Nikki Haley says Trump has always been 'his own worst enemy’: Full interview

NBC News
28 Jan 202423:32

Summary

TLDRIn an interview, Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley discusses the pressure from Trump and the RNC to drop out of the race. She stands firm, arguing the people should decide the nominee, not the party elite. Haley addresses Trump's personal attacks on her, saying they don't hurt her, but show he feels threatened. She argues Trump is declining mentally, ranting when insecure, and needs to step aside. Haley says Republicans and Democrats must secure the border immediately, no more excuses. She would not yet endorse a theoretical border security bill or commit to endorsing Trump as the nominee, focusing entirely on defeating him for the good of the country.

Takeaways

  • 🔵 Nikki Haley emphasizes her resilience against what she perceives as bullying from Donald Trump and criticizes the political elite for inefficiency in addressing key issues like wasteful spending, border security, and global safety.
  • 🔵 Haley expresses disagreement with the RNC's early push to unify the Republican Party around Trump, advocating for a democratic process that respects the choices of all American voters across all states.
  • 🔵 Haley outlines her stance on term limits, mental competency tests for politicians, and accountability in budget management as measures to combat the inefficiency of the political class.
  • 🔵 Despite Trump's significant lead and endorsements in South Carolina, Haley remains confident in her grassroots support and emphasizes her history of overcoming establishment opposition.
  • 🔵 Haley critiques the RNC and Trump for attempting to prematurely decide the Republican nominee, advocating for a process that allows voters to have their say.
  • 🔵 Haley is critical of Trump's legal distractions, arguing they divert attention from critical issues like the economy, border security, education, and law and order.
  • 🔵 Haley commits to staying in the presidential race as long as she sees growth in her support per state, emphasizing a strategy focused on building momentum.
  • 🔵 Haley questions the effectiveness of a potential pause in Israeli military operations in Gaza, highlighting concerns over giving Hamas time to regroup.
  • 🔵 Responding to attacks from Trump, including questioning her eligibility for presidency based on her heritage, Haley dismisses these as signs of his insecurity and emphasizes her focus on policy over personal attacks.
  • 🔵 Haley vehemently states she does not aim to be vice president under anyone, focusing solely on her presidential campaign and criticizing Trump's ability to lead effectively.

Q & A

  • What is Ambassador Haley's response to calls from Trump and the RNC for her to exit the presidential race?

    -Haley says Trump cannot 'bully his way through the nomination' and argues the RNC should not be deciding the nominee after only two states have voted. She wants to let the process play out.

  • Does Haley think she needs to win the South Carolina primary to stay viable?

    -Haley says she does not necessarily need an outright win in South Carolina but needs to build momentum by improving on her second place finish in New Hampshire. She plans to stay in the race through Super Tuesday.

  • How does Haley respond to Trump's attacks on her background and eligibility?

    -Haley laughs them off and says Trump lashes out when he feels threatened or insecure. She calls the attacks racist but does not directly say Trump is racist.

  • What is Haley's view on the border security negotiations in Congress?

    -Haley says Republicans and Democrats should not leave Washington until they reach a deal. She wants provisions like Remain in Mexico reinstated but is unsure if she would sign the current bill.

  • Would Haley support a temporary truce between Israel and Hamas?

    -Haley says the US should support the truce if Israel agrees, but she worries Hamas will use the time to rearm and plan further attacks on Israel.

  • How does Haley respond to a swatting incident at her home?

    -Haley says it endangered her elderly parents and law enforcement. She views it as an example of the chaos in the country that needs to end.

  • Is Haley concerned about political violence?

    -Yes, Haley says she has received threats on the campaign trail. She worries for her kids and says it shows the division in the country that needs healing.

  • Has Haley ruled out serving as Trump's running mate?

    -Yes, Haley reiterates she does not want to be anyone's vice president and is focused only on winning the Republican nomination.

  • Would Haley endorse Trump if he wins the nomination?

    -Haley avoids directly answering, only saying she is focused on defeating Trump for the nomination, not on endorsements.

  • What does Haley see as her path to beating Biden in a general election?

    -Haley says polls show she would beat Biden by double digits, giving her a mandate to cut wasteful spending and secure the border.

Outlines

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😀 Haley on Trump pressuring RNC and path forward

Haley responded to Trump pressuring the RNC to endorse him, saying he can't bully the nomination. She discussed her path forward, saying she needs to build momentum and be stronger in each state. She is focused on defeating Trump and will stay in the race through Super Tuesday.

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😊 Haley on needing to win South Carolina

When pressed on whether she needs to win her home state of South Carolina, Haley said she needs to show she's building momentum and be stronger than New Hampshire. She doesn't think she necessarily has to win but has to be close and continue narrowing the margin.

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😐 Haley avoids calling Trump attacks racist

Asked about Trump's birther-style attacks on her background, Haley laughed them off and said they don't hurt her feelings. Pressed on whether they are racist, she deferred, saying it's for others to decide but they show his unpresidential behavior.

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😕 Haley on border deal and shutting down border

Haley said Republicans shouldn't leave DC without a border deal. She hasn't seen this bill but said it needs to include Remain in Mexico. Asked if she'd shut down the border, she said prove it and get it done.

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😡 Haley rules out being Trump's running mate

When asked, Haley definitively ruled out being Trump's or anyone's running mate. She is focused on winning the nomination herself. She believes she can defeat Biden in a general election by double digits unlike Trump.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Nikki Haley

Nikki Haley, a significant figure in the script, is portrayed as a politician and former Ambassador who is responding to political pressures and criticisms in the context of a race for a political nomination. The script shows her defending her position against the backdrop of a request by former President Donald Trump to withdraw from the race and the Republican National Committee's (RNC) call for unity around Trump. Haley's responses underscore her stance against the political elite and her advocacy for term limits, mental competency tests, and budgetary discipline, positioning herself as a fighter for the people against established political figures.

💡Donald Trump

Donald Trump is mentioned as exerting influence over the RNC and as a key figure in the political landscape that Nikki Haley is navigating. The script references Trump's call for Haley to exit the race, highlighting the tension between his support base and other Republican candidates. Trump's actions, including his alleged attempts to influence the RNC and his legal challenges, serve as a backdrop to Haley's campaign narrative, emphasizing the division within the Republican Party and Trump's controversial role in it.

💡Republican National Committee (RNC)

The RNC is mentioned as having made calls for the party to unify around Trump, which is portrayed as a premature and exclusionary move given that only two states had voted at the time. This reflects the internal conflicts within the Republican Party and the struggle between the party's establishment and its broader base. Haley criticizes the RNC's stance as not being an honest broker in the nomination process, highlighting the democratic principle that the American people should choose their nominee.

💡Political Elite

The term 'political elite' is used by Nikki Haley to describe the established political class that she argues has failed to address key issues such as wasteful spending, border security, and global safety. Haley's critique of the political elite underlines her campaign's message of change and her positioning as an outsider willing to challenge the status quo for the benefit of the general populace.

💡Delegates

Delegates are mentioned in the context of the nomination process, with specific numbers cited to illustrate the early stage of the race between Trump and Haley. The mention of delegates serves to quantify the candidates' performance and progress in the primary elections, highlighting the competitive nature of the process and the importance of each state's role in determining the nominee.

💡Term Limits

Haley advocates for term limits as part of her campaign, arguing that they are necessary to combat the stagnation and self-interest of the political elite. This proposal is presented as a measure to ensure political accountability and renewal, reflecting Haley's broader critique of the current political system and her desire for reform.

💡Mental Competency Tests

Mental competency tests are proposed by Haley as a criterion for political office, reflecting her concerns about the fitness and capability of elected officials. This proposal is part of her broader agenda to improve governance and accountability, addressing concerns about the suitability of candidates for public office, especially in light of age and mental acuity.

💡Border Security

Border security is a recurrent theme in Haley's responses, signifying her stance on national security and immigration. She criticizes the current administration's handling of the border and proposes more stringent measures, positioning this issue as central to her campaign and as a point of differentiation from her political opponents.

💡Legal Challenges

Legal challenges are mentioned in relation to Donald Trump, highlighting the various court cases and legal issues that have surrounded him. These challenges are presented as distractions that prevent Trump from focusing on policy issues, according to Haley. This aspect of the script underscores the contentious and litigious nature of Trump's political career, which Haley argues detracts from the ability to govern effectively.

💡Super Tuesday

Super Tuesday is referenced as a critical juncture in the primary election process, where a significant number of delegates are at stake across multiple states. Haley's comments about looking forward to Super Tuesday and her strategy for the race reflect the importance of this event in gaining momentum and securing a strong position in the nomination race.

Highlights

Haley says Trump can't bully his way to the nomination and the political elite has gotten nothing done

Haley claims Trump has become an insider more interested in satisfying the political class than the people

Haley says she needs to show growing momentum and be competitive in South Carolina to stay in the race

Haley says Trump's unhinged behavior and court cases show he's insecure, threatened and distracted

Haley trusts the jury's ruling finding Trump liable for sexual abuse but doesn't think it should disqualify him

Haley says Trump's attacks on her don't hurt her feelings but show he's becoming more unhinged

Haley calls on Republicans and Democrats to stay in DC until they secure the border

Haley says Israel has to eliminate Hamas and the US can't take its eyes off the target

Haley describes a swatting incident at her home as awful and dangerous

Haley says the division and chaos show the country has forgotten what normal and healing feel like

Haley is focused on defeating Trump, not thinking about endorsements or being anyone's VP

Haley beats Biden in polls and has a mandate to control spending and secure the border

Haley says she doesn't want to be anyone's vice president, which she says is pretty clear

Haley is determined to save the country and says they have to remember what being American first feels like

Haley is focused on South Carolina and Super Tuesday, not on what happens if she loses

Transcripts

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and joining me now is Ambassador Nikki

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Haley Ambassador Haley welcome back to

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Meet the

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Press thanks so much Christen for having

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me well we really appreciate your being

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here as you know former president Donald

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Trump has called on you to get out of

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this race the RNC says it's time for

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Republicans to unify around Mr Trump

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what is your response to this apparent

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pressure campaign against

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you look I mean he can't bully his way

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through the nomination I think that you

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know it's not surprising that he is

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surrounded by the political Elite but

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let's keep in mind the political Elite

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has gotten nothing done for us in

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stopping the wasteful spending has

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gotten nothing done to secure the Border

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has gotten nothing done to keep us more

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safe as we see Wars around the world and

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so look that's exactly what we don't

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want I mean the reason the political

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Elite are upset and the members of

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Congress are upset is because I've

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pushed for ter limits I've pushed for

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mental competency tests I've said if

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they don't get a budget out on time they

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shouldn't get paid so look I have fought

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this political class um my entire life

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and it's it's I'd much rather be

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fighting for the people than fighting

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for the elected officials in DC

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Ambassador do you think just going back

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to the RNC calling for the party to

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unify around Trump which happened by the

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way during the New Hampshire primary

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before the polls had even closed do you

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think the RNC has been an honest broker

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in this

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case I mean clearly not if you're going

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to go and and basically tell the

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American people that you're going to go

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and decide who the nominee is after only

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two states have voted I mean 48 states

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out there this is a democracy the

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American people want to have their say

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in who is going to be their nominee we

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need to give them that I mean you can't

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do that based on just two states and not

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only that it's 1215 delegates to reach

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the nomination Donald Trump has 32 I

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have 17 so let's let let this play out

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let's do what we need to I mean we saw

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South Carolinians we had 1500 people

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last night in Greenville County and I

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think that Americans want to be able to

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make this decision themselves I don't

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think this is the place of the RNC to do

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it I think that uh Trump overstepped

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when he pushed them to do it and I think

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that's why he's had to back down and

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that was the right thing to do was to

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back down and and just do do you have

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actual knowledge and awareness that he

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pushed the RNC to do that and then

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pulled

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back

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I mean we know exactly the people that

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pushed it are his people and I know that

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during the debates I mean he was pushing

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Ron McDaniel to stop the debates he was

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calling her every other day he's been

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pushing them um to pay for his lawsuits

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and all of these other things but at the

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end of the day this is not about the RNC

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this is about the American people this

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is not about a you know a political

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party deciding who they want to be the

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nominee you know when I ran for governor

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there were five candidates I was far

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from the nominee I was the one I you

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know I ran against a lieutenant governor

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an attorney general a congressman and a

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state senator they did the same thing to

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me then I won then I'm going to win now

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let's talk about your path forward as

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you know Trump has a double- digigit

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lead in the polls he secured the

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endorsement of a lot of the top

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officials in your state do you need to

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win South Carolina your home state in

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order to win the

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nomination well let's first talk about

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the people that he surrounded himself in

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South Carolina um yes he got the the

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endorsement of the governor but that's

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the same Governor that I defeated when I

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ran for governor yes he got the

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endorsement of the political class in

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South Carolina but that's the same group

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that I forced to have to show their

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votes on the record it's the same group

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that I forced to pass ethics reform

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where they had to disclose their income

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it's the same group where I vetoed half

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a billion dollars of pet projects that I

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didn't think taxpayer dollar should go

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to so there's no Sur surprised there

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that the political Elite are surrounding

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him there he has become Trump has become

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an Insider that's what it comes down to

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is he's more interested in satisfying

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the elected class than he is in

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satisfying the people when it comes to

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South Carolina look we wanted to be

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strong and I think you look we started

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with 2% in Iowa we ended up with 20% we

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got to New Hampshire we needed to do

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better than that and we did we got 43%

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of the vote now we're going into South

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Carolina we need to be stronger than

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what we did in New Hampshire and so

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that's certainly what we need to do but

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it's not just that we need to be

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stronger Kristen Trump needs to be

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stronger he's not getting the

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independent vote he's not getting a

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segment of the Republicans and so he's

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got some work to do as well let me just

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make sure we get an answer though

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Ambassador Hy because this is your home

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state you were governor in the state of

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South Carolina do you need to win your

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home state in order to stay in this race

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is it do or

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die I think I need to do better than I

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did in New Hampshire so this is a

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building situation it's not about State

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you you don't do you need to actually I

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hear you saying you need to do better

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but do don't you need to win your home

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state to show that you can win a State

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win your home state and really put some

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delegates on the map for

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yourself well we've got 17 delegates

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he's got 32 I'd say that's pretty good

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to start what I do think I need to do is

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I need to show that I'm building

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momentum I need to show that I'm

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stronger in South Carolina than New

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Hampshire does that have to be a win I

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don't think that necessarily has to be a

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win but it certainly has to be better

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than what I did in New Hampshire and it

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certainly has to be close and so that's

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what we're focusing on if we win great

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if not we've got to show that we're

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continuing to narrow that margin along

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the way to give people in super Tuesday

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States a reason to know that they can

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continue to see and and have us fight on

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so I hear you saying you are in this

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regardless of the results in South

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Carolina through super Tuesday it sounds

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like here's how the Wall Street Journal

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editorial board is thinking about your

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campaign they write if she can remain

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competitive there's an argument for Miss

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Haley to stay in the race through the

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July convention Mr Trump faces a

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treacherous legal Road and one of the

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cases against him could go to trial if

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he's convicted of a felony 42% of Voters

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in New Hampshire and nearly a third of

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Iowa's GOP caucus goers said Mr Trump

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would be unfit for the presidency are

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you staying in this race in case Donald

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Trump is convicted of a crime

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ambassador

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I've never stayed in this race because

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of court cases um you know really I

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don't know what all the court cases are

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I haven't paid attention to what he's

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won what he's lost what he's fighting

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for any of that what I know is you know

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the first one came down and he spent a

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lot of time ranning about how he lost

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that court case but the reality is every

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time he's talking about defending

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himself in court he's not talking about

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getting our economy back on track he's

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not talking about closing the Border

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he's not talking about how we're going

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to get our kids reading again and

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getting getting us focused again he's

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not talking about Law and Order that's

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the problem is he's not talking about

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what the American people want Kristen

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look at what happened just in the 48

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hours after the election here he went on

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a he was totally unhinged went on a

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rampage election night talking about

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revenge then the next day he goes and

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says anybody who supports me is not

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going to be allowed to be part of Maga

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well that means those people that voted

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for me in Iowa and New Hampshire and

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those people who' donated to me really

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you're going to go and say they're not

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in your Club you're supposed to be

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president representing everyone then he

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goes and pushes the Republican party to

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make him the nominee I mean look he's

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insecure he's threatened he sees what's

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happening and he knows these court cases

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are going to take him further and

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further away from the campaign Trail and

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that's what he's worried about and you

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bring up the court cases I want to get

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to them but just yes or no are you in

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this race through the convention Beyond

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super Tuesday yes or

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no as long as I keep growing per state I

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am in this race I have every intention

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of going to Super Tuesday through

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through super Tuesday we're going to

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keep on going and see where this gets us

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that's what we know we're going to do

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right now I take it one state at a time

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I don't think too far ahead let's talk

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about I'm not going anywhere all right

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let's talk about the court cases on

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Friday a jury ordered Donald Trump to

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pay writer Eugene Carroll $83 million in

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Damages for defamation as you know this

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was a year after a different jury found

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him liable for sexual abuse you have

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said and you repeat here uh maybe it's

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fair maybe it's not but let me just ask

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you on the substance of the jury's

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ruling should that be disqualifying to

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be

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president I think the American people

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decide who should be disqualifying I've

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always thought it's the same thing with

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the RNC picking the nominee we don't

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need to take over anything that the

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American people have the right to do I

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think that I've always said I think

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Donald Trump has the right to be on the

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ballot I've always said I trust the

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American people they know how to make

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good decisions and so I think that

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they're going to see this for what it is

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they see that he's completely distracted

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they see that he's going on these rants

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about how he's the victim and I think

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that's exactly what that we don't need a

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strong leader to be and so you know

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these court cases are going to keep

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happening one by one we're going to keep

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seeing him in a courtroom and we're

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going to see him come out and do a press

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conference that's not what you want a

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president to be but more than that

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that's not what we want Russia to see

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that's not what we want China to see and

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that's not what we want Iran to see and

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what is unique about this case is that

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the jury has now ruled they have found

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him liable of sexual abuse do you not

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trust the jury and their findings

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Ambassador I absolutely trust the jury

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and I think that they made their

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decision based on the evidence I just

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don't think that should take him off the

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ballot I think the American people will

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take him off the ballot I think that's

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the best way to go forward is not let

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him play the victim let him play the

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loser that's what we want him to do at

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the end of the day just to be clear do

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you think it's disqualifying

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Ambassador I don't think he should be

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taken off the ballot I think the

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American people will decide if he's

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disqualifying or not we don't do that

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Kristen in America anybody that wants to

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run can run and I think that's really

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important we have seen a lot of people

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trying to infringe on our freedoms and

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our democracy we can never let that

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happen I don't want a political party

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deciding who's right and wrong I don't

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want you know any judges to decide who

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deserves to be on the ballot and who

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doesn't I want the American people to

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decide it that's what the heartbeat of

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America is our democracy let's let the

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American people decide who they want to

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lead this country Ambassador just one

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more time before we move on and we are

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going to move on to another topic but

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you have said his Advanced age makes him

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unfit you have just now called him

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unhinged why give him a pass on this

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issue where a jury has found him liable

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for sexual

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abuse I'm not giving him a pass on

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anything I mean I have said you know he

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went on for for three or four minutes

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talking about how I didn't secure the

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capital on January 6 I mean clearly he

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was confused um thinking that I was

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Nancy Pelosi but look that's exactly why

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we don't need two people in their 80s

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running for president we need someone

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who can serve a strong eight years to

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get our country back on track you can't

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do that with him and I think it's not

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being disrespectful it's the fact that

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when you're 80 you are declining that's

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just a fact and so look there are

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multiple things that I think are the

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reason should not be president that's

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the whole reason I'm running I do think

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that he is in Decline and I think that

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he needs to know to step away I do think

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that he surrounds himself in chaos and

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we can't be a country in disarray and

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have a world on fire and be in chaos I

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do think that these court cases are

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distracting not just to the American

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people but to him himself which is

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keeping him from talking about what

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really matters that's exactly why I

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don't think he should be president

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Ambassador you bring up his attacks I

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want to ask you about his attacks

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against you he has mocked your birth

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name he has suggested you're not

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eligible to be president because your

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parents weren't born here of course you

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are eligible you were born here but I'm

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curious just big picture what do you

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make of him bringing back this bir or

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Playbook against you do you think it

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will work in South Carolina and win over

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voters

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there I mean honestly Kristen I laugh

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every time I see one of his tweets every

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time I see him um throw a temper tantrum

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because I know Donald Trump very well

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when he feels insecure he starts to rail

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he starts to rant he starts to flail his

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arms and he starts to get upset when he

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gets feels threatened he starts to throw

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all kinds of things out there I would

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always tell him he was his Own Worst

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Enemy he's proving that right now he

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proved it in the fact that he continues

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to be chaotic those things don't hurt my

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feelings this is not personal for me

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what is personal for me is getting

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America back on track would you go so

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far as to call those attacks racist IST

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Ambassador I think that's for everybody

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else to decide I think that they um you

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know the fact that he continues to go

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down these Paths of saying things you

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know is this who we want as a president

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is this who we want our kids to see I

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don't think so and look he's just going

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to become more unhinged Kristen hold on

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it's going to get worse because that's

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what he does when he feels like he's not

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in control I do want to ask you about

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this border deal there have been talks

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for weeks now a group of senators

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working on this deal they seem to be

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close to the finish line but now Donald

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Trump is trying to torpedo any deal he

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wrote this weekend quote a bad border

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deal is far worse than no border deal

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what is your message right now to

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Republicans on Capitol Hill should they

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get this deal

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done my message to Republicans is do not

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leave DC until you finish the job it we

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have waited for so long for Congress to

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do something about the Border first Joe

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Biden should be securing the Border this

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is a national security threat the idea

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that he is actually suing Governor

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Abbott for trying to protect the people

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of Texas is wrong America's acting like

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it's September 10th and we better

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remember what September 12th felt like

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because it only takes one person to

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cause a 911 moment the second thing is

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Republicans and Democrats need to get

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into a room they don't need to leave

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until they figure this out because the

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American people are not safe at this

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point and Donald Trump the last thing he

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needs to do is tell them to to wait to

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pass a border deal until the election we

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can't wait one more day but they do need

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to get this right I don't know exactly

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the details in the bill but one of the

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things I saw is that they didn't have

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the remain in Mexico policy you have to

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have the remain in Mexico policy because

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people need don't even need to step foot

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on us soil that's the first place we

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need to start Ambassador Hy the Biden

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Administration has said they're taking

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action against Governor Abbott because

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they see some of his policies as

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inhumane but let me ask you big picture

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we heard president President Biden say

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he's prepared to shut down the Border if

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this deal passes if you were president

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if you were in the white house right now

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and I know that you are saying

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Republicans should get a deal but you're

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also saying you don't see everything in

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it you want would you sign this bill

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would you sign this into

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law well I haven't seen the details of

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the bill so I can't comment on whether I

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would sign it what I can tell you is

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I've seen things that are not in it that

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should be in it and let's let's keep in

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mind I appreciate that that President

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Biden saying he wants to be um Humane in

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this process but look I dealt with the

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Border when I was in the United Nations

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while President Trump was dealing with

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it in DC I was on the ground in Honduras

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and Guatemala what those people go

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through in that trk to America is

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horrific and it's dangerous and it's

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unsafe we need to make sure they never

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even think there's an opening for them

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they shouldn't even make that Trek in

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the first place and what's happened is

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they see all their family members coming

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over they see all their friends coming

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over he gave President Biden gave half a

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million Venezuelans temporary protective

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status which is social security numbers

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and driver's license is the first thing

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they do I saw this at the UN they pick

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up the phone and call their relatives

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and say come on over we need to stop

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what's happening we need to get this

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done when you hear President Biden say

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he's prepared to shut down the

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Border what say you about that you you

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agree with that

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assessment I say to President Biden

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prove it get into a room and get this

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done and prove Pro it because the

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American people are waiting I put this

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on Republicans and Democrats I'm not

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picking favorites in this I'm telling

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you they have all not done a good job

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from the very beginning and it is time

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that we get this uh country safe again

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let's talk about what's happening in the

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Middle East there are reports the US is

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getting closer to negotiating a deal

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that would effectively mean Israel would

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suspend its military operations in Gaza

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for about 2 months in exchange for

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release of the remaining hostages the

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CIA director is in Paris negotiating

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these talks right now if you were

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president if you were in the white house

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right now is this the type of deal you

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would get behind would you be supporting

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this and urging Israel to accept this

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compromise we want to do everything we

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can to get the hostages home but I also

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know what this means this means that

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during those two months Hamas is going

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to refuel they're going to re um build

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their ammunition they're going to replan

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they're going to plan all of the things

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that they're going to do they have said

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they're going to do another attack and

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Israel has to keep themselves safe so

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this is a fine line that we need to see

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them walk first of all we need to make

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sure Israel has whatever they need when

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they need it we need to make sure that

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we eliminate Hamas and never take our

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eye off the Target because going this

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again and we need to get the hostages

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home but do you think it's a bad deal to

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pause the fight for two

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months I think if Israel is willing to

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pause then we should if Israel is not

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willing to pause then we shouldn't they

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are driving this train when they saw so

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many people die on October 7th and they

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hear Hamas saying they're going to do

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this again Kristen when I was at the

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United Nations I gave a speech five

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years ago and it show it told the world

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that there were Maps these Maps were

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held by Hamas and it showed that if they

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could break through the barrier this is

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how they were going to kill as many

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Jewish people as fast as they could that

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happened I know there would be no Hamas

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without Iran I know that they want to

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eliminate Israel we've got to find a way

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to protect Israelis and get those

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hostages home this may work we have to

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see but what we also have to do is not

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take our eyes off of Hamas because

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they're going to use this time to kill

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more people and do more things to build

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up their their military Ambassador I

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want to ask you about something that

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happened at your home in South Carolina

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last month we're just learning about it

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right now authorities responded to a

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swatting call just for our audience

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that's when a fake emergency call is

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called in creating the possibility of a

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really dangerous situation you were not

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home at the time but but what was your

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reaction what are the implications of

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this happening

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Ambassador well Kristen um I was not

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home but but Michael and I take care of

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my parents um they are 87 and 90 and we

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take care of them and they were at home

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and with their caregiver and so I will

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tell you that the last thing you want is

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to see multiple law forcement officials

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with guns drawn pointing at my parents

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and and thinking that something happened

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it is a um it is an awful situation it

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put the law enforcement officers in

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danger it put um my family in danger and

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you know it it was not a safe situation

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and that goes to show the the chaos

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that's surrounding our country right now

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and the fact that these things are

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happening and so look I'm not the only

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one that's happened to um it wasn't the

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first time I think we've had it happen

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twice tce but I will tell you this that

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I think that what's really important is

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we have lived in a country of chaos for

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quite a while now it is time that we

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remember what normal felt like it is

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time that we remember what healing feels

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like it is time that we remember what

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it's like not to have division not to

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have hate we are Americans and we need

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to remember how blessed we are just very

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quickly and we have two more topics I

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want to get to How concerned are you

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about political violence right now over

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all given what

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happened I mean I think look I feel it

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we've been um to town halls 150

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something town halls there are things

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that have happened I've had threats made

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um it's what happens when you run for

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president I can handle that that is not

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the problem what I don't want is for my

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kids to live like this that's the reason

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I'm doing this is to have this Division

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and not my husband is deployed right now

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sacrificing for America with his

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military brothers and sisters they are

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doing that because they love this

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country because they still believe in

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this amazing experiment that is America

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we have to go back to remember what it's

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like to be Americans first that's the

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biggest thing that's heartbreaking for

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me is we're better than this our country

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is better than this and the rest of the

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world is looking at us wondering what

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happened we've got to write this ship

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we've got to get it back and I know we

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can do it America has an amazing ability

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to self correct sometimes we have to hit

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rock bottom to know where up is we're

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there we need to start looking up well

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Ambassador Haley let me just ask you

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looking forward if you do fall short if

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you don't get the nomination you have

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said before that being on a ticket with

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Donald Trump is quote off the table let

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me just ask you to put a fine point on

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it have you completely ruled out being

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Donald Trump's running

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mate I have said I don't want to be

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anyone's vice president I don't know how

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more clear I can be anyone's vice

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president you ruled it out Ambassador

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I'm running for president I am I don't I

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mean I think that's what I'm saying if I

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say I don't want to be anyone's vice

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president I think that's pretty clear

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what I am telling you is I am going to

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run and I am running to win and I think

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the American people deserve better and I

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think this is a time where the American

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people need a lot of Courage we have

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seen every general election poll Trump

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does not beat Biden in a general

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election we have seen that I defeat

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Biden by double digits when you look at

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that that's a mandate Kristen to go get

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the wasteful spending out of control to

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secure our border with no more excuses

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to get our kids reading again that's

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what we need to be doing would you rule

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out endorsing him as a nominee you have

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said before that you would support him

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given your stepped up language you're

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calling him unhinged would you rule out

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indorsing him as a

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nominee I'm not even thinking about

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endorsements Kristen I know that y'all

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want to talk about what happens if I'm

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focused on defeating Donald Trump period

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that's it I don't think past that that

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I'm not thinking past South Carolina or

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super Tuesday what I want to do is go

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and save this country we have a country

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to save I'm determined to do it y'all

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can think forward I'm focused on the

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sweet people of South Carolina and

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making sure that we get them their

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voices heard and we're going to work

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this state as hard and as fast as we

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ever have all right Ambassador Nikki

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Haley thank you so much good luck out on

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the campaign Trail stay safe we really

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