Config 2024: Taking flight: lessons learned on adopting Figma at United

Figma
26 Jun 202418:46

Summary

TLDRユナイテッド航空のDerrick Wilkinsonとone NorthのJessica D Youngが、ArionデザインシステムをFigmaに移行する過程を語る。彼らは、大規模な組織での移行に共通する疑問に答え、実際のオフィス移転の比喩を使って移行の複雑さを説明し、成功のために重要なステップを紹介する。

Takeaways

  • 🌟 アメリカ航空は、従業員のユーザーエクスペリエンスチームを通じて、航空運用をサポートする製品を設計しています。
  • 🔧 one Northはフルサービスのデジタル代理店であり、Figmaのシグネチャサービスパートナーでもあります。
  • 📦 Figmaへの移行に関する共通の質問には、移行に要する時間、デザイナーのトレーニング方法、開発者の参加時期、移行の最適な時期、レガシーツールのフェーズアウト方法、および内部コミュニケーションのベストプラクティスが含まれます。
  • 🏢 移行を物理的なオフィスの引っ越しに例えると、デジタル資産だけでなく、関連する多くの側面を考慮する必要があることがわかります。
  • 📈 one Northは、クライアントのオフィス移行に伴うスタッフの不安を軽減するウェブサイトの設計・構築を手がけ、新しいオフィスの魅力的な特徴を伝えました。
  • 🤔 従業員は、新しいオフィスの特徴より、新しい日常のルーティンについて心配しており、小さな詳細が彼らを魅了しました。
  • 🛫 アメリカ航空は、顧客体験を向上させるための従業員体験に投資しており、2つのデザインシステムを運用しています。
  • 📈 アメリカ航空は急速な成長を遂げており、Figmaへの移行は、デザインチームの拡大を支持する戦略的な移行でした。
  • 🛠️ Figmaへの移行は、16ヶ月にわたって行われ、Orionデザインシステムの次のメジャーリリースとブランドリフレッシュを含みました。
  • 🎨 Figmaライブラリの事前投資は、チームのスケールアップと高品質なデザイン作業の継続的提供を可能にしました。
  • 📝 移行の成功は、戦略的かつ意図的なコミュニケーション計画、内部の活性化、トレーニング、プロセス更新に依存しています。
  • 🌐 Figmaへの移行は技術的、運用的、そして人間の取り組みであり、ビジネスの大きな目標に結びつける必要があります。

Q & A

  • Derrick Wilkinsonはどのような役割を持っていますか?

    -Derrick WilkinsonはUnited Airlinesの従業員ユーザー体験チームをリードしており、航空会社の運用をサポートする製品を設計しています。

  • Jessica D Youngはどのような立場から話していますか?

    -Jessica D Youngはone Northのデザインの管理ディレクターであり、フルサービスデジタルエージェンシーで働いており、Figmaのシグネチャサービスパートナーです。

  • one Northはどのような組織ですか?

    -one Northはフルサービスデジタルエージェンシーであり、Figmaのシグネチャサービスパートナーとして認められています。

  • Figmaへの移行に伴い、一般的な質問は何ですか?

    -Figmaへの移行に伴い、一般的な質問としては移行にかかる時間、デザイナーのトレーニング方法、開発者の参加時期、移行の最適な時期、レガシーツールの終了方法、内部コミュニケーションのベストプラクティスなどがあります。

  • Figmaへの移行をどのように比喩していますか?

    -Figmaへの移行を物理的なオフィスの引っ越しに比喩しており、デスクやキーボード、モニター、ペン、鉛筆などの荷物の整理だけでなく、新しいオフィスでのランチ場所やトイレの場所など、関連する多くの要素を考慮する必要があると説明しています。

  • one Northはどのようなプロジェクトを手がけましたか?

    -one Northはクライアントがオフィスを移すことに伴い、従業員の不安を解消するためにウェブサイトの設計と構築を手がけました。そのウェブサイトは新しいオフィスの魅力的な新機能を伝えるために作成されました。

  • United Airlinesのデザインシステムは何ですか?

    -United Airlinesは消費者向け製品にはAtmos、内部向け製品にはOrionという2つのデザインシステムを持っています。

  • United AirlinesはなぜFigmaへの移行を決定しましたか?

    -United Airlinesは急速な成長と技術への投資により、従業員数を増やし、Figmaへの移行はデザイン、プロトタイピング、UI仕様のための3つのツールから1つに統合することでスケールアップを図る戦略的な決定でした。

  • Figmaへの移行の期間はどのくらいですか?

    -Figmaへの移行は全体的に16ヶ月かかりましたが、Orionライブラリの構築に4ヶ月、プロジェクト移行とRebrandの完了に10ヶ月程度かかりました。

  • Figmaへの移行の成功のために重要な要素は何ですか?

    -Figmaへの移行の成功のために重要な要素は、事前にOrionライブラリをFigmaで構築し、プロジェクト移行を開始する前に一貫性を保つこと、また内部でのコミュニケーションやトレーニング、プロセスの更新に時間を割くことです。

  • Figmaへの移行の際のレッスンは何か?

    -Figmaへの移行の際のレッスンとしては、移行に資源を割り当て、外部の助言を活用し、詳細なFigma移行計画を立てること、レガシーツールの終了計画を立てること、Figma内でのコンポーネントの再構築、早期に開始すること、そしてコミュニケーションを早期に行い、定期的に行うことです。

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😀 チームによるFigma移行の紹介

DerrickとJessicaが、彼らのチームがArionデザインシステムをFigmaに移行するプロセスについて話す。彼らは、大企業がこのような移行を始める際によく聞かれる質問を紹介し、実際のオフィス移行を例に、移行の複雑さを説明する。また、One Northがクライアントのオフィス移行を支援した経験から学んだことを共有し、従業員が新しいオフィスに慣れるために懸念していることを理解することが重要であると強調している。

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🛫 United AirlinesのデザインシステムとFigmaへの移行

Derrickは、United Airlinesの従業員エクスペリエンスチームがFigmaへの移行をどのように戦略的に進め、スケールアップし、デザインシステムの更新とブランドリフレッシュを同時に行ったかについて説明する。彼らは、新しいデザインシステムライブラリの作成を優先し、その後にプロジェクト移行を開始し、RebrandとRyan 2.0のリリースを完了した。また、Figmaでのプロジェクト数を47個に増やし、デザインの質を維持し、チームのスケールアップを実現した。

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📈 Figma移行の戦略と成功事例

Jessicaは、Figmaへの移行が技術的、運用的、そして人間の取り組みであることを強調し、成功のための3つの次元を紹介する。Derrickのチームは、大きな組織であるUnited Airlinesの成長ニーズに対応するためにFigmaへの移行を決断し、その成功は顧客体験の向上につながった。また、彼らは、Figma移行の際の主要なマイルストーン、戦略的決定、およびプロジェクトのスケールについて話す。

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📚 Figma移行の教訓と最終的なアドバイス

Jessicaは、Figma移行の過程で学んだ教訓と最終的なアドバイスを共有する。彼らは、移行に専任のリソースを割り当て、外部の支援を活用し、詳細な移行計画を策定することを推奨する。また、レガシーツールのフェーズアウト計画、Figma内のコンポーネントの再構築、早期のコミュニケーション、そして今すぐ始めるべきであることを強調している。最後に、彼らは、Figma移行が技術的な移行であるだけでなく、人々の日常生活に密接に関連する取り組みであることを再確認し、チームの協力と取り組みに感謝の意を表している。

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Figma

Figmaは、デザインとプロトタイピングのためのオンラインツールです。ビデオでは、Figmaを使用してデザインシステムを移行するプロセスが説明されています。Figmaは、デザインチームが共同作業を行い、効率的にプロジェクトを進めるために重要な役割を果たしています。例えば、United AirlinesはFigmaを使い、デザインシステム「Orion」を更新し、内部向けおよび消費者向けの製品のデザインを統一化しています。

💡デザインシステム

デザインシステムは、一貫性を保ちながらデザインをスケーリングするための一連のガイドライン、コンポーネント、パターンです。ビデオでは、United Airlinesのデザインシステム「Atmos」と「Orion」が言及され、これらのシステムがどのようにFigmaに移行され、内部および消費者向けの製品のデザインをサポートするのかが説明されています。

💡移行

移行とは、あるシステムやプロセスから別のものへデータを移動することを指します。ビデオでは、United AirlinesがSketchからFigmaへの移行を行っているプロセスが紹介されています。この移行は、デザインチームのスケールアップや効率化を目的としており、重要なビジネス目標に結びつけられています。

💡ユーザーエクスペリエンス

ユーザーエクスペリエンスとは、製品やサービスを利用する際のユーザーの感情的な反応や印象を指します。ビデオでは、United Airlinesが顧客体験を向上させるためにデザインシステムを更新し、Figmaへの移行を行っていることが強調されています。また、従業員のユーザーエクスペリエンスも顧客体験につながることを示しています。

💡内部コミュニケーション

内部コミュニケーションは、組織内での情報を共有することです。ビデオでは、Figmaへの移行プロセスにおいて、内部コミュニケーションが重要視されています。DerrickとJessicaは、移行の進捗や変更点を従業員に伝えるためのコミュニケーション戦略を提案しています。例えば、ランチアンドラーニングやデモを通じて情報を共有することが挙げられます。

💡従業員

従業員は、組織の労働者であり、ビジネスの成功に寄与します。ビデオでは、United Airlinesの従業員が新しいデザインシステムやFigmaへの移行にどのように関与し、その影響を受けるかが説明されています。特に、従業員のユーザーエクスペリエンスが顧客体験にどのように影響を与えるかが強調されています。

💡スケールアップ

スケールアップとは、ビジネスや組織の規模を拡大することを指します。ビデオでは、United Airlinesが200機の新しい航空機を導入し、従業員数を3万人以上増やすという「United Next」という成長計画を持ち、そのためにデザインチームをスケールアップする必要があると説明されています。Figmaへの移行は、そのスケールアップを支援する戦略の1つです。

💡リブランド

リブランドとは、ブランドのイメージやアイデンティティを刷新することを指します。ビデオでは、United AirlinesがFigmaを使用してデザインシステムを更新し、リブランドを実施していることが紹介されています。リブランドは、顧客のブランド認知を刷新し、新しい市場での競争力を高めるために行われます。

💡プロジェクトワーク

プロジェクトワークは、特定の目標を達成するために組織された一連の活動です。ビデオでは、United AirlinesのデザインチームがFigmaを使用して新しいプロジェクトを開始し、既存のプロジェクトを移行するプロセスが説明されています。プロジェクトワークは、デザインシステムの統一化や効率化を目的としています。

💡従業員の関与

従業員の関与は、従業員が組織の変更や改善に積極的に参加することを指します。ビデオでは、United Airlinesが従業員の意見や懸念を理解し、Figmaへの移行プロセスに従業員を関与させる方法が提案されています。例えば、従業員が新しいオフィスの構造やコーヒーショップの場所について懸念を示した例が挙げられます。

Highlights

Derrick Wilkinson 介绍了他在美联航领导的员工体验团队,该团队设计支持航空公司运营的产品。

Jessica D Young 作为 One North 的管理总监,讨论了他们作为 Figma 认证签名服务合作伙伴的全服务数字代理角色。

讨论了在迁移到 Figma 过程中常见的问题,如迁移时间、设计师培训、开发者参与时机等。

提出了将迁移过程比作物理搬迁的隐喻,强调了考虑所有相关细节的重要性。

分享了 One North 帮助客户设计网站以缓解员工对搬迁的担忧的案例。

通过研究揭示了员工真正关心的问题,例如新大楼是否会倒塌,以及星巴克的位置。

强调了在迁移过程中考虑技术和操作之外的人文因素的重要性。

Derek 描述了美联航对提供良好客户体验的承诺,以及员工在其中的作用。

介绍了美联航的两个设计系统:Atmos 和 Arion,分别用于面向消费者和内部产品。

美联航的移动应用程序因其卓越的用户体验而获奖,并且团队不断为其添加新功能。

美联航的员工增长和对技术的投入推动了团队的增长,目前有超过 70 名设计师在 Figma 上工作。

美联航的增长计划 United Next 包括新增 200 架飞机和超过 30,000 名员工。

Derek 讨论了美联航迁移到 Figma 的战略决策,以及如何通过迁移来支持未来的增长。

分享了美联航在迁移过程中的关键里程碑,包括构建 Orion 图书馆和完成品牌刷新。

强调了在 Figma 中构建设计系统库的投资对于团队扩展和持续交付高质量设计工作的重要性。

Jessica 分享了 LinkedIn 上关于美联航客户体验的帖子,证明了设计团队的努力对客户体验的积极影响。

总结了迁移到 Figma 的关键教训和建议,包括投入资源、制定详细计划、重建组件、沟通和立即开始。

强调了迁移到 Figma 不仅仅是技术操作问题,还涉及到人文因素,需要全面考虑。

以 One North 和美联航团队的合作为例,展示了如何通过创建设计系统的身份和周边商品来激发内部兴奋和热情。

最后,感谢参与迁移过程的所有团队成员,并鼓励大家立即开始迁移,不要等待完美时机。

Transcripts

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all right hi everyone I'm Derrick

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Wilkinson I lead the employee user

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experience team at United Airlines where

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we design products that support our

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Airline operations I'm Jessica D young

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I'm the managing director of design at

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one North we are a full service digital

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agency we are also a certified figma

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signature service partner and today I'm

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going to talk to you about how our teams

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work together to migrate the Arion

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design system into

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figma so one North consults with a lot

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of large Global organizations during a

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migration like this and I always get the

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same common questions at the beginning

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some of you in the audience if you're

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embarking on a figma migration may have

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these as well I hear things like how

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long will the migration take how should

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we train our designers how should we

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bring our developers along

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when's the best time to make a move like

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this how should we Sunset Legacy tools

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like Zeppelin or sketch or XD and then

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what about Legacy application

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support how about General best practices

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around internal comms during the the

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migration or some variation of how does

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everyone else do blank everyone's

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curious how other orgs do that and as an

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agency we sort of get an inside look at

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that and so what has occurred to me in

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all the these conversations is that

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everybody's curious about what other

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organizations are doing in a migration

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like this and everybody struggles a

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little bit with imagining all the moving

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parts and pieces for something like this

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so today to start our talk I want to

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introduce a metaphor that I hope is

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helpful to you in how you think about IM

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migration and it might also be helpful

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when you're talking with stakeholders

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that aren't quite as involved um in a

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digital effort like this so I want you

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to imagine for a second we're not moving

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something digital I want you to imagine

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a physical move imagine your company is

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moving from one office to another

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imagine that you're packing up boxes at

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everyone's desks you're putting in

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keyboards and monitors pens pencils

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that's sort of the core part of the move

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but then there's a lot of tangental

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related pieces you have to think about

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once you get to the new office you have

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to figure out the Wii you have to figure

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out where you're going to go get lunch

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every day where the new bathrooms are

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there's a lot of moving pieces

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and I think for a physical office move

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like that maybe you've gone through that

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it's easier to imagine I think this is

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an apt metaphor because figma is all of

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our virtual offices that's where we

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spend all of our time day in and day

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out and so I want to tell you a quick

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story before I hand things off to Derek

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um a couple years ago one North actually

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had a client who was moving offices

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they're moving to this skyscraper right

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in the middle um is being built in down

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Chicago where both of our headquarters

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are and the client came to us and they

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said we're noticing a lot of

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apprehension from our employees people

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are worried about this move and so they

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enlisted our help to design and build

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them a website that communicated all the

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cool new features that these employees

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would get to take advantage of um and so

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it's things like you know we're going to

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have a lot more space so we can grow

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into all these new desks that we're

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going to have everything was

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state-of-the-art all the technology in

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there they even had AI for their

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elevators so that during the lunch rush

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you weren't waiting extra long for the

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elevator all this cool stuff so when we

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started the project we started with

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research as we normally do and we went

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and talked with those employees and it

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was really Illuminating as research

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often is because while all these new

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office features would be a benefit to

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those employees once they moved in

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that's not what those employees were

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thinking about right now now they were

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worried about other things other things

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were keeping them up at night and so in

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these conversations in these interviews

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two themes

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emerged the first question that came up

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more than any other question will the

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building tip over when I'm in it you can

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see here it has this really it's sort of

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an engineering marble it tapers down at

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the bottom this long steel core um and

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people were really worried about that

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and then the second question where's the

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clo is Starbucks so you have really

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really big existential uh questions

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keeping people up at night and then

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really really small details and so what

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we learned from this these conversations

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were that all those cool new features

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they would benefit the employees once

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they were in the office but that's not

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what they were concerned about right now

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they were worried about what their new

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daily schedule was going to be um you

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know where their train step was where

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the where they were going to get coffee

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in the morning

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and so we added content to the site we

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talked to the engineers and The

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Architects reassured everyone about the

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structural Integrity of the building we

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put an interactive map where people

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could find the closest Starbucks so we

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were able to solve for all that the

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website launched the client moved it was

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all a success and so then to wrap up

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this project the one North team went to

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visit the new office and I was asking

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everybody what is your favorite part

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about this your new office can anyone

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guess what their favorite feature was

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from that list that I showed you well

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it's a trick question because their

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favorite feature wasn't on that list it

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was this chocolate milk machine that was

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in the common kitchen area everybody was

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talking about it have you had the

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chocolate milk yet I did it was awesome

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it like took you right back to middle

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school and but it was another sort of

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aha moment for us that these are the

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little details that people can really

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rally around and they matter I think in

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the key in Dylan's keynote this morning

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some of the smallest updates got the

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biggest

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Applause and so thinking about these

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little details that Delight when I fly

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on United Airlines I am

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disproportionately excited when the

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snack cart comes around and so for all

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of you brave enough to sit in our

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premium cabin today we have brought some

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snacks uh that you might enjoy on on

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your flight with

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United so to bring this back to what

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we're here to talk about when one North

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consults with clients we advise them a

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large migration to figma it has three

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dimensions it's a technical operational

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but also a human endeavor and you have

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to consider things both big and small in

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order to ensure a successful adoption of

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that

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tool and so I'm going to hand things

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over to Derek now and we're going to

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talk about three main things first Derek

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is going to set this the stage for the

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scale of what his team does at United

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it's a it's a very very large

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organization then he's going to talk

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about their move to figma at a high

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level took about 2 years so we only have

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15 minutes and then I'm going to wrap it

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up with some lessons

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learned take it away Derek right thanks

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Jessica United is incredibly committed

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to delivering a good experience for our

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customers United also understands the

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role our employees have in delivering

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that experience for our customers to

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that end we have two Design Systems

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Atmos for our consumer facing products

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and a Ryan for our internal facing

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products many of you are probably aware

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of our award-winning mobile app you may

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have used it when you traveled here we

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have a very talented team that is

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constantly adding new features and

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improvements to our mobile app to make

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the customer Journey a better experience

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this commitment to a great experience

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extends to our many employees and

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operations as well as a result we have a

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dedicated ux team Focus exclusively on

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designing custom applications for our

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employees the recent growth at United

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and our investment in technology for its

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Workforce has driven growth for our team

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as well we support over 100 products uh

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in

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operations and we have over 70 designers

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is actively working in figma

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today United recently hit a milestone of

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employing over 100,000 people across

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several different operational groups it

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takes a lot of people and a lot of

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technology to run an

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airline United has an aggressive growth

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Plan called United next and recently we

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have over 200 new aircraft and service

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and have hired over 30,000 employees uh

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the past couple years

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a couple years ago we reached an

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inflection point knowing the high demand

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that was headed our

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way and it begged the question how do we

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scale our team to support all this

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growth we knew that our existing setup

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was not going to scale to support demand

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for future work for all the future work

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coming our way so our move to figma was

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a strategic move that resulted in us

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consolid ating uh from three tools for

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design prototyping and UI specs to

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one in addition to migrating all our

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work from sketch to figma we also had to

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complete our work in the next major

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release of Orion our design system and

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also include the uh United brand refresh

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in those

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updates we had to do all of that while

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continuing to deliver ongoing ux work in

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our current Port portfolio

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and avoid any disruptions to employee

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facing applications and subsequently

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overall Airline operations at

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United given our challenges with all

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this parallel work we had to be very

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thoughtful and very strategic with how

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we went about our migration to

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figma I know Jessica said two years but

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it was really 16 months uh overall this

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timeline looks like 16 months but I'll

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break it down a bit to highlight the key

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Milestones I think the most important

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decision for us was really building out

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our Orion Library in figma before

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allowing the team to start using figma

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for project work this minimized rework

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later and ensured that all our project

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output was consistent just as it was

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with our previous design tool this work

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took about four

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months sorry once we completed the

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library we invited the team to start uh

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using figma for all new project work at

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the beginning of

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2023 and by October of 2023 we completed

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work on the Rebrand and also released a

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Ryan

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2.0 and to date we have 47 projects

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either started in or migrated to figma

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we still have some Legacy apps that are

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in sketch um but we don't have any

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current plans to migrate some of them

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because we're we're not really investing

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in them or making updates but we do we

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do keep sketch a sketch license should

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we need to make minor uh incremental

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updates to those

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apps we wanted to show some examples of

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our design system elements uh from Orion

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for

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reference and how they look applied to

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real operational applications for

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United most of the brand updates were

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subtle but our figma library and the

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modes feature really gave us flexibility

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and how we rolled out these changes to

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our users and applications letting them

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switch themes uh when the time was right

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for them uh for comp by

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comparison uh the the up the brand

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updates to the mobile app and united.com

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all had to happen at

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once our upfront investment and our

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design system and building out the

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library in figma has has really been a

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force multiplier for our team and

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allowed us to scale and continuing to

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deliver highquality design work as I

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mentioned we have 47 projects in figma

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since the beginning of

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2023 and that that would not be possible

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without that early upfront

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investment to reiterate I wanted to

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state that at United We strongly believe

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that a good employee experience enables

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a good customer experience

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thank you

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D and so a lot of organizations say that

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but I think it's another to invest in

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your team that delivers that and I

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wanted to bring you just a piece of

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anecdotal evidence a couple weeks ago

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Dereck and I logged on to LinkedIn and

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they all these notifications because

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somebody had posted about their

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experience as a customer with United

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Jeremy does not work for United he does

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not work for one North he was okay with

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me sharing his post uh in this forum

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today um it it went viral I don't there

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were 10,000 likes um but I want to

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highlight the relevant part Jeremy said

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okay I don't know who is in charge of ux

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design at United Airlines but you need

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to slow down you're making the rest of

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us look bad fullon ux service ecosystem

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and it feels like it popped up overnight

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though I realize this is the culmination

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of years of hard work and I think this

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is evidence that the customer experience

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benefited from Derek and his team's

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foresight years ago knowing that they

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needed to make this move to figma

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because United was buying 200 new

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aircraft and his team needed to scale to

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support that and so I share this as

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evidence that it works but also I share

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this because many of you in the audience

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you may need to make the case for that

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investment to your stakeholders and I

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hear people focus on like yes figma is

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much better for the designer experience

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yes we could probably get you some stats

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around improved efficiency for the

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design to Dev workflow but I think it

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goes beyond that and this is proof of

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that I think you need to tie the

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investment to figma and your design

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system to much bigger business goals um

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things like scale customer experience

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employee

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experience so we're going to wrap up

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with just a few Lessons Learned and

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final

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thoughts we wanted to share our key

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recommendations if you're planning your

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own migration we know every company is

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different but we believe these lessons

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are relevant for

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all one dedicate resources to the

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migration and consider leveraging

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outside help to help you with guidance

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and

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bandwidth to make a detailed figma

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transition plan uh have a plan for

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sunsetting your legacy

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tools and then three rebuild components

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within figma all at once do it the right

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way the first time rather than peace

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meal number four communicate early

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regularly and often when Derrick and I

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were talking about why their migration

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was so successful he was like well we

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did all these things like lunch and

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learns showcases demos they were

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regularly giving people information when

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they needed

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it and number five start now don't wait

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for the perfect time we shared earlier

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the United team did this during a

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Rebrand during the launch of Orion 2.0

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all while keeping 100 products and a

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major airline moving so if they can do

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it you can do it too and the longer you

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wait the more designed debt you're going

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to

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acrw so I want to bring this full circle

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back to the story I told at the

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beginning think about those two pressing

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questions will the building tip over

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where's the closest Starbucks um there's

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a real human element in there and I I

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see organizations focus on tactics and

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new features and sometimes inevitably

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adoption can stall a it and the figma

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adoption is way more than just the core

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product and so in this physical office

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move example these two questions were

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about more than just the four walls of

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the new office this was about the

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broader ecosystem this was about the

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train stop nearby this was about the

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building and so as you think about a

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figma adoption of course focus on the

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core design tool but then think about

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things like fig Jam Dev mode and also

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the processes the people and their needs

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and their daily

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routines one of the most fun Parts about

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partnering with Derrick's team actually

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had nothing to do with figma but we're

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going to share it today anyways we were

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brainstorming out about ways to create

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sort of internal excitement and

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enthusiasm around the migration the

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Rebrand the release of Ryan 2.0 and we

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said why don't we brand the the design

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system so we created an identity really

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quickly we made all this swag Derrick

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and I are sporting some of it today um

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and the team loved it every time we go

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to visit Derrick at his office they're

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wearing hoodies um and you just see this

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sort of rally around the design system

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and so for them like that's their

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chocolate milk that's the little thing

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that they're all getting really excited

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about and so to close a couple uh final

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pieces of advice you know adoption won't

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be automatic their their adoption was

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successful because they were really

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intentional about every step of the way

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so make sure you have a plan for comms

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internal enablement and

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training as much as we love figma

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tooling won't solve your Comm

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communication issues so have a plan to

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update processes documentation things

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like that and finally to reiterate

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migrating to figma is a technical

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operational and human endeavor and

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dererk and I didn't do this all together

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so speaking of the humans that made this

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possible we want to thank the United and

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the one North team that are all sporting

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their or here today give them a round of

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[Applause]

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applause and thank you all for coming

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have a great rest of the conference

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