High power ultraviolet LED experiments

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25 Jan 202415:23

Summary

TLDRThe script describes experiments conducted with a high-power 395nm purple LED purchased for UV curing applications. Various capacitors are placed in series with the LED to observe the effect on light output and power. Initial power is 45W. A 100nF capacitor drops this to 0.6W with visibly dim output. Larger capacitors proportionally increase brightness and power, up to 5.9W with 1μF. Motor run capacitors of 2mF and 4mF further limit power to 11.5W and 23W respectively while maintaining useful brightness, potentially increasing LED life by reducing heat.

Takeaways

  • 😀 The video covers experiments on controlling the brightness of a 395nm purple LED using capacitors
  • 😎 The goal is to reduce LED power to extend its life while still emitting useful UV light
  • 💡 The stock LED draws 45W at full power
  • 🔋 Adding a 100nF capacitor drops power to 0.6W
  • 🔋 A 220nF capacitor allows 1.3W, and 330nF allows 1.9W
  • 🔋 Larger capacitors continue to increase power, with 1μF yielding 5.9W
  • 🤔 Motor run capacitors allow even more control of LED power and light output
  • ⚡ A 2mF motor capacitor runs the LED at 11.5W
  • ⚡ A 4mF capacitor runs it at 24W, halving the stock power
  • 💡 The experiments show capacitors can easily control LED power and life versus output

Q & A

  • What type of LED is being experimented with?

    -A 395nm wavelength (deep violet) high power 50 watt UV LED module intended for 3D printer resin curing.

  • How is the LED module powered and current regulated?

    -It uses a mosfet and l1015 chip to regulate drive current instead of multiple linear current regulator chips.

  • Why use flip chip LEDs in the module?

    -Flip chip LEDs connect directly to pads on the surface so don't need wire bonds, allowing for compact size.

  • What capacitance values were tested in series?

    -100nF, 220nF, 330nF, 470nF, 1μF, 2μF and 4μF motor run capacitors.

  • How did adding capacitors in series impact brightness and power?

    -Increasing capacitance increased brightness and power up to about half rating, extending LED life by reducing drive level.

  • What was the no-load power draw of the LED module?

    -45 watts initially with no series capacitors.

  • What safety precautions were taken?

    -Wearing insulating gloves when handling powered connections.

  • How can the capacitors be safely discharged after testing?

    -By shorting leads with insulated handles and checking voltage decays to safe level.

  • What benefits did the testing show?

    -That LED brightness and power can be easily adjusted for specific applications by adding series capacitors.

  • What ideas did the experiments give for future work?

    -Building the LED and capacitors into a case to make a adjustable output UV curing light.

Outlines

00:00

😮 Experimenting with a high-power purple LED

The first paragraph describes obtaining a 50W 395nm purple LED and performing initial experiments. Power measurements are taken with no capacitor, then with capacitors from 100nF to 1μF in series to reduce brightness and power for LED longevity while maintaining some useful output.

05:00

👷‍♂️ Further reducing LED power with larger capacitors

The second paragraph continues the experiments using even larger capacitors salvaged from motors. A 2mF capacitor reduces power to 11.5W. A 4mF capacitor cuts the power in half to around 24W, which is still a useful brightness but will greatly extend the LED lifespan.

10:03

💡 Using capacitors to tame LEDs simply for longevity

The third paragraph concludes that series capacitors provide a simple way to tame down high-power LEDs to improve lifespan while maintaining decent brightness. Interest is expressed in further developing this into an enclosure to test long term usage.

15:05

😊 Brief closing statement

The fourth paragraph provides a brief closing statement summarizing that series capacitors can prolong the life of an ultraviolet or white high-power LED in a simple way.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Purple LED

The video focuses on experiments with a high-power 395nm purple LED, likely intended for 3D printer resin curing. This specific color LED is key as its output is very close to ultraviolet wavelengths useful for curing.

💡Linear current regulation

Unlike similar LEDs that use parallel current regulator chips, this LED uses a MOSFET driven by an unknown chip (possibly L1015 or 358K10) for linear current regulation to achieve consistent LED brightness.

💡Flip chips

The LED uses flip chip bonding where the LED die are directly soldered to pads on the circuit board with no bonding wires. Allows for very compact LED assembly.

💡Capacitors in series

A key experiment in the video is placing different capacitors in series with the LEDs to limit current, tame the brightness and possibly extend LED life by underpowering.

💡Power output

Throughout the experiments, the wattage output of the LED assembly is measured when using capacitors ranging from 100nF to 4mF. Allows determining optimal capacitance for output.

💡Discharge resistors

Safety concern mentioned about whether the capacitors have internal discharge resistors to avoid shock risk after being powered.

💡Motor run capacitors

Higher capacitance motor start/run capacitors pulled from appliances are tested in series as well to further limit current.

💡Ultraviolet effect

Even when powered below the rated 50W with added capacitors, the video shows there is still a clear glow showing the purple LEDs can emit noticeable UV.

💡Prolong LED life

Primary motivation for the experiments is determining simple ways to lower the LED drive power that will likely extend the usable lifespan of the LED components.

💡LED fixtures

The video speculates these specific purple LED assemblies may be intended as drop-in replacements for existing LED fixtures, thanks to matching size and mounting.

Highlights

Experiments with a 395nm purple LED to see effect of adding capacitors in series

45W power consumption with no capacitor

0.6W with 100nF capacitor

1.3W with 220nF capacitor

1.9W with 330nF capacitor

2.7W with 470nF capacitor

5.9W with 1μF capacitor

11.5W with 2μF motor run capacitor

24W with 4μF motor run capacitor, effectively half the LED's original power

LED chips placed directly onto PCB without wire bonds

Constant current regulation done with MOSFET instead of linear regulator ICs

Taming down LED power extends lifetime significantly

Interesting simple way to reduce LED power using common motor run capacitors

Should add capacitor inside LED fixture for clean integration

Useful experiments to characterize LED behavior with different capacitors

Transcripts

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I have a purple LED let's experiment

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shall we and do lots of experiments with

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it so this came from

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AliExpress it is branded yxo Yuen now

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220 volt 50 wat it's probably going to

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be available in lower voles as well high

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power UV purple LED 395 NM for basically

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for printer curing this 3D resin

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curing and I get the feel out this is

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sold for getting existing uh 50 W LED

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fixtures and basically taking the

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original white LED out and putting in

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the ultraviolet one instead and the

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ultraviolet one will I say ultraviolet

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it's deep violet at 5 395 NM H it um is

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probably just the beer chips that nor be

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used to excite warm white phosphor but

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it's a nice color very nice color that's

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one of the reasons I got it now if we

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take a closer look at the

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chip and I'll Zoom down

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this

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if we take a closer look at that we can

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see the incoming power here we've got a

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metal oxide veror we've got a brid re

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fire we've got the LEDs wir as a large

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series string of parallel pairs that

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basic down here go up again down here go

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up and just zigzag all the way until

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they get to the end but unlike other uh

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high power LEDs that have the simple

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rectifier and then they've got loads of

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linear current regulator chips stacked

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in parallel this one has a mosfet a 4

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n65 a 4K and it's driven by the very

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mysterious l1015 or 358 K10 and this

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chip is doing the linear current

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regulation with a high power mosfet so

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you set the current sensing presumably

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with a couple of resistors under here uh

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and it will then regulate the power

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through the LEDs I wonder why they're

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doing

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that um I was going to dig this out but

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I thought I'll just rack it if for do

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that let's do the experiments first if

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we take a closer look at the chip though

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we can see that it uses uh the flip

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chips flip chips are LEDs that don't

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have the wire Bonds on them going to the

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adjacent pads they literally have tiny

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little bare copper pads with the a blob

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of solder in each and then they place

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the chips onto the sort of the soda

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paste and it's the bare LED chip itself

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no case that just the bare chip

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literally flows on like a component

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they're tiny I wonder how they get it so

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accurate or maybe that is why they've

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got these large areas to reduce accuracy

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because the chip will kind of Lan itself

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as it melts anyway what I'm going to do

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is I am going to bring in the

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LED and I'm also going to bring in a

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notepad because I have some capacitors

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to put in seies with this let's Zoom

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back out again a bit cuz I'm going to be

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bringing the

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anti here is the

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anti and we'll hook it up to this and uh

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since I'm going to be picking this up

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and pointing at things I'm going to put

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a pair of gloves on as an electrical

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safety measure rare but true so first of

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all I'm going to start by sticking these

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wires in here they're just push in

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should push in they are pushing in and

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if you want to release them you uh use a

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gently rounded item and you push down in

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these while pulling the wire gently and

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it should just pop out so if I pop this

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in here we're going to be swamped with

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ultrav well near Ultra out light very

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shortly I'm going to stuff those in

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there but I am going to put the gloves

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on just generic plastic dipped gloves

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because uh when you're working with

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electricity it helps to just have an

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extra layer of protection personally I

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don't feel I need to at this bench

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during this experiment but I'm going to

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do it because I feel it is important to

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demonstrate and also I would normally

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recommend that the heat sinks these are

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mounted on actually have um a ground on

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them because these uh circuits are a

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tiny thin shim of fiberglass the tip of

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the finger is missing just for the touch

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pad boop boop boop just to get you know

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stuff done uh other things worth noting

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this is a solid state relay heat sink

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it's just one that I had to hand and the

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holes on it for the solid state really

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are exactly identical for the diagonal

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spacing of the LED that's very handy

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right to what it's about to get very

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piple and I shall plug this in it's very

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purple I'm going to Shield myself now

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look how purple it is it's Mega purple

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and it

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says everything's lit up in the fac I've

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got a hat here just basically to uh to

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test it with and it's just basically

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it's it's making everything glow I don't

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want to look directly into that too much

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um I can also feel the heat from it uh

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89 power factor 44.9 wat so let's say 45

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wats and we'll fill in the first value

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45 watts and then we'll put LEDs in the

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series and see what we get that does not

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look bright looking at it I'm going to

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point it over there oh that is making

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everything in the room glow yes that is

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very bright right tell you what I'm ping

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off

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now and then we'll put the first

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capacitor in line and this is going to

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be a 100 Nar capacitor I zoomed right

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out here I shall zoom out a little bit

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more

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so technically speaking this is live and

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that's neutral so tell you what I'll put

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them in the correct slot just for the

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picky people actually I'll put this one

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in here and I'll put a capacitor in

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series let's dig out the capacitors I've

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marked them all up a very small 100

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nanard capacitor I'm going to put this

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one

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um into a

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Chinese clone wigo style connector

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straighten that wire up shove it in

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there click it down put it into the 100

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Nano

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capacitor what do you reckon the power

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is going to be from this with 100

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nanopar in line with

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it are we

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ready let's power up it's very dim I

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mean it's not bright at all it

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says 6 watt5 power factor uh 0.6 wat

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that's really very low still useful hold

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on I'm just going to do a scientific

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test to going to turn the light off I'm

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going to take the exposure

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off I'm going to get the baseball cap

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and I'm going to point this at it you

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know it's not bad you know for for about

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half a watt that's really not bad is it

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okay tell you what I'm going to pause a

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moment Charlie while I bring the light

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back so you're about to get dazzled the

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light one moment

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please the light is back uh let's unplug

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this let's discharge that capacitor so I

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didn't get a little tingle off itth what

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have I got to discharge that with hold

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on just give give us a second do I have

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a there's a screwdriver there's a uh

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security

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screwdriver not much of a spark off that

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good having said that uh it's intill in

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circuit with this so that LA to like a

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discharge

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resistor and I've disconnected the wrong

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thing anyway so let's put that wire in

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there and we'll stick the 220 n f in I

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would expect that to be round about one

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watt

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perhaps so

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here is a 220 n f

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capacitor we'll pop that in

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here this is kind of just really

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experimenting to see what sort of power

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levels you could get you know if you

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wanted to just tame it down a bit

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because under running these LEDs

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significantly like say running at 10

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wats instead of the 50 wats it's going

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to make it last for ages but still put

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out a useful amount of energy 220 nart

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it's visibly brighter already it's 1 to

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7 do we say 1.3 let's say

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1.3 watt per factor5 again okay because

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there is the capacitor limiting it and

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again I don't think I even need to

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um you can see the flicker there because

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it is basically it's not smooth but I

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can't see the flicker but it's put out a

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decent amount it's actually doing yeah

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that's actually not bad one what's

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surprisingly good for that deep violet a

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good ultraviolet effect but not Mega

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let's unplug

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it next

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capacitor is going to

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be I think this will be self-

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discharging actually you know what let's

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just uh shun it

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anyway it's self- discharging that's

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fine

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um but I'll I'll play sa and discharge

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them anyway let's put the 330 Nano this

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is a huge 330 Nano for

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capacitor

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this is where if your board just

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watching me do this you could just

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basically jump to the end and see the

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results it's your call 330 n looking a

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lot brighter it's now let's say

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1.9 5 I'd say that's close to 1.9 watt

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okay 1.9 Watts it is could just say 2

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Watts I'm going to say 1.9 wats and that

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is going to be very visibly bright yeah

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I can see it glowing even in the studio

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lighting I can see where you can see the

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Shimmer off it just at the side that's

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very good

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unplug unleash capacitor shunt capacitor

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anyway and we're on to 470 nard

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now which is an unusually small

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capacitor just depends on the

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manufacturer and construction the Varian

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size quite a lot uh 47 n farad brighter

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again looking pretty good in the making

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this pop this hat it's very

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visible

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uh 2.7

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Watts okay and then actually I'm just

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going to unplug this like this right

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just to show you that it does hold a

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charge if you

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don't and it just made a mockery of Me

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by not making a l crack noise oh okay I

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just plug unplugged it at the zero

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crossing point then

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excellent to try dabbing that across

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let's go to uh let's plug unplug this

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this time and let's go to one microfi

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this time which I would expect to be

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about 5 wats then based on what we've

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done so

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far so let's plug it in at that I might

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even parallel two

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up very that's actually making the hot

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light off camera that's pretty good

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um it's 6 wats 5 well 5.9 let's call it

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5.9 Watts so actually it doesn't take to

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much capacitance I'd kind of like to get

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a 2.2 megard capacitor wonder if I've

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got one H I shall go and look for that

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one moment

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please I did not find the capacitors I

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was looking for but I did find some

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motor uh run capacitors let's cut these

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open let's rip them over and pop them

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out these are from CPC in the UK and

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this one is rated 4 microfi which would

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be

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about 4 microfi should be about 24 wat

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shouldn't it theoretically at this rate

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could this be an interesting way to tame

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them down just use motor capacitors and

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this one is 2 Mard so it's going to tame

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it down to about 12 wats theoretically

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let's find

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out I wonder if these have a discharge

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resistor I don't think they've got a

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discharge resistor and this is uh Shady

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cuz these will deliver quite a bang Okie

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doie I shall test that so I shall get a

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bit of wire here this will

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do and I shall get this

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wi and hook it around one terminal like

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this just temporary

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connection and the other wire shall be

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hooked around the terminal

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like this again a temperary

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connection and let's see what happens if

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I stuff this into this terminal here and

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plug it in what are we going to guess so

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this is 2 Mard motor

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capacitor what you Reon is it going to

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be 12 wats let's find

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out the power is

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11.5 wat

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11.5 wats that is actually starting to

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get a very useful level of ultra violet

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while also extend the life and you could

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fit this capacitor in the case now to

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test this if this has a discharge

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capacitor resistor should I say I'm

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going to short it out but I'm going to

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uh basically just disconnect it from

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here first do not do what I am doing and

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that should have left a charge on if

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there is a hold on there was a bit of a

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pop there not

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much I shall test it I I'll make a note

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Down Below in the description if there

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is h a discharge resistor in these I'll

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disconnect them and just see the voltage

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goes down at a modest rate so let's get

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the next connect C

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on so this is the four micard and that

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is theoretically going to run the LED

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somewhere around kind of half its rating

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that' be quite

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useful and these motor capacitors are

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very common and you don't have to worry

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about them going short circuit cuz the

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worst case happening uh if they went

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short circuit is the LED would just go

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up to full brightness so I should pop

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this in here place your bats what's it

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going to be with for Mard very bright

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it's going to be that's really making

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everything light now and it's 23 Watts

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so that's effectively rendered it 4

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microfarad I'm shiing my aate here equal

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uh let's say 20 it's 23.7 let's say 24

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wats that's

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interesting uh that's going to half the

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power dissipation from this led oh I

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didn't check the power factor hold on

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let me just check that fiveish 58 yeah

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that's what I'd

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expect so all worth doing those

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experiments they were interesting I

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should just discharge

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capacitor it should have been discharged

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because of the uh it was in circuit with

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that but there we have it uh the ultrav

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Viet LED dubing it with capacitors here

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are the end

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results very easy to tame it down and in

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a suitable fixture uh that would just be

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a great way of getting a long lasting

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LED that still put out fairly decent

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power but the LED chips would last a lot

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longer so that was a that was a good

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experiment that was well worth doing

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kind of want to build that into a case

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now with the uh with an actual capacitor

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just to see how that uh how that works

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but there we have it uh dub being an

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UltraViolet or a white LED just for

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prolonging LED life in a very simple

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way

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