A Two-State Solution is NOT the solution (So what is?) #palestine #israel
Summary
TLDRThe script argues that a two-state solution for Israel and Palestine is unrealistic. It claims the core issue is not land or occupation, but rather the Palestinian goal since early on has been to eliminate Israel. It points to the lack of democracy and human rights in Muslim-majority countries as evidence that compromise and peaceful coexistence are not valued. The script urges listeners to understand the problem fully, claiming past negotiations have failed because Palestinians reject compromise, not because of settlements. It concludes that real change can only happen when Palestinians adopt democratic values, stop infighting, recognize Israel, and give up the goal of destroying Israel.
Takeaways
- 😕 The speaker does not actually support the two-state solution he says others do
- 😢 The speaker believes the core problem is that Palestinians want to eliminate Israel, not just regain land
- 🤔 The speaker sees little evidence of democratic values or human rights in Muslim countries
- 😠 The speaker believes surrounding Muslim countries would destroy Israel if they could
- 😤 The speaker sees Palestinian violence against Israel as serious, not just rhetoric
- 🧐 The speaker argues Palestinians have rejected two-state solutions repeatedly over history
- 😌 The speaker sees Israeli society as politically diverse and non-violent unlike neighbors
- 🙁 The speaker does not see a solution anytime soon given attitudes on the Arab side
- 🤨 The speaker challenges viewers to prove him wrong with factual historical examples
- 😃 The speaker welcomes disagreement if substantiated thoughtfully
Q & A
What is the main point of view of the Palestinians and the Muslim world regarding Israel?
-The main point of view is that Israel should be eliminated. This view has existed before the establishment of Israel in 1948 and before there were any settlements in the West Bank and Gaza.
According to the speaker, what is the core problem preventing peace between Israelis and Palestinians?
-The core problem is that the Palestinian leadership, from the beginning, has sought to eliminate the Jewish state, not live beside it. They have rejected numerous opportunities to establish their own state.
What does the speaker say is the difference between Israeli and Palestinian/Arab societies when it comes to values like democracy and human rights?
-The speaker says that while Israeli society is highly diverse and democratic despite challenges, you do not see democracy, human rights, or thriving minorities in most Muslim/Arab countries, including Palestinian territories.
Why does the speaker frequently reference Syria?
-To highlight the hypocrisy of pro-Palestinians who protest Israel but not the atrocities committed by Arab regimes. Also to illustrate what such regimes/societies are capable of doing.
What evidence does the speaker provide that a unique Palestinian identity or people did not exist in history?
-He quotes Zuheir Mohsen, a leader of the PLO, who said in 1977 that a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical political reasons to oppose Zionism, and there are no differences between Arabs across the region.
What were the Mandates established after World War I regarding the former Ottoman territories?
-The defeated Ottoman territories were divided between Britain and France to administer as Mandates under supervision of the League of Nations, including establishing a Jewish homeland in Palestine.
Why does the speaker say the land belongs to the Jews according to international law?
-Because the 1920 San Remo conference and subsequent League of Nations mandates supported establishing a homeland for the Jews in Palestine, which was later reaffirmed internationally.
What evidence does the speaker provide that Arabs were not willing to compromise on partition?
-He notes the Arabs rejected partition plans in 1937 and 1947 before Israel's establishment and 1948-1967 when they could have had a state. They maintained the view Israel should be eliminated.
What does the speaker say is the main obstacle to a peaceful solution?
-The Arab side does not truly accept compromise or Israel's legitimacy, and the violence and eliminationist rhetoric over decades makes negotiations fruitless until their views fundamentally change.
When does the speaker say the conflict might be resolved?
-When the Arabs are ready to recognize Israel, become democratic societies, stop killing each other, and prove they accept Israel's legitimacy. So likely not anytime soon.
Outlines
😕 History of failed partition plans
The paragraph provides historical context about failed attempts to partition the land into Arab and Jewish states. It mentions rejected proposals in 1937, 1947, after Israel's founding in 1948, and in the 1990s/2000s. The author argues the core issue is not settlements or occupation but rather the Palestinian goal to eliminate Israel, referencing quotes showing this sentiment over the past 100 years.
😟 Palestinian and broader Muslim society lacks democratic values
The paragraph contrasts Israeli democracy and diversity with Muslim countries lacking the same. It is used to argue that the values of Muslim society, including Palestinians, make them unlikely to accept and sustain a two-state solution over time. Syria is referenced as an example of Muslim-on-Muslim violence suggesting how they would treat Israel if given the chance.
😕 No historical evidence of stolen Palestinian land
The paragraph challenges the claim that Jews stole Palestinian land. It cites historical records and a 1977 quote from a PLO leader stating there was no Palestinian national identity. It argues Jews, Arabs, and others moved freely during Ottoman rule, and says no evidence exists of Jewish settlements stealing Arab land.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡two-state solution
💡Palestinians
💡eliminate
💡rejection
💡violence
💡hypocrisy
💡stolen land
💡international law
💡compromise
💡change
Highlights
The main problem is that Palestinians have always sought to eliminate Israel, not lack of opportunities to create their own state.
Palestinian and broader Muslim society lacks democratic values like compromise and openness to other opinions, usually resulting in high violence.
The reasonable idea of a two-state solution has been rejected by Arabs for 100 years, before settlements or occupation.
Palestinian leaders have always demanded all the land, not a percentage - they are clear about wanting to eliminate Israel.
Syria's civil war shows what Arab groups are capable of doing to each other, revealing how seriously their threats to eliminate Israel should be taken.
There has never been a distinct Palestinian identity - they considered themselves part of the broader Arab nation until it became useful to claim a separate identity.
Jews did not steal any Arab land - name one settlement built on stolen land. Land was given to Jews by international law after Ottoman collapse.
In 1922, League of Nations reaffirmed the British Mandate to build Jewish homeland without harming rights of non-Jews - no "occupation".
Despite Arab rejectionism for 100+ years, Jews compromized to split the land while Arabs refused - they see compromise as weakness.
First step is understanding the problem - don't negotiate with groups trying to eliminate you for 100+ years.
Any solution requires Arabs to change - become democratic, recognize Israel, stop killing each other. Not soon.
The Palestinian leader in 1940s called to "kill Jews wherever you find them" before any settlements existed.
Point to any example of Christians, gays and other minorities thriving in Muslim countries to disprove Arab hatred and rejectionism.
I don't like saying this and wish to be proven wrong - show any speech of Arab peace and coexistence from history.
Please share this with anyone who still believes in two-state solution. See the essence of the conflict.
Transcripts
you might be looking at the Middle East
and saying to yourself why can't they
just get along instead of fighting
endlessly why can't they break the cycle
of violence and just divide the land
into two and have peace it's not that
hard and you are 100% right if you
support a two-state solution you are
probably a positive rational good person
but you are not a very good listener so
please listen carefully because I'm
going to explain why you are failing to
understand the
situation a quick note before I start I
don't like what I'm about to say I wish
I could say that this was nothing more
than a territorial dispute and only a
few extremists from both sides have
prevented this simple good idea of
partition from being implemented I wish
I could say that the Arab Muslim
countries surrounding Israel are
peaceful places and only the
Palestinians have this single issue with
Israel but that once they have their own
State the issue will be resolved I wish
I could tell you that I have honestly
wanted to and try to believe in this for
years this correlates with all my values
I I hold if there is an argument or
disagreement then fighting is not the
answer rather you should find a mid
ground and get on with it sadly the
reality of the Middle East makes it
clear that this is not how it works in
this region if you want to offer up a
solution to a problem you first need to
understand the problem and the people
involved the problem in a nutshell is
not that the Palestinians haven't had
opportunities to establish the state in
fact they have had plenty the problem is
that the Palestinian scho from the
beginning from the n in quaries has been
to eliminate the Jewish State this is
the main point of view of the
Palestinians and indeed of a very large
part of the Muslim world today 50 years
ago and 100 years ago it has a nothing
to do with the settlements or the
occupation since the hate was already
there before 1967 when Israel got hold
of the West Bank and Gaza and it was
already there before Israel was
established
in
1948 before I talk about the history a
quick word about the people and the
difference between Jewish Israeli
society and Palestinian Arab Muslim
Society Israeli Society is highly
diverse and yet the levels of political
violence are very low despite its many
challenges both domestic and foreign
Israel remains a democracy Now take a
look at what is happening outside Israel
is at the Muslim countries in the Middle
East the rich ones the poor ones the
Sunni ones the Shia ones those in Africa
and those in Asia do you see democracy
do you see human rights do you see
thriving minorities do you see freedom
and
peace not so much now if you know that
I'm right but you don't like what I just
said you might say that it is not
relevant to the topic well I disagree
because it tells us something about the
values of Muslim Society democracy is
not just a system of government forced
on the people from above is the way of
life and um mindset that most westerners
take for granted and don't appreciate
enough the idea that I can say anything
I want to say and you can say anything
you want to say and that there are free
elections and political parties have to
compromise and step down without
violence is not something that you will
find in Syria and Iran and Saudi Arabia
and our Palestinian authorities whether
in Gaza or the West Bank and well you
don't have these values of democracy
compromise and openness to other
opinions you usually see high levels of
violence both domestic and foreign I
often site Syria as an example in my
videos and I get a lot of push back for
it I'm not drawing attention to the
civil war in Syria to say that if they
can kill half a million then we can too
no the last thing I want is for Israel
to have the standards of an Arab country
hell no I use Syria as an example to
highlight the hypocrisy of the prop
Palestinians in the west where are all
the protests when asset kills half a
million syrians where are all the prop
Palestinian students I guess the that if
Israel can't be blamed it is not that
interesting right but the main reason I
talk about Syria is that if these
syrians can do these terrible things to
one another what will they do to us if
they get a chance it is the same with
Iran see how they treat their own people
shooting their women on the streets when
the Palestinians and Syria and Iran and
millions of Muslims say that they want
to eliminate Israel I believe them I
actually take it literally not just as a
way of speaking which might be the way
the West understands it I see what they
are capable of doing to each other and I
take them very seriously the way you act
inside your house is the same way you
act outside of it and the reasonable
logical idea of dividing the land into
two has been rejected by the Arabs for
100 years it has been rejected by the
Arabs in 1937 it was rejected in 1947
from 1948 until 1967 they didn't
establish a state although they were
under the rule of Arab countries in the
1990s and the early 2000s Arafat and
Mahmud abas didn't agree to any of the
deals proposed and even after Israel
withdrew from Gaza the Palestinians were
very clear about what their objective
was the Arabs in Palestine rejected the
partition plan both before the
establishment of Israel and after the
establishment of Israel they rejected
the idea before there was a single
settlement and after the settlements
they rejected the partition Plan before
the occupation and after the occupation
if you are a rational person you need to
eventually understand what's going on
here you can't force a good idea like
the two-state solution on someone who
says they are not interested and act
accordingly against again and again
wishful thinking is great when aimed at
yourself wishful thinking is dangerous
when you impose it on those who have
actively rejected it for 100 years
another interesting fact that is being
ignored by those who support a two-state
solution is that the Arabs have never
said we want more land we want 70% or
80% of it and then we will say yes all
their leaders from Haj Amin husseini in
the 1940s till sinir today have said the
same thing they were and are very
straightforward about it they want it
all the Hamas Covenant which 70% of the
Palestinian support starts with the
following line Israel will exist until
Islam wipes it out it couldn't be
clearer than that I find it absurd that
those who call themselves pro peace
activist see themselves as good
listeners while listening to the noble
voices in their own heads rather than to
what the other side is actually saying
now the prop Palestinians will say that
the colonial Jews came and stole their
land so of course they don't want to
give half of it to those who stole it I
have debanked these arguments many times
before but I'm happy to do so again but
from a different angle there has never
been a Palestinian people but don't take
my word for it I'm just a Zionist
instead listen to zohir Mosen a
Palestinian leader of the PLO the
Palestine Liberation Organization who
said in
1977 the Palestinian people does not
exist there is no difference between
jordanians Palestinians syrians and
Lebanese we are all part of one people
the Arab Nation just for political
reasons we carefully underwrite our
Palestinian identity because it is of
national interest for the Arabs to
Advocate the existence of Palestinians
to balance
Zionism the existence of a separate
Palestinian identity exists only for
tactical reasons and it is not just one
quote not once did a pilgrim to the Holy
Land and there have been millions of pil
over the last 2,000 years met a
Palestinian in the ottoman period in the
17 18 and 19th centuries the borders
were open Arabs came here from Sudan and
Egypt and Syria Jews came from Yemen and
Russia and Morocco and there were even
some German Villages and the Jews like
the Muslims and the Germans and the
Russian B land not once did the Jews Ste
land from local Arabs I get thousands of
comments from Pro Palestinians about the
Jews stealing land go and do your
homework and give me the name of one
Jewish
settlement that was built on Stolen Arab
land the only land they lost was the
land they lost in a war that they
started and by the way according to
international law the land belongs to
the Jews many on both sides some tends
to forget this but the land of Israel
was given to the Jews by the League of
Nations to understand that decision you
need to have a better understanding of
the balur Declaration of
1917 Arthur balur was the foreign
Secretary of the British government and
he issued a declaration on behalf of the
cabinet which supported a home for the
Jewish people in Palestine now this is a
very important declaration made by one
country that then was very important but
it is just a declaration so what the
thing is that in 1920 there was the Sano
conference this was an International
Conference held in order to deal with
the question of what to do with the
lands of the otoman Empire which has
collapsed during the course of World War
I it was decided that the land would be
divided between the French and the
British but not as colonies in which
they could do whatever they wanted but
as mandates these were mandates to
execute the decisions of the league of
nation which included building a
Homeland for the Jews without harming
the religious and civil rights of the
non-jewish
communities the Palestinians by the way
were not mentioned either by the
international Empires or by the local
Arab leaders and why is that because
back then there was no such a thing as a
Palestinian in 1922 the Mandate was
reaffirmed by the League of Nations but
why am I telling you this in a video
about the partition first to remind you
that according to international law the
land belongs to the Jews and there is no
occupation not in Tel Aviv and not in
Judea and Samaria which are known as the
West Bank because the land was given to
the Jews and recognized by the
International Community and second to
emphasize that the Jews were willing to
compromise to split the land so that we
could live here together while the Arabs
were not willing to make this compromise
the thing is that while we Israelis see
compromise as a good thing the Arab side
sees it as a weakness as a step that
prevents them from eliminating Israel so
what is the solution a single state
first of all understanding the problem
and not just super quoting it is already
a big step forward second you don't
negotiate with the violent people who
have been trying to wipe you out for
more than 100 years the solution will
only come when the Arabs change their
ways when they are ready to recognize
Israel when they are democratic and when
they stop killing one another will it
happen anytime soon I don't think so but
sadly that is the only way in other
words the solution is not just around
the corner now let's say you disagree
with me you could write free Palestine
in the comments or you can do the smart
thing and let me know what I got wrong
again I don't like what I just said here
I want you to find a quote by haaj
husseini the leader of the Arabs in
Palestine in the 1940s talking about the
Arab State and a Jewish State peacefully
coexisting next to one another under any
conditions other quotes that I know him
to have said go something like this
Arabs Rises one and fight for your
sacred rights kill the Jews wherever you
find them this is is God history and
religion this saves your honor God is
with you and this was said before there
were even any settlements prove me wrong
by giving me an example of minorities of
Christians gay non binary s males
thriving in Muslim countries maybe
you're thinking that I'm right but there
is another point of view that I have
forgotten I will listen I love smart
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two-stage solution see you next week
yala
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