How To Build A Tech Startup With No Technical Skills

Dalton & Michael
30 Nov 202315:14

Summary

TLDRIn this video, the speakers discuss the critical need for business founders to recruit exceptional technical co-founders. They emphasize that great software companies are built by great software engineers and highlight the importance of finding someone who shares the same level of commitment and passion as a founder. The video offers insights on how to identify and approach potential technical partners, stressing that the best business founders are also great recruiters, and that offering a sense of adventure and partnership can be compelling to potential co-founders.

Takeaways

  • 🤝 The importance of having a technical co-founder for a software startup cannot be overstated; it's crucial for success.
  • 🚀 Successful business founders are those who can recruit amazing technical co-founders, creating a powerful synergy.
  • 📝 Many aspiring founders overlook the necessity of a technical co-founder, which can significantly reduce their chances of success.
  • 💡 The script emphasizes that the best business founders are those who can find and work with great software engineers.
  • 🛠️ Starting a software company without a technical co-founder is akin to building a rocket without knowledge of physics.
  • 🔍 The video suggests that business people often need to reassess their expectations and qualifications for a technical co-founder.
  • 🎯 It's suggested that business founders should aim to recruit the best person they've ever worked with, rather than settling for less.
  • 🤔 The script encourages founders to consider why they haven't approached the best potential co-founders and to overcome self-imposed barriers.
  • 💼 Having a technical co-founder is not just beneficial for purely tech businesses but also for 'tech-enabled' companies.
  • 🤝 The process of finding a co-founder should involve collaboration and shared ownership, not just a search for an employee.
  • 🌟 The pitch to a potential co-founder should be about the adventure and opportunity of building something significant together, not just executing someone else's idea.

Q & A

  • What is the main topic of the video script?

    -The main topic of the video script is the importance of having a technical co-founder for business people who want to start a software or tech-enabled company.

  • Why do business people often seek technical co-founders according to the script?

    -Business people often seek technical co-founders because they recognize the need for technical expertise to bring their business ideas to life, especially in the tech industry.

  • What is the key secret to being a successful business co-founder as mentioned in the script?

    -The key secret to being a successful business co-founder, as mentioned in the script, is the ability to recruit amazing technical co-founders.

  • What does the script suggest about the intersection of great business founders and those who can recruit technical co-founders?

    -The script suggests that the intersection of great business founders and those who can recruit technical co-founders is a special class with fewer people, which can significantly distinguish a business.

  • Why do some business people dismiss the idea of finding a technical co-founder?

    -Some business people dismiss the idea of finding a technical co-founder because they find it too hard, or they believe they can't find the right person, leading them to proceed without one.

  • What is the comparison made in the script between starting a software company without a technical co-founder and other ventures?

    -The script compares starting a software company without a technical co-founder to building a rocket to the moon without knowing physics, emphasizing the absurdity and reduced chances of success.

  • What does the script imply about the role of a technical co-founder in a software startup?

    -The script implies that a technical co-founder is crucial in a software startup, as they provide the necessary technical expertise and commitment to build and iterate on the product effectively.

  • What is the script's stance on the idea that software is just a part of the business, not the core?

    -The script argues that even if software is not the core of the business, the speed of shipping software and having a great technical team is critical to the success of companies like Airbnb or DoorDash.

  • What advice does the script give to business people who feel they cannot find a technical co-founder?

    -The script advises business people to not disqualify potential co-founders too quickly, to consider working at a startup to meet the right people, and to pitch the idea of an adventure rather than just an idea.

  • What is the script's view on the importance of the 'adventure' aspect when pitching to potential technical co-founders?

    -The script views the 'adventure' aspect as a compelling factor when pitching to potential technical co-founders, suggesting that the excitement of embarking on a new venture can be a strong motivator.

  • How does the script address the concern of business people who feel they are not qualified to judge technical talent?

    -The script encourages business people to think about who the best person they have ever worked with is and to consider recruiting them as a co-founder, implying that their judgment of character and work ethic is valuable.

Outlines

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🤝 The Importance of Technical Co-founders in Business

This paragraph discusses the vital role of technical co-founders in the success of a business, particularly in the tech industry. The speaker emphasizes that great software companies are built by great software engineers and that business people should embrace this reality. The paragraph highlights the common issue faced by aspiring founders who struggle to find or recruit technical co-founders, and the importance of not just having an idea, but also the ability to bring together a team that can execute it. The speaker also points out that the best business founders are those who can recruit amazing technical co-founders, which is a distinguishing factor in the entrepreneurial world.

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🚀 Overcoming Challenges to Find the Right Tech Talent

The second paragraph delves into the challenges of finding the right technical talent for a startup. It addresses the misconception that a business can succeed without a strong technical co-founder, using the analogy of building a rocket without knowledge of physics. The speaker argues that even companies that are not strictly tech businesses, such as DoorDash or Airbnb, rely heavily on their ability to quickly develop and ship software. The paragraph also touches on the importance of having a co-founder who is deeply invested in the company's success, as opposed to hiring engineers who may not share the same level of commitment.

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🛠️ The Art of Recruitment and Building a Strong Team

This paragraph focuses on the art of recruitment and the importance of building a strong team, especially for non-technical founders. It suggests that if a business person does not know where to find technical co-founders, they might consider working at a startup to expand their network. The speaker encourages founders to think about the best person they've ever worked with and consider how they might recruit such an individual to be a co-founder. The paragraph also discusses the importance of offering more than just an idea, but the adventure and potential for shared success that comes with starting a company together.

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🎉 Embracing the Adventure of Entrepreneurship

The final paragraph wraps up the discussion by emphasizing the adventure and excitement of entrepreneurship. It suggests that successful non-technical founders are often great recruiters who can attract top talent by offering not just a job, but a journey of shared ambition and discovery. The speaker encourages founders to hold themselves to the same standard as these successful individuals and to use the process of recruitment as a way to 'bend the universe to their will,' ultimately leading to greater success in their ventures.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Technical Co-founder

A technical co-founder is an individual with expertise in technology, software development, or engineering who is a founding member of a startup, often contributing to the product's creation and innovation. In the video, the importance of having a technical co-founder is emphasized as crucial for the success of a software startup. The script mentions that the best business founders recruit amazing technical co-founders, which is a key distinction and a common opening question from aspiring founders.

💡Business Co-founder

A business co-founder is someone with strong business acumen who is responsible for the strategic, operational, and financial aspects of a startup. The script discusses the dynamic between business and technical co-founders, highlighting the need for great business people to partner with great technical minds to build successful companies.

💡Recruiting

Recruiting in the context of the video refers to the process of identifying, attracting, and persuading talented individuals to join a startup as co-founders or key team members. The script stresses that the best business founders are those who can recruit amazing technical co-founders, which is a critical skill for startup success.

💡Software Startup

A software startup is a company that primarily focuses on creating and selling software products. The video's theme revolves around the importance of having a technical co-founder in a software startup, as it is likened to building a rocket to the moon without knowledge of physics, emphasizing the absurdity of attempting such a venture without the necessary technical expertise.

💡Idea

In the video, an 'idea' refers to the initial concept or plan for a new product or service. The script points out that while ideas are important, they are not enough on their own and that great ideas need to be coupled with the right technical expertise to be successfully executed.

💡Success

Success in the context of the video is the achievement of a startup's goals, often measured by the growth, profitability, and impact of the company. The script argues that having a technical co-founder significantly increases the chances of a startup's success due to their critical role in product development and innovation.

💡Adventure

Adventure in the video is used metaphorically to describe the excitement, risks, and opportunities associated with starting a company. The script suggests that pitching a startup as an adventure can be an effective way to attract potential co-founders and team members who are looking for a challenging and rewarding experience.

💡Hustle

Hustle in the script refers to the drive, determination, and relentless effort that entrepreneurs often exhibit to overcome obstacles and achieve their goals. It is mentioned in the context of a business person's attitude towards finding a technical co-founder and the willingness to put in the effort to make it happen.

💡10x Engineer

A '10x Engineer' is a term used to describe a software engineer who is exceptionally talented and productive, capable of achieving ten times the output of an average engineer. The video suggests that having a '10x Engineer' as a co-founder can be a game-changer for a startup, contributing significantly to its success.

💡Marketplace Software

Marketplace software refers to the type of platform that facilitates transactions between different parties, such as buyers and sellers. In the script, it is used as an example of a type of software that a startup might create, and the importance of having a technical co-founder to build and iterate on such a platform is discussed.

💡White Label Software

White label software is a generic, non-branded version of a product that can be customized and sold under a different company's name. The video argues against relying on white label software for a startup, stating that the lack of a dedicated technical co-founder to tailor and improve the software can lead to failure.

Highlights

The importance of having a technical co-founder for business people with great ideas to succeed in the tech startup world.

The common challenge faced by aspiring founders in finding a technical co-founder.

The key secret to being the best business co-founder is recruiting amazing technical co-founders.

The distinction between good business people and those who can recruit great technical talent.

The misconception that having a technical co-founder is not necessary for success in the tech industry.

The analogy of building a rocket to the moon without knowing physics to emphasize the absurdity of starting a tech company without a technical co-founder.

The argument that great software companies are built by great software engineers, not just by great ideas.

The reality that having a technical co-founder increases the chances of success significantly in a tech startup.

The importance of not dismissing the search for a technical co-founder as too hard and instead embracing the challenge.

The advice for business people to not start a company without a technical co-founder, similar to not building a rocket without a physicist.

The perspective that having a technical co-founder is a golden opportunity and should be pursued actively.

The suggestion to not start a company if the right technical co-founder cannot be found, and instead to expand one's network.

The strategy of visualizing the best person one has ever worked with and considering them as a potential co-founder.

The idea that pitching an adventure, not just an idea, can attract the best talent to join a startup.

The emphasis on the rarity of opportunities to embark on an adventure, which can be a compelling factor in recruiting a co-founder.

The insight that successful non-technical founders are often great recruiters who manage to attract top talent.

The conclusion that being a great recruiter and finding the best person to work with is a pattern seen in successful founders.

Transcripts

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you're offering Adventure you're

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offering the unknown and Adventure isn't

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here's my idea for a social network for

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dogs will you build my website no let's

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build a company together together

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yes welcome to Doon plus Michael today

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we're going to talk

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about why business folks need great

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technical

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co-founders so who's this video for

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Let's talk about the business folks

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we're talking to yeah I think to set

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this up um Michael and I both talk to a

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lot of aspiring Founders in any number

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of different venues on the street at

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conferences in interviews wherever like

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they find us they find us and one of the

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more common opening lines is something

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like well I'm a really good business

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person with a great idea I have the best

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ideas yes you know how do I need a

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technical co-founder or how do I find a

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technical co-founder or I can't find any

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good technical co-founders like this is

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one of the number one opening questions

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we get when we meet people in the real

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world yes and so this video is aimed at

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all of those people that ask all these

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questions that we have met and all the

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people that haven't met us that might be

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thinking these questions and what we

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want to do is give you the key secret to

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actually being the best business

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co-founder and we're not going to hide

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it we're going to put it right up front

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the best business

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Founders recruit amazing Technical

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co-founders and that is how they

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distinguish themselves that is the

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number one distinction so it's not

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what's on your resume where you worked

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the fact that you were some fancy

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executive that you're tall people like

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to go and have drinks with you you've

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got Amazing Ideas

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unfortunately there are a lot of folks

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like that yeah imagine the set of people

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imagine the intersection there's the set

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of people that are great business

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Founders yes and there's the set of

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people that can recruit amazing

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technical co-founders yes you want to be

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in the intersection of those two sets

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and there's not many people no that puts

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you in a very special class well and I

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would I would argue it it is so

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distinguishing that you're given amazing

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opportunities um but what's tricky is

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not only to people not see this um or to

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people try and not get a Tech Co or they

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just dismiss it out of hand it's too

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hard like they'll just kind of like shut

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this line that's what's even more common

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it's just that like well I I can't find

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this person so I'm just going along yeah

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I don't know anyone okay you know and

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this is the crazy thing because like a

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lot of people will pitch this to me as

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like but this is the true Spirit of an

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entrepreneurism like no barrier can

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prevent me from getting my product to

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market right like I couldn't find

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technical co-founder so I just moved to

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the next challenge I hired some

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Engineers or I got a Dev shop and like

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nothing will keep

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me will hold me back back and what's so

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sad about that way of thinking about it

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is that like one the percentage chances

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of death just went through the roof

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right like you've just

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completely reduced your chances of

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success but

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two I bet if you would put the same

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amount of effort you put into getting a

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product to Market without a great

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technical founder into finding a great

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technical founder at least half people

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would be able to do it yeah and so it's

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just like it's a shame because it's so

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much wasted Talent yeah I I like to

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think about it this way again we are

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what we're talking about implicitly

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let's make it explicit we're talking

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about a company that uses software as a

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deep part of it so Teck software startup

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if we're talking about a software

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startup yes and you somehow don't have a

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technical co-founder this would be like

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I'm going to build a rocket to the moon

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yes but no one here knows anything about

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physics we can my I have such a big

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heart we can just like like I have such

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Hustle I'm Johnny hustle I'm going to

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the Moon Michael like do you see how

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absurd that is but and the as is okay if

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you want to start a new clothing brand

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or a liquor brand okay you don't need

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this doesn't OB but if you're if you're

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saying yeah I'm going to build a

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software company and you don't have a

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software co-founder it just you're not

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even in the in the ball game you're not

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even in the stadium well what's so sad

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for me is like when I say that to people

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sometimes they think I'm trying to

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discourage them but if you go back to

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that I'm going to prove you wrong

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Michael I'm going to learn physics yeah

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and I'm like I am not trying to like I

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am trying to tell you the number or like

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I came to you for advice about my

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product but you're telling me I need a

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co- you're insulting me Michael yeah

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yeah and it's just like no I'm trying to

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give you the most important thing I can

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tell you and you know what interesting

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is that like this is advice is informed

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by my personal experience right like I

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was the single non-technical person on a

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forers co-founding team at Justin TV and

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twitch and like uh I'll just make it

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plain without my three other co-founders

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none of that happens like ideas are

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a dime a dozen and so um I think that

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more business people need to embrace the

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idea that great software companies are

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built by great software Engineers yep a

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common retort out here is like d we're

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not building a software business

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software is in there but it's not that

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it's a tech enabled yeah we're just

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building a simple marketplace right like

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we can just use jedit Marketplace

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software it's just a copy of door Dash

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with a little twist why do we need a

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great software engineer what's your

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response you know it's hard to win that

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debate in theory like it's hard to

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convince someone just in the debate

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they'll be like well we're just going to

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agree to disagree yes but I think if you

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just look at the facts of the companies

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we funded like literally door Dash or

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literally Airbnb or any of these folks

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yes they lived and died by their speed

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of shipping software and if they what

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they did was buy white label software or

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have some Dev shop in a foreign country

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making edits to the website there's a 0%

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chance those companies would have worked

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yeah and so again who am I to say there

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won't be some future company that maybe

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uses one of these things yes but the

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more that the more that we're exposed to

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seeing what these companies look like at

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the earliest stages even if they don't

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look like strictly Tech

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businesses man there's no way these

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things would have gotten off the ground

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without having a really great person who

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cared as much as a co-founder cares yes

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building this thing day in and day out

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versus someone ripping you off charging

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you $500 an hour to change some words on

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the website and you don't even know

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you're not even ball game like it's not

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even well what what pisses me off is

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that like I think in other areas um that

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are equally as hard as being successful

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Tech founder let's say Athletics I think

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more people are realistic about it

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strangely like the equivalent is you

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know a 5'4 person who doesn't

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jump can't run yeah and like got a lot

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of heart mangles yeah they're not that

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many of those people who are saying to

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the world I want to be in the NBA right

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whereas we see the equivalent of that in

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startups all the time and it's like it's

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one thing if you're 66 and like you're

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like a great high school basketball

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player you probably won't make the NBA

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but like all right at least you you're

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in the stadium in the stadium you're

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amongst the million people who could

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yeah and I think that people are not

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honest with themselves and I think what

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we're trying to do is give you this

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secret which is that

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like you can almost get a ticket to

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being in the game and it requires

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recruiting one person yep how cool is

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that like this shouldn't be seen as a

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negative it like an extreme positive

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it's like a golden what is it Willy

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Wonka ticket and and even if you are

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technical yourself or sometimes people

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are medium technical like so I I was a

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technical CEO but I still tremendously

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benefited by having an additional

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technical co-founder and so this is also

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a thing where you're not like okay well

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I you know I can kind of I can kind of

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okay that doesn't

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count there's actually tremendous

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benefits from having someone again who

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cares as much as a Founder who's commit

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as much as a founder and who's at you

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know at the top of the game like a 10x

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engineer on a Founder level you're

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unstoppable and what's weird is

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sometimes we had competitors in in my

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startups whose teams were constructed

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this way horrible Tech talent

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and it was funny in hindsight because we

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never had to be worried they could raise

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more money they could have nicer office

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they could have more

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employees they could have cooler people

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using their it didn't matter like having

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better engineering is the gift that

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gives you more shots every day even if

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you need to Pivot no matter what no

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matter what happens good or bad you're

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in a better position a better position

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to react to these changes yes and I

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think the even scarier thing about this

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is that like when you start with a team

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of business people assessing engineers

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and they are naturally going to start by

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hiring worse Engineers all of your

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future Engineers

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are exactly it compounds bad so okay so

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all right Michael all right you guys

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convinced me I guess whatever but I

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don't you know

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sure guy you know I guess that's a point

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you can make I don't know but Michael I

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don't know anyone where do I find these

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people yeah how again that's what we

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always say in these conversations so how

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what is your response when they tell you

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that so the first thing is that like who

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are you disqualifying and why I can't

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tell you how many business people told

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me well I obviously need a CTO with 10

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years of experience and who've managed

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teams of at least 50 to 100 and I'm like

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you're 23 years old with no years of

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experience why do you need that and

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they're like well because you know when

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we launch this thing's going to get big

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just like come on so first you might be

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disqualifying great people don't do that

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and so let's say you don't know them

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sometimes the number one thing to do if

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you're in this position is to not start

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the company right now is to go get a job

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at a startup is to go change the people

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you know and what's so interesting is

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that like sometimes taking that step

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sideways is the easiest and best path to

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starting Journey with the highest

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likelihood of success well here's the

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thought experiment I encourage people to

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do visualize the best person you have

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ever worked with either in school or in

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your job the best engineer that everyone

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knows is the best person yes can you

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visualize someone okay can you get that

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person to be your co-founder and often

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people are like oh yeah no they would

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never they would never work with me what

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do you mean man or like they're making

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lots of money yeah and again I would

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just stop right there and be like well

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why have you talked to them and they're

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like no they would like basically folks

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put up the barriers yes to negotiate

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against themselves yes right out of the

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gate and again if we Zoom all the way

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out yes so you want to start a company

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you want to do something big but you

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won't actually even bother to try to

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recruit the most obvious person that's a

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candidate that you know but what if they

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say no or you talk to them and they're

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like no I don't think so um what often

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happens again to go deep on this is that

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the way they'll pitch the person is

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they'll pitch them their idea they be

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like I'm an idea guy I've got a great

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idea do you want to be my like worker be

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to go do all my ideas and of course the

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person that's the best person you've

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ever worked with does not want to sit in

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a cage no and do all of the work that

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you give them no and instead I'm like

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well have you asked them what if they

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have startup ideas yeah and then you

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sell yourself where you can come

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together come up with the idea together

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yeah as co-owners and it's shocking how

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often that appears to have never

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occurred to someone like they think the

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idea of finding a tech co-founder is to

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find someone who will basically submit

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to their whims and be like their like

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assistant to find an employee yeah and

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that's not the move man trying to find a

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partner you know it's funny because my

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dad would say this to me about my

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co-founder Justin Khan he was like you

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know Michael Justin's an amazing

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recruiter and I always thought I was

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like what's weird is like I think if

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you're recruited by a good recruiter you

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don't even realize they're a good

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recruiter right but like in hindsight

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I'm like all right so we got me Emmit

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and Kyle to work for him well not work

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for him but to be his co-founders in a

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startup where he was wearing a camera on

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his side streaming his live 247 named

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after him yes named after named

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Justin.tv do you want to work up my

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startup yes it's me yes and and

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and he had raised 50,000

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seems like a great deal Michael yeah

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right and so it's like okay well like

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how did he build that team like you know

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it comes back to like you want to sting

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yourself as a business person go do

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that like that's people should be

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impressed I'm

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impressed you're a great business and

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hey they're working on your idea let's

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even I promise you I have no idea well I

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you know I'll tell you what he promise

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me it wasn't that the idea was going to

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work like

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it was the adventure okay it was the

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adventure and like I think what's so

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interesting when people like don't ask

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their

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friend and they assume oh but they work

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at this company they're never going to

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do it da D it's like they don't realize

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you're offering Adventure you're

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offering the unknown an adventure isn't

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here's my idea for a social network for

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dogs will you build my website no let's

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build a company together together yes

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that's Adventure yes and um what's crazy

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is like when you're pitching Adventure

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there aren't a lot of there aren't a lot

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of Alternatives most people don't have

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six Adventures on the play how often

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does any one person get pitched

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Adventure yeah I know it's usually

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Adventure or

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like so you know it's a good pitch it's

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a good pitch so anyways right I think

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that um we're trying you know I think

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that there's like I'll say this right

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I'm a business guy right I think YC has

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a lot of messaging that's like yeah our

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business guy is important D like you

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don't need them I agree you don't need

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them but I will say this um there are a

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lot of very successful non-technical

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people in our Network that do amazing

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work and I think one of the things that

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if you want to learn from them we're

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trying to give you one of the most

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important patterns we see from those

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folks they're great recruiters and they

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they do this thought experiment of who's

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the best person in the world and they

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find a way to get that person to work

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with them that's bending the universe to

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your will is what that is so you should

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hold yourself to their standard and

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maybe you'll get their success

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all right thanks D

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