's less pass percentage but
yeah like at this point I can't give you
guarantee
because so yeah I can't comment on that
but yeah passing percentage
primary and last point I would like to
discuss is about how to select your DNB
hospital so like you cannot choose your
DNB Hospital like just by seeing the
last year cut offs rank CL and the
hospital which has closed at a higher
rank you will take that hospital because
different hospital has different things
to
offer
Pati
sector so there are benefits pros and
cons of each and every hospital after 3
top hospitals fix pattern mostly so you
have to decide for
yourselfi but let's
say because it was a typical corporate
hospital but on the other hand Hospital
exposure
but so so different people take
hospitals due to different reason for
example the hospital which I got in
round one has comparatively highest typ
from the hospital which I actually got
in my final round but for me like at
this point Sten was not my priority so
you have to decide Hospital accordingly
and secondly like you have to visit
hospital before deciding it like you
know just try to visit at least
hospitals which are falling within the
range of your rank like if your rank is
5K let's say so try at least visiting
your hospitals from 4 to 6K rank like
the hospitals which were closed in the
range of 4 to 6K
so that you will have an idea so DNB
hospitals may you cannot follow the
trend blindly like government Hospital
generally so many times we feel exactly
the
same but INB Hospital you have to
inquire it because
maybe certain
consultant who who used to take a lot of
academic interest but maybe
so you know it's keep changing you
cannot follow the trend so yeah do try
to visit those hospitals yourself and
make a informed decision so yeah I hope
you like my video if you like my video
do like share and subscribe to my
channel and if you have any queries
regarding like Counseling in context to
DNB then do drop it in the comment
section so thank you for watching my
channel
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