Lies of History About Ancient Indians - Aryan Migration Theory DNA Analysis - FutureIQ

The FutureIQ Podcast Season 1 : Psychology, Books, Science & Future
13 Jul 202425:54

Summary

TLDRThis script delves into the origins of Indians, debunking the Aryan Invasion Theory and exploring the genetic evidence that supports a more complex history. It discusses the three main waves of ancestral DNA: ancient African hunter-gatherers, Middle Eastern pre-farmers, and step herders from Central Asia. The script highlights how these groups gradually intermixed, contributing to the rich tapestry of Indian civilization, and emphasizes the lack of evidence for a violent invasion, suggesting instead a series of migrations and cultural integrations.

Takeaways

  • 📚 The script discusses the controversial origins of Indians, addressing whether they are descendants of Aryans from Europe, Dravidians native to India, or the Indus Valley Civilization.
  • 🔍 It mentions the Aryan Invasion Theory, which was once popular but is now largely discredited due to lack of evidence supporting an invasion.
  • 🌏 The script explains the Out of India Theory, which suggests that the origins of various languages and cultures are from India, but this too is not supported by academic evidence.
  • 🧬 Recent genetic research, including a 2019 paper analyzing DNA from 800 individuals across the region, indicates that modern Indian DNA is a mix from three main sources: ancient hunter-gatherers, Middle Eastern pre-farmers, and step herders from Central Asia.
  • 🌾 The Middle Eastern pre-farmers, who migrated to the Indus Valley, struggled initially with agriculture due to differences in rainfall patterns, but eventually developed advanced farming techniques, contributing to the rise of the Indus Valley Civilization.
  • 🏙️ The decline of the Indus Valley Civilization around 1900 BC is believed to be due to the drying up of rivers, leading to the migration of its people into other parts of India.
  • 🌈 The script highlights a genetic gradient in India, with higher percentages of Middle Eastern pre-farmer DNA in the north and more ancient hunter-gatherer DNA in the south.
  • 🧔 The arrival of the step herders, ancestors of Sanskrit speakers, in India around 1800 BC is characterized by male DNA predominance, suggesting they intermixed with local populations, possibly outcompeting local men.
  • 🔄 The script emphasizes that there was significant intermixing across castes in India until around 100 AD, after which there was a marked decrease, indicating a shift towards endogamy within castes.
  • 🔍 The evidence points to a gradual cultural and genetic integration rather than a sudden invasion, with no large-scale massacres, destruction, or sudden changes in material culture or language.
  • 🌟 The script concludes that all Indians are a mix of ancient hunter-gatherers, Middle Eastern farmers, and step herders, and that the history of India is a tapestry of these various influences.

Q & A

  • What is the origin of the term 'Aryan' and why is it controversial?

    -The term 'Aryan' originated from the idea that a group of people from the Caucasus Mountains spoke a common language called Proto-Indo-European. It's controversial because it was used by racist Europeans to imply that 'white' Arians were a superior race that spread their language and culture around the world, which is not supported by modern scientific evidence.

  • What does the script suggest about the Aryan Invasion Theory?

    -The script suggests that the Aryan Invasion Theory is not taken seriously in academia anymore due to lack of evidence supporting the idea that Arians invaded and subjugated local populations in India.

  • How did Hindu nationalists respond to the Aryan Invasion Theory?

    -Hindu nationalists rejected the Aryan Invasion Theory, proposing an 'Out of India' model where they claim that Hindus have always been in India, creating Sanskrit and the Vedas, and then spreading their culture and language to the rest of the world. However, this view is not supported by academic evidence.

  • What is the significance of the genetic evidence in understanding Indian ancestry?

    -Genetic evidence, including DNA sequencing from human remains, provides a clearer picture of population movements and interactions over time. It shows a flow of genetic markers towards India, supporting the idea of migrations rather than invasions.

  • What are the three main sources of modern Indian DNA according to the 2019 paper mentioned in the script?

    -The three main sources of modern Indian DNA are ancient hunter-gatherers from Africa who arrived around 65,000 years ago, Middle Eastern pre-farmers who arrived between 6,000 to 4,000 BC, and steppe herders from the step grasslands of Ukraine and Kazakhstan who arrived around 1800 BC.

  • How did the Indus Valley Civilization decline and what does this have to do with population movements in India?

    -The Indus Valley Civilization declined around 1900 BC due to possible geological changes, such as rivers drying up, which led to the civilization's collapse and subsequent migration of its people into other parts of India, mixing with the local populations.

  • What is the relationship between the DNA of steppe herders and the modern Indian population?

    -The DNA of steppe herders is present in the modern Indian population, but primarily as male DNA, suggesting that they intermixed with local women. However, their contribution to the overall genetic makeup of Indians is relatively small, with a gradient from more in the north to less in the south.

  • How does the script explain the formation of modern Indian languages?

    -Modern Indian languages are a mix of the languages brought by the steppe herders, which were ancestors of Sanskrit, and the languages of the local populations, including the Indus Valley Civilization and possibly a Proto-Dravidian language of the ancient hunter-gatherers.

  • What evidence is there to suggest that the movements of people into India were migrations rather than invasions?

    -The evidence includes a lack of large-scale massacres or destruction, gradual changes in material culture and languages, and the relatively small percentage of steppe herder DNA in the modern Indian population, all pointing towards a gradual integration rather than a sudden takeover.

  • How does the script relate the genetic evidence to the caste system in India?

    -The script notes that there is a correlation between caste and genetic makeup, with certain castes, such as Brahmins, having a higher percentage of steppe herder DNA. It also mentions that there was significant intermixing across castes until around 100 AD, after which there was a period of endogamy that lasted for about 1900 years.

  • What is the conclusion of the script regarding the ancestry and history of Indians?

    -The script concludes that Indians are a mix of ancient hunter-gatherers, Middle Eastern farmers, and steppe herders, and that the history of India is characterized by gradual migrations and cultural integration rather than invasions.

Outlines

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🧬 Origins of Indians: Dispelling the Arian Invasion Theory

The paragraph delves into the controversial questions of Indian ancestry, challenging the Arian Invasion Theory which suggests that Indians are descended from Arians who came from Europe. It discusses the linguistic similarities between North Indian languages and European languages, which led to the hypothesis of a Proto-Indo-European language. The paragraph also touches upon the racial implications of the theory, which were used to support the idea of a superior Caucasian race, and notes that this theory is no longer taken seriously in academia due to lack of evidence.

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🌏 Genetic Evidence and the Three Waves of Indian Ancestry

This paragraph presents scientific evidence from DNA sequencing that has provided a clearer understanding of Indian ancestry. It describes three major waves of migration contributing to the genetic makeup of modern Indians: ancient hunter-gatherers from Africa around 65,000 years ago, Middle Eastern pre-farmers between 6,000 to 4,000 BC, and steppe herders from the step grasslands around 1800 BC. The paragraph highlights a 2019 paper that analyzed DNA from 800 individuals across 19 locations, supporting the theory of migration rather than invasion.

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🌱 The Development of Agriculture and the Indus Valley Civilization

The paragraph discusses the early development of agriculture in the Fertile Crescent region of Iran and the subsequent migration of some of these pre-farmers to the Indus Valley, where they intermingled with the local hunter-gatherers. It explains the challenges faced by these early farmers due to the different climate and monsoon patterns, and how they gradually adapted, leading to the rise of the Indus Valley Civilization. The decline of this civilization around 1900 BC due to geological changes and drying up of rivers is also mentioned.

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📉 The Gradual Decline of the Indus Valley Civilization and Cultural Diffusion

This paragraph continues the narrative of the Indus Valley Civilization's decline and the migration of its people into other parts of India. It describes the cultural and genetic exchange that occurred as these migrants adapted to new regions, leading to a population explosion and the spread of agriculture and civilization. The paragraph also establishes a gradient of genetic diversity across India, with more Indus Valley DNA in the north and more ancient hunter-gatherer DNA in the south.

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🛡️ The Arrival of Steppe Herders and the Myth of Arian Superiority

The paragraph addresses the arrival of steppe herders, traditionally referred to as Arians, who migrated to India around 1600 BC. It emphasizes that these people intermixed with the local population rather than dominating through invasion. The DNA evidence indicates that while the male DNA of the steppe herders is present in modern Indians, the female DNA is predominantly from the ancestral hunter-gatherers, suggesting a complex pattern of cultural and genetic assimilation.

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🔍 DNA Evidence and the Complexity of Indian Ancestry

This paragraph explores the complexities of Indian ancestry, highlighting the variations in DNA percentages among different castes and regions. It discusses the endogamous practices that began around 100 AD, which reduced inter-caste mixing and stabilized the genetic makeup of each caste. The paragraph also refutes the idea of an invasion, pointing out the gradual changes in culture, language, and DNA that occurred over centuries, rather than abrupt shifts that would be expected from a conquest.

🌐 Conclusion: A Mosaic of Ancestry and the Rejection of the 'Out of India' Theory

The final paragraph concludes the discussion by summarizing that Indians are a blend of ancient hunter-gatherers, Middle Eastern farmers, and steppe herders. It emphasizes that the evidence points to a migration into India, not an invasion, and rejects the 'Out of India' theory. The paragraph also underscores the gradual cultural and linguistic integration that has shaped the history of ancient and modern India.

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Keywords

💡Proto-Indo-European

Proto-Indo-European refers to the hypothetical common ancestor language of the Indo-European language family, which includes languages like Sanskrit, Greek, Latin, and English. In the video, it is mentioned that many North Indian languages share similarities with European languages due to their common origin from Proto-Indo-European, which is central to understanding the linguistic connections discussed in the script.

💡Aryan Invasion Theory

The Aryan Invasion Theory suggests that a group of people called Aryans, speaking the Proto-Indo-European language, migrated from the Caucasus Mountains and invaded the Indian subcontinent, displacing the local population. The video critiques this theory as outdated and unsupported by contemporary evidence, emphasizing that the script's narrative is about debunking this concept.

💡Caucasus Mountains

The Caucasus Mountains are a region between Europe and Asia, historically significant in the Aryan Invasion Theory as the proposed homeland of the Aryans. The script uses this geographical reference to discuss the origin of the Aryans and the subsequent critique of the theory that they spread from this region.

💡Indus Valley Civilization

The Indus Valley Civilization, also known as the Harappan Civilization, was an ancient civilization that flourished in the northwestern region of South Asia. The video mentions this civilization to highlight the advanced society that existed in India before the purported arrival of the Aryans, challenging the notion of Aryan superiority.

💡DNA Sequencing

DNA sequencing is the process of determining the precise order of nucleotides within a DNA molecule. In the context of the video, DNA sequencing is used to analyze ancient human remains and understand population movements and genetic relationships, providing evidence against the Aryan Invasion Theory.

💡Mitochondrial DNA

Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) is the DNA located in mitochondria, the cellular organelles responsible for energy production. The script explains that mtDNA is inherited solely from the mother and is used to trace maternal lineage. This concept is crucial in understanding the genetic evidence that indicates male Steppe herders intermixed with local Indian populations.

💡Steppe Herders

Steppe herders refers to the people from the steppe grasslands of Central Asia and Eastern Europe who migrated to the Indian subcontinent around 1800 BC. The video uses this term instead of 'Aryans' to describe the group that brought an ancestor of the Sanskrit language and the Vedic religion, emphasizing that their arrival was a migration, not an invasion.

💡Ancestral North Indian (ANI)

Ancestral North Indian (ANI) is a genetic term used in the script to describe the genetic makeup of individuals in North India, which is a mix of Middle Eastern pre-farmer DNA and ancient hunter-gatherer DNA. This concept is key to understanding the genetic diversity and history of the Indian population.

💡Ancestral South Indian (ASI)

Ancestral South Indian (ASI) is used to describe the genetic makeup predominant in South India, characterized by a higher percentage of ancient hunter-gatherer DNA compared to the Middle Eastern pre-farmer DNA. The script uses this term to illustrate the genetic gradient from North to South India.

💡Endogamy

Endogamy refers to the practice of marrying within a particular group, caste, or social class. The video mentions that after 100 AD, there was a significant reduction in inter-caste mixing in India, leading to a stabilization of genetic traits within castes, which is an important aspect of understanding the genetic continuity in Indian populations.

💡Gradual Change

The concept of gradual change is used in the script to describe the slow and steady transformation of cultures, languages, and genetic makeup in India over centuries. This is contrasted with the sudden and violent changes that would be expected in the event of an invasion, reinforcing the argument that the Steppe herders' arrival was a migration.

Highlights

Recent scientific evidence has allowed for a more certain answer to the controversial questions of Indian ancestry.

The Aryan Invasion Theory, which suggests a Caucasian race spread superior language and culture, is now largely dismissed in academia due to lack of evidence.

Hindu nationalists propose an 'Out of India' theory, claiming that Indian culture and language spread globally, but this is unsupported by academic evidence.

Archaeological and genetic evidence point towards a movement into India, rather than out, with cultural and agricultural practices spreading over time.

A 2019 paper with over 100 co-authors analyzed DNA from 800 individuals across 19 locations, providing a comprehensive genetic timeline for the Indian subcontinent.

Modern Indian DNA is a mix of three ancient populations: African hunter-gatherers, Middle Eastern pre-farmers, and Steppe herders from Eastern Europe.

The decline of the Indus Valley Civilization around 1900 BC may be linked to the drying up of rivers, leading to migration and cultural mixing.

The Steppe herders, associated with an early form of Sanskrit and Vedic religion, migrated to India around 1800 BC and intermixed with local populations.

DNA evidence shows a predominance of male Steppe herder DNA in modern Indians, suggesting male migration and intermixing with local women.

Caste systems in India may have influenced genetic diversity, with different castes showing varying percentages of Steppe herder DNA.

Intermixing across castes was common until around 100 AD, after which endogamy became prevalent, preserving genetic signatures within castes.

The history of India is a tapestry of gradual migrations and cultural integrations, rather than a single invasion event.

The absence of evidence for large-scale massacres or sudden cultural shifts supports the theory of gradual migration over invasion.

The blending of languages in India over time reflects a process of cultural assimilation rather than a forced imposition of a single language.

The genetic and cultural history of India challenges long-held beliefs and provides a more nuanced understanding of its diverse heritage.

The research encourages a reevaluation of historical narratives and promotes a more inclusive and scientifically grounded view of Indian ancestry.

Transcripts

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what are Indians are we descended from

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Arians who came in from Europe or are we

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descended from dravidians who were

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always here in India or are we descended

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from the Indus Valley Civilization these

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questions have been very controversial

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for the last years but in recent times

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we finally have scientific evidence

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which allows us to answer these

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questions with a degree of certainty

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okay I remember reading in my school

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textbooks that the Arians came in via

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the Iber pass and that's about all I can

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remember so let's start from the

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beginning of that Arian Theory okay okay

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in the late 1700s there was a British

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linguist who came to India so he was

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amazed at how many words in North Indian

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languages like Sanskrit Bengali Hindi

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were similar to words in European

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languages like greek latin French and

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also Persian so he came up with the idea

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that all of these are descendants of a

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common language called the Proto

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indoeuropean yeah later in the mid 1800s

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Max Mueller came up with the theory that

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there was a group of people in the

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Caucasus Mountains who spoke this Proto

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indoeuropean language and they spread

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this all over some of them migrated to

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Europe giving rise to the europian

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languages some went to Persia giving

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rise to Persian and Iranian languages

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okay and some came to India giving rise

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to Sanskrit and modern Indian languages

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the Caucasus Mountains is where

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Caucasians are from the white man the

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white Caucasians right correct and

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racist Europeans loved this Theory okay

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the theory is that white men spread out

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and they were the superior race and they

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defeated and subjugated the Primitive

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local races and they ruled the world

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okay of course because why not The White

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Man's Burden as we all know not just

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that tell me why Caucasus Mountains uh

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no idea honestly because that's where

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Mount Ararat is Mount Ararat where

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Noah's Arc landed after 40 days okay so

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their theory is that the biblical people

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from Noah's Ark spread out from the

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Caucasus Mountains and these Caucasians

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took over the world and their language

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took over the world so they basically

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took every possible story that could

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have been created and mashed it into one

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single thing that fit into the biblical

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worldview yeah why not this Theory

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called the Aran Invasion theory is not

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taken seriously by anyone in Academia

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anymore because the evidence is just not

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there okay there is no evidence that

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Arians came and invaded there is no

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evidence that the local people were

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primitive and would give up easily right

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the Moen jaro and harapa civilizations

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were quite Advanced there is no evidence

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that these guys came and took over and

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like became rulers okay so if the Arian

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Invasion theory is not true then what is

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the theory that explains all of this

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before we go there let me talk about the

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reaction of Hindu nationalists to the

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Arian Invasion Theory okay they hated

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the idea so much that they went to the

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Other Extreme obviously according to

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them Hindus have always been here hm

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okay because this the land of Ganga is

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our puni and our

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pomi okay so the idea that we came from

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outside just doesn't jel with their

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worldview okay so their theory is that

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we are the Arians in India we created

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Sanskrit the perfect language we created

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vdas the perfect books and then we took

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it to the rest of the world 7,000 years

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ago and that gave rise to Persian and

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the avestan religion and in Europe that

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gave rise to Greek and Latin and all the

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modern European languages and I'm

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guessing this is not true either this is

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in fact so untrue that no academics take

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this seriously at all there is zero

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evidence for this there is no

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archaeological evidence showing movement

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from here outside there is no genetic

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evidence showing movement of genes

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outside of India it's less than 2% and

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there is no linguistic evidence all the

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evidence actually points towards

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movement into India okay archaeological

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evidence as in so for example you see

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certain kinds of pottery H say 5,000

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years ago in India then 4,000 years ago

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it shows up in Afghanistan okay then

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3,000 years ago it shows up in Persia

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then 2,000 years ago it shows up in

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Ukraine then 1,000 years ago shows up in

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Europe right so that would mean that

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Pottery went from India to Afghanistan

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to uh Persia to Ukraine right and it's

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not just Pottery right it's specific

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Styles it is a way of making pots it's a

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way of making tools it's a system of

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using iron whatever right all those

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things okay so that evidence points the

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other WEA exactly okay and the genetic

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evidence you said correct so this is the

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big thing in the last 15 20 years okay

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because now with DNA sequencing what we

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can do is that we can dig up human

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remains that we find at archaeological

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websites we can try to pick out DNA from

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that and sequence them in the lab okay

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okay for each such person we can pick

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out

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600,000 genetic markers okay okay not

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just that but for each one of them we

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can use carbon dating so we know the

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date also okay okay okay now imagine

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that there are two lines of DNA one in

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say Iran and it is showing genetic

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markers B CDE bcde bcde and like every

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few hundred years and it is going down

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like this okay on this side in India you

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are for similar dates you are seeing

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pqrs in the Next Generation there is

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pqrs 100 years later there is pqrs

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suddenly now you start seeing bcrs BCS

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okay oh you can clearly see that what

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has happened is that someone from Persia

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came to India around this time and then

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they started mixing here H if it were P

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qde then we would say that the mixing

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happened the other way around and I'm

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not talking about just four or five

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things like that right we are talking

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about 600,000 so when there is evidence

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there is lots of evidence like this got

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it okay got it now evidence like this

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there are 100 of papers earlier they

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used to be the archaeological evidence

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okay but now at least dozens of papers

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with genetic evidence showing flow

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towards India related to India have been

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published okay we will focus primarily

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on one paper which is like an awesome

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paper Okay 2019 paper it has 100 plus

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co-authors from 18 countries including

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from Indian colleges okay

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this paper analyzed DNA from 800

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different persons from 19 different

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locations all over this region dates

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from 12,000 BC all the way to 1 BC okay

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okay and

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269 distinct dates by carbon dating so

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269 different points in time over a

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period of 12,000 years remember that

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everything we do here is backed by SCI

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scientific research and scientific uh

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data so even when we are giving examples

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those examples are actually from

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existing papers and existing research so

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in this particular case this paper has

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uh data from a period of 12,000 years

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there are 269 different points in those

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12,000 years that are being considered

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but those are enough to establish a

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clear timeline not just that but the

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findings of this paper agree with all

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the other re evence the archaeological

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evidence the linguistic evidence the

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anthropological evidence and evidence

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from stories of all the different

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cultures okay so this looks like a

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fairly solid bit of research here

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absolutely what does this paper say h it

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says that modern Indian DNA has come

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from three sources of DNA okay the first

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is ancient hunter gatherers who came out

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of Africa to India around 65,000 years

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ago the second wave is of Middle Eastern

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pre farmers who came around 6,000 to

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4,000 BC the third wave was step herders

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these are from the step grasslands

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Ukraine kazakistan they came in around

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1800 BC okay okay so now let's look at

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these three waves in detail and what

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they did to India all right all right so

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first 65,000 years ago humans from

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Africa they crossed the Red Sea they

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crossed Arabia they crossed Persia

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Afghanistan and then came into India

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settled all these places correct they

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continued they went to the andamans they

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went to Indonesia they went to Australia

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and some of that still exist you can see

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that DNA in some Andaman tribes some of

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the Aboriginal tribes in Australia and

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so on okay okay so now India is sparsely

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populated by these Hunter gather mirers

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okay okay this situation continues for

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like 60,000 years okay all right now

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around 9,000 8,000 7,000 BC uhuh in the

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region which is now Iran okay the

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Fertile Crescent huh some of the people

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started to kind of figure out a little

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bit of cultivation of crops okay they

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were not full- flesh Farmers they just

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understood some seeds wheat and barley

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and wherever they went they would try to

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grow it sometimes with success sometimes

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with failure fair enough these people

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some of them started coming towards

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India okay and when they reached the

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Indus Valley they settled there okay

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okay now the thing is that for a pre

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farming Society like this life isn't

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easy when you move the reason is that

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they didn't understand farming

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technology as such they didn't

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understand different kinds of seeds Okay

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okay okay what happened was that where

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they came from the Fertile Crescent

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there rain happened in winter so they

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had wheat and barley seeds which would

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grow very well if you had winter rain

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but they moved to indust Valley where

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there is rain and Monsoon summer correct

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so their seeds didn't grow as well and

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they were struggling a little bit makes

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sense so what ended up happening is that

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they ended up with decent relations with

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the hunter gatherers and there was trade

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correct when their crops worked well

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they would give it to the hunter

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gatherers when not they would take stuff

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from hunter gatherers and things

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happened correct okay after a while they

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slowly figured out variants of those

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seeds which worked well in this Monsoon

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climate agriculture developed

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agriculture developed City started

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developing they had surplus of food they

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could use that for all kinds of things

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and over time they developed irri ation

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that's how we got the Indus Valley

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Civilization Mo Hara everything else oh

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are these the Arians that we spoke about

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at the beginning no okay but let's first

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understand the current situation okay

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okay inside India there are the ancient

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hunter gatherers right in the Northwest

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Indus Valley huh there is this new thing

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called the Indus Valley Civilization

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which consists of a mixture of

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Middle Eastern pre- farmer DNA and

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ancient hunter gatherer DNA remember

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there was trading and intermixing for

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many centuries here correct that's the

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current situation yeah okay Arians

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haven't arrived yet but before the

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Arians arrive huh something important

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happens okay what this indust Valley

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Civilization reached its peak around

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2500 BC okay it flourished for the next

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600 years and then suddenly starting

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around 1900 it began to decline why we

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don't know for sure okay we know that it

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wasn't a war it wasn't some sudden

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natural disaster okay we believe it was

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because Rivers dried up okay okay

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because of various geological action huh

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there was the gagar hakra river system

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here okay which just changed course and

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this whole civilization which depended

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on the rivers and irrigation of the

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rivers couldn't survive anymore and they

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started dying out uh-huh some of them of

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course started migrating into India okay

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is this or could this be the F sarasti

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river that disappeared during that time

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we are not sure but it could be okay

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because around that time there was a

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river system and there is evidence that

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it disappeared there are some mismatches

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there but it could be okay it could be

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sarasti the mystery continues yeah but

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now what's happening is that these Indus

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Valley people are moving into India okay

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okay remember that whenever they move to

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a new location they struggle initially

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because their crops and their systems

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are not adapted for that correct and

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because of that again they are trading

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and intermixing with the locals yeah at

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that time again the locals now are still

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the ancient hunter gatherers who are

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mixing with the Indus Valley people now

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okay the IND Indus Valley people being a

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mix of the Middle Eastern farmers and

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the ancient hunter gatherers from

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earlier correct after a while what

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begins to happen is that their

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agriculture technology starts working

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okay and they slowly become more and

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more prosperous correct this results in

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two things one is that the population

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explodes

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okay we have done an episode on why

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India is the most populous country it is

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related exactly to this yeah second

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thing is that some of them start

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migrating South okay okay and the same

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thing repeats whenever they migrate a

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little bit there's initial period of

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struggle there is some

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intermixing then they migrate further so

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a gradation gets set up in India from

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north to south gradation in terms of the

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DNA percentag is mixed so in the north

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it is much more Indus valy DNA and very

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little ancient hunter gatherers okay in

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the South there is more ancient hunter

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gatherer and less indust Valley correct

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corre if you look in terms of the

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original Middle Eastern pre farmer okay

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so in the north about 50 to 70% is that

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DNA okay and in the South about 30 to

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40% is that DNA okay okay this we are

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going to call Ani and Asi ancestral

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North Indian and ancestral South Indian

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okay so these are sort of the ancestors

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of North and South India this is the

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situation in India from around 1800 BC

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to 1,000 BC right okay so this is the

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period of the indust valley civilization

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declining correct okay around 1600 BC

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step herders from Central Asia Eastern

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Europe they started moving south okay

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near Tajikistan they split one part went

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to Iran and became ancient Persians okay

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the other part came to India and these

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were the Arians oh but we are not going

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to use the word Arians because racist

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people took that word and they have

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completely changed the meaning of the

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word Arian yeah so we'll refer to them

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as step herders all right okay fair but

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these are the guys who came in with a

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language which was one of the ancestors

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of Sanskrit and they came in with

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religion which was one of the ancestors

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of the Vic religion okay okay but what

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the DNA evidence shows is that these

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guys came and they settled and they

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intermixed with the local populations

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huh which is

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thei and Asi okay but in a very

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interesting manner the DNA evidence

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shows that only the male DNA from Step

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herders is there in India today ah

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almost all the female DNA is from The

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ancestral hunter gatherers not even from

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the Middle Eastern preformers that's

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very interesting so first of all how do

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we know this okay our DNA actually is

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two different sets of DNA one is the

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regular DNA that you all know about and

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that half you get from your mother half

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you get from your father right but in

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the mitochondria there is mitochondrial

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DNA and 100% of it has come from your

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mother and she has gotten it from her

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mother and she has gotten it from her

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mother so you can trace a unbroken line

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back through all the mothers so

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mitochondria is not just the power of

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the cell it is also a record of all your

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ancestral DNA of sorts of female

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ancestral DNA right okay so what we know

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is that the Steppy herders probably came

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here without women and they started

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intermixing with local women not just

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that but looks like like at least some

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places they out competed the local men

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okay so their percentages increased okay

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and just like the indust valley people

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some of them slowly moved South but not

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a whole lot so again there is a

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gradation right in North India maximum

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30% DNA is Step harder male DNA in South

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India it is as low as 10% there are a

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few tribals who have 0% step DNA okay so

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at this point North India is mostly

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Middle Eastern pre farer DNA with

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probably an equal amount of seep farmer

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and ancient Hunter gathered DNA mixed in

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so 40 30 30 is the breakup percentage

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there you go and South India is more of

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the Middle Eastern preformer DNA because

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at this point through the indis valley

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civilization and etc etc they've come in

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so it's mostly Middle Eastern pre-former

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DNA with uh uh another large part of uh

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ancient Hunter gather DNA but only a

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small part of the step Herer DNA mixing

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in yeah so actually it's 10% step Herer

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40% uh Middle Eastern pre farer and 50%

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ancestral uh hunter gatherers ah okay

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ancestral not ancient sorry but uh then

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these are the dravidians that we speak

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about just checking yes okay by the way

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another thing to keep in mind is that

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the amount of DNA varies quite a lot by

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cast Okay Okay in North India huh if you

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look at the amount of Step Herer DNA

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different casts have different amounts

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and the maximum is in the brahmins and

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the bmars the casts which were

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traditionally in charge of Sanskrit and

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of the rituals of Puja and all of that

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okay and it reduces as you go over to

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the other casts it kind of makes sense

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when you realize that a lot of your

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initial rituals might have forbidden

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going out of your tribe and from the

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tribe casts were born kind of but it's

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very interesting to note that your DNA

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percentages are regulated by cast well

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that's a tricky question okay okay

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because two things H one is that up till

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about 100 AD okay so from 1300 BC for

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the next 14500

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years there was lots of intermixing

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going on okay okay the DNA evidence they

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have looked at the ancient DNA and they

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have also looked at DNA of 70 different

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groups of modern Indians and they have

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done an analysis and what they found is

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that there was lots of intermix across

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all casts and jatis and whatever

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happening until about 100 AD and then it

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just kind of stopped and since 100 AD

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until Modern India there is very little

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intermixing across casts so DNA from 100

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AD of a particular cast will be very

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similar to that same cast today because

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suddenly you became endogamous that is

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marrying within your cast yeah so

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another interesting finding

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related to our cast from DNA wow so from

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100 AD till about 200 ad for about 1900

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years we were endogamous we were only

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marrying within the cast and only in

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recent times this entire intercast

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marriage has sort of again allowed us to

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mix dnas very interesting we started

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about 65,000 years ago and we've just

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reached 2008 and probably 2024 so I

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think to summarize right Indians are mix

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of ancient hunter gatherers from 65,000

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years ago from Africa Middle Eastern

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farmers who came 6,000 to 4,000 BC

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correct and step herders who came around

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1800 BC right all Indians are a mix of

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all three correct okay there is nobody

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who's only step Herer or only Aran or

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whatever yeah all the languages are also

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a mix what the step herders brought in

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mixed with what the north Indians were

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doing mixed with what the South Indians

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were doing very likely that the ancient

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hunter gatherers in South India had an

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old language probably Proto Davidian and

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the Indus Valley languages mixed with

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that to form dravidian

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languages and then the step herders came

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in with the pre Sanskrit and that mixed

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with all of this to form Sanskrit and

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then those formed all the modern Indian

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languages right wow okay now suddenly

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the history of ancient India and India

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in modern times uh ties in very

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beautifully together but my first

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question Still Remains how do we now

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know for sure that this is a migration

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and not an invasion what part of this

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entire Theory or this entire research

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disproves The Invasion part we don't see

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evidence that should have been there if

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it was an invasion okay there are no no

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large numbers of massacred victims as

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would happen at the end of a war there

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is no large scale destruction of

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property what we see is more consistent

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with a gradual decline over centuries

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okay no sudden DNA changes when a

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foreign power comes in and takes over

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there is a sudden change in DNA but here

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everything was very gradual correct and

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because generally back in those days uh

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any foreign power coming in trying to

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invade would basically be committing

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genocide be LGE scale deaths and

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massacres and entire DNA line lineages

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wiped out correct another thing is no

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sudden changes in material culture like

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the pottery and the implements and the

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tools those also changed very gradually

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correct and no Sudden Change in

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languages right you know otherwise when

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muls came in suddenly you're switching

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over to Persian right but instead here

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there was just a very gradual change in

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languages so all of this points to it

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being a gradual change and second is if

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you look at the DNA evidence the

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so-called Arians the step herders

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ultimately were only like a small

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percent of the DNA correct right so two

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things to keep in mind right so that

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explains why it's not an invasion this

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entire episode just explained why it is

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not out of India and the Aran migration

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into India rather than invasion of India

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makes more

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sense a completely new outlook into the

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whole theory that we've been learning

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half and half since school and lots to

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think about lots to take home drop your

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thoughts in the comments for sure which

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