China vs. India: Chinese Knock-Offs Can’t Hold Up
Summary
TLDRThe Indian Navy's high-profile rescue operation, involving the use of C-17A transport aircraft and Special Forces, showcased India's sophisticated maritime combat capabilities, sending a message to China about its control over the Indian Ocean. The operation, which included the capture of 35 pirates, highlighted India's strategic advantage in long-distance strikes and sea-air coordination. In contrast, China's naval forces, criticized for focusing on propaganda over combat readiness, face challenges in matching India's operational efficiency and experience, especially in the complex open sea environment. The geopolitical rivalry in the Indian Ocean is intensifying, with India's aggressive naval expansion plans and China's strategic ambitions facing off in a broader contest for regional influence.
Takeaways
- 🚀 The Indian military showcased its capabilities with a high-stakes rescue operation, deploying C-17A transport aircraft and Special Forces to rescue a hijacked commercial vessel.
- 🏆 The successful mission, which included the capture of 35 pirates, was seen as a message to China, asserting India's control over the Indian Ocean.
- 🔍 The Indian Navy's quick response and use of high-tech surveillance, including drones and anti-submarine aircraft, demonstrated its sophisticated sea combat capabilities.
- 🌐 The operation highlighted India's ability to conduct long-distance strikes and precise, real-time tracking, a subtle jab at China's naval forces criticized for focusing more on propaganda.
- 🛳️ India's equipment, mainly sourced from the West, ensures quality and comes with comprehensive training, giving them an edge over China's knockoff equipment.
- 🤝 India has deep collaborations with top naval forces globally, participating in exercises like Malabar, which enhances its combat capabilities and influence.
- 🚢 China's naval strategy in the Indian Ocean faces challenges due to tensions with neighboring countries and a lack of suitable warships for deployment.
- 🔝 India's experience in carrier operations gives it a significant edge over China, with a history of using aircraft carriers effectively in military strategy.
- 💸 India's investment in foreign naval engineering and procurement of advanced weapons provides a key advantage in maintaining a modern and effective navy.
- ⛓️ The geopolitical landscape of the Indian Ocean is critical, with choke points controlling a significant portion of global maritime trade, where India holds strategic advantages.
Q & A
What significant rescue operation did the Indian Air Force and Navy conduct late last year?
-The Indian Air Force and Navy conducted a high-stakes rescue operation where they deployed C-17A Transport Aircraft and Special Forces over a 2,600 km journey to successfully rescue a commercial vessel hijacked by pirates.
How did the Indian media frame the Indian military's operation in the Indian Ocean?
-The Indian media framed the operation as a message to China, asserting control over the Indian Ocean and showcasing India's sophisticated sea combat capabilities.
What was the outcome of the Indian military's operation against the pirates?
-The operation resulted in the capture of 35 pirates on the spot, with the pirates surrendering without any resistance, highlighting India's powerful maritime combat abilities.
How did the Indian Navy respond to the hijacking of the Maltese-flag cargo ship 'Ruen'?
-The Indian Navy responded quickly by deploying the Destroyer INS Kolkata for surveillance and deploying a small drone for close-range reconnaissance.
What challenges did the Indian military face during the operation, and how did they overcome them?
-The Indian military faced the challenge of pirates shooting down their drone, signaling escalation. They overcame this by intensifying monitoring with a P-81 anti-submarine aircraft and a high-altitude drone, followed by a direct rescue operation using Special Forces.
What was the role of the Indian Air Force in the rescue operation?
-The Indian Air Force sent a C-17A transport aircraft carrying two inflatable boats and a team of Marcos Special Forces, who parachuted into the sea and boarded the inflatable boats to approach the hijacked vessel.
How does the script suggest China's naval forces compare to India's in terms of real-world combat readiness?
-The script suggests that China's naval forces focus more on propaganda than real-world combat readiness, which is contrasted with India's demonstrated capabilities in the rescue operation.
What are the key differences between India and China's approach to naval operations in the Indian Ocean as per the script?
-India is portrayed as having a more proactive and experienced approach with high-quality equipment and extensive training, while China's equipment is suggested to be of lower quality and their training and planning less systematic.
What is the significance of the Indian Navy's carrier operations and how do they compare to China's?
-The Indian Navy's carrier operations are significant as they give India a strategic advantage in sea and air dominance. India has a long history and experience with carrier operations, while China's carrier operations are still in development stages and have not conducted large-scale training exercises like India.
How does the script describe the geopolitical landscape in the Indian Ocean region in relation to India and China?
-The script describes a complex geopolitical landscape where India currently holds certain advantages in naval strength and combat experience, while China's rise and strategic expansion in the region could impact the balance of power. The rivalry is expected to intensify, shaping the geopolitical landscape of Asia and the world.
What are India's strategic advantages in the Indian Ocean as outlined in the script?
-India's strategic advantages include its control over critical choke points in the Indian Ocean, its experience in carrier operations, and its partnerships with foreign naval forces for advanced training. Additionally, India's geographic proximity to the Indian Ocean gives it a natural advantage.
Outlines
🚨 Indian Military's High-Stakes Rescue Operation
The Indian military showcased its capabilities in a daring rescue operation late last year, where the Indian Air Force and Navy successfully rescued a commercial vessel hijacked by pirates. The operation involved the deployment of a C-17A transport aircraft and Special Forces over a 2,600 km journey, leading to the capture of 35 pirates. This operation was seen as a subtle message to China, asserting India's control over the Indian Ocean. The Indian media framed it as a demonstration of India's sophisticated sea combat capabilities, in contrast to China's naval forces which are criticized for focusing more on propaganda than real-world combat readiness.
🌊 India's Naval Superiority and International Partnerships
India has a rich history of naval strategy and tactics, as evidenced by its operations during the 1971 India-Pakistan War. India has also collaborated with top naval forces globally, participating in exercises like Malabar, Varuna, Konan, and Simex, which have enhanced its combat capabilities and influence in the Indo-Pacific region. India's equipment is sourced mainly from Western countries, ensuring quality and comprehensive training. In contrast, China's equipment is often of lower quality, and despite having more ships, they are less effective in combat due to issues like equipment failures and lack of systematic planning. India's experience in carrier operations also gives it a significant edge over China.
🏝️ China's Challenges in the Indian Ocean Region
China faces several challenges in asserting its presence in the Indian Ocean. Tensions with neighboring countries and a lack of suitable warships limit China's ability to deploy forces effectively. China's strategy of establishing strategic outposts around India, such as ports in Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Myanmar, is under the watchful eye of the Indian Navy. India's strategy is to maintain control over areas within 500 nautical miles of its coastline and monitor activities beyond that. Any significant Chinese activity within India's striking range would be hard for India to miss. The Indian Air Force's bases on strategic islands are equipped to strike Chinese vessels in the Indian Ocean with ease.
🌐 Geopolitical Rivalry in the Indian Ocean
The rivalry between India and China in the Indian Ocean is intensifying, involving not just naval forces but broader geopolitical contests. The Indian Ocean is a geopolitical hub rich in resources and a key trade route. India is aggressively advancing its naval expansion plans and strengthening its defense capabilities. The United States plays a critical role in this rivalry, with deepening military cooperation with India. The struggle between India and China will shape the geopolitical landscape of Asia and the world, with India currently holding certain advantages in naval strength and combat experience, while China's rise could significantly impact the outcome.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Indian Air Force
💡Special Forces
💡C-17A Transport Aircraft
💡Pirates
💡Indian Navy
💡Maritime Combat Capabilities
💡Geopolitical Hub
💡Choke Points
💡Carrier Operations
💡Anti-Piracy Operations
💡Naval Expansion
Highlights
Indian military's high-stakes rescue operation showcased its capabilities, challenging perceptions of China's superior naval forces.
Indian Air Force and Navy's successful rescue of a hijacked commercial vessel demonstrated strategic coordination and strength.
Use of C-17A transport aircraft and Special Forces for a 2,600 km operation underscored India's long-distance strike capabilities.
Capture of 35 pirates and the operation's international attention highlighted India's sophisticated sea combat capabilities.
Indian media framed the operation as a message to China, asserting control over the Indian Ocean.
The incident began with the hijacking of the Maltese-flag cargo ship 'Ruen' off the coast of Somalia.
Indian Navy's quick response with the destroyer INS Kolkata and deployment of a drone for reconnaissance.
Pirates' unexpected downing of an Indian drone indicated escalating actions and prompted intensified Indian military monitoring.
Launch of a direct rescue operation involving the Indian Air Force and Special Forces, showcasing precision and coordination.
Commandos' accurate parachute landing and assault on the hijacked vessel led to the pirates' surrender without resistance.
The operation's success displayed India's powerful maritime combat abilities and real-time tracking by anti-submarine aircraft and drones.
Comparisons between China's naval forces, criticized for focusing on propaganda, and India's demonstrated combat readiness.
India's equipment, sourced mainly from the West, ensures quality and comes with comprehensive training for operational efficiency.
China's naval strategy in the Indian Ocean faces challenges due to tensions with neighboring countries and a lack of suitable warships.
India's historical naval successes, such as the 1971 India-Pakistan War, demonstrate its rich experience in tactics and strategy.
India's deep collaborations with top naval forces globally, including the Malabar exercises, enhance its combat capabilities.
China's limited naval exercises with Russia and weaker countries restrict its progress in comparison to India's diverse partnerships.
India's plans to build a third aircraft carrier and its current capabilities for distant maritime deployment.
The geopolitical importance of the Indian Ocean, with its critical choke points for global trade and the strategic advantage of controlling these sea lanes.
China's strategic setbacks in South Asia and the challenges it faces in establishing a presence in the Indian Ocean.
The United States' critical role in the rivalry between India and China, with deepening military cooperation with India.
India's aggressive naval expansion plans and its efforts to bolster air and missile defense systems.
The rivalry between India and China in the Indian Ocean as a broader geopolitical contest that will shape the region's landscape.
Transcripts
the Chinese Communist Party frequently
downplays the Indian military's
capabilities however in a notable
display of strength late last year the
Indian Air Force and navy carried out a
highstakes rescue operation Indian
forces deployed c17a Transport Aircraft
and Special Forces over 2,600 km Journey
successfully rescuing a commercial
vessel hijacked by Pirates the mission
supported by an Indian Navy destroyer
resulted in the capture of 35 pirates on
the spot a daring feat that caught
International attention Indian media
framed the operation as a message to
China asserting control over the Indian
Ocean a report in the Eurasian times
cited a Filipino Maritime expert who
prais a mission for showcasing India's
sophisticated sea a combat
capabilities this was seen as a subtle
jab at China's Naval forces which
critics say focus more on propaganda
than our real world combat readiness
the incident began on December 13th last
year a maltes flag cargo ship called
ruen was hijacked by Pirates 240 km off
the coast of Somalia at first the ship
stayed in Somali territorial Waters but
later moved into international waters
the Indian Navy responded quickly the
Destroyer ins Kolkata began surveillance
and deployed a small drone for
close-range reconnaissance surprisingly
the Pirates unfamiliar with high-tech
equipment managed maned to shoot down
the Indian drone by accident losing a
drone wasn't a big issue for India but
it signaled the Pirates were escalating
their actions the Indian military then
intensified its monitoring they deployed
a p81 anti-submarine aircraft and a long
endurance high altitude drone to keep a
close watch on the hijacked vessel after
completing reconnaissance India decided
to launch a direct rescue the Indian Air
Force sent a c17a transport aircraft
carrying two inflatable boats and a team
of macros Special Forces they flew 2,600
km to the Target area the Commandos
parachuted in phases and landed
accurately on the sea surface they then
barded the inflatable boats and headed
straight for the Ruan the 35 Pirates
were caught off guard by the sudden
assault they surrendered without any
resistance this operation showed the
capabilities of the Indian military it
was a longdistance strike over 2,000 km
away way using Airborne Special Forces
at Sea they targeted precisely with
real-time tracking by anti- summering
aircraft and drones the operation had
uninterrupted communication and skilled
Naval Commandos all this displayed
India's powerful Maritime combat
abilities if the Chinese Navy fac a
similar situation the y20 transport
aircraft could theoretically drop
inflatable boats and Personnel at sea
but to achieve India's level of precise
long-distance strikes and Sea Air
coordination they would need more
practice and training in the complex and
dynamic ocean environment airdrop
missions demand High coordination and
Technical skill much of China's
equipment is of knockoff quality with
uneven training and lacks systematic
planning these issues would present
challenges during critical Open Sea
missions India sources its equipment
mainly from the West this ensures
quality and comes with Comprehensive
training to maximize its effectiveness
in terms of equipment quality and
operational efficiency China finds it
hard to match India the Chinese military
would likely rely on the ja long Special
Operations unit from their escort Fleet
they would use assault boats to Shadow
the pirate ship but they might run out
of fuel Midway leaving the mission
stranded in the Indian Ocean China's
escort missions have traditionally been
lowkey and Thrifty deploying a large
Fleet for a few dozen Pirates is not the
CCP style so sending out one or two frig
is already considered a big deal however
relying solely on frigates to patrol
vast ocean areas can be inefficient
without aerial reconnaissance locating a
commercial ship that isn't broadcasting
an identifier becomes a difficult task
shipborne helicopters can assist but
their limited range often restricts
their effectiveness while China has
criticized India's approach as using a
sledgehammer to crack a nut in
situations that require more robust
support China's more restraint strategy
May face challenges in delivering
effective results India's media mocks
China's dumpling making ship building
spree they criticize China for not
deploying these ships when needed this
criticism points out a key issue no
matter how many ships one has if they
are not used in critical moments they
become mere ornaments the retired Vice
commander of the Indian Navy's Southern
command said it clearly India's
operation was a signal to China see how
we can deploy such a large scale
military force in the Indian ocean this
is our backyard China has big Ambitions
in the Indian Ocean but tensions with
neighboring countries in the Western
Pacific in South China's sea make it
hard to send enough ships to assert its
presence even without these conflicts
China lacks enough suitable warships for
deployment among its vessels 30% are
outdated another 30% can only operate in
Shallow Coastal Waters and only 40% can
handle Blue Water operations so even if
China wanted to deploy forces in the
Indian Ocean it could at most send six
to eight ships in contrast India has
half the number of ships compared to
China but has Rich experience in tactics
and strategy during the 1971 India
Pakistan War the Indian Navy used
missile boats in a night raid on Karachi
Port they destroyed many Pakistani
warships and oil tanks this was the
world's first missile boat Le naval
battle 4 days later they launched
operation Trident delivering another
severe blow they further weakened
Pakistan's Naval defense leaving the
Pakistani Navy almost powerless at the
same time India blockaded East
Pakistan's Port now Bangladesh is this
cut off Pakistan's sea supply lines
laying the groundwork for victory in the
Eastern front through this blockade
India helped East Pakistan gain
independence creating today's Bangladesh
India also collaborates deeply with top
Naval forces around the world for
example the Malibar exercises initially
involved India and the US now Japan and
Australia also participate focusing on
Advanced skills like anti-submarine and
carrier operations other exercises
include varuna with France emphasizing
carrier operations Konan with the UK for
anti-submarine and surface wartime and
simex with Singapore covering coastal
defense and offshore combat these drills
have enhanced India combat capabilities
and increased it influence in the
indopacific region India also
participates in the world's largest
multinational Naval exercise rimac here
they train with experts from Asia
Pacific gaining extensive experience on
the other hand China mainly conducts
exercises with Russia and a fewer weaker
countries this limited approach
restricts progress the key for success
is to deploy these resources effectively
at the right place and time China has
certain advantages in Naval deployment
compared to India but India has its
unique response strategies they have
built Partnerships with foreign Naval
engineering companies India's weapons
and sensors come from Top countries they
can freely procure foreign weapons which
is a key Advantage for example the
calari class diesel electric attack
submarines were designed with a French
naval group India now has six in its
Fleet with three or more under
construction India is also building
seven nil giri class fret and plans to
add 15 anti-submarine Warfare vessels
the Indian Navy now has the capability
for distant Maritime deployment it
currently has two warships in the Gulf
of addin and 10 more in the Arabian Sea
for long-term anti-piracy
operations in contrast China's equipment
is mostly knockoffs their quality lags
behind original Western designs
resulting in a higher chance of
equipment failures in combat despite
having many ships they often become dead
weight significantly reducing combat
Effectiveness the Indian Navy can be
considered one of the most experienced
in carrier operations since World War II
apart from the US UK and France this
gives them a significant Edge over China
in 1961 India acquired a decommissioned
British royal Navy aircraft carrier HMS
Hercules later renamed ins vicant during
the 1971 India Pakistan War this carrier
played a key role its airwing conducted
over 4,000 sorties to control sea and
air dominance in the conflict zone They
sank eight Pakistani warships and
directly aided the Army's victory this
shows the Indian Navy has long relied on
carriers for operations carriers have
become the core of the military strategy
either in cooperation with the army or
in independent missions in June last
year India conducted a dual carrier
exercise in the Indian Ocean both the
Eastern and Western fleets were
mobilized the ins vicron matidia and the
newly commissioned ins vicron took part
they even completed nightflight training
for carrier-based aircraft in the in
vicron this achievement is notable as
even the US Navy rarely deploys two
carriers simultaneously in the Indian
Ocean Indian media Outlet Eurasian times
claim this exercise show the Indian Navy
has surpassed China in both aircraft
carrier operations ations in overall
strength China on the other hand has not
conducted large scale training with its
two carriers together they haven't even
moved to the Indian Ocean to show Force
China's three carriers are in different
stages the fuen is still in Sea trials
the leing has moved to the Philippine
Sea and the Shandong is training with
amphibious ships in the South China
Sea India is not stopping here in
November last year the Indian Navy
confirmed plans to build a third
aircraft carrier the Indian government
has allocated 5 billion us for this
project this new carrier will carry 28
aircraft including French Raphael Jets
and possibly us
f-18s while the fleet size may not be
large India believes it will provide the
necessary strike reconnaissance and
support capabilities in the remote areas
of the IND Indian Ocean the Indian Ocean
has four critical choke points the
straight of Horus Babel mandb straight
the mosambi channel in the straight of
malaka more than one-third of global
Maritime trade and 80% of oil and gas
transport passed through these
points if the Indian Navy threatens
these choke points it could seriously
disrupt China's operations aircraft
carriers are the most effective
equipment for enforcing blockades in
these areas China has itions in the
Indian Ocean but its efforts around
South Asia are not going smoothly in
fact China's strategy in this region is
facing setbacks China has tried to
establish strategic outposts around
India these include ports in Pakistan on
the Arabian Sea in Bangladesh and
Myanmar on the Bay of Bengal and in Sri
Lanka at the southern tip of India the
aim is to create dual use ports for
economic and Military purposes and to
reduce Reliance on the straight of Mala
however all these ports are under the
watchful eyes of the Indian Navy India's
strategy is clear the area within 500
nautical miles of its coastline is its
absolute control Zone from 500 to 1,000
nautical miles it maintains basic
control beyond that it has soft control
so all the ports China has invested in
are within India's striking range any
significant Chinese activity would be
hard for India to miss for example if
China wants to transport goods from
Pakistan's guad Port the route is under
Indian surveillance India can monitor
this activity to prevent any suspicious
movement in
2017 Pakistan ordered four type 054 AP
frigates from China to protect guad two
have been delivered but this is not
enough to counter the Indian Navy
myanmar's Kaku port and several ports in
Bangladesh are also within 1,000
nautical miles of India ships Le these
ports must pass through the Andaman and
nicobar Islands which are under Indian
surveillance in response to China's
growing presence India invested 8
billion US in Iran's chabahar Port just
100 kilm West of guad India is also
establishing a port in Indonesia's
sambang Island at the entrance of the
straight of
malaka currently the Chinese Navy
maintains a presence in the Indian Ocean
under the guise of anti-pirate missions
but if tensions between China and India
escalate Chinese fleets would encounter
significant obstacles at Key choke
points like the straight of malaka and
the Sunda Strait complicating the entry
into the Indian Ocean even if they manag
to bypass these barriers they would
still have to navigate close to India's
Andaman and nicobar Islands which
immediately presents logistical
challenges expecting India to provide
refueling and supplies is not realistic
to venture deep ER into the Indian Ocean
China would need to rely on support from
bases in other countries yet these
nations would have to weigh the risks of
aiding China against their relationships
with India and the United
States the Indian Air Force has bases on
dakan Peninsula the lakad weep islands
and the adaman islands equipped with s30
mark1 Fighters armed with Bros missiles
they can Strike Chinese vessels in the
Indian Ocean with ease
if the Indian Navy decides to challenge
China in the Pacific many countries
would support India including Vietnam
Japan Australia Indonesia the US France
and the UK in such a scenario India
could emerge as a
winner the political climate in India's
neighboring countries is also shifting
against China Pakistan's new prime
minister who took office last year began
privatizing state-owned Enterprises
signaling a tilt towards the West
Pakistan already dissatisfied with its
Chinese weapons is growing more
frustrated with China Bangladesh
presents a similar picture China has
invested heavily there building ports
Bridges and power stations and has armed
the Bangladeshi military however in May
a Chinese type 59 tank malfunctioned
causing a fatal accident which angered
the bangl Desi military on August 5th
the pro-china government of Hina was
overthrown by a coalition of the
military and the public on August 8th
United States expressed Readiness to
work with Bangladesh's new interim
government led by Nobel Peace Prize
winner Muhammad yunas they aim to build
a democratic future this suggests that
Hina the former president had long been
under Western scrutiny her pro-china
stance conflicted with the West's plans
to shift the Garment supply chain from
China to Bangladesh myanmar's
geographical position is even more
critical it serves as China's
Southwestern Gateway and borders yunan
making it a strategic area historically
China has not had a strong control over
this region the Myanmar military
government has China's and Russia's
support while the opposing faction is
backed by Western Powers the United
States has stated its intent to expand
support from myanmar's pro-democracy
forces
this move threatens to disrupt China's
strategic plans in South
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Asia the United States plays a critical
role in the Rivalry between India and
China in the Indian Ocean in recent
years military cooperation between the
US and India has deepened the US has
sold Advanced weapons to India like
Apache helicopters and sea Guardians
anti-submarine Patrol aircraft
also the Malabar joint exercises
involving the US India Japan and
Australia have strengthened this
cooperation the 2020 upgrade of these
exercises showed the four nations United
stance against China's strategic
expansion in the Indian Ocean and
indopacific
regions the Indian Ocean is a
geopolitical hub it is rich in oil and
gas resources and serves as a key trade
route connecting Europe Asia and Africa
annual trade through the Indian Ocean
amounts to about5 trillion us around 70%
of the world's Maritime oil trade passes
through it controlling this sea Lane
gives a strategic advantage in global
entry and trade
flows India is aggressively advancing
its Naval expansion plans according to
its Navy Vision 2030 India aims to have
160 warships by 2030 possibly increasing
to 170 5 by
2035 India is also strengthening its
defense capabilities by introducing the
Russian S400 air defense missile system
and developing its own air defense
system project Kusha these efforts show
that India seeks not only to gain an
edge in traditional Naval power but also
to bolster its air and missile defense
systems against potential
threats in the foreseeable future the
Rivalry between India and China in the
Indian Ocean will intensify this is not
just a clash of Naval forces but a
broader geopolitical contest India
currently holds certain advantages in
Naval strength and combat experience
however China's rise in the challenging
dynamics of the region could
significantly impact the outcome this
struggle will shape the geopolitical
landscape of Asia and the world
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