Exposing the Denominations of Nondenominational Churches

Ready to Harvest
15 Sept 202413:34

Summary

TLDRIn this video, Joshua, a Christian denomination researcher, explores the ambiguity surrounding 'non-denominational' churches. He scrutinizes the claims of Journey Church and Summit Church, both identifying as non-denominational yet exhibiting Pentecostal beliefs. Joshua explains how these churches use the term 'non-denominational' to denote independence from a governing body rather than a theological standpoint. He challenges the notion that non-denominational equates to 'Mere Christianity' and highlights the prevalence of hidden denominational affiliations among such churches, urging transparency for potential congregants.

Takeaways

  • 🏛️ Many modern churches, especially in the United States, are labeled as 'non-denominational', yet they often belong to larger groups with shared theological beliefs and historical connections.
  • 🔍 The term 'non-denominational' can be misleading as it is often used to describe a church's lack of affiliation with a governing body rather than its theological identity.
  • 🌐 Despite the rise in non-denominational labels, denominations are not disappearing; they are adapting by going 'underground' or rebranding to appear more inclusive.
  • 👀 The absence of the word 'Pentecostal' on church websites does not necessarily mean the church isn't Pentecostal; it could be an example of equivocation, where the term is used differently.
  • 🔑 Understanding the difference between a church's self-governance ('non-denominational' in the organizational sense) and its theological identity is crucial.
  • 📜 Statements of faith can reveal a church's true theological leanings, even if they do not explicitly state their denominational affiliation.
  • 🏫 Churches that claim to be non-denominational might still adhere to specific doctrines and practices shared by a larger, often unrecognized, group of churches.
  • 🌟 The trend of non-denominationalism can obscure the historical and theological connections between churches, making it harder for potential congregants to understand what they believe.
  • 🤔 When asked about a church's denomination, the answer should reflect its theological and historical identity, not just its organizational structure.
  • 💡 Transparency in church affiliations and beliefs is important for potential members to make informed decisions about where to worship.

Q & A

  • What is the main point of confusion when people refer to a 'non-denominational' church?

    -The confusion arises from the dual meaning of the term 'denomination.' People often ask about the theological or historical family of a church (question one), but non-denominational churches answer by referring to their lack of a governing organizational entity (question two).

  • Why do some churches avoid using the term 'Pentecostal' even if their beliefs align with Pentecostal theology?

    -Some churches might avoid the term 'Pentecostal' to present a more inclusive or non-sectarian image, despite their beliefs and practices aligning with Pentecostal theology.

  • What is the logical fallacy mentioned in the script that can be applied to the understanding of 'non-denominational' churches?

    -The logical fallacy mentioned is equivocation, which occurs when the same term is used with different meanings in an argument, leading to confusion or misinterpretation.

  • How does the script suggest that one can identify the denominational family of a church that claims to be non-denominational?

    -The script suggests looking at the church's statement of faith, historical affiliations, and any mention of belonging to a larger group or movement, which can provide clues to their denominational family.

  • What does the script imply about the transparency of non-denominational churches regarding their theological affiliations?

    -The script implies that many non-denominational churches are not transparent about their theological affiliations, which can lead to misunderstandings for those seeking to understand the church's beliefs.

  • How does the script define a 'denomination' in the context of Christian churches?

    -The script defines a 'denomination' as any set of congregations identifiable by similar traits, history, or name, which can include a wide range of church groups, from the Catholic Church to independent fundamental Baptists.

  • What is the significance of the phrase 'Mere Christianity' mentioned in the script?

    -The phrase 'Mere Christianity' refers to a basic set of Christian beliefs that are widely accepted across denominations, focusing on core tenets rather than divisive issues. The script suggests that some non-denominational churches might claim to practice this but still hold specific doctrines.

  • Why might a church choose to identify as 'non-denominational' despite being part of a larger theological movement?

    -A church might choose to identify as 'non-denominational' to avoid the perceived negative connotations associated with denominations, to appear more inclusive, or to emphasize their independence from a central governing body.

  • What is the role of the Calvary Chapel Association mentioned in the script?

    -The Calvary Chapel Association is mentioned as an example of a group of churches that, despite claiming to be non-denominational, share common beliefs and practices, indicating a denominational-like structure.

  • How does the script suggest that the term 'non-denominational' is being used by some churches to hide their theological positions?

    -The script suggests that some churches use the term 'non-denominational' to avoid the label of a specific denomination while still adhering to specific theological positions, thus 'hiding' their true affiliations.

Outlines

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🏛️ The Ambiguity of 'Non-Denominational' Churches

This paragraph discusses the difficulty in identifying the denomination of churches that do not openly declare their affiliation. The speaker, Joshua, a Christian denomination researcher, explains that while traditionally churches would clearly state their denomination, modern churches with names like 'Journey Church' or 'Summit Church' do not, leading to ambiguity. To clarify, Joshua checks their websites and finds that both are Pentecostal in theology despite claiming to be non-denominational. He introduces the concept of 'equivocation' as a logical fallacy that allows these churches to claim both identities. The paragraph ends with a critique of the misuse of the term 'denomination' and a call for clarity in church identification.

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🌐 The Broad Spectrum of Non-Denominational Churches

Paragraph 2 delves into the misconception that non-denominational churches are a homogeneous group practicing 'Mere Christianity'. Joshua argues that many non-denominational churches are, in fact, part of larger theological movements or have specific doctrinal stances. He uses 'Citygates Church' as an example, which is part of the Calvary Chapel Association, indicating a shared set of beliefs and practices. The paragraph highlights several other churches that, despite being non-denominational, are part of significant religious movements or families, such as the Church of God, International Churches of Christ, and the local churches. The speaker emphasizes the importance of understanding that non-denominational does not equate to a lack of affiliation or shared theological identity.

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🔍 Unveiling the True Nature of Non-Denominational Churches

In this paragraph, Joshua continues to challenge the idea that non-denominational churches are free from any affiliations or theological commitments. He provides numerous examples of churches that, while claiming to be non-denominational, are part of larger Christian movements with specific beliefs and practices. These include associations like the Evangelical Association of reformed and congregational Christian churches, the independent Christian churches, and the local churches. Joshua stresses the importance of transparency and the need for churches to be clear about their theological identity. He concludes with advice for churchgoers to be aware of the potential for hidden affiliations and for churches to be upfront about their connections to larger religious groups.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Denomination

A denomination refers to a distinct religious body within a larger faith, identified by its specific beliefs, practices, and ecclesiastical governance. In the video, the concept is explored in relation to churches that identify as non-denominational, yet may still adhere to certain theological stances or belong to a broader movement. The video discusses how some churches use the term 'non-denominational' to indicate independence from a centralized governing body rather than a lack of affiliation with any theological tradition.

💡Non-denominational

Non-denominational typically means not affiliated with any specific religious group or denomination. The video scrutinizes this term, pointing out that many churches labeled as such may still hold to particular theological beliefs or be part of a larger, unstructured religious movement. The video uses examples like Journey Church and Summit Church to illustrate how these churches might be non-denominational in the sense of not being under a centralized authority but still have distinct theological identities.

💡Statement of Faith

A Statement of Faith is a formal declaration of the core beliefs of a religious group or church. In the context of the video, it is used to analyze whether a church is truly non-denominational or if it belongs to a specific theological tradition. The video mentions that despite not identifying as a particular denomination, some churches' statements of faith reveal their alignment with certain theological views, such as Pentecostalism.

💡Pentecostal

Pentecostal refers to a denomination within Christianity that emphasizes the work of the Holy Spirit, including spiritual gifts like speaking in tongues. The video uses this term to categorize certain non-denominational churches that, despite not using the label 'Pentecostal,' hold to Pentecostal theological beliefs, as evidenced by their statements of faith or practices.

💡Equivocation

Equivocation is a logical fallacy where a word or phrase is used with multiple meanings, leading to confusion or deception. The video discusses how some churches might equivocate on the term 'denomination' by using it to mean a lack of centralized governance rather than a lack of theological affiliation, which can mislead people about the church's actual beliefs.

💡Mere Christianity

Mere Christianity refers to the core, undifferentiated beliefs that all Christians hold, without delving into the specific doctrines that divide denominations. The video suggests that some people might assume non-denominational churches practice a form of 'Mere Christianity,' focusing on broad Christian values rather than specific doctrinal disputes.

💡Calvary Chapel Association

The Calvary Chapel Association is a network of churches that share common beliefs and practices, despite not being a formal denomination. The video uses this as an example to show how a group of non-denominational churches can still be part of a larger, identifiable movement with specific theological commitments.

💡Church of God

The Church of God is a movement within Protestant Christianity with various branches, some of which identify as non-denominational. The video points out that while these churches might not use the term 'denomination' to describe themselves, they still have a shared history, common practices, and theological stances that link them together.

💡International Churches of Christ

The International Churches of Christ is a movement that originated from the Churches of Christ and is known for its distinctive beliefs and practices. The video mentions this group as an example of a non-denominational church family that has a clear identity and shared theological stance, despite not using the term 'denomination' to describe themselves.

💡Local Churches

The Local Churches is a movement known for its unique practices and teachings, which originated from the teachings of Witness Lee. The video notes that while churches within this movement might claim to be non-denominational, they are part of a larger group with specific theological and ecclesiastical characteristics.

Highlights

Churches often do not display their denominations openly, leading to confusion for the uninitiated.

Modern technology allows individuals to learn about a church's denomination through their website.

Journey Church and Summit Church are identified as non-denominational but have Pentecostal theological leanings.

The absence of the term 'Pentecostal' on church websites despite holding Pentecostal beliefs is highlighted.

The concept of 'denomination' is explored through the lens of a logical fallacy called equivocation.

Denominations can be defined in multiple ways, often leading to misunderstandings about a church's affiliations.

Non-denominational churches may own their properties and have independent governance, differing from traditional denominations.

The rise of non-denominational churches in America is discussed, challenging the notion that denominations are fading.

Many non-denominational churches are part of larger movements or families of churches with shared beliefs.

The importance of transparency in church affiliations and beliefs is emphasized for clarity and trust.

Examples of non-denominational churches that are part of significant religious movements are provided.

The idea that non-denominational churches practice a form of 'Mere Christianity' is questioned.

The video argues for a more accurate understanding of what 'non-denominational' means in the context of church affiliations.

The role of historical and theological commonalities in defining a denomination is discussed.

The video concludes with a call for churches to be transparent about their theological and historical connections.

Transcripts

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have you ever had the thought as you

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passed a church in your hometown of

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Farmington New Mexico I wonder what

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denomination that church is it used to

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be that churches told you what their

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denomination is but now they don't so as

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you pass Journey Church or Summit Church

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you really have no idea what it is that

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they believe but luckily we're in the

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21st century so you can just go on their

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website and find out what will it be

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Baptist Methodist Lutheran Pentecostal

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maybe Church of the Brethren or menonite

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well Summit Church says they are a

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Spirit-filled non-denominational Faith

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and Family Church Journey Church is a

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casual and friendly non-denominational

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church so what have we learned about

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these churches the answer is mostly

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nothing if you're new to my channel my

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name is Joshua and I'm a Christian

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denomination researcher luckily these

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two churches actually have statements of

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faith on their website and I can

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normally find out what denominational

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family a church is so long as they tell

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a few key things about their beliefs

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here's Summit Church's We Believe

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statement take a look right down here

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and you'll find what you're looking for

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we believe in the baptism of the holy

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spirit with the evidence of speaking in

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other tongues combined with their

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affirmation of the Trinity we can see

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that this is a Pentecostal Church

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Journey Church's tenants of Faith which

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should be tenants might want to fix that

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is actually very similar though more

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detailed in fact this statement of faith

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looks familiar because it's just a

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slightly modified version of the

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10-point statement of Kenneth Hagen

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Ministries it also has a line that

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reveals Pentecostal Theology and Kenneth

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Hagen was a well-known Pentecostal

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preacher so once again we're talking

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about a Pentecostal Church however for

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both of these two churches the word

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Pentecostal is nowhere to be found on

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their websites what are two Pentecostal

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churches doing claiming to be

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non-denominational well the answer lies

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in a logical fallacy called equivocation

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here's how that works let's use a Bible

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example in the King James version 1 John

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4:12 says no man hath seen God at any

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time from that we can conclude that

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though no man has seen God perhaps a

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woman has right well no because that's a

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fallacy we've used two definitions of

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the same word in 1 John 4:12 the word

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man means human but a more common usage

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today means we're talking about a male

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human if we going to understand the

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Bible or any book or just our own

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conversations we need to make sure that

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we're not switching up the meaning of

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words in the middle so as it relates to

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denominations there's several meanings

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of the term denomination when you ask

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what denomination is that church here

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are two different questions you may be

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asking first what is the name of the set

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of churches the type or family of

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churches that has similar

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characteristics or history of this one

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or second what is the organized entity

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that has governing authority over this

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church when anyone asks that question

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they're almost always asking question

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one they want to know if the church is

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Baptist or Brethren or bruderhof they

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may want a bit more specificity too like

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is it Southern Baptist or Independent

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Baptist or is it open Brethren or

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schwarzen now Brethren however for many

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non-denominational churches they don't

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answer question one they answer question

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two what is the organized entity that

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has governing authority over this church

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and for churches that identify as

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non-denominational the answer is

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normally that there isn't one

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non-denominational churches probably own

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their own properties can write their own

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statements of faith and they don't have

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to send money onto headquarters now

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that's a useful thing to know it's worth

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telling people if your Church's

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government structure ends at the local

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congregation or if there's something

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higher up like a senate or general

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conference but it's still probably not

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the question people are asking I made a

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video back in June 2022 where I

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controversially asked what is a

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denomination and my answer is that there

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are many definitions but the one I use

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on this channel is any set of

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congregations identifiable by similar

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traits history or name with that

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definition pretty much anything is a

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denomination Churches of Christ is a

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denomination the Catholic church is a

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denomination independent fundamental

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Baptists they're a denomination pretty

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much anyone who does or doesn't want to

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be called a denomination is a

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denomination if you want to dispute that

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I suggest going back to watch that video

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first but I think everyone intuitively

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gets this if someone walks into your

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church and says by the way what

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denomination is this they would love for

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the answer to be Catholic if the church

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is Catholic if the church is open

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Brethren the answer should be open

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Brethren if the church is Pentecostal

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they want you to say Pentecostal if you

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want to go on to talk about the church's

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government structure and how you're

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independent or the one true church or

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that you're pred denominational or

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something then feel free to do that but

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we all real know the question that was

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being asked now I think many of us are

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on the same page here but you may not

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realize how many churches are hiding

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behind the non-denominational label

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there's been lots of talk about the

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rising number of non-denominational

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churches in America and the common

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thought is that things are becoming post

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denominational denominations are out but

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there's a lot of people who attend a

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church that is non- denominational

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according to question two that I think

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we can all agree to don't really match

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the storyline what kind of seems implied

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is that non-denominational churches

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practice some form of Mere Christianity

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with the denominational fighting topics

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smoothed over and focusing on the

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importance of Christian Living and the

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gospel instead of fights over worship

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style Bible versions The intricate

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details of the Lord's supper and so

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forth but there's actually a bunch of

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churches that advertise that they are

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non-denominational but care very much

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about some very specific doctrines take

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the citygates church in Fairfax Virginia

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there who we are page says the city

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Gates church is a non-denominational

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church focused on teaching the truth of

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God's word verse by verse demonstrating

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the love of God to others and

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proclaiming Jesus to the Nations we hold

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to the historic confessional Creeds of

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the Christian faith we are both

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conservative and Evangelical but

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citygates Church isn't just a lone

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Church doing its own thing it's part of

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the Calvary Chapel Association which has

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about 1,800 churches churches that are

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part of the association all affirm only

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men may have pastoral leadership full

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immersion baptism and pre-tribulation

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Rapture premillennial ES kology among

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other beliefs Calvary chapels claim not

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to be a denomination because again they

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don't meet definition two the

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association can't control the churches

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they may or may not even be affiliated

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with it and they can do whatever they

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want and leave at any time but that

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aside there is a definite group of

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churches that have the same teaching on

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many areas and similar Ministry

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philosophy they send people to the same

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Bible colleges and attend the same

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conferences support the same

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missionaries and so on since they have

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an answer to question one it's a

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denomination and City Gates Church does

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mention their affiliation on another

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page of their website which is the

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honest thing to do so we've identified

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the denomination of three

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non-denominational churches so far but

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in the process realize that there are

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thousands more 1,800 churches that say

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they are non-denominational are Calvary

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Chapel churches thousands of

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non-denominational churches are actually

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Pentecostal churches so let's look at

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some more First Church of God in

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Greenville Pennsylvania says basically

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we are a non-denominational Bible

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thumping Christian Church who believes

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in Jesus Christ as the Son of God and

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the only way to heaven but if you look

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up the church finder for the Church of

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God Anderson Indiana you'll find First

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Church of God on there that's of course

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because the Church of God Anderson

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Indiana doesn't identify as a

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denomination but rather a movement they

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have a website a history and leaders and

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they also have 2,100 congregations in

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the US and Canada and 7,800 worldwide on

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the homepage of Cardiff Church in Wales

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you read we are a multicultural

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non-denominational Christian Church

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founded and structured on biblical

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principles and standards found in the

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word of Christ but down at the bottom of

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the page they also disclose that they

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are a member Congregation of the

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international Churches of Christ ioc

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says they are a family of 700 churches

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in 150 countries I actually originated

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from the Churches of Christ which is a

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group of churches associated with the

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restoration movement in the United

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States and if you go to church websites

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of Churches of Christ you'll find them

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often saying they are non-denominational

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too like Sena Church of Christ and in

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South Carolina the 2020 us religion

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census counted

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11,881 churches in the US and 1, 422,000

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members in Churches of Christ these

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churches are identifiable as a group

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they have distinctive doctrines like

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Believers baptism for salvation weekly

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communion and rejection of instruments

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and worship so Churches of Christ which

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aren't a denomination had a group of

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churches Divide from them International

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Churches of Christ not a denomination

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and from them another non- denomination

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divided the International Christian

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churches Detroit International Christian

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Church says on their website the Detroit

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International Christian Church is a

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non-denominational church that is part

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of the International Christian churches

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and a member of the soldout discipling

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movement we are a family of Christian

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churches whose members are committed to

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living their lives in accordance with

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the teachings of Jesus Christ as found

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in the Bible there are 156 International

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Christian churches in the directory of

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the so-called family of churches Grace

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Reformed Church is non-denominational

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but they're also reformed Baptists

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Crossroads Church is too Church of God

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Paka is a Bible believing

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non-denominational congregation but they

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are part of the Church of God evening

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light which divided from the Church of

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God Anderson Indiana friendship Grace

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Brethren Church is an independent

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non-denominational body of Believers but

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they're also part of Caris Fellowship

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which is an anabaptist family of more

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than 230 interdependent churches

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campuses and Ministries in the United

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States and Canada if you're familiar

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with the nominations you might notice

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what group some of these churches are

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part of by their names but many people

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looking for a church might not realize

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that these non-denominational churches

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are part of families or movements of

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thousands of churches so when you read

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that Northridge Bible Chapel is a

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non-denominational assembly of Believers

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that meets together in North Raleigh

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according to New Testament example you

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may know that congregations that have

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Bible Chapel in their name are most

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commonly part of the open Brethren which

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have 1,300 churches on this map and have

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their own set of doctrines and practices

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that identify them like

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dispensationalism and weekly

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unprogrammed Lord's Supper services but

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others might not know that this

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non-denominational congregation is part

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of anything bigger than itself the

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church in Los Angeles says we are not

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part of any denomination we follow the

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New Testament pattern which shows Christ

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believers who congregate only on the

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basis of the locality in which they live

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because we live in Los Angeles we meet

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simply as the church in Los Angeles as

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the church in Los Angeles we receive all

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the Believers in Los Angeles as Christ

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has also received us when you read that

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you may recognize this as the calling

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card for a church in the local churches

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here's an identical statement from the

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church in Woodbridge with just the city

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name swapped out the local churches

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normally use the Bible version that they

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produce the recovery version and still

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today are heavily influenced by the

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teachings of two early leaders witness

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Lee and Watchman NE here's a map of

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their churches in the US but many people

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wouldn't know that this church is part

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of anything until maybe after they've

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attended a few services and asked some

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questions the church Church says it's

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non-denominational after all I could

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keep going for a long time Living Word

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Maiden head is non-denominational but

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they're also a parish of the Redeemed

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Christian Church of God which has 50,000

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parishes and 9 million members Salem

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Reformed Church is non- denominational

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but part of the Evangelical Association

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of reformed and congregational Christian

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churches here's their map abalene First

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Christian Church is non- denominational

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but they're part of the independent

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Christian churches which have 5,000

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churches in the US and a million members

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in fact if you Google the statement that

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gave about being non-denominational

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you'll see that there's an awful lot of

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other non-denominational churches that

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say the exact same thing down to the

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letter and how about Faith Assembly

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Church in Clarksville Indiana

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non-denominational but they have some

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precise beliefs because they are message

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believers who teach that William

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brandham was the end times messenger for

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told in the Old Testament Book of

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Malachi brandham preached against

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denominations and so these churches

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always identify as non-denominational

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but this directory has over 600 of them

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and they all teach about brandom and his

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doctrines like Jesus name baptism and

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annihilationism Living Hope Church in

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North Carolina is non-denominational but

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they're also a Confluence Church along

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with the other churches on this map and

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Confluence itself is just one of the

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apostolic spheres of New Frontiers which

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has 2,500 churches in 80 countries I

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don't even have time to get into

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churches like the Grove Community Church

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which is non-denominational because it's

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actually aligned with two denominations

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the Southern Baptist convention and the

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Christian and Missionary Alliance so

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what's the point here here's three

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takeaways number one if a church says

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that they are non-denominational don't

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assume that they're not part of a larger

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set of churches with similar Theology

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and history number two the trend toward

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non- denominationalism in America means

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that more churches are removing

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denominations from their name and

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website but they often are still

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associated in some way with something

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bigger than themselves so be wary of

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claims that denominations are really

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going away many are just going

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underground and finally if you're part

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of one of these churches churches and

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someone asks what denomination is this

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church realize they're probably asking

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question number one if you know that

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your church fits with a group of

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churches and they share common beliefs

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and perhaps even have a historical story

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behind them don't give them an answer to

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question number two at least not first

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tell everyone who you are and be

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transparent sure you can keep Vision

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church or imagine Church on the sign

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outside to keep a bit of Mystique but

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once people are in the door they want

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answers

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