These RTX 5090 specs are unbelievable. - Tech News Sept 29
Summary
TLDRIn this episode of Paul's Tech News, a surge of rumors surrounds NVIDIA's upcoming RTX 5090 and 5080 GPUs, boasting impressive specs, with launches possibly in 2025. AMD is expected to release the Ryzen 9800x3D in October, while Intel grapples with CPU bugs and a declining GPU market share. Rumors also circulate about a potential buyout of Intel by Qualcomm or ARM, though it seems unlikely. Additional highlights include AMD's AI Max APUs and Intel’s Battle Mage GPUs. The episode ends with a unique caffeinated ramen product and a standout PC build turned into a lamp.
Takeaways
- 🖥️ NVIDIA RTX 5090 and 5080 rumors suggest massive performance leaps, with the 5090 potentially featuring 32 GB of GDDR7 memory and 21,760 CUDA cores.
- ⚡ AMD might launch the 9800x3D CPU in October 2024, with additional high-performance Ryzen AI Max chips rumored for 2025.
- 💻 Intel is struggling with its GPU market share, which has dropped to nearly zero, but new Battle Mage GPUs could potentially improve their position in 2024.
- 🔧 Intel has fixed issues with its 13th and 14th-gen CPUs related to vmin shift instability, but older CPUs affected by the issue remain irreparable.
- 🚀 The RTX 50 Series could be announced at CES 2025, with the 5090 using a two-slot cooler, possibly with liquid cooling to manage its massive power consumption.
- 🛑 AMD's Ryzen AI Max lineup is rumored to feature powerful integrated graphics, rivaling entry-level discrete GPUs, and will likely be launched in early 2025.
- 🏢 Intel could face a potential buyout, with companies like Qualcomm or ARM rumored to be interested, although this is likely speculation.
- 🎮 Boost Noodle has launched caffeinated ramen for gamers, available in convenient squeeze pouches for quick consumption during gaming sessions.
- 🛠️ A beautiful DIY lamp PC build from MXC Builds on YouTube has garnered attention for its creative design and high-quality craftsmanship.
- 📈 AMD's upcoming motherboards, the X870 and X870E, are expected to launch soon, possibly alongside the 9800x3D CPU for optimal compatibility.
Q & A
What are the rumored specifications for the RTX 5090 GPU?
-The RTX 5090 is rumored to have 32 GB of GDDR7 on a 512-bit bus, a GB202-300-A1 Blackwell GPU with 21760 CUDA cores, and potentially require 600 watts of power, possibly referring to TDP or TGP.
What is the potential power requirement for the RTX 5090 GPU?
-The RTX 5090 is rumored to have a power requirement of 600 watts, which could refer to either TDP or TGP, and might come with two 12V2x6 connectors capable of delivering up to 600 watts each.
What are the speculated features of the RTX 5090 Founders Edition cooler?
-The RTX 5090 Founders Edition is speculated to feature a two-slot cooler and might include an all-in-one liquid water cooling solution to manage the heat output of the GPU.
What is the expected performance difference between the RTX 5080 and RTX 5090 GPUs?
-The RTX 5080 is expected to have half the performance of the RTX 5090, with 84 streaming multiprocessors, 10,752 CUDA cores, and 16GB of 256-bit GDDR7 compared to the 5090's 170 streaming multiprocessors, 21760 CUDA cores, and 32GB of GDDR7.
When might we expect the AMD 9800X3D CPU to launch?
-There are rumors that AMD might launch the 9800X3D CPU in October, possibly to coincide with or precede Intel's desktop Core Ultra 200 series launch.
What is the potential impact of the AMD 9800X3D on Intel's planned CPU launch?
-The potential launch of the AMD 9800X3D in October could spoil Intel's planned desktop Core Ultra 200 series launch, as it might attract attention and competition in the high-performance CPU market.
What are the rumored specifications for AMD's Ryzen AI Max lineup?
-The Ryzen AI Max lineup is rumored to include models with up to 16 Zen 5 cores, up to 40 RDNA 3.5 compute units for the iGPU, and support for up to 273 GB per second peak bandwidth with an 8-channel DDR5 memory controller.
How might AMD's Ryzen AI Max lineup affect the market for entry-level discrete graphics cards?
-The Ryzen AI Max lineup, with its powerful integrated graphics, could potentially reduce the market for entry-level discrete graphics cards, as the iGPU performance might approach or surpass that of budget discrete cards.
What is the current status of Intel's 13th and 14th gen CPUs in terms of stability?
-Intel has reportedly fixed issues with their 13th and 14th gen CPUs related to vmin shift instability, which caused operational issues. However, the fix requires a BIOS update that has only recently been sent to motherboard manufacturers.
What is the significance of Intel's rumored sale to another tech company?
-The rumor of Intel being sold to another tech company like Qualcomm or ARM suggests potential financial or strategic challenges for Intel, although such rumors are likely speculative and have been denied by Intel.
What is the current state of Intel's GPU market share?
-Intel's GPU market share has reportedly dropped to effectively zero, indicating significant challenges for their Arc series of graphics cards in the market.
Outlines
💻 Tech News Roundup - Nvidia, AMD, and Intel Updates
Paul starts his tech news video with a light-hearted introduction about the abundance of tech news, comparing it to a packed CD collection. He highlights new rumors about Nvidia’s RTX 5090 and 5080, potential GPU launches from AMD, and concerns about Intel's declining GPU market share. Nvidia’s RTX 5090 and 5080 specs are leaked, featuring high-end hardware such as the Blackwell GPU with monstrous CUDA cores and power consumption. AMD might launch its Ryzen AI Max lineup soon, and Intel has resolved issues with its 13th and 14th gen CPUs, though the fixes come with some complexity.
📅 AMD CPU Rumors and Intel's Core Ultra Launch
Paul discusses AMD’s rumored 9800X3D CPU launch, potentially in October, contradicting earlier reports of a 2025 release. AMD's new motherboard lineup (x870 series) is expected to launch soon, though the separation of motherboard and CPU launches is unusual. Paul speculates that the limited availability of AMD’s current 7800X3D could signal the 9800X3D’s arrival. AMD’s Ryzen AI Max APU lineup is also rumored to launch in 2025, with integrated graphics expected to provide significant performance boosts, particularly in gaming and AI applications.
🎮 Intel’s GPU Woes and Battle Mage Prospects
Intel’s GPU market share has plummeted to nearly zero, despite an overall market growth in discrete GPU sales. Paul notes the bleak future of Intel’s Arc series but remains cautiously optimistic about the next-gen Battle Mage GPUs, which could potentially regain Intel’s foothold in the mid-range market. A leaked benchmark for the mid-tier Arc BMG G21 shows it could compete with Nvidia’s RTX 4060. However, Intel's overall struggles, such as profitability concerns and rumors of being sold to larger companies like Qualcomm, cast a shadow over their future.
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Keywords
💡RTX 50 Series
💡AMD 9800X3D
💡Ryzen AI Max
💡Intel Arc GPUs
💡Consumer Electronics Show (CES) 2025
💡BattleMage
💡Vmin Shift Instability
💡Discrete GPU Market Share
💡PCI Express 5.0
💡Geekbench Leak
Highlights
New rumors about NVIDIA RTX 5090 and 5080 indicate massive specs for the 5090, including 32GB of GDDR7 on a 512-bit bus and 21,760 CUDA cores.
The RTX 5090 may have a 600-watt power draw, requiring two 12v2x6 connectors and potentially featuring an all-in-one liquid cooling solution.
The RTX 5080 is rumored to be significantly less powerful than the 5090, with 10,752 CUDA cores and 16GB of GDDR7 on a 256-bit bus.
AMD's Ryzen 9800X3D could launch in October, possibly spoiling Intel's Arrow Lake S CPU launch, expected on October 10th.
AMD's Ryzen AI Max APUs are expected in early 2025, boasting up to 16 CPU cores and 40 RDNA 3.5 compute units for potentially high-end gaming performance.
The Ryzen AI Max APU’s 40 compute units on the integrated GPU place its performance between AMD's RX 7600 XT and RX 7700 XT discrete GPUs.
Intel has reportedly fixed the vmin shift instability issue with their 13th and 14th gen CPUs via a microcode patch, but if the shift has already occurred, it's irreversible.
Intel's discrete GPU market share has dropped to effectively zero, despite a 48% increase in the overall GPU market.
Intel's next-gen Battlemage GPUs are being developed, with the mid-tier model (G21) expected to have 160 compute units and 12GB of memory.
AMD's X870 and X870 motherboards are launching soon, possibly ahead of the Ryzen 9800X3D, which could create a gap in consumer demand.
Rumors about Intel being bought by Qualcomm or ARM were addressed, though Intel has reportedly shut down these speculations.
Boost Noodle, caffeinated ramen noodles designed for gamers, has been introduced, offering a quick energy boost during gaming sessions.
A DIY PC build by mxc Builds, featured as a lamp PC, showcases a creative fusion of desktop lighting and functional computing with high attention to detail.
The new Corsair 3500x mid-tower computer case offers a spacious design, supporting EATX motherboards and up to 10 fans with excellent cable routing features.
Paul's Hardware has expanded its merchandise store, offering new desk mats, shirts, and more, alongside channel memberships for additional content and support.
Transcripts
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Welcome back to Paul's Tech News there's not a moment to waste because this week was more
jam-packed than your parents Now That's What I Call Music CD collection most notably we have a
flurry of new RTX 5090 and 5080 rumors as well as possible other 50 Series GPUs in the works
AMD might actually be launching the 9800x3d in October after all and their Ryzen AI Max lineup
is looking quite beastly and as for Intel well the company might be sold off entirely and their
GPU market share has dropped to effectively zero but on the plus side they've fixed the problems
with their 13th and 14th gen CPUs. Again. I hope everyone's wearing their protective
gear because things are going to get messy on this week's episode of tech news. Negra Modelo.
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talk about the latest news on the launch that everyone has been waiting for nvidia's RTX 50
Series on the plus side we had a major increase in online Buzz starting Thursday but on the
minus side it's all still based on Twitter leaks. videocardz.com quickly picked up on these posts
from the notorious but often reliable Kopite7Kimi who seems to be rather confidently listing the
specs for both the RTX 5080 and RTX 5090 and they are quite monstrous if true for the 5090 at least
32 GB of gddr7 on a 512-bit bus not 448 bit as previously rumored coupled with the GB202-300-A1
Blackwell GPU which has 21760 Cuda cores. we're not sure if the 600 wats of power refers to TDP
or TGP but either way it lends some credibility to rumors of 5090s in development with two 12v2x6
connectors which can push up to 600 watts each further details still Rumors trickled in on Friday
indicating that the 5090 Founders Edition will feature a 14 layer PCB a PCI Express 5.0 interface
display port 2.1 with UHBR20 support for up to 80 Gbps of video signal bandwidth and somehow
a two slot cooler prompting many to speculate that they'll be going with an all-in-one liquid
water cooling solution to tame this Blackwell Beast. The 5080 meanwhile is less impressive as
it looks like half a 5090 or worse going by the specs: 84 streaming multiprocessors versus 170,
10,752 Cuda cores versus 21760, and 16GB of 256bit gddr7 versus 32GB. power draw is at 400 watts and
the 5080 will apparently use a different die the GB 203-400-A1 this would indicate another
sizable performance delta between the 5080 and 5090 likely even more so than the 4080 to 4090
jump but it does leave more room for in between gpus like a 5080 Ti or super or Ti super or just
a 5080 with more vram since gddr7 is expected in 2 gig and 3 gig modules a 24GB gddr7 5080 or 5080
Ti or super or Ti super is also likely to emerge case in point another Twitter leaker harukaze5719,
who I trust slightly more than kopite7Kimi because harukaze gave me a follow back,
posted this shipping manifest of supposed RTX 50 Series SKUs Friday morning with seven
models listed all supposedly using variants of the 5080's GB203 die or the 5090's GB202
die both dieses appear to be pin compatible opening up a wide variety of possible PCB and
cooler configurations and apart from the 5080 and 5090 Founders Edition and reference models
there are still three unidentified models on this list which raises new questions but the
biggest one is still when the RTX 50 Series will launch and that is still very much up in the air
could still be this year but the most recent semi confident answer comes from The Verge:
"we might hear more about the RTX 50 Series at the Consumer Electronics Show in early 2025."
Speaking of Highly anticipated but unknown product launches the 9800x3D amd's presumed successor to
the 7800x3D and best CPU for gaming was said to be coming in Q4 and then it was said it got pushed to
2025 and now maybe they'll actually still launch it in October nothing is certain until AMD makes
an announcement and even then things can change but according to the chip hell forums AMD is
back on track for an October surprise to spoil Intel's upcoming desktop core Ultra 200 series
launch AKA Arrow Lake S which again rumors will be announced on October 10th and launched on the 24th
engineering sample pictures have also just popped up this week but amd's new motherboard lineup x870
and x870 is still supposed to launch next week not in late October so it seems odd to me that
they would separate these two events motherboards launching without new CPUs alongside them don't
typically sell well and the ryzen 9000 CPU series hasn't exactly been flying off the shelves as we
discussed last week still the recent lack of 7800x3ds on the market has caused their price
to Skyrocket up over $500 so that could be an indication that AMD is limiting availability
leading into the 9800x3d launch according to the leaker there will also be a 9900x3d and
9950x3d coming in 2025 -- after the 9800x3D does a standalone debut next month -- but personally I'm
going to wait for amd's formal announcement before I go cancelling my Halloween plans. the other big
AMD leak this week was about their ryzen AI Max apus which are CP us with integrated Graphics
previously known by their code name strix Halo amd's apus have always outperformed Intel on the
graphics side but they've never offered better than entry-level gaming performance maybe on par
with a $100 to $150 discreet card that might all change with the launch of the ryzen AI Max lineup
coming in early 2025 per leaker Golden Pig upgrade pack on Twitter there are three new apus listed
the ryzen AI Max Plus 395 with 16 Zen 5 cores and 40 rdna 3.5 compute units the AI Max 390 with 12
CPU cores and 40 igpu compute units and the AI Max 385 eight cores on the CPU side 32 compute
units for the igpu please do note that that 40 compute unit 2560 stream processor igpu on paper
at least Falls somewhere between an RX 7600 XT with 32 compute units and an RX 7700 XT with 54
compute units and those cards sell for $300 to $400 each I appreciate that there are 12 and 16
core versions of strix Halo meaning a 2 CPU CCD chiplet configuration and also consider that an
xdna 2 npu is included for AI as well as a double wide memory controller with 8 channel ddr5 via a
256bit LPddr5x memory interface for up to 273 GB per second Peak bandwidth meaning high performance
machines that pair up to 128, 256, or 512 GB of ddr5 could potentially allocate 96GB just for the
igpu remember igpu use use system Ram so having 8 channel high bandwidth memory and lots of it has
huge potential for boosting gaming performance and I know there are at least a few AI nerds out there
who are freaking out a little about having as much as 96GB of vram to work with the latest geekbench
database leak shows performance for the 12 core AI Max 390 but numbers seem held back a bit possibly
by early drivers or a poor quality engineering sample ryzen AI Max will likely be used in top-end
portable gaming devices but will be equally useful in high performance laptops and workstations I
sure hope they make a socketed version moving on to Intel news we have good news for those with
infinite patience Intel has fixed the problems with their 13th and 14th gen CPUs again so
everyone update your BIOSes again because this time I'm like 80% sure they've fixed it for good
the problem, which has been obvious to most of us the whole time, was with vmin shift instability
or the minimum operating voltage of the CPU shifting which caused instability why isn't
so good at accurately naming their CPU bugs but then they call their new CPUs core Ultra 9 285k
anyway there are four possible things that might cause this vmin shift instability issue which made
it a pain in the ass to track down for Intel but they've now identified some of the some some yes
some of the causes others remain shrouded in mystery still so on the plus side Intel seems
to have made some progress here but on the minus side the micro code patch that at least partially
fixes the problem has only just been sent to motherboard manufacturers so it will likely
be a few days if not a week or two before they're made available via bios updates and even more on
the minus side the vmin shift situation is a one way street the new micro code should prevent it
happening but if your CPU is already vmin shifted it is irreversible like my raincoat so I guess the
advice for 13th and 14th gen CPU users would be to stop using your PCS for a few days or a week
or two until these updates are available otherwise you might get vmin shafted. I just made that up
speaking of bad news for Intel their current GPU situation is not looking good you'd have to be
pretty generous to call their first gen Arc series a success and future plans have been overshadowed
by delays layoffs and Intel's very public struggles with profitability so news this week
that their market share has dropped to effectively zero for John Petty research doesn't help the
situation and this came from the same report that optimistically showed a 48% increase in
Q2 for discrete GPU sales Market wide meaning this really is an Intel Arc problem still there is hope
another geekbench leak Wednesday showed a device ID previously associated with Intel's next gen
battle mage gpus which appears to be from an arc BMG g21 GPU this is the mid-tier model equipped
with 160 compute units via 20 xc2 cores 12 GB of memory and it was running at 2,850 MHz clock
speed you might also note that there is a bigger g31 GPU that will be the battle mage Flagship the
g21 score of 97,98 in the open CL test puts it between the last gen A750 and A770 though or just
shy of an RTX 4060 which isn't a bad spot to be in at this point since Intel will likely be able
to unlock more performance with optimizations and Driver updates so despite all the bitterness and
hatred in the world I am cautiously optimistic that battle mage which might still launch with
desktop cards in 2024 (haha of course I didn't say 2022) per rumors will help Arc regain its foothold
in the entry level to mid-range Market before Intel as a company collapses entirely speaking
of collapsing entirely I have collapsed the of the show down into a super dense and highly volatile
substance that we should consume as soon as we can Tech briefs another Intel story bouncing around
earlier this week was that they might just get completely bought out by a larger tech company
specifically Qualcomm or arm and that would be incredibly embarrassing for big blue but it's
also most likely not true or if true it was one of those might as well ask situations that Intel
has quickly shut down whether it was an offer for the product side of their business or the
Fabs after Intel told them to go pound sand arm and Qualcomm said actually we heard that's what
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