David Goggins is a beta male.
Summary
TLDRThe video script discusses the persona of David Goggins, a motivational speaker and former Navy SEAL, through the lens of the speaker's personal experiences and perspectives. The speaker challenges the notion of Goggins as a 'beta male,' critiquing his relationship with his father and suggesting that Goggins' self-discipline and resilience stem from childhood experiences, including physical discipline. The speaker advocates for forgiveness, reconciliation with one's father, and embracing the role of a good father, as a means to overcome personal demons and contribute positively to society.
Takeaways
- 📚 The speaker initially discovered David Goggins through his book 'Can't Hurt Me' and was intrigued by Goggins' portrayal of his father.
- 👨🦳 The speaker perceives Goggins' father as a strong, successful figure who provided for his family, despite being described as abusive by Goggins.
- 🤔 The speaker questions the use of the term 'abuse' in Goggins' narrative, suggesting it may be a reflection of societal trends rather than objective fact.
- 💪 The speaker believes that the discipline Goggins received from his father contributed to his current resilience and self-discipline.
- 👨👦 The speaker suggests that Goggins' relationship with his father may be indicative of a larger societal issue regarding the role and perception of fathers.
- 🧠 The speaker discusses the psychological concept of 'masochism' in relation to Goggins' self-imposed physical challenges and discipline.
- 👨👧👦 The speaker advises Goggins to forgive his father, suggesting that holding resentment is a 'beta male' trait and impedes personal growth.
- 👨👦👦 The speaker encourages Goggins to be a good father to his own children, as a reflection of overcoming his past and embracing the role of a strong male figure.
- 🙏 The speaker proposes that reconciliation with one's father can lead to a deeper connection with the divine, represented as 'God the Father'.
- 👥 The speaker critiques Goggins for having multiple partners and children, viewing it as a sign of immaturity and a lack of commitment.
- 🔄 The speaker emphasizes the importance of transmuting past wounds into strengths, rather than allowing them to define one's identity or behavior.
Q & A
Who is David Goggins and what is the speaker's initial impression of him?
-David Goggins is a well-known figure, possibly for his military background and motivational speaking. The speaker first learned about him about 10 years ago and was initially impressed by his appearance and the title of his book 'Can't Hurt Me,' but did not delve much into his content until prompted by a friend.
What is the speaker's main critique of David Goggins' perspective on his father?
-The speaker criticizes Goggins for labeling his father as abusive and not appreciating the hard work and uniqueness of his father, who he perceives as a strong, successful figure similar to Andrew Tate's father.
How does the speaker view the concept of 'abuse' in the context of parenting?
-The speaker questions the broad use of the term 'abuse' in modern society, suggesting that it is often misused to label men unfairly. He believes that some level of discipline, even physical, is necessary and can be beneficial for children.
What does the speaker suggest about the relationship between David Goggins and his father?
-The speaker suggests that Goggins has not fully reconciled with his father, viewing him as a 'demon' rather than acknowledging the positive aspects of his upbringing and the role his father played in shaping him.
What is the speaker's view on the importance of forgiveness and reconciliation with one's father?
-The speaker emphasizes the importance of forgiveness and reconciliation with one's father, suggesting that this is a key to personal growth and maturity. He believes that holding resentment towards one's father can hinder personal development.
How does the speaker connect the concept of 'beta male' to David Goggins?
-The speaker labels Goggins as a 'beta male' due to his perceived resentment towards his father and his inability to fully reconcile and forgive him, which the speaker believes is a sign of weakness and immaturity.
What is the speaker's opinion on the role of a father in a child's life?
-The speaker believes that a father plays a crucial role in a child's life, providing discipline, guidance, and a model of strength and resilience. He criticizes societal trends that undermine the importance of the father figure.
What advice does the speaker offer to David Goggins regarding his relationship with his father?
-The speaker advises Goggins to forgive his father, to reframe his experiences in a more positive light, and to open his heart to his father and to God the Father, suggesting that this will lead to personal growth and a better understanding of his own strength.
How does the speaker view the concept of 'alpha male' and 'beta male'?
-The speaker views 'alpha male' as someone who is strong, resilient, and a good father figure, embodying qualities of leadership and responsibility. Conversely, a 'beta male' is seen as someone who lacks these qualities, particularly in their relationship with their father and their role as a father themselves.
What is the speaker's perspective on David Goggins' personal life and relationships?
-The speaker criticizes Goggins for having multiple relationships and children with different women, suggesting that this is indicative of a 'beta male' behavior and a lack of commitment and responsibility.
What is the speaker's final message to David Goggins and men in general?
-The speaker's final message is a call to reconcile with one's father, to be a good father oneself, and to embrace the role of fatherhood as a means of personal growth and strength.
Outlines
😐 Reflections on David Goggins' Perception of His Father
The speaker begins by sharing their initial exposure to David Goggins and their impressions from his audiobook 'Can't Hurt Me.' They emphasize a significant point about Goggins' view of his father as abusive, which the speaker interprets differently. The speaker sees Goggins' father as a strong, successful figure who overcame adversity, drawing parallels to Andrew Tate's father. They critique the use of the term 'abuse' in modern society, suggesting it is often misused to label men and reflects on their own experiences with their father, who was strict but not abusive.
💪 The Impact of Discipline on Personal Strength
Continuing the discussion, the speaker argues that Goggins' toughness and self-discipline, as demonstrated through his extreme physical training, are a direct result of the 'beatings' he received from his father as a child. They suggest that such discipline is essential for raising strong individuals and lament modern societal attitudes against corporal punishment. The speaker also touches on the potential psychological effects of growing up in a household without such discipline, referencing studies and personal anecdotes.
😠 The Consequences of Resentment Toward One's Father
The speaker delves into the concept of resentment towards one's father and its broader implications, including the potential for a 'mommy savior' complex and the creation of broken families. They critique Goggins for not reconciling with his father, suggesting that this lack of forgiveness positions him as a 'beta male.' The speaker also speculates on Goggins' personal life, suggesting that his relationships and family situation may be influenced by unresolved issues with his father.
🙏 Advice for Reconciliation and Personal Growth
In the final paragraph, the speaker offers unsolicited advice to Goggins, urging him to forgive his father and embrace the lessons learned from him. They advocate for a reframing of past experiences to see the positive influence of his father and suggest that this reconciliation could lead to personal growth. The speaker also encourages Goggins to be a good father himself, aligning with the broader message of embracing fatherhood and the importance of strong male role models.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Beta Male
💡Abuse
💡Masochism
💡Forgiveness
💡Fatherhood
💡Andrew Tate
💡Discipline
💡Reconciliation
💡Mommies' Savior Complex
💡God the Father
Highlights
David Goggins is described as a 'beta male' by the speaker, primarily due to his perceived lack of appreciation for his father's hard work and uniqueness.
The speaker bought David Goggins' audio book 'Can't Hurt Me' and was struck by the way Goggins talks about his father, whom he describes as abusive.
The speaker views Goggins' father as a strong, successful figure who overcame adversity, built a business, and provided for his family, characteristics that the speaker admires.
The speaker compares Goggins' father to Andrew Tate's father, suggesting they share similar qualities of strength and success.
The speaker criticizes the use of the term 'abuse', suggesting it is often misused to label men unfairly, and questions the extent of Goggins' father's abusiveness.
The speaker reflects on his own father's discipline, describing it as tough but not abusive, and how it shaped him into a strong man.
The speaker suggests that Goggins' self-punishment through extreme physical training is a form of masochism, possibly stemming from his father's discipline.
The speaker argues that Goggins' success and toughness are a direct result of his father's influence, despite Goggins' negative view of his father.
The speaker discusses the need for more discipline in parenting, suggesting that children today are too coddled and lack the resilience of past generations.
The speaker references a study that suggests children who experience some form of discipline have healthier relationships and are better adults.
The speaker criticizes Goggins for not reconciling with his father, suggesting this lack of forgiveness makes him a 'beta male'.
The speaker links a lack of reconciliation with one's father to a rejection of God the Father, suggesting a deeper spiritual issue.
The speaker speculates that Goggins may have a 'mommy savior' complex, which could be influencing his relationships and family life.
The speaker notes Goggins' multiple relationships and children, suggesting this could be indicative of a lack of commitment and a 'beta male' trait.
The speaker advises Goggins to forgive his father and open his heart to God the Father, as a way to heal and become a better man.
The speaker emphasizes the importance of being a good father and the impact it has on society, urging Goggins to be a positive role model.
The speaker concludes by encouraging all men to reconcile with their fathers and return to God the Father, as a path to becoming better fathers themselves.
Transcripts
David gogins is a beta male so today's
question comes from a viewer who simply
wants to know yo Elliot what are your
thoughts on David gogins so I found out
about David gogins probably around the
same time that most of you did probably
about 10 years ago and I didn't really
watch many of his videos or interviews
or anything like that until a friend of
mine said you really got to check out
this guy so instead I bought his book
his audio book uh can't hurt me I was
like that is a great title and he's on
the cover wearing a Navy uniform I was
like this is my guy then I started
listening to the book and I got to be
completely honest I don't
remember 90% of what's in that book but
one big pointer stuck out to me one big
fly in the soup stuck out to me one
big idea that has not left me in terms
of how I see David Goggins and that is
the way he talks about his
dad now he calls his dad abusive right
and there were some stories in the book
where his dad was pretty tough tough on
him and his brothers maybe his mom I
don't remember
specifically
but his dad to me sounded like a
gangster like a good gangster like a guy
who overcame adversity in his life
life built his own business a black man
building his own business at a time
where maybe it was a bit
tougher he's a good provider he provided
lots of abundance for David in his life
he was somewhat wealthy lived in a white
neighborhood right so not only does his
dad have a business but he's an upward
moving man so he's a wealthy man he's a
he's an upward moving man he sounded
like an alpha mail to me like he
wouldn't take [ __ ] from people he
carried a weapon you know he was willing
to do what it took to ascend to win to
be a leader to be a father to be a
businessman in all these ways that we
admire in people today in
fact learning about his father reminded
me of Andrew Tate he his dad sounds like
a 1970s Andrew tapate and as I'm
reflecting on this I imagine Andrew
Tate's dad is a lot like David gin's dad
minus the abuse and I go like this with
abuse because I don't remember any of
the really abusive stories I'm not
really sure how abusive he really was in
fact that word abuse is thrown around uh
in order to well destroy men right how
many of you
are divorced or know someone who's
divorced uh because their wife said
they're abusive I had this happen with
one of my friends or a guy that used to
come to my gym who is like a short
chubby funny guy who drank a little bit
too much and his wife wanted to divorce
him and said he was emotionally abusive
I know this guy and I know he's not
abusing you but they throw this word
around because well victimhood is seen
as a virtue in this day and I'm not
saying David I have a lot of really good
things to say about as I move move on
here but my
first instinct was this guy's a beta
male who doesn't appreciate the hard
work and the uniqueness of his dad like
I said his dad reminds me of an Andrew
Tate and Andrew Tate is a unique guy and
Andrew Tate's dad was probably a lot
like goin's Dad which is a lot like my
dad both of those guys all those guys
remind me of my dad my dad beat us when
I was a kid I would never say he abused
us but he he he headbutt me I'll always
remember that but I've never told that
story anything I say about my father is
I venerate my father I talk about how
when I was a beta male I resented my
father but if you if you want to hear
about all the abuse that I had yeah my
dad I remember one time my dad chased me
up the stairs got me in a corner and
headbutted me that was the most
humiliating beating I've gotten but that
was probably the last beating I got but
I got several beatings before that when
I was young my dad would terrorize us
when we didn't listen to him or his
mother or or our mother right I me and
my siblings joke about it now like
remember the like my dad would stand in
the doorway so that you couldn't go
anywhere and it was like he would and
then he would say if you want to go you
got to come this way and of course you
know you're going to get snatched right
you're going to get hit Ellis talks
about that a lot my younger brother my
younger brother got got it the worst
actually because he had a big mouth so
my dad would make his mouth bleed right
so I the point here is that I've never
complained about my dad I only venerate
my dad because it was my dad didn't make
me the kind of man that I am today where
I'm a tough guy and I beat myself up
with weights now let's talk quickly I
haven't out loud here but now I'm going
off
script
David you are the man that you are
because of your dad you do you get this
the beatings that your dad gave you when
you were younger were practiced for the
[ __ ] beatings that you give yourself
right now you are a masochist you beat
yourself who goes through all that kind
of military training I I know you've
been through like multiple military
trainings who subjects themselves to
that kind of beating but someone who
wants to get beat that's a crazy thing
about being a masochist and I know you
may or may not know what I'm talking
about but according to character
structure there are those of us who
hunkered down and beat ourselves up I
happen to be a lot like a masochist too
most people who get into extreme sports
like strongman powerlifting that extreme
[ __ ] that you do or David does when he's
running you got to be a masochist and
the only reason why you even know that
you could subject yourself to that kind
of beating and and and overcome that
kind of beating is because your dad beat
you in fact I I'm going to go out on a
limb here right now which is not that
much of a limb it's sort of
a it was always this way until recently
but like we need to beat our kids a
little bit more talking about abuse
right but that's such a fuzzy term right
now that it's like if you you know you
you just slap your kids sometimes they
need to be slapped sometimes they need
to be pinched I didn't do a lot of that
with my kids because I grew up in a beta
male world where they said that dads are
abusive and I remember my dad doing that
to me I can tell you think in retrospect
I wish I beat my kids a little bit
more but it all turned out well we need
to bring back the beatings imagine we
bring back the beatings boys wouldn't be
such beta
males we got a lot of single mothers
raising boys and there's no discipline
you had a father you had a father you
had a father you had a father a black
man had a father a wealthy father an
upward moving father a present father
they say that children that grow up in
homes where they're beaten have
healthier relationships with other
people and are healthier adults than
those who are completely
ignored I remember this because there
was a study uh that they did with the
children that were in I don't know
Kosovo or something Yugoslavia and I
remember watching this story when I was
a teenager where the children that were
left alone in the cribs were worse off
than the ones that were abused because
the ones that were abused they were
getting something they were they
interacting with someone there was
engagement there a father who beats your
whoops the child you know spare the rod
spoil the child right I don't know way
to say it but beating right get beating
that's that's emotion that's feeling
that's
love it's love to train might to train
your child my dad trains plants and in
order to train the plants right like he
he makes beautiful sculptures out of him
he's got to snip he's got to cut pieces
off anyway so this video is not about
the virtues of whooping your kid that's
not my point my point
is David Goggins is a beta male because
he rejects his father a little bit more
on what I discovered when I started
researching him so like I said you know
I may be talking about things that I
don't know about because I don't really
follow David not that I have anything
against him it's just not one of the
people I follow but I decided to do a
little bit of research before making
this video just to see you know if
anything's changed and I noticed that he
has a video with I think the guy's name
is Chris Williamson who um interviews
him and uh he David it sounds like he
made an attempt to reconcile with his
father he says he went and go he went to
go visit the demon he said you
know I get it that our parents imprint
some things on us that maybe we don't
want but it almost sounded like he
wasn't calling his masochism the demon
his needing to beat himself up the
demon and his resentment towards his
father the demon it sounded like he was
calling his dad the demon he was like I
had to go confront the demon like the
demon is on the inside of you
David and that's not a bad thing God
gives us unique demons to bring our best
out and your best is out because your
dad beat you you wouldn't be David
goggin so that very demon that you
confronted is the demon of your
salvation you are who you are because
God allowed you to battle that demon if
you didn't battle that demon you
wouldn't be the David gogins that we
know you'd still be that fat guy or that
guy that or or a guy that wouldn't
subject himself to that kind of fight
against the demon that that demon is
your deliverance my man
but anyway back to the father situation
so he goes and he visits the demon and
the conversation he has with Williamson
does not sound like reconciliation it
sounds like curiosity it sounds like I
had to go see this guy because I want to
know why I'm the way I
am again I don't know how bad the
relationship was but it does not sound
like a Reconciliation it doesn't sound
like forgiveness that's what I'm saying
it's not like you forgive your dad now
here's here's a problem with this here's
why David gogins is a beta male
he doesn't forgive his father so there's
no reconciliation there the father is
representative of the father in the home
is representative of God the
Father not only do you have an animosity
towards your father in most cases when
you reject your father but you reject
God the Father not many most atheistic
type people don't have good
relationships with their fathers and
that's that's by Design enemies of our
of our culture and our world want to
destroy the face of the Father God the
Father father in the home and destroy
the
family so you're beta male because
you're because you don't have any
reconciliation meaning forgiveness of
your father he wasn't perfect I'm not
perfect my father wasn't perfect no
fathers are perfect and that kind of
atonement would allow you to actually
not confront the demon but allow that
demon allow that wound to become a womb
to really acknowledge that your birth as
a an amazing man that you are is because
of that wound so don't confront the
demon like befriend the demon I don't
know how else to say that but
transmutate that see it for what it is
but you're a beta male as long as you
hold that resentment towards your father
and that and not being able to see the
things that I'm talking about that's
number one number two a lot of times
associated with this type of experience
is a mommy savior complex again I don't
remember the book completely but I know
that you probably
have disordered emotional attachments to
Mommy this is what happens in this
culture when there's a resentment of the
father it then becomes now I need to
save my mother and that's why we have a
culture of Mommy's
boys mommy savior [ __ ] you got and the
that mommy savior [ __ ] here's more beta
male that mommy savior [ __ ] I don't know
if it's true or not but I see it
manifesting itself in the fact that
David goggin has multiple women with
multiple
children and I very rarely or I again I
don't watch him too much but I don't see
him out there trying to be a good dad
trying to be a good
father the multiple women I have a child
with this one I have a child with that
one that's a beta male thing it's a beta
male thing in that especially in our
world today I'm not talking about
polygamy but in our world today
generally speaking most of us are going
to be with a person there's a
person and if you choose a person based
on your traumas meaning she reminds me
of mama that's not going to work cuz
she'll resent you and I don't know how
those relationships broke up I'm
thinking about your first child and this
is Wikipedia [ __ ] so you know maybe you
spoke about this or he spoke about this
that first relationship I don't know
what happened there but I'm sure that it
has something to
do with that woman not needing you you
needing her he needing her neediness I
want to save you right and then of
course you I don't want to go too far
down that rabbit hole then there's the
other woman I think he was once married
and then that was broke up also and you
know so mommy savior uh complex not
really a father figure you broken f he's
broken family he's from a broken family
has perhaps a broken relationship with
God the father and is creating broken
broken families right and that doesn't
mean I'm not saying that David Goin is a
bad guy I I I when I do see him I see a
lot of heart right like my when I I the
way I feel him when I watch him because
I think that's why a lot of people enjoy
him is that big heart it just seems like
he got a big heart like you know a lot
of Courage a lot of strength right but
once again
at what expense is it because you're
still fighting against your dad or can
you transmutate and lift
up venerate your father and God the
father and
fatherhood and be a good father all
right I don't know these things only
seem like they're happening but if there
was going to be
some advice that I give let me start
wrapping this up you know I know I know
David gogin is not asking me for advice
and I also saw I see like headlines you
know video titles and stuff doesn't mean
I click them there was one that where he
says I love the hate of course you love
the hate because you love being beat
bro he says I love the hate I love when
people hate me that's that's the sign of
someone who invites beatings right I'm
not it's I know they're all the
feminists and you know victim people out
there are going to be like oh Elliot
Hull said that David goggin deserved to
be beat because he wanted to that's not
what I'm saying that's not what I'm
saying I'm not saying you wanted to get
beat but you sure subject yourself to a
lot of pain out there
bro so this is not hate at all not he it
at all in fact like I said I feel his
heart like I have compassion towards the
guy not like a compassion like uh like
I'm trying to save him you don't need
anybody to save him in fact masacus
don't want advice from anybody we we'll
resist to the death like you giving me
advice that's when I go like
this I'm not listening right so I know
you're not listening to me I'm just
making content making videos here and
[ __ ] so well I'm GNA give some advice to
David David gogin David gogin asked me
for some advice what kind of advice
would I give David gogins number one
forgive your father you got to forgive
your father you got to
truly so Neville Goddard puts it this
way he says forgiveness is not just
letting go and forgetting or even
feeling good about what the person did
it's literally
replaying your experience with that
person in your mind in your imagination
in a more resourceful
way you could do that totally in your
imagination and just imagine your dad is
the man that you want him to be or you
could reframe your experience with your
father and see what I saw when I read
your book I don't know I wasn't in your
situation but I saw damn this guy's a
pretty cool dude he's a g so forgiveness
is about is is about reconciling in your
mind by playing a brand new picture or
using a brand new paradigm and I think
that might be a good idea doc Goggins so
that's number one open your heart to
your father when you open your heart to
your father I would also invite you to
open your heart to God the Father too
because all of our fathers are fallen
and there's only one perfect pattern
paternity and that is God the father
right and we can open ourselves up to
that perfect pattern and that perfect
example of God in Christ who lives in
you you're the strongest version of
yourself all around you are that's alpha
male right there at its finest father
father father father that's that's what
an alpha male is Father father father
father got all these beta males walking
around acting like they're Alpha and
they don't even have any children you
don't get to be Alpha until you start
breeding bro but anyway so open yourself
up to God father and be a good father
Goggins I don't know what your
relationship is like with your children
I have no idea but you but you you're
boning and leaving you have illegitimate
children that's not a good that's not a
good look for a man who claims to want
to see men live better
lives
and it doesn't support the cause of
restored
fatherhood right so I of course I you
can't do anything about it now but yeah
be a good father to the best that you
can and you'll be a example to the world
that hates the father this world hates
fathers we don't need any more bad
fathers please goggin and those who are
in the
front and then
ultimately that leads
us to all all men who are impressed by a
guy like
Goggins being raised
up reconciling truly reconciling with
their wounds that they have with their
Earthly father
and returning to God the father and
being good [ __ ] fathers done
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