Shotgun slug comparison using the Benelli Supernova Tactical
Summary
TLDRIn this engaging video, Dr. Drake 63 explores the performance of three distinct non-sabot shotgun slugs: the Federal, Remington Slugger, and Winchester, all 12-gauge and designed for smooth barrel shotguns. Using a new Benelli Supernova shotgun, he tests these slugs for their muzzle velocity and ballistics. The Federal slug, weighing 1.25 ounces and traveling at 1600 feet per second, is compared with the 1-ounce Remington and Winchester slugs, both at 1760 feet per second. Despite similar specifications, the Winchester slug surprisingly produced the most recoil, while the Remington Slugger was the most manageable. The video also discusses the impact of recoil on shooting experience, particularly with semi-automatic versus pump-action shotguns. Dr. Drake 63 emphasizes the importance of practice and the use of recoil pads to mitigate the force of heavy slugs. He concludes by encouraging viewers to support the National Shooting Sports Foundation and to exercise their right to vote.
Takeaways
- 📚 Dr. Drake's 63 discusses testing three different non-sabot shotgun slugs: Federal, Remington Slugger, and Winchester.
- 🎯 All three slugs are 12-gauge, 3-inch shells with a 1-ounce rifled projectile, designed for smooth barreled shotguns.
- 🚀 The Federal slug has a muzzle velocity of 1600 feet per second, while the Remington and Winchester slugs both have a velocity of 1760 feet per second.
- 🔍 Dr. Drake uses a Benelli Supernova, a 12-gauge shotgun capable of handling 3.5-inch shells, for testing the slugs.
- ⚙️ The Benelli Supernova is a semi-automatic shotgun with a recoil-absorbing mechanism, which reduces felt recoil compared to pump-action or bolt-action firearms.
- 📊 Despite similar ballistics on paper, the Winchester slug felt the hardest to shoot, while the Remington Slugger was the easiest to control.
- 🔩 Recoil management is crucial when shooting shotgun slugs, especially with non-automatic shotguns, as there's no recoil-absorbing mechanism to reduce the impact.
- 🤔 Dr. Drake admits not being an expert in slug shooting with shotguns and found the experience instructive.
- 🏹 The range for testing was limited to 50 yards, which is suitable for the intended use of shotgun slugs for hunting or self-defense at close to medium ranges.
- 🧍♂️ Applying back pressure on the grip can help mitigate felt recoil, which Dr. Drake learned to do better over the course of shooting.
- 🌟 Dr. Drake expresses interest in semi-automatic shotguns like the Benelli M3 and M4 for easier shooting with heavier loads, but notes their higher cost.
- ✅ The video concludes with a reminder to support the National Shooting Sports Foundation and to vote to protect the rights of gun owners.
Q & A
What is the purpose of the rifled grooves on the shotgun slugs discussed in the script?
-The rifled grooves on the shotgun slugs are designed to stabilize the slug as it travels down the smooth barrel of the shotgun. These grooves are supposed to have a similar stabilizing effect as those found in a rifle barrel.
What are the three shotgun slugs tested in the script?
-The three shotgun slugs tested are the Federal three-inch, the Remington Slugger three-inch Magnum, and the Winchester 12-gauge three-inch shell. All are 1 ounce rifled slugs.
What is the muzzle velocity of the Federal shotgun slug?
-The muzzle velocity of the Federal shotgun slug is 1600 feet per second.
How does the recoil of a semi-automatic shotgun differ from that of a pump-action or bolt-action shotgun?
-A semi-automatic shotgun has a recoil-absorbing mechanism, typically a large spring, which reduces the felt recoil when firing. In contrast, pump-action and bolt-action shotguns do not have such mechanisms, so the recoil is felt more directly by the shooter.
What is the weight in grains of the 12-gauge shotgun slugs discussed in the script?
-The Federal slug weighs 551 grains, while the Remington Slugger and Winchester slugs, which have identical statistics, weigh 441 grains each.
What is the significance of Newton's third law in relation to the recoil experienced when shooting a shotgun?
-Newton's third law states that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. When firing a shotgun, the force from the shell drives the gun back, and this recoil is felt by the shooter. Semi-automatic shotguns have mechanisms to absorb some of this recoil, reducing the force felt by the shooter.
Why did the Winchester slug kick the hardest out of the three tested, according to the script?
-The exact reason is not clear from the script, as the Winchester slug and the Remington Slugger had identical statistics on paper. However, the Winchester slug did kick the hardest, which was unexpected for the shooter.
What is the recommended maximum effective range for the shotgun slugs tested in the script?
-The shotgun slugs tested are most effective under 100 yards, and for smoothbore rifled slugs, the realistic effective range is more like 50 yards or less.
What is the advantage of shooting two and three-quarter inch slugs over three-inch slugs?
-Two and three-quarter inch slugs are not as powerful as three-inch slugs, which makes them easier on the shooter's shoulder and suitable for situations where the recoil is a concern, especially during extended shooting sessions.
What type of shotgun was used in the script for testing the slugs?
-A Benelli Supernova, a 12-gauge shotgun capable of accommodating up to a three and a half inch shell, was used. This is a tactical version with a short barrel compared to a standard shotgun.
What is the shooter's primary purpose for using the Benelli Supernova shotgun?
-The primary purpose for using the Benelli Supernova shotgun, as mentioned in the script, is for self-defense and home defense, as well as for the 'cool factor' associated with the firearm.
Why does the shooter recommend shooting with a padded grip to help mitigate recoil?
-The shooter recommends using a padded grip because it can help to absorb some of the recoil, reducing the impact on the shooter's shoulder and making the shooting experience more comfortable.
Outlines
🚀 Introduction to Shotgun Slug Testing
Dr. Drake introduces the video by stating his intention to test three different non-sabot shotgun slugs designed for smooth barreled shotguns. He outlines the specifics of each slug: the Federal three-inch with a 16 hundred feet per second muzzle velocity, the Remington Slugger three-inch Magnum at 1760 feet per second, and the Winchester with identical stats to the Remington. The testing will be conducted using a Benelli Supernova, a 12-gauge shotgun capable of firing three and a half inch shells. The doctor also discusses the differences in recoil between semi-automatic and pump-action shotguns, highlighting the recoil management features of the Benelli Supernova.
🎯 Recoil Experience and Slug Comparison
Dr. Drake shares his personal recoil experience when shooting the slugs from a non-semi-automatic shotgun. He explains the physics behind recoil and how semi-automatic shotguns, like the Benelli Supernova, utilize a recoil spring to absorb much of the recoil force, reducing the felt recoil. He then details his testing process, noting that the Winchester slug had the strongest kick, followed by the Federal, with the Remington Slugger being the most manageable despite having similar ballistics to the Winchester. The doctor also mentions his proficiency with shotguns and the challenges he faced in shooting slugs, particularly the heavier 3-inch varieties.
📈 Slug Performance and Adjustments
The video script describes the testing process of the shotgun slugs at a distance of 50 yards, which is considered an effective range for these types of ammunition. Dr. Drake discusses the need for adjustments to the shotgun's sights to compensate for the slugs' trajectories and his process of getting accustomed to the recoil. He provides a detailed account of the performance of each slug brand, noting that the Winchester initially grouped to the right, the Federal consistently shot high, and the Remington provided the best groups. He emphasizes the importance of not anticipating recoil and the learning curve associated with shooting slugs from a shotgun.
🌟 Conclusion and Future Plans
Dr. Drake concludes the video with his thoughts on the shotgun and its use for self-defense and the 'cool factor.' He acknowledges the significant recoil associated with shooting 3-inch slugs from the Benelli Supernova but also appreciates the experience. He recommends shooting two and three-quarter inch slugs for those who plan to do a lot of shooting to reduce shoulder strain. The doctor expresses his interest in other models of shotguns, such as the Benelli M3 and M4, which are semi-automatic and would be easier to handle with heavier loads. He encourages viewers to support the National Rifle Association and to vote, emphasizing the importance of maintaining the right to bear arms for current and future generations.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Shotgun Slugs
💡Rifled Slugs
💡Muzzle Velocity
💡Benelli Supernova
💡Recoil
💡Federal, Remington Slugger, Winchester
💡Newton's Third Law
💡Semi-Automatic Shotgun
💡Indoor Range
💡Self-Defense
💡NASS Rifle Association
Highlights
Dr. Drake's 63 tests three different non-sabot shotgun slugs: Federal, Remington Slugger, and Winchester.
All slugs are rifled and meant for smooth barreled shotguns, with the Federal having a slightly slower muzzle velocity.
The Winchester and Remington slugs boast identical ballistics statistics.
Drake uses a Benelli Supernova, a 12-gauge shotgun capable of handling 3.5 inch shells.
The Benelli Supernova is a tactical version with a short barrel and is semi-automatic.
The recoil of the shotgun is significantly felt due to the manual operation, unlike semi-automatic firearms.
The Winchester slug was perceived to have the most recoil, followed by the Federal, with the Remington Slugger being the easiest to shoot.
Drake discusses the difference in felt recoil between semi-automatic shotguns and pump-action or bolt-action firearms.
The weight of the slugs is compared to a 7.62x51 NATO round (.308 caliber) bullet.
The recoil spring in semi-automatic shotguns absorbs much of the shock, reducing felt recoil.
Drake emphasizes the importance of not anticipating recoil when shooting to maintain accuracy.
All three slugs were tested at 50 yards, a distance suitable for their effective performance.
The function of the gun was good, but the shooter had to adjust to the recoil and get used to the trigger.
The Federal slugs sailed high, requiring adjustments to the sight for better accuracy.
The Remington Slugger produced good groups at 50 yards with less windage issue.
Drake recommends shooting 2.75 inch slugs for those who plan on doing a lot of shooting to reduce recoil impact.
The video concludes with a discussion on the importance of firearm evaluation and the continued learning process with different types of firearms.
Drake expresses interest in the Benelli M3 and M4 models, which are semi-automatic and would be easier to shoot with heavier loads.
The video ends with a call to support the National Rifle Association and to exercise voting rights to protect gun ownership rights.
Transcripts
well hi everybody its dr drake's 63 here
today we're going to talk a little bit
about testing out three different
shotgun slugs of the non sabot variety
these are rifled meant to be smooth a
shout out of a smooth barreled shotgun
12-gauge we're going to take a look at
the federal which is a three inch one in
the quarter rounds muzzle velocity of
sixteen hundred feet per second we're
gonna look at the Remington Slugger
three inch Magnum that's also a 1 ounce
projectile and that goes at a cool 1760
feet per second to see what's going on
with the ballistics there and last but
not least we're gonna look at the
Winchester 12-gauge also a three inch
shell also all a 1 ounce rifled slug
that's what it looks like
and that's also going in 1760 feet per
second so the Winchester Dan the
remington boasts the same statistics
this federal a little bit heavier and
it's going a little bit slower
all three inch slugs and we're shooting
them out of a new shotgun we just picked
up this last week this is the Benelli
supernova this is a 12-gauge shotgun
that can accommodate up to a three and a
half inch shell and this is a tactical
version so it has a short barrel
compared compared to say a standard
shotgun you see in the back this is a
semi-auto in the back and if we want to
line up the receivers and get an idea
quite a bit more barrel on this CZ
that's a semiautomatic shotgun like i
said and there's a big difference when
you start talking about taking lengths
off the barrel of a 12-gauge shotgun and
at a pump versus a semi and what kind of
recoil you get and we'll visit that in a
little bit but first we're gonna talk
about these three shells just a bit so
looking at the three of these cartridges
this is the federal and it's a rifled
slug which means that I'm gonna borrow
Winchester's picture here for a second
you can see that there are grooves cut
into the side and it has a hollowed
point okay so it's going down a smooth
barrel but those rifle grooves
supposedly help stabilize it and have
the same effect that a rifle would and
you can see these are the same size
here's the Slugger magnum okay and same
thing now this is one ounce this is one
and a quarter and then the Winchester
they've got their nice little logo
stamped down on it and as we talked
about earlier identical on paper
statistics to the slugger
from Remington okay now what you're
looking at here is 7 62 by 51 NATO round
also known as 308 this bullet here
weighs 150 grains I'll do some some
quick math for you what does this mean
it means this one and a quarter ounce
slug weighs 551 grains okay 551 at a
pretty dang large caliber bore versus a
hundred and 50 grains here these two
with the 1 ounce are 441 grains 441
grains flying out of a shotgun and at a
velocity at 700 our 1700 plus feet per
second almost 1,800 and here's the big
difference this is this is a magazine
that would work in an ar-10 this
particular one go
the Galil which is an Israeli a cake
type design it's got a big robust spring
that that is part of the operating
mechanism that cycles the next round so
it absorbs a lot of that shock if you
look at this firearm right here this
semiautomatic shotgun the gases operate
in such a way is that it pushes a big
spring back so as you can see there's
this big hunk and spring right here that
the gases go in this port and force back
for the next round it's kind of hard for
me to do one-handed but you can see how
this moves okay so if you fire a three
inch round something with with with
heavy ballistics like one of these
three-inch lead slugs this spring is
gonna absorb a lot of that recoil so
just to remember for everybody for
Newton's third law for every action
there is an equal and opposite reaction
so when all a force from one of these
big old honkin shells drives this spring
back reloads the next shell and a
semiautomatic shotgun or in the case of
in the case of a bullet it absorbs a lot
of that so you don't get a lot of felt
recoil however when you're shooting a
pump-action action shotgun or a bolt
bolt-action rifle for example you're
gonna get it all because there's no
place for it to go you this is a
manually cycle there's no mainspring
there's no recoil spring there's nothing
so that's kind of why I get a kick when
I hear guys talk about oh you know lots
of recoil on an AR or any recoil on an
AR are talking about recoil with their
seven 62 by 39 ak's if you hear somebody
talking about recoil with one of those
firearms that's a real good hint that
they have very little experience firing
firing guns because those guns don't
contain any kind of recall
why am I doing this whole build up to
this taking first shots with this it's
been a long time since I've fired slugs
especially 3-inch slugs out of out of a
shotgun that isn't semi-auto and gunner
gonna handle a lot of that recoil so
this sucker kicks like a mule and it's
really good that there is this there is
this pad here it helps I also kind of
learn not being used to using a handle
on a shotgun to apply some back pressure
on this grip and it does help quite a
bit
mitigate the recoil but I will tell you
right now that without a doubt and I
don't know why because on paper it
shouldn't be this way the Winchester
kicked the hardest out of the three
number two was the federal which I kind
of would expected it's firing a heavier
projectile 551 grains going 1,600 feet
per second and the only thing it has to
do is shoot backwards into your shoulder
and the third lightest amount of recoil
and the lightest and I thought the
easiest to shoot most controllable was
the the Remington Slugger which like I
said on paper has identical ballistics
to the Winchester so we don't quite know
how that works but that was just just
what I imagined today but in all I shot
35 3-inch slugs today and I was ready to
quit after about 10 but because I'm
making a video I decided to man up and
see if we couldn't just keep going and
you'll see for my shooting results it's
not what you'd expect to see from
somebody who shoots as much as I do but
I'm gonna have to raise my hand right
now and just admit I am NOT a slug
shooting shotgunner it's not an area
great expertise for me so I found this
to be very instructive to
always excited to go to the range even
if it's an indoor range preference
obviously is being able to shoot out to
greater distances minimum a hundred
usually like two hundred and more so
obviously a rifle guy here but the
indoor range has to do especially when
we're having unusual weather for April
we're seeing temperatures in the
mornings below 20 degrees and windy and
should we got eight inches of fresh snow
here in Minnesota this last week so have
to make do with what you have when it
comes to shotguns 50 yards which is the
the limit of the indoor range where I
shoot is plenty 50 yards is more than
enough because quite frankly when I'm
shooting a shotgun
typically that's the range I'm looking
at if not closer today we're going to be
shooting as I mentioned the slugs and
these are going to be at their most
effective performance under a hundred
yards especially for the smoothbore
slugs that are rifled the non Sabbats
legs and more than realistically if I
were to use these in either a hunting or
self-defense situation it's going to be
more like 50 yards or less so it's a
pretty true test of what these slugs are
doing
overall I found that the function of the
guns loaded wall so you take stop out of
the tube it's a rifle that will take
four plus these three I did folks I
called a couple times look that's just
getting nothing this particular I'm
trying to see I'm really leaning into
that and the taking these shots really
driving me back again there's no place
for this force to go straight back into
my shoulder it was quite the deal each
that's not normally there that's your
broken blood vessels so definitely
something not used to there I felt every
one of those shots today I won't lie to
you guys I hate to I hate to sound like
a Sally here but the truth the matter is
12-gauge with a 3-inch slug eighteen
inch barrel
BAM so first up was that Winchester and
you can see a pretty decent group up off
to the right a little bit that wasn't
because I needed to adjust the the
windage it was more an issue of getting
used to the trigger but the elevation
needed to be adjusted so we figured out
how to do that it's all done in the back
sight and after cranking that down we're
able to get better results but you can
see I'm already starting to anticipate
the recoil here is the federal and these
were sailing high I made a few more
adjustments on my windage as well as
understanding the sight picture and got
those down but they just shot higher
when we went to the Remington we were
getting pretty good groups and also
learning how to shoot the gun and not
anticipate the recoil as much pleased
overall with the results of 50 yards as
you can see I don't have windage issues
and as far as going after a man-sized
target a bear sized target something
like that I'm gonna be pretty good to be
right on so today was a little bit about
firearm evaluation getting used to to
doing something a little bit different
you know I've got enough experience with
the shotguns that certainly if I'm gonna
go out and shoot buckshot shoots shells
that aren't the big ones and things of
that nature it's gonna be a lot easier
to fire this so I don't want to scare
anybody off if you're the first time you
go shoot a firearm you're gonna put the
biggest loads and the biggest ballistics
challenge in terms of recoil and you
might not be you might not be making the
best decision but I really bought this
particular firearm for the self-defense
purpose for the purpose of defending my
home and also for the cool factor I'm
not gonna lie
and so we're going to continue to learn
on this particular type and style of a
firearm as well as you know utilize this
grip to help mitigate some of this
recoil so I'm not taking it all on the
shoulder other things that can be done
on a situation like this strongly
recommend shooting two and three-quarter
inch slugs they make them they're not
quite as powerful and if you're gonna do
a lot of shooting that's a good
suggestion to shave your shoulder but
it's also an experience thing but
whether it gets a little bit nicer here
we'll take this outdoors shoot some
targets with buckshot and birdshot and
things like that but overall a lot of
fun I'm not complaining about not
complaining about the kick to the
shoulder but it is a lot different I've
been shooting a heck of a lot of
semi-automatic rifles lately and when
you do that you get a little bit spoiled
because this mentioned that Big Spring
takes a lot of that recoil out of the
equation you can just focus on the
accuracy but we're gonna keep you up to
speed with what we're doing with this
particular gun and I like it
I'm very interested in Bonelli's m3 and
m4 versions which are semi-automatic and
of course would would be a lot easier
and fun to shoot with some of these
heavier loads they aren't cheap guns
though I've seen them well over well
over the 1,500 to 2,000 dollar range so
you know you're talking about a gun you
need to save your pennies for but I
appreciate you watching this particular
video today as always I hope that you
will support the NASS
Rifle Association it's an American
institution and it's one of the main
reasons that I can go by and shoot
something like this today and I'd really
hate to see myself or any of you
watching as well as our offspring and
future generations lose the ability to
enjoy what we do today whatever you do
make sure you vote thanks again for
watching this is dr drake 63 saying
goodbye
[Applause]
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