Justice with Michael Sandel - BBC: Justice: Torture and human dignity

Harvard University
13 Jun 201106:37

Summary

TLDRThe video script explores the conflict between respecting human dignity and the moral imperative to save innocent lives. It recounts the case of a kidnapped child in Germany, where the police chief's threat of torture led to a confession but also to his prosecution for human rights violation. The script contrasts Kantian ethics, which prioritize inherent human dignity over utilitarianism, arguing that even criminals should not be used as means to an end. It raises questions about the limits of dignity and the ethical dilemmas faced when the stakes are life and death.

Takeaways

  • 📜 Kant is often referred to as the father of human rights due to his emphasis on human dignity.
  • 🇩🇪 The German Constitution's first article asserts the inviolability of human dignity, reflecting Kantian ethics.
  • 🚨 In the 2002 Yob Vler case, a conflict arose between respecting human dignity and the urgency to save a kidnapped child.
  • 🔍 The deputy police chief threatened the kidnapper with torture to reveal the child's location, raising ethical questions.
  • 🔒 The kidnapper confessed to the crime under duress, leading to his life sentence, but also resulted in the deputy police chief's prosecution for rights violation.
  • 🤔 The debate centers on whether inherent human qualities can be forfeited by committing heinous acts, and if so, how to treat criminals.
  • 🙅‍♂️ Kantian ethics argue against using a person as a means to an end, even if the goal is noble, such as saving a life.
  • 🔄 Utilitarianism offers a contrasting view, suggesting that actions' morality is relative and context-dependent, including the use of torture.
  • 👨‍👧 The case raises the hypothetical scenario of torturing an innocent, like the kidnapper's daughter, to save multiple lives, challenging moral principles.
  • 💡 The discussion highlights the tension between deontological ethics, which focus on duty and rules, and consequentialism, which evaluates actions based on outcomes.
  • 🌟 The Yob Vler case sparked significant debate in Germany over the balance between constitutional rights and practical actions needed to protect citizens.

Q & A

  • Who is K referred to in the script, and why is he called the father of Human Rights?

    -K refers to Immanuel Kant, a German philosopher who emphasized human dignity and ethics. He is called the father of Human Rights due to his significant influence on the development of the concept of human rights and his philosophical works that laid the groundwork for modern human rights theories.

  • What is the first article of the German Constitution regarding human dignity?

    -The first article of the German Constitution declares that human dignity shall be inviolable and that it must never be compromised, reflecting the strong commitment to human rights and dignity in Germany.

  • What dilemma was faced in the 2002 Yob vler kidnapping case?

    -In the 2002 Yob vler kidnapping case, the dilemma was whether to respect the kidnapper's dignity by not torturing him to reveal the location of the kidnapped child, or to potentially violate his rights in order to save the child's life.

  • What action did the deputy police chief of Frankfurt take in the Yob vler case, and what was the outcome?

    -The deputy police chief of Frankfurt threatened the kidnapper, Magnus Gaffin, with torture to make him reveal the location of the child. The threat worked, and Gaffin admitted to killing the child and hiding the body. However, the deputy police chief was also prosecuted and convicted for violating the kidnapper's rights.

  • What is the argument against torturing someone, even for a good cause, according to Kantian ethics?

    -According to Kantian ethics, one cannot use a person as a means to an end, even if the purpose is good. Torturing someone, even to save a life, is seen as using that person merely as a means, which violates their inherent dignity and rights.

  • How does a utilitarian perspective differ from Kantian ethics in evaluating moral actions?

    -A utilitarian perspective focuses on the consequences of actions, considering what brings the greatest good for the greatest number of people. This can lead to different moral evaluations compared to Kantian ethics, which emphasizes duty and respect for individuals as ends in themselves, rather than as means to achieve an outcome.

  • What is the utilitarian argument for potentially torturing the kidnapper or his daughter in the Yob vler case?

    -The utilitarian argument would be that if torturing the kidnapper or his daughter would lead to saving the kidnapped child's life, then it could be morally justified because the action would result in the greatest good by saving an innocent life.

  • What is the counter-argument from a war reporter's perspective on using torture to achieve a good end?

    -The counter-argument from a war reporter's perspective is that using torture, even with a good end in mind, can lead to severe human rights abuses and suffering. They argue that Kantian thinking is essential to protect human rights and prevent the misuse of power.

  • What debate did the Yob vler case prompt in Germany regarding constitutional commitment?

    -The Yob vler case prompted debate in Germany over the constitutional commitment to human dignity, specifically whether the use of torture, even in extreme cases, could be justified and how it aligns with the country's human rights principles.

  • How does the script suggest that Kantian thinking can protect human rights?

    -The script suggests that Kantian thinking can protect human rights by emphasizing the inherent dignity of every individual and the importance of treating people as ends in themselves, not as means to an end. This ethical framework provides a moral guideline to prevent the misuse of power and the violation of human rights.

Outlines

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🏛️ Kantian Ethics and Human Dignity

The paragraph discusses the philosophical implications of Immanuel Kant's emphasis on human dignity, which has earned him the title of 'father of human rights.' It contrasts the Kantian categorical imperative, which forbids using a person merely as a means to an end, with the utilitarian perspective that might justify torture to save lives. The narrative pivots around a real-life case where a German police official threatened a kidnapper with torture to reveal the location of a child. Despite the utilitarian argument for potentially saving an innocent life, the Kantian viewpoint emphasizes the inherent dignity of every individual, even criminals, which should not be violated regardless of the circumstances.

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📚 The Tension Between Utilitarianism and Deontological Ethics

This paragraph delves into the ethical debate between utilitarianism and deontological ethics, using the case of a kidnapped child to illustrate the conflict. It presents a utilitarian argument that might support torturing the kidnapper or even an innocent party to save multiple lives. The paragraph also includes the perspective of a war reporter who has witnessed the devastating effects of utilitarian thinking, leading to the abuse and torture of individuals. The reporter advocates for deontological ethics as a necessary framework to prevent the misuse of people as mere means to an end. The paragraph concludes with the discussion of the Yob Vler case, which sparked significant debate in Germany regarding the constitutional protection of human dignity.

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Keywords

💡Human Dignity

Human dignity refers to the inherent worth and respect that every individual possesses simply by being human. In the video, it is highlighted as a core value, with the German Constitution's first article emphasizing its inviolability. The concept is central to the ethical dilemma presented in the script, where the police chief's threat to torture a kidnapper to save a child's life conflicts with the principle of preserving human dignity.

💡Kantian Ethics

Kantian ethics, derived from the philosopher Immanuel Kant, emphasizes the importance of treating individuals as ends in themselves, never merely as means to an end. The script discusses this concept in the context of the police chief's actions, questioning whether the end of saving a child justifies the means of torturing a kidnapper, which Kantian ethics would argue is morally wrong.

💡Utilitarianism

Utilitarianism is an ethical theory that judges the morality of an action by its outcome, specifically the greatest good for the greatest number of people. The script contrasts this with Kantian ethics, suggesting that a utilitarian might justify torture if it saves multiple lives, even if it means violating an individual's rights.

💡Torture

Torture is the act of inflicting severe physical or psychological pain on someone to obtain information or a confession. In the video, the police chief's threat of torture to extract the location of the kidnapped child from the kidnapper is a central ethical conflict, pitting the urgency of saving a life against the moral prohibition of torture.

💡Consequentialism

Consequentialism is the moral view that the value of an action is determined by its consequences. The script uses this concept to frame the utilitarian argument, where the potential saving of multiple lives through torture is weighed against the harm caused to the individual being tortured.

💡Innocence

Innocence in the context of the video refers to the state of being free from guilt or sin, particularly in reference to the kidnapped child and the kidnapper's daughter. The script explores the moral implications of using an innocent person as a means to an end, even if it's to save another innocent life.

💡Moral Dilemma

A moral dilemma is a situation where a choice must be made between options that involve difficult or conflicting moral principles. The script presents a moral dilemma where the police chief must decide between respecting the dignity of the kidnapper and using potentially morally reprehensible means to save the child.

💡Human Rights

Human rights are the basic rights and freedoms to which all individuals are entitled, regardless of nationality, sex, nationality, ethnicity, language, or any other status. The video discusses how the concept of human rights, particularly the right to dignity, is challenged when faced with a situation where violating these rights might save a life.

💡Deontological Ethics

Deontological ethics, or duty-based ethics, is the view that the morality of an action is determined by whether that action itself is right or wrong, rather than the consequences of the action. The script contrasts this with consequentialism, suggesting that deontological ethics would prohibit torture regardless of the outcome.

💡Ethical Absolutism

Ethical absolutism is the belief that there are absolute moral standards that apply in all situations. The video touches on this concept through the discussion of Kantian ethics, where certain actions, like torture, are deemed morally wrong regardless of the context or potential benefits.

💡Moral Relativism

Moral relativism is the belief that moral principles are not absolute but are instead culturally or personally relative. The script implies that a utilitarian approach could be seen as a form of moral relativism, where the morality of an action like torture depends on the specific context and outcomes.

Highlights

K's emphasis on human dignity is so profound that he is referred to as the father of Human Rights.

The German Constitution's first article asserts the inviolability of human dignity.

A moral dilemma arises when respecting dignity might prevent saving an innocent life.

The 2002 Yob vler kidnapping case exemplifies the conflict between dignity and saving a life.

Magnus Gaffin's arrest and refusal to disclose the child's location led to police threats of torture.

The deputy police chief's threat of torture was effective but also led to his prosecution.

The case raises questions about the limits of treating a criminal with dignity.

Kantian ethics argue against using a person, even a criminal, merely as a means to an end.

Utilitarianism offers a contrasting view, suggesting that the ends can justify the means, including torture.

A utilitarian might argue that not torturing when it could save lives is morally irresponsible.

The debate includes the hypothetical scenario of torturing an innocent to save multiple lives.

Emotional resistance is noted when considering torturing an innocent, even for a greater good.

A war reporter's perspective emphasizes the devastating consequences of justifying torture for any end.

Kantian thinking is advocated as a necessary guide to protect human rights against utilitarian abuses.

The Yob vler case sparked significant debate on Germany's commitment to constitutional human dignity.

Transcripts

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K's emphasis on human dignity has led

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him to be called the father of Human

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Rights and his influence remain strong

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in modern Germany the first article of

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the Constitution declares that human

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dignity shall be inviable never to be

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compromised but what happens when

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respecting someone's dignity prevents us

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from acting to save an innocent

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life

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in 2002 yob vler the 11-year-old son of

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a prominent German banking family was

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kidnapped a few days later the police

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arrested Magnus Gaffin after he had

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collected The Ransom money but he

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refused to say where his victim was

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hidden the deputy police chief of

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Frankfurt told this uh

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kidnapper that if he doesn't tell where

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he where the child is hidden he would

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suffer uh in a way that he cannot even

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imagine he threatened torture threatened

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him with torture

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exactly the threat

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worked Gaffin admitted that he had

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already killed the boy and hidden the

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body he was given a life sentence for

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murder but remarkably

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the deputy police chief was also

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prosecuted and convicted of violating

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the kidnapper

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rights you're trying to save an innocent

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child and here you have the criminal who

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kidnapped him the the argument against

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it is that there are some inherent

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qualities in a person that the person

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cannot forfeit even by doing the worst

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Deeds uh possible according to Canan

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ethics uh uh you're not allowed to just

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use a person uh to just abuse him to

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hurt him to torture him in order to get

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something out of him even if the purpose

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of this was good because that's using a

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person as a means rather than respecting

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him as an end exactly even though he's a

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criminal a kidnapper even though it's a

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criminal even though we think he didn't

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really act terribly you know he didn't

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really have much dignity uh in his own

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actions why should you treat him you

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know with respect and dignity exactly

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you are not allowed to treat a person as

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a means for another end now here's what

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a utilitarian would say a utilitarian

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would say you've defended

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Kant on his categorical

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principle but you've just shown what's

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morally absurd about the Canan position

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within the utilitarian way of thinking

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about moral issues or moral

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cases you cannot distinguish in the end

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anymore what kind of action is good and

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what kind of action is bad it's it's

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totally relative in some instances it's

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good to torture in other instances is

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not good to torture what about respect

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for human

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dignity well again I would say what

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about respect for the Dignity of the

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child right I mean here's a child who is

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locked up somewhere

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um going to die slowly from from hunger

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and thirst um there's no way that's a

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dignified thing to do to the child as a

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utilitarian I would say if I know that I

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can save the child and I don't then I'm

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responsible for that child's death and

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and that's what in my view CS refuse to

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acknowledge their responsibility for the

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things that they don't do that could

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save lives now in the German case the

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kidnapping case they were confident that

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they had identified the perpetrator

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let's assume that's the case but the

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perpetrator still won't talk even under

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torture but he would talk if you

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tortured his 14-year-old

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daughter would you do it I think I mean

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that would be much a much harder case

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you know in an emotional level I think

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to torture someone who is you know has

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done something horrible is something

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that you can psychologically come at

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more easily than to torture somebody

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who's completely innocent um so if it's

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simply the one-on-one case here I would

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say no um because the child that you're

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torturing is just as innocent as the

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child who's dying but if there are 10

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children who but if you up the numbers

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um I suppose I'm going to come under a

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lot of pressure and um perhaps I will

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say I don't know if I could do it but I

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perhaps I would say if you really knew

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that that was going to get the

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information to save the 10 children then

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you would then the right thing do would

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be to torture one to save 10 even an

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innocent girl she's Innocent but so are

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the 10 innocent of course and it's a

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matter of numbers and it's a matter of

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numbers in the end as a war reporter I

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have to

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say you know I I can

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see I I speak to people who were victims

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of this kind of thinking uh you know if

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you if you talk to people who were

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tortured badly tortured exactly with

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that kind of

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argument

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um it it's so evident why you need Cent

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thinking as the guidance per se to stop

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people from thinking they could use

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others as a means it's it's for me

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that's you know it's it's I I I see on

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every single trip I make to whichever

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country wherever I speak to people who

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um you know were abused who were

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tortured who were mistreated with such

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kind of argument that it's it's full

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purpose but it there's a good end to

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this there's a reason why we could

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torture people it's devastating to see

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that so I'm I'm you know I'm deep I'm

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deeply convinced that Kanan thinking uh

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is is the best guidance we have to

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protect human

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rights the V metler case prompted much

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debate over Germany's constitutional

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commitment to human dignity

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