X-Men '97 Really Frustrated Me... (Series Review)

JesterBell
18 May 202429:13

Summary

TLDRThe video script discusses the mixed reception of 'X-Men 97', a series praised for its attention to Marvel's source material but criticized for its pacing and narrative inconsistencies. The reviewer appreciates the character development of Cyclops and Jean Grey, as well as the animation quality. However, they express frustration with the overstuffed plot, rushed storylines, and lack of character consistency, particularly with Sunspot and Rogue. The script also questions the show's themes and handling of Magneto's character, suggesting a bias from the writer.

Takeaways

  • 🎬 The speaker is discussing their mixed feelings about the 'X-Men 97' series, acknowledging that their opinion may be unpopular among fans.
  • 📝 The speaker had high expectations for 'X-Men 97' as a continuation of a beloved cartoon and was initially very excited about the series.
  • 🔥 The series has received much praise, but the speaker believes it has significant flaws, especially in its narrative structure and pacing.
  • 🌟 The speaker highlights positive aspects, such as the reinvigoration of Cyclops and Jean Grey's characters and the voice acting.
  • 👎 However, they criticize the handling of certain storylines, like Storm's 'Life Death' arc, which they felt was rushed and lacked emotional impact.
  • 🧩 The series is described as 'overstuffed,' trying to adapt too many comic book storylines into a short season, leading to pacing issues and underdeveloped plots.
  • 🤔 The speaker questions the logic behind certain character decisions, such as Magneto's sudden change of heart and the lack of consequences for his actions.
  • 🔄 There's inconsistency in the show's themes and character development, with some plotlines and character arcs feeling abandoned or forgotten.
  • 🎭 The speaker suggests that the show's creators may have been influenced by their personal preferences, rather than maintaining consistency with the original series or comic source material.
  • 📉 The speaker predicts that while the show is currently praised, its flaws may become more apparent over time, potentially diminishing its rewatch value.
  • 💡 The takeaway emphasizes the need for balance in adapting source material, respecting the original while also ensuring narrative coherence and character consistency.

Q & A

  • What is the main criticism of 'X-Men 97' presented in the video?

    -The main criticism is that 'X-Men 97' is overstuffed, trying to adapt too many comic book storylines and original content into a short 10-episode season, resulting in pacing issues and an incoherent narrative.

  • How does the reviewer feel about the handling of Cyclops and Jean Grey's characters in 'X-Men 97'?

    -The reviewer appreciates the reinvigoration of Cyclops as a dynamic character and the handling of Jean Grey, noting that the voice actors did a fantastic job and that their storylines were well-executed.

  • What are some of the positive aspects of the show mentioned by the reviewer?

    -Positive aspects include the animation quality, the character development of Cyclops, Jean Grey, Nightcrawler, and Gambit, and the show's adherence to the comic book source material.

  • Why does the reviewer believe 'X-Men 97' might not age well?

    -The reviewer believes the show might not age well due to its numerous flaws becoming more apparent over time, and the initial hype around the show wearing off.

  • What issue does the reviewer have with the character development of Sunspot and Rogue?

    -The reviewer finds Sunspot's and Rogue's character development inconsistent and their storylines poorly handled, with significant plot points and character motivations not making sense or being resolved.

  • How does the reviewer view the handling of Magneto's character and his actions in the show?

    -The reviewer criticizes the show for making Magneto too sympathetic and for not properly addressing the consequences of his actions, suggesting that the writer's bias may have influenced this portrayal.

  • What does the reviewer think about the pacing of 'X-Men 97'?

    -The reviewer argues that the pacing of 'X-Men 97' is a significant issue, with the show feeling rushed in some parts and dragging in others, due to the overwhelming amount of content crammed into a short season.

  • What is the reviewer's opinion on the show's themes and their consistency?

    -The reviewer finds the themes of the show to be inconsistent and sporadic, with the narrative pushing certain ideas in one episode and then abandoning them in the next.

  • Why does the reviewer believe that 'X-Men 97' is not the best representation of the X-Men on screen?

    -The reviewer believes that 'X-Men 97' is not the best representation because it lacks coherence, has pacing issues, and is heavily influenced by the writer's personal preferences rather than a balanced approach to storytelling.

  • What does the reviewer suggest as a better alternative to 'X-Men 97'?

    -The reviewer suggests that previous X-Men shows like 'X-Men Evolution' and 'X-Men 92' might be better alternatives as they were more consistent in their storytelling and character development.

  • How does the reviewer feel about the potential for a future season of 'X-Men 97'?

    -The reviewer hopes for changes in the next season, such as a streamlined narrative and a more balanced approach, but expresses skepticism based on the current season's issues.

Outlines

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🤔 Unpopular Opinions on X-Men 97

The speaker begins by acknowledging the unpopularity of their forthcoming opinions on the X-Men 97 series finale. They express their initial excitement and anticipation for the series, especially given its roots in a beloved cartoon. However, they lament the series' conclusion, suggesting that while it has received high praise, they see numerous flaws. The speaker criticizes the show for its pacing and narrative issues, feeling that it does not live up to the potential of the X-Men legacy. They also note the show's failure to meet the high bar set by earlier Marvel productions and express concern that the finale's reception may not age well.

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👍 Positive Aspects of X-Men 97

The speaker outlines the positive elements of the X-Men 97 series, focusing on character development and animation quality. They praise the reinvigoration of Cyclops and Jean Grey's characters, noting the improved depth and dynamic portrayal compared to the original series. The speaker also appreciates the handling of controversial storylines, such as the Mesmero plotline, and the voice acting. Additionally, they commend the animation, action sequences, and the show's adherence to the comic book source material, providing a sense of belonging in the Marvel universe.

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😓 Overstuffed Plot and Pacing Issues

The speaker criticizes the series for being overstuffed, attempting to cram the equivalent of five seasons' worth of plot into just ten episodes. They argue that the show tries to adapt too many comic book storylines, leading to a lack of pacing and an inability to give each storyline the attention it deserves. This results in a disjointed narrative with some storylines feeling rushed and others seemingly disappearing without resolution. The speaker uses Storm's 'Life Death' storyline as an example of the show's mishandling of emotional arcs, pointing out inconsistencies in character development and narrative focus.

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😡 Inconsistent Character Development

The speaker expresses frustration with the inconsistent character development in X-Men 97, particularly with Sunspot and Rogue. They feel that Sunspot's storyline is irrelevant and disconnected from the main plot, while Rogue's character arc is underdeveloped and out of character. The speaker also criticizes the show for not addressing the consequences of characters' actions, such as Magneto's violent tendencies and the betrayal by Roberto and Rogue, which are seemingly forgotten in subsequent episodes.

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🧐 Writer's Bias and Inconsistencies

The speaker accuses the show's writer, Bo Deo, of bias, particularly towards certain characters and storylines. They argue that the show pushes certain themes and relationships, such as the friendship between Gambit and Storm, at the expense of more logical narrative progression. The speaker also criticizes the show's sporadic changes in tone and direction, suggesting that the writer's personal preferences have led to an incoherent and confusing storyline.

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🚫 Lack of Coherence and Consequences

The speaker emphasizes the lack of coherence and consistent consequences in the show's narrative. They point out that the show's themes and messages are muddled and inconsistent, with the finale failing to address the severity of Magneto's actions. The speaker also criticizes the show for its sporadic development of plotlines, such as the Magneto-Rogue relationship, which seems to be included for the writer's personal preference rather than narrative necessity.

🤷‍♂️ Disappointment and Future Concerns

The speaker concludes by expressing their disappointment in the series and concern for its future. They believe that the initial hype around the show has led to an overestimation of its quality, and they predict that its flaws will become more apparent over time. The speaker calls for a more balanced approach to future adaptations, respecting the source material while ensuring narrative coherence and character consistency.

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Keywords

💡Unpopular Opinions

The term 'Unpopular Opinions' refers to perspectives that are not commonly accepted or agreed upon by the majority. In the context of the video, it sets the stage for the creator's critique of 'X-Men 97', indicating that their views may differ from the general praise the show has received. The creator acknowledges the potential backlash but feels compelled to express their genuine thoughts on the series.

💡Source Material

Source material refers to the original content or works that inspired adaptations, such as comics in the case of 'X-Men'. The video discusses the importance of staying true to the source material and criticizes instances where adaptations deviate from the original characters and stories. The creator expresses disappointment when adaptations, like the 'Fox Universe', do not align well with the source material's tone and spirit.

💡Character Development

Character development is the process by which a character's personality, abilities, and relationships evolve over time. The script mentions this in relation to the 'X-Men 97' series, both praising the growth of characters like Cyclops and Jean Grey and criticizing the handling of others like Storm, who the creator feels was inconsistent and not given adequate depth or resolution.

💡Pacing

Pacing refers to the speed at which the plot of a story unfolds. The video criticizes 'X-Men 97' for its pacing, stating that the show crams too many storylines into a short season, leading to a lack of coherence and underdeveloped plot points. The creator uses the term to highlight the show's inability to give due time and attention to each narrative thread, resulting in a disjointed viewing experience.

💡Consequences

Consequences are the results or effects of an action or decision. The script discusses the theme of consequences in the context of character actions and the show's failure to maintain them consistently. The creator argues that 'X-Men 97' does not effectively portray the lasting impact of characters' choices, particularly in the case of Magneto, where his severe actions are quickly resolved, undermining the narrative's depth.

💡Adaptation

Adaptation in this context means the process of converting a work from one medium to another, such as from comic books to a television series. The video script mentions adaptation in relation to the show's attempt to bring comic book storylines to life. The creator points out that while the show tries to adapt multiple complex storylines, it falls short due to the limitations of its format and the resulting lack of narrative depth.

💡Cyclops

Cyclops, aka Scott Summers, is a central character in the 'X-Men' series. The script praises the portrayal of Cyclops in 'X-Men 97', noting that the show successfully reinvigorates the character, making him more dynamic and relatable compared to previous adaptations. The creator appreciates the character's development and the voice acting that brings him to life.

💡Jean Grey

Jean Grey is another pivotal character in the 'X-Men' universe. The video mentions Jean Grey in the context of her character development and the handling of her storyline in 'X-Men 97'. The creator feels that while her portrayal was generally well-executed, the show's rushed treatment of certain aspects of her story, such as the 'Phoenix Saga', detracted from the overall impact.

💡Gambit

Gambit is a character in the 'X-Men' series who is highlighted in the script as being exceptionally well-adapted in 'X-Men 97'. The creator expresses a strong appreciation for the character's portrayal, including the voice acting and the limited screen time that made his character memorable. Gambit's death and its aftermath are also discussed, indicating the emotional weight his character carried in the series.

💡Animation Quality

Animation quality refers to the visual aspects of an animated production, including character design, movement, and overall aesthetics. The video script praises the animation quality of 'X-Men 97', noting that despite some minor flaws, the action sequences and character movements are well-choreographed and visually appealing, contributing positively to the series.

💡Bias

Bias in this context refers to a personal preference or inclination that influences one's judgment or actions. The creator accuses the show's writer of bias, particularly towards certain characters like Magneto and the relationship between Rogue and Magneto. The script suggests that this bias has led to an unbalanced portrayal and narrative decisions that do not align with the established 'X-Men' lore.

Highlights

The video presents an unpopular opinion on the finale of X-Men '97, suggesting that the show may not age well despite current praise.

The reviewer expresses disappointment with the overstuffed plot of X-Men '97, criticizing the attempt to cram too many comic book storylines into a short season.

Cyclops and Jean Grey are praised for their dynamic portrayal and the handling of Cyclops's past relationship with Meline Prior.

Nightcrawler's character is appreciated for maintaining both his religious and humorous aspects, showing a more rounded depiction.

Gambit is highlighted as the best character in the show, with a standout voice performance and a compelling adaptation.

The animation quality is commended, especially in the action sequences, for its detailed choreography and visual appeal.

The pacing of the show is criticized for having no consistent rhythm, with storylines feeling rushed or unnecessarily dragged out.

Storm's 'Life Death' storyline is pointed out as a missed opportunity, feeling rushed and underdeveloped in the adaptation.

The handling of Magneto's character is questioned, with concerns about the show's bias towards making him sympathetic despite his actions.

Sunspot and Rogue's character arcs are criticized for their inconsistency and lack of connection to the main storylines.

The show's sporadic changes in tone and direction are noted as a frustration, with themes and character motivations not aligning throughout the series.

The finale is criticized for its lack of consequences and resolution, particularly regarding Magneto's actions and the characters' reactions to them.

The reviewer suggests that the show's creators may have been more focused on fan service and personal preferences rather than coherent storytelling.

The potential influence of the writer's personal bias on the show's narrative is discussed, particularly regarding certain character relationships and plotlines.

The show's themes are critiqued for being muddled and inconsistent, with the finale not aligning with the established bleak outlook.

The reviewer expresses a preference for previous X-Men animated series, such as X-Men Evolution and X-Men '92, for their consistency and storytelling.

The video concludes with the opinion that X-Men '97 may not hold up over time and that there is potential for better representation of the characters in future adaptations.

Transcripts

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okay um I'm very well aware that this is

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going to be an unpopular opinions video

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unfortunately um I I think as of now it

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will be I think that in the future it

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will not be but um so I watched the

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finale of X-Men 97 and I wanted to give

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myself time to think about it because

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I've been wanting to do this series

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review ever since the whole thing came

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out I mean since it started and be able

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to really gather my thoughts and uh do a

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video on the thing as a whole cuz I was

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really passionate about getting a new

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X-Men thing after all of these years

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especially one based off of uh what was

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supposed to be based off of one of my

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favorite cartoons of all time and I

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wrote down a script for it but um

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honestly I realized that the script was

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just getting to be too long and that if

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I was to write a script down going over

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all my thoughts over everything it would

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just go on for a very very very long

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time and uh I realized that I just had

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to get this out there so I'll just use

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what I already wrote down as my notes

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but

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um uh it the X-Men 97 has been getting a

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lot of praise and here's my thing I

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think that as fans we are starved I

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think as Marvel fans we are starved of

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anything that seems to care about the

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source of who these characters are

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because we we've seen it we've seen with

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directors who don't care about these

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characters who try to change it into

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things that they're not we've seen it

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with um changing the tone of Marvel

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people who haven't read or liked the

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source material so um and with X-Men you

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know with the fox Universe they had very

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little in there that was good I mean I

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think that it's understated just how

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inaccurate to the comics and what worked

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about the comics the fox Universe was

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and we haven't gotten anything X-Men in

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so many years so I understand that we're

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all starving for something entertaining

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anything that adheres to these

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characters and you know look how I was

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when this show started I was so hyped

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about it I was so on board with it uh

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even at some points in my reviews I said

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this is like the best thing since

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Infinity War but um as I say before what

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matters most about something is the

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ending and I wouldn't disagree that this

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is the best thing that Marvel has put

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out in a while but that isn't a very

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high bar the thing is as everyone is

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just praising this as a 10 out of 10

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show and not accepting any criticisms of

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it I'm looking back at the narrative as

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a whole and just seeing a whole lot of

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problems and I know that that's

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blasphemous but um uh let hear me out

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because at the same time I feel like the

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problems in this show are very very

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obvious to point out and why I just

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can't agree with people that this is a

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peak X-Men show and I just see a whole

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lot wrong with it especially where they

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went with and this should be a little

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disclaimer uh criticizing a show does

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not mean I'm telling you you can't like

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the show it means I'm seeing a whole lot

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of problems with it and it's in tor ING

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with me finding this a good show uh as a

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whole and so you can still like the show

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all you want but what I'm getting into

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here is the obvious flaws with it and

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why I think that this still is not uh

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Peak X-Men or why it might not

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necessarily be a great continuation of

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the original series and why I still

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think we can do a lot better with this

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but before we get into that let's get

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into the positive so the positives about

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this show first of all are cyclops and

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Gan gray if you are a cyclops and gray

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fan then I think that you will be very

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satisfied with this series Cyclops is

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really reinvigorated as a character now

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that is one thing that I think could

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have stood some improvement from the

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original cartoon series um Cyclops was

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very stiff in that show in this show

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he's very Dynamic like he's got that boy

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scout element to him but he's not a

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Captain America he's more flawed and you

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really you really get him as a whole I

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think that the voice actor did did a

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fantastic job with him uh his

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personality in this series I think Jean

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Gray was equally great I think that um

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they the way that they handled the

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meline prior stuff was overall rushed

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but I thought that the idea of it you

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know taking a very controversial

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storyline one that assassinated

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cyclops's character in the comics for

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those who don't know in the comics it

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made him marry meline prior and then

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leave her for uh Jean leave her and Nate

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for Jean when he found out she was alive

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but this show fixes that and it makes it

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so that it wasn't his fault he was

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essentially a victim and so if they ever

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adapt like the mine prior stuff in

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anything uh after this I think that this

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is a good Legacy of the show that they

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should do it the way the show did where

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Scott is a victim rather than the person

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who was acting out of character to get

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there and like I said Jean is very well

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done in the show personality-wise uh and

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other characters I think that

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Nightcrawler was done really well in the

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show I appreciate them giving a little

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bit more of his jokey side that we

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haven't seen so many adaptations of him

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have just portrayed him as you know

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stiff but uh Nightcrawler here is able

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to keep the religious aspect of his

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characters but also the jokey aspects I

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really glad that they kept him around

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and I was really entertained whenever he

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came on screen but I honestly thought

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that the best character in this entire

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show was Gambit and AJ lassio I just

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thought that he did an incredible job

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with getting barely any time while he

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was alive at least and I have my

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theories as to why he was made the

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designated Canon fod but I'll keep them

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to myself for now for what we got of him

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it was just like such a good adaptation

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of the character such a good voice I I

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loved whatever limited screen time that

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he had I would also like to say that I

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think that the animation in this show is

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really great some people criticize the

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animation most of all but I thought

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through and through it was really great

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I mean you can pick out some gaffs here

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and there but I just thought it was

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really great to look at through and

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through especially in the action

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sequences if you really slow down the

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action sequences you can see how there

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will choreograph with the moves and the

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decisions that characters make and I

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just think that it actually looks really

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stunning so I really enjoyed the

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animation in this show and like I said

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it's nice to be able to feel like you

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are back in the world of Marvel like

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after it seems like people have been

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trying to get away from it and the fox

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universes seemed like they were

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embarrassed by their Source material

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it's nice to feel like this is the world

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of Marvel and this is the universe that

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it works in and that people do care

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about the comic book Source material and

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they they know what they're pulling from

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but that in and of itself comes to what

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I think is the biggest problem with the

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show and so now I'm going to get into

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the negatives and the negatives is

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there's just so much shoved into this

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show and it's basically like five

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seasons of plot in 10 episodes and they

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try to adapt so many comic book

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storylines They're adapting Inferno

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trial of Magneto operation Zero

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Tolerance Life Death fatal attractions

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ephra Extinction along with uh that and

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original storylines that they're trying

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to develop for this 10 episode season

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and all that ask for screen time and the

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characters all the new characters

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they're bringing in that are asking for

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screen time you know some of these story

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lines that they're pulling from are an

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Omnibus worth of comics some of them

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could be an entire season of their own

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some of them could be entire movie of

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their own but it's all of them shoved at

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once and the result is that this is one

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of the most overstuffed shows that I've

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seen in a long time and that does

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something very very drastic to the

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show's pacing and the problem here is

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not that X-Men 97 is too fastpaced with

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all the stuff it's adapting it's that

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X-Men 97 essentially has no Pace

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seriously some storylines feel like

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they're on Fast Forward some stories

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feel like we're spending too much time

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on them some things feel like they

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didn't need to be there in the first

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place while other elements will appear

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and then completely disappear as quickly

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as they're introduced I think the most

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obvious one for this that people noticed

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was the handling of Storm's Life Death

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storyline and this is a very long uh

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very emotional Arc from the comics and I

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thought that it was going to be a slam

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dunk and be one of the most powerful

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elements of the show but what they

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choose to do is split it up into half

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episodes across two other episodes in

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the season so they have to share

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episodes with other storylines and even

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in the second one even though it's

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called Life Death part two it's actually

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a a show about Charles Xavier and the

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result is it's so rushed it comes off as

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embarrassing in some points like when

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you have um uh Forge seemingly meet uh

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storm in one scene and then five minutes

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or even a minute later he's declaring

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his eternal love for her and it's just

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so cringe and then but later than what

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could have been much more emotionally

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impactful moments and an exploration of

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this character doesn't land because it's

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all so rushed and they are changing

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Storm a bit from the comics so that now

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she she resents herself for being a

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mutant even though I don't think the

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character ever would do that it seems

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like they're just changing her to fit

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into their own Nar narrative and I might

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be able to get behind that for a new

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version but we just barely spend any

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time with her and after this uh like you

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know for a character who can fly she

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should have rejoined her friends

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immediately but she inexplicably stays

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away for a while before she comes back

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in the finale and then barely does

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anything there so like it's an example

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of how they're not able to handle all

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their storylines and they're not able to

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handle their characters I mean talk

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about in a minute there's an an element

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of the show where both morph and Rogue

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get hit by the same beam but for some

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reason Rogue is the only one who stays

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out for an entire episode and there's no

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explanation and well it's because they

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needed to write her to the side because

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they didn't have anything to do with her

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just then and they can't handle their

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cast and and some people might say that

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this is the fault of Disney for not

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giving them enough time but first of all

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for me like time limits for writers on

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books or Comics or shows uh there have

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always been a thing the the executives

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at hand will give you exactly how much

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time you have to tell a story and it's

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your job as a writer to be able to uh

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decide you know to use wisdom of of um

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can you adapt all of this can you do on

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this in such little time and I see it

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more of the show's problem where it's

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pushing in so much unnecessarily because

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it just wants to adapt so much and

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Achieve so much at once that it's

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collapsing in on itself I mean there's

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things in here that just didn't need to

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be here like there's characters like

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morph who does nothing essentially

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throughout the season except you C Ros

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that didn't need to be here we'll talk

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about other characters in a second but

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there's plot lines like you know

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Jubilee's Birthday Episode which doesn't

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seem to be entirely relevant to the

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series they tried to tie it in

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thematically but it was such a

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half-baked message and it was really

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really preachy that it just came off as

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embarrassing once again or the second

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part of Storm's episode where you have

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that entire thing we almost spend we

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spend most of the episode on Charles

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Xavier's impending marriage to Leandra

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but that ends up not having any meaning

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to the overall show and it's like so why

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did we waste our precious time on that

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but to me the worst done characters in

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this entire show were Sunspot and Rogue

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now Sunspot is a character who when he

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started and this was more of a mundane

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superhero show I was I liked him and I

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mean Sunspot is a character who in

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particular I'm not super familiar with

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from the comics because I haven't read

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New Mutants but I I liked him fine when

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he started out but then as the show

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changed its tone suddenly and became a

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much more darker more epic thing felt

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like his mundane storyline about not

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being able to come out as a mutant to

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his parents it felt like it didn't fit

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it felt like he had no connection to

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anyone except Jubilee who also wasn't

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really written with much connection to

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anything she was just like written off

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to the side and it just felt really

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really tacked on but he goes from not

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being able to come out to a mutant to be

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a mutant to his mother betraying him you

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know not having any connection to the

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X-Men or wanting one to joining with

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Magneto in his declared genocide of the

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entire Earth and now this is an

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important point that we have to hammer

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home Magneto has set off an EMP and the

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show says that he's killed thousands no

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he would have killed Millions with that

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EMP millions of mutants as well so but

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the show does not acknowledge that but

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um so so he's a with according to the

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show somehow there is a way for Magneto

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to reverse his EMP which I don't know

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how that works but if he doesn't then

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essentially the Earth magnetic field or

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ozone field or something is going to be

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destroyed something like that but

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essentially he's going to wipe out all

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life on Earth and that's going to mean

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humans animals and mutants he's going to

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wipe out everyone essentially so Roberto

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goes from not having any part of this to

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his mother betraying him to him deciding

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I'm going to join this Mass murdering

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terrorist in his genocide genocide of

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the entire Earth and uh so that's crazy

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and then Rogue you know I once again I

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thought she was just done really badly

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throughout the entire show where she's

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nothing but a background character who

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barely has anything to do in the first

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half of it she's not really a character

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at all what we did get I felt was out of

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character which is why I was against

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them doing the whole Magneto Rogue thing

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which they did not make any better from

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the comics they made it I would I I'm

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going to say something positive about

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Magneto and Rog now I would gladly read

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what they are in the comics compared to

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what they do with them in the show but

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that's beside the point right now did

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not feel like she was well done and then

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the reason like people misinterpreted

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the reason for why I didn't like her

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joining Magneto was cuz I can't stand

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seeing the character do anything bad no

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I felt like this was taking the

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character beyond the point of no return

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to have her you know disparage her

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friends and join with the guy who is

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about to wipe up everyone including her

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own people she say she's joining with

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him because she won't see any more

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mutants die but he's about to kill all

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the mutants on Earth as well and and I'm

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like you know there's no way that you're

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going to be able to come back from this

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but then in the next

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episode I mean at the end of this

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episode Roberto and Rogue see Magneto

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rip

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uh uh Wolverine skeleton right out for

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him and and you're like you know this is

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going to have major consequences but in

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the next episode they just act like the

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Rogue and Roberto betrayal never

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happened like like

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like like Rogue is just back to normal

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like everyone was defending her decision

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to join Magneto oh she's just consumed

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with this unbridled grief and rage but

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it's not even that you you know uh

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there's no scene of her going oh my

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goodness have I done there's no scene of

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catharsis of her realizing what Gambit

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would want or something like that she's

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she there's no no explanation for either

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Roberto or Rogue they're just back on

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the team there's no hard feelings no one

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mentions it they don't behave as though

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it just happened Rogue is in the best of

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spirits just happily fighting on the

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people that she should have been

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fighting in the first place and it's

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like it feels like there's scenes

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missing it's like what what happened

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here and what is going on why would they

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do this tramatic scene of these

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characters betraying their friends uh

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for questionable reasons in the first

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place if they weren't going to do

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anything with that and the answer is

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because Bo Deo wanted to to um reference

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the Fatal Attraction storyline from the

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comics where Colossus betrays his

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friends but the difference there is you

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see in the comics Colossus once he

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realizes his mistake doesn't he doesn't

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instantly uh have all of his grief

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evaporate and he doesn't instantly

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become buddies with everyone again no he

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has to he has to he feels like he has to

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tone for that there's still a lot of

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negative feelings in him and that's

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because that's what happens when you're

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writing a story naturally and you're

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doing a natural progression but this

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this story doesn't have that it feels

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like they just wanted their comic book

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reference and then when it was

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convenience they forgot about it it it

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it's crazy and there's more to that

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later but um I mean beyond that though

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like I said the show doesn't want to uh

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like like we see Logan getting a

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skeleton ripped out but the show doesn't

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want to

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accept consequences and it's ironic

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because Bodo said behind the scenes that

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this is a show all about consequences

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but it seems that those consequences

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will disappear whenever he needs them to

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for example you know Magneto has not

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just killed thousands he would have

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killed millions of people with the his

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EMP he's been fighting the X-Men for

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years and doing all these horrible

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things uh he was about to genocide the

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entire Earth essentially he rips out a

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man's skeleton from him and then he he's

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doing all of these heinous things but

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then in this episode in this finale

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apparently all that needs to happen is

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for Charles to sit in his mind and talk

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to him and it's better and and Magneto

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gets to a point where he decides that he

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wants to save the Earth and that now

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he's just buddies with everyone again

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and it it's like what what is going on

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here and the is so confusing but it got

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even worse as I thought about it cuz I'm

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like what are they trying to say with

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all of this and it goes back to that

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scene with Magneto and episode 2 where

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uh she says that he wore the helmet that

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apparently blocked out Charles's mind

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from him because he didn't want to feel

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Charles's love for him or he wouldn't be

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able to do what he does and

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I'm okay first of all that wasn't a

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thing in the original show because it

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wasn't a thing in the comics uh

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Magneto's helmet did not block out

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Charles Xavier's mind originally and you

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see that in the show that was something

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invented in the movies because they just

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wanted an explanation for why uh

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uh Charles just couldn't detect Magneto

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so it was supposed to make it so that

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Magneto couldn't be found out this show

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is retconning it in and making it out

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about how as if Magneto wore the helmet

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in order to block out Charles's love for

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him so that he wouldn't uh change so he

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would keep on his Rampage and so now

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that it's off now everything all of this

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conflict with Magneto all the things

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that he's done all the fighting all of

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the mass murder is over because Charles

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got to spend some time time with Magneto

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in his head uh and talking about uh

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their problem his problems

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and I'm sorry that is the stupidest

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thing I've ever heard it's it's crazy

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it's just craziness and it's it just

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comes off as the writer's bias because

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if you follow Bo Deo on Twitter he's

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been tweeting constantly and and it

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really gives insight into how he thinks

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for this show he loves Magneto and he's

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talked about how he really identifies

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with the character so that's why I think

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that the show really really tries to

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make Magneto as sympathetic and

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understandable as possible that's why I

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think that it gives him so much leeway

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with everything with plot armor for how

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he survived which by the way is never

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actually explained in the Show how he

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survived josha he he just has plot armor

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you know why everyone is so forgiving to

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him uh why the show leans into his

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ideology so much which we'll get into in

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a second but um that that just exposes

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the bias of the writer not the logical

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and I think that the bias is exposed by

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the fact that he needed to have the

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fatal attractions reference here because

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he's talked about how that's his

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favorite storyline of all time you know

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other things that expose the bias of the

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writer is this Gene and storm friendship

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that's really pushed hard and I mean

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there's nothing wrong which making Gan

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and storm really close friends that's

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the thing in the comics but the problem

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is it wasn't a thing in the original

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show like a storm was close with Rogue

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in the original show and she was close

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with Gambit and so you think that maybe

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more naturally in the story maybe you

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would give storm and Rogue a moment

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where storm comes back and is able to

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help her come out of her grief you know

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so we could actually see this

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character's Arc complete on screen and

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actually feel more natural you know I

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thought we were going to get you stuff

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with like does Rogue feel really guilty

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that she basically broke Gambit's heart

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before he died does that um is that

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what's adding to her grief on top of

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that but we never get any of that

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explored with Rogue storyline it feels

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like this is this massive story arc that

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you want to tell this massively

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emotional story AR but it's like we

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don't actually it's like most of it

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plays offc screen and it doesn't make

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sense and she's inconsistent but um like

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why don't you have a scene where Storm

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reacts to Gambit's death or a scene

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where you know storm is able to bring uh

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Rogue out of her misery and maybe the

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big scene of Rogues catharsis could be

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her rejecting Magneto's offer to join

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them or maybe we have a scene with

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Sunspot where he admits that he should

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join the team because he just can't uh

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he just can't um uh he has nowhere else

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to go but we don't get any of that but

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we do get these you know scenes of Gan

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and storm being that's the best of

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friends even though they weren't really

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that seen that way in the original show

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uh we get scenes of betrayal that don't

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really go anywhere and it just seems

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like the writer's bias again because

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he's made it very clear online that he

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really likes Gan and Storm's friendship

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and that appears to be why he's laying

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it on so thick even though there's other

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things that would have been more

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beneficial to the narrative to develop

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um you know I don't think that Sunspot

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really needed to be in the show at all

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for example um and it's it's like we

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can't have a scene of storm of a rogue

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overcoming her grief actually having a

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catharsis uh we can't have scenes that

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actually explain how uh Magneto survived

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josha we can't have scenes that have

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storm actually react to Gambit's death

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but we can have a scene of Bastion

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shaving Magneto which didn't go anywhere

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I thought it was going to go somewhere I

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thought oh maybe he's transforming him

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into something no it's inexplicable why

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Bastion even kept mag to Alive

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presumably cuz he just ruined everything

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and that's the problem with this show

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it's like I can never count on anything

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that's going to happen it it

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sporadically changes a a at the moment

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and I'm not even sure because so so much

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of it is so scarcely developed I'm not

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sure how much of it is because um the

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writers forgot about something or

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because it's just moving along so fast

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that they had to cut so much out and

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because they have to stuff so much in

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and that unfortunately leads to the

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themes of the show as well and this show

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has a lot of themes in it about you know

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um tragedy bigotry obviously and how

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people deal with it some individual

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episodes I thought did do a good job of

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that but the problem is when you get to

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the end and the overall point of it um

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for episode upon episode even going back

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to episode four with Jubilee's birthday

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this show was really trying to push the

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idea that Magneto is right and that his

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Bleak ideology is actually correct and

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that we always will put ourselves into

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these situations of mass murder and

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bigotry and that maybe violence against

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that is the and tyranny is the only way

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to come against it it seemed that the

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show was pushing that so hard especially

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with characters like Cyclops and Beast

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seemingly losing their way starting to

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believe in M Magneto's ideology it just

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seemed to be pushing that so hard and

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that's part of what made the show feel

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so Bleak and I wasn't a fan of that but

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that was the direction but then when we

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get to the last episode it's like

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everything's completed by uh a cyclops

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just all of a sudden has this sort of

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friendship speech with Bastion the guy

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who murdered all these mutants the guy

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who M murdered their close friend you

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know he just gives him a really

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understanding speech about family and

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empathy and all that and it just felt

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like it was out of nowhere and that it

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hadn't been built up to or supported by

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the season at all and it was honestly

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kind of cringe and uh uh you know Rogue

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has gone from you know wanting to betray

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all her friends and wanting to genocide

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the Earth over Gambit to perfectly

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dealing with Gambit's death perfectly

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fine to now she's going there and

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actually encouraging Bastion to listen

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to Cyclops and it's this guy who she was

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just pummeling and and wanting to get

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revenge on because he killed Gambit and

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it's like there's no consistency in this

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entire show like even thematically it's

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just all so random and it just goes

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wherever the show wants it to go and

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it's just so crazy like like none of it

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makes any sense and you know ju just to

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give an example of just how sporadic

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this show is for example they keep

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really pushing this Magneto Rogue thing

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and once again they made it far worse

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than in the comics but I understood what

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they were doing with him as soon as I

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saw Bo deo's tweets about how much he

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loves AOA Age of Apocalypse how much he

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loves uh the idea of Rog and Magneto as

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a power couple and I'm like that's been

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that's the problem that I understand now

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with the show is you're not adapting the

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616 versions of these characters you're

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adapting Age of Apocalypse where Rogue

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was a completely different character in

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order to just facilitate the role of

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Magneto's wife and where Magneto was a a

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good person in that universe but so that

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said I don't like that they're

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continuing with that but I don't know

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how they are going to I don't know if

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Magneto and Rogue are going to be in a

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platonic relationship like Magneto

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accepts her decision to reject him I

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don't know if Magneto is still going to

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try to pursue Rogue I don't know if

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Rogue is going to think that Gambit is

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dead so maybe she should go with this

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guy I don't know if they're going to

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make it so um ma Rogue marries Magneto

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and has a child with him before she can

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get back to Gambit like happened in the

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AOA Universe I wouldn't put pass bod Deo

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to do that but I don't know if they're

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going to just forget that that Magneto

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Rogue plot line happened at all or if

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this stuff with the alternate timelines

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is going to take up half an episode or

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an entire season because that's just how

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nonpaced this show is there's no Pace

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whatsoever there's no consistency and

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that's what frustrated me to the point

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where I'm just so turned off by it

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because it's it's like I can end one

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episode seeing these plot lines and

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thinking that there's a way that that's

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they're going to go and want to see the

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payoff for that before things are

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forgotten or or go in a completely

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different direction because there's just

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nothing consistent with it and uh like

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people can talk about the flaws of X-Men

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92 or X-Men evolution or Wolverine in

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the X-Men the Animated shows that have

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come out prior to this and they

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definitely had their flaws but with each

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of those shows they're at least

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consistent with what they are they're

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far more consistent with what they are

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than this show and uh you know I just

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think that we're all on a high because

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we really wanted to get something that

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was accurate to the comics and it is but

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it's to the point where there's so much

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stuffed in and so much of it that

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doesn't even add up with the '90s show

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even it's just the writer's preference

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so much that he shoehorned I would say

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even just for his own you know fanboyism

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because he wanted to see it that so

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little of it makes any sense and it's

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really turned me off for the show

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because I would want the next season to

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streamline it and not have so much in it

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at once and not be pushing that so hard

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I hope that there's changes but as of

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now I'm just not seeing this as the

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brilliant Masterpiece that people think

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it is does it have its high points yes

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but the low lows really undercut what it

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was trying to do in my opinion I don't

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know how you can make a show about

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consequences when the consequences will

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evaporate as soon as you need them to I

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don't know how you can say that how you

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need to be really careful about

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respecting the low of the original show

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when you'll rcon things in just because

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they're your personal preference I you

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know I don't know why bod Deo was fired

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for sure but just looking at him as a

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professional and people praising him as

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some genius I don't really see it like I

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I'm just going to go back to what

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somebody in the comment said about this

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show while I was reviewing it is that

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they think that the Paradox with this

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show is it's written by people who

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actually care about the comics but

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aren't that skilled as writers and I

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would agree with that because there's

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just not a lot of discernment in the

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show of like maybe we don't need to

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adapt all of this at once maybe we need

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to focus on just making this the most

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coherent uh impactful story that we can

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rather than shoving all of this in and I

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think that that is what went on with

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this show and the reason why I want to

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speak on that is because I still think

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that there is so much better that we

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could do with the X-Men like I would

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actually prefer going back to X-Men

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evolution and X-Men 92 over this show

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and uh I think that you know people

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saying this should be a blueprint for

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the movies I'm like I would hope that a

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movie could be more cohesive than this

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because here's what I think is going to

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happen with this show I think it's going

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to be that people are really praising it

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as a 10 out of 10 now because they're on

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a hype from all the highs but I think as

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time passes they're going the flaws are

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going to come through and it's not going

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to be as great to revisit and so

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unfortunately that's what I got to say

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about this show I appreciate that them

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getting people who actually cared about

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the comics to work on it but I don't

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think that uh this is the best

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representation of that in the movies in

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the Dark Knight movies and the Avengers

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and movies and like that we saw a better

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balance of people who knew who were able

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to respect the source material but also

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know what they were doing and what we

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really need is balance going forward but

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yeah so that's why X-Men 97 frustrated

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me and ultimately disappointed me and I

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mean look at the high I was when this

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show first came out I wasn't willing to

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look at any of its flaws uh because I

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was just on such a hype from it but I

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think that it's not going to really hold

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up and I still want to push for better

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with these characters but that is all I

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got for you guys today I hope that even

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if you disagree you can at least see

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where my criticisms are coming from uh

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thank you for watching this video thank

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you patrons as always for supporting and

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I will see you guys next time

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