How Liberal Democracy Becomes Woke Tyranny

Tomlinson Talks
12 Sept 202414:30

Summary

TLDRThis video script explores the ideological connections and distinctions between Marxism, liberalism, and Nazism, emphasizing the latter's exclusion from the former two's anthropological views. It delves into the paradox of liberalism, highlighting its inherent contradictions and its struggle to maintain homogeneity while advocating for diversity. The discussion also touches on the foundational thinkers of classical liberalism—Hobbes, Locke, and Rousseau—and their impact on contemporary political ideologies, including the influence on democratic institutions and the concept of the 'general will.' The speaker critiques the liberal state's tendency to act illiberal to preserve democracy and the implications of this for individual freedoms and societal cohesion.

Takeaways

  • 🧠 The speaker argues that there's a connection between Marxist and liberal views on human nature, while Nazism is seen as an outlier.
  • 🔗 The Nazis are often incorrectly equated with those who don't subscribe to a blank slate view of human nature, which is a common belief among both liberals and Marxists.
  • 🗣️ The liberal state faces a paradox where it must act illiberal to protect democracy from those labeled as 'Nazis', as explained by German legal scholar ER Wolfgang Bucken.
  • 🤔 The liberal state's premise is that it can only exist in a homogeneous society where individual freedoms are regulated internally, yet it struggles to ensure this homogeneity without compromising liberalism.
  • 🏛️ Classical liberalism's forefathers, such as Hobbes, Locke, and Rousseau, are examined, with their differing views on human nature and the state's role in society.
  • 🌱 Hobbes is noted for his belief in a strong, centralized state to prevent the 'war of all against all', contrasting with Locke's and Rousseau's more optimistic views of human nature.
  • 🏡 Locke's philosophy emphasizes individual self-ownership and the state's role in ensuring freedom and equality, which can lead to state intervention in private institutions.
  • 🌱 Rousseau is seen as a proto-Marxist with his belief in an egalitarian state of nature and the corrupting influence of civilization, leading to the need for a new political order.
  • 🔄 The script suggests that democracy, as defined by the Enlightenment and liberalism, is about revealing and expressing man's free and equal nature, which is threatened by those who don't believe in this uniform nature.
  • 🌐 The speaker critiques the idea that democracy is under threat from divisive populists who are seen as preventing the realization of a utopian, egalitarian society.

Q & A

  • What is the main argument against equating non-Marxist or non-liberal anthropological views with Nazism?

    -The main argument is that the Nazis represent an extreme and distinct ideology that should not be conflated with other non-Marxist or non-liberal views. It's a misrepresentation to equate any belief that doesn't adhere to the 'blank slate' theory with Nazism, as it oversimplifies and mischaracterizes the complexity of political and philosophical thought.

  • How does the liberal state reconcile acting illiberal against those labeled as 'Nazis' to preserve democracy?

    -The liberal state justifies such actions by claiming that it is necessary to protect the core values of democracy from those who would undermine them. This is based on the premise that certain beliefs or ideologies pose a threat to the democratic order, and thus, the state must take measures to safeguard its foundational principles.

  • What is the paradox presented by German legal scholar ER Wolfgang Buckenmüller?

    -Buckenmüller's paradox is that the liberal secular state relies on premises it cannot guarantee by itself. It requires a homogeneous society for its moral substance, yet it cannot enforce homogeneity without renouncing liberalism. This creates a dilemma for the state as it tries to balance the need for internal regulation with the liberal value of diversity and individual freedom.

  • How does the script connect Hobbes, Locke, and Rousseau to the development of classical liberalism?

    -The script connects Hobbes, Locke, and Rousseau by discussing their views on human nature and the state. Hobbes is noted for his belief in a strong, centralized state to prevent the 'war of all against all.' Locke is recognized for his emphasis on individual self-ownership and the state's role in protecting property rights. Rousseau is acknowledged for his idea of the 'general will' and the notion that humans are naturally good and become corrupted by societal institutions.

  • What is the 'state of nature' according to Hobbes, Locke, and Rousseau?

    -Hobbes describes the state of nature as a 'war of all against all,' driven by the desire for conquest and the avoidance of death. Locke sees it as a state of material privation but with free and equal individuals, while Rousseau views it as a state of material abundance where human greed leads to inequality and conflict.

  • How does the script explain the role of the state in liberal anthropology, particularly in relation to children and education?

    -The script suggests that in liberal anthropology, the state has a role in ensuring that children's natural egalitarian consciousness can flourish. This may involve reducing parental influence over children to prevent the imposition of non-egalitarian values, as seen in the Biden Administration's stance on parental involvement in education and the trans lobby's approach to gender identity.

  • What is the difference between Locke's and Rousseau's views on the role of the state in society?

    -Locke's view is that the state's primary role is to protect property and individual rights, which necessitates checks and balances to prevent state overreach. Rousseau, on the other hand, sees the state as a means to return humans to their natural, egalitarian state, emphasizing the 'general will' and the collective good over individual property rights.

  • How does Rousseau's concept of the 'general will' relate to his political philosophy?

    -Rousseau's 'general will' is the collective rational self-interest of all individuals, which is always right and tends towards the public utility. It is the mechanism by which humans can be returned to their natural state of equality and freedom. The 'general will' is seen as infallible when proper procedures are followed, and it is central to Rousseau's vision of a political order that balances protection, order, freedom, and equality.

  • What does the script suggest about the relationship between democracy and the concept of the 'blank slate' in human nature?

    -The script suggests that democracy, as understood in the context of the 'blank slate' theory, is about revealing and expressing man's free and equal nature in identical fashion. A threat to democracy, in this view, is a threat to the belief in an egalitarian nature that should lead to uniform choices and behaviors, which is a core tenet of both Enlightenment liberalism and Marxism.

  • How does the script characterize the role of divisive rhetoric and populism in democracy?

    -The script characterizes divisive rhetoric and populism as forces that lead people away from their natural, egalitarian choices. It suggests that these elements create a false consciousness that disrupts the uniformity of decision-making that should occur in a true democracy, where all individuals are believed to have identical interests and nature.

Outlines

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📚 The Paradox of Liberalism and Its Critics

This paragraph delves into the ideological connection between Marxist and liberal views on human nature, contrasting them with Nazi beliefs. It critiques the tendency to equate non-Marxist or non-liberal views with Nazism as an oversimplification. The speaker discusses the paradox faced by liberal states in maintaining democracy while acting against those deemed 'Nazi', referencing German legal scholar ER Wolfgang Bucken's work. The paradox is that liberal states rely on a homogeneous society's inner moral regulation yet cannot guarantee this regulation without potentially renouncing liberalism. The narrative also touches on how liberal states handle diversity and the inherent contradictions within liberal ideology, including the works of James Burnham and Patrick Denine, and the influence of classical liberal thinkers like Hobbes, Locke, and Rousseau.

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🏛️ The Evolution of Liberalism and Its Impact on Society

Paragraph 2 examines the evolution of liberal thought from its classical roots in the works of Hobbes, Locke, and Rousseau. It discusses how each philosopher's views on human nature and the state of nature influenced the development of liberal institutions. Hobbes is noted for his belief in a strong state to mediate human conflict, while Locke and Rousseau are recognized for their ideas on individual freedom and equality. The paragraph also explores how liberal principles have been implemented in modern society, particularly in the areas of education and gender identity, leading to controversies over parental rights and the influence of expert opinions. The discussion extends to the similarities and differences between liberal and Marxist approaches to wealth generation and distribution, suggesting that both ideologies share a common end goal but differ in their methods.

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🗳️ Democracy and the General Will: Rousseau's Philosophy

In this paragraph, the focus is on Rousseau's political philosophy, particularly his concept of the 'general will' and its role in democracy. Rousseau's view is that humans are naturally good and that societal institutions corrupt this goodness. He proposes that by returning to a more natural state, humans can achieve a harmonious existence. The paragraph discusses Rousseau's idea of the general will as an infallible expression of the public good, contingent on proper procedures and informed decision-making by the populace. It also touches on Rousseau's distrust of 'learned men' and orators who could sway the populace away from their innate, rational choices. The paragraph concludes by connecting Rousseau's philosophy to contemporary debates about democracy, suggesting that threats to democracy are often perceived as threats to the underlying assumptions of equality and sameness inherent in Enlightenment thought.

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Keywords

💡Marxist

Marxist refers to the political and economic theories of Karl Marx, which advocate for the abolition of social classes and the establishment of a classless society. In the video, the term is used to contrast with liberal understandings of human nature, suggesting that both Marxists and liberals believe in a malleable human nature, unlike Nazis who are positioned as outside this paradigm.

💡Liberal

Liberal, in the context of the video, pertains to a political philosophy that values individual liberty, equality before the law, and a government that is minimally intrusive. The video discusses how liberals, along with Marxists, believe in a 'blank slate' view of human nature, which is challenged by ideologies that do not align with this anthropological perspective.

💡Blank Slate

The 'blank slate' concept refers to the idea that humans are born without inherent traits or inclinations, and are shaped entirely by their experiences and environment. The video uses this term to describe a shared belief among liberals and Marxists about human nature, which is in contrast to the deterministic views of some other ideologies.

💡Anthropology

Anthropology is the study of human societies and cultures and their development. In the video, it is mentioned in relation to different ideological perspectives on human nature. The discussion revolves around how certain political ideologies base their views on particular understandings of what it means to be human.

💡Leviathan

Leviathan, as used in the video, refers to the concept of a powerful, centralized state as described by Thomas Hobbes. It symbolizes an all-powerful sovereign that maintains order and prevents the 'war of all against all,' which is a state of nature where people are in a constant state of conflict without a governing authority.

💡State of Nature

The 'state of nature' is a philosophical concept that describes the condition of living without a formal system of government or law. The video discusses different views on this state, such as Hobbes' view of it as a war of all against all, and Rousseau's view of it as a place of freedom and equality, which is disrupted by the inequalities introduced by civilization.

💡Liberal State

The term 'liberal state' in the video refers to a form of government that upholds liberal principles such as individual rights, democracy, and the rule of law. The discussion points out the paradox of the liberal state needing to act in illiberal ways at times to preserve its values, such as by restricting certain freedoms to protect democracy.

💡Hobbes

Hobbes, or Thomas Hobbes, is a prominent figure in political philosophy known for his work 'Leviathan.' In the video, his views on human nature and the necessity of a strong state to prevent chaos are contrasted with those of other philosophers like Locke and Rousseau, who have a more optimistic view of human nature in a state of nature.

💡Locke

Locke, or John Locke, is referenced in the video as a classical liberal thinker who believed in natural rights, including the right to life, liberty, and property. His philosophy is discussed in the context of self-ownership and the role of the state in protecting these rights, which can lead to intervention in private institutions.

💡Rousseau

Rousseau, or Jean-Jacques Rousseau, is mentioned as a philosopher who believed in an egalitarian state of nature that could be restored through proper social institutions. The video discusses his ideas on the 'general will' and how they relate to the liberal and Marxist traditions, as well as his critique of property and civilization.

💡General Will

The 'general will' is a concept by Rousseau that refers to the collective and rational will of a community, which is always morally right and aims at the common good. The video explains how this concept is central to Rousseau's political philosophy and how it differs from the individual will, with implications for how societies should be governed.

Highlights

The assertion that there is a connective tissue between Marxist and liberal understandings of human nature, contrasting with Nazi ideology.

Critique of equating non-Marxist or non-liberal anthropological views with Nazism.

Discussion on the paradox of the liberal state acting illiberal to preserve democracy.

Reference to German legal scholar ER Wolfgang Bucken's views on the liberal secular state's inherent contradictions.

Analysis of the liberal state's reliance on homogeneous societal values to regulate freedom.

Critique of liberalism's inability to guarantee its own premises without renouncing liberalism.

James Burnham's quote on liberalism as the ideology of Western suicide.

Finley's examination of the three main forefathers of classical liberalism: Hobbes, Locke, and Rousseau.

Hobbes' view on the necessity of an absolute sovereign to mediate conflicts.

Locke's belief in the individual's right to self-ownership and the state's role in ensuring it.

Rousseau's argument that material conditions, not personal relations, drive conflict.

The concept of the 'general will' as a means to return humans to an egalitarian state of nature.

Rousseau's idea that human beings are naturally good and institutions make them wicked.

The notion that democracy is a system revealing man's free and equal nature through identical choices.

Critique of divisive rhetoric and its impact on the democratic process.

The idea that democracy is under threat from those who don't agree with the 'blank slate' anthropology.

The importance of supporting Lotus.com for more in-depth analysis and discussions.

Transcripts

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there is connected tissue between the

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Marxist and the liberal understanding of

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human nature the Nazis are completely

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outside of that and so anyone who is not

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a Marxist or a liberal in their

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anthropology who doesn't believe in the

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blank slate is therefore improperly

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equated with the Nazis because again

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hello hope not hate for watching no I'm

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not a Nazi I'm not a 1930s German it's

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really tiresome but democratism

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liberalism and the marxists who nip at

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its heels all the time either don't or

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will y won't understand that and they're

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both going in the same direction so this

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is how the liberal State can square the

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circle of acting illiberal against

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people that calls Nazis to preserve

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democracy otherwise it encounters the

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Paradox put forward by a German legal

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scholar ER Wulf gang bucken Fedder and

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he wrote the liberal secular State lives

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on premises that it cannot guarantee by

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itself on one side it can subsist only

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if the freedom it consents to its

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citizens is regulated from within inside

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the moral substance of individuals of a

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homogeneous society on the other side it

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is not able to guarantee these forces of

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inner regulation a homogeneous society

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without itself renouncing liberalism so

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it can't act on behalf of an ingr

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preference of one particular conception

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of the good of one particular people of

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a culture of religion of a history and

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so it allows All Peoples from anywhere

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to make contact with

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its educational institutions and its

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material prosperity in the hopes that

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they will be converted to egalitarian

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liberalism and so it relies on certain

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truths being self-evident to certain

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peoples like the homogeneous Christian

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Englishmen of the of the American

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founding fathers that are not as

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self-evident to other people but it

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can't admit they're not self-evident

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because otherwise it admits that there

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are competing conceptions of the good

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there is a friend enemy distinction that

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there are insurmountable barriers to

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certain people or even certain peoples

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different nations different cultures

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different tribes I think there a good

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word to use it um just believing what we

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all believe so

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it can't guarantee its own success this

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is why James Burnham said

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liberalism is the ideology of Western

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suicide so back to

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Finley I know it's a big charge to level

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at liberalism but I think Finley

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retraces these steps very well as does

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Patrick Denine in his first book why

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liberalism failed I haven't read regime

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change yet I know it has some strange

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findings about doubling the size of

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Congress maybe I'll cover Denine at some

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point we'll be good to chat to him

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actually eventually but anyway I'm

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getting ahead of myself so Finley looks

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at the three main forefathers of

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Classical liberalism she admits montue

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in her book by the way but she looks at

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Hobbs Lo and rouso and draw some

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connective tissue we already mentioned

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Hobs here in relation to Schmidt but her

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summary of Hobs is that Hobbs obviously

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believed in an all-encompassing

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Leviathan state with an absolute

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Sovereign Mona his head and the only

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means by which conflicts could be

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mediated was this state the the Bellum

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omum Contra omnes the war of all against

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all only the Leviathan could stop him

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and that war of all Against All Is Man's

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state of nature so he establishes the

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idea of the state of nature he doesn't

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agree on its conditions with lock and

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rouso who essentially are in agreement

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that it's a kind of Garden of Eden

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narrative um Lo believed the state of

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nature was one of material privation but

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that men were free and equal rouso

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believed it was one of material

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abundance and that man's internal greed

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rendered him away from freedom of

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equality freedom and equality into a

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kind of War of all against all and the

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institutions were set up to mediate this

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and you just need sufficiently good

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institutions to put man back in theate

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nature but anyway hobbs' anthropology

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was that man was driven by libido

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dominandi the desire for conquest and

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the avoidance of death so subjugating

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the population's competing conceptions

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of the good to The Sovereign to quote

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reduce all their Wills by plurality of

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voices onto one will which is as much to

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say to appoint one man or assembly of

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men to Bear their person seems to be the

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origin idea of Representative governance

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within liberalism so Hobbs even though

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he has disagreements with local Russo

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has connected tissue to the Democratic

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institutions that were birthed out of

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liberalism and the anthropology of

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liberalism that lock and Russo later

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built on so on lock Lo believed the

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quote individual's primary source of

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rights is his or her right to self-

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ownership so any limit to self-governing

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Authority must have its influence

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reduced so that sets up a mandate for

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the liberal state to intervene in

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private social institutions that can be

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defined as infringing on your rights for

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example child is not actually Born Free

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and equal they're born in extric

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dependent on their parents they're in a

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state of dependence so what we have to

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do is have a moral framework that puts

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the obligation of the parent to act as

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if the child could have chosen and

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therefore they best be the best possible

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parent so the child would have chosen

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them if they could have instead if the

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liberal anthropology is that we're all

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free and equal If the child is

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inextricably dependent then it becomes

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the role of the state to reduce the

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influence of the parents over the child

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to allow the child's natural egalitarian

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Consciousness to flourish this is why

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you get the Biden Administration coming

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in and saying parents are not the

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primary stakeholders in their children's

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education this is why you get the trans

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Lobby coming and crowbar away their

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child from the parents who are skeptical

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of their child's sudden gender

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transition and giving them to a glitter

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family of appointed LGBT experts instead

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who can reveal their true gendered

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Consciousness from the false one that is

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imposed upon them by a gender binary

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Society

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this all flows Downstream from the

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individual will concept of liberalism

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and this is how certain Marxist

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theorists have played with these ideas

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but these theories haven't been

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successful in explicitly Marxist

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societies like Venezuela or the USSR or

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Nicaragua etc

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etc lock wrote as well the chief end of

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civil society is the preservation of

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property so then we only need to

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generate abundance which is privation

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that's a reason why we left the state of

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nature in the first place in order to

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allow the state to take up the business

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of reverting us to the state of nature

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to ensure that no compromise between

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freedom or equality is needed to ensure

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that man is not just subsisting and

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trying to Stave off starvation illness

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and death if we have the means to get

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past those with the technological power

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of the Scientific Revolution and liberal

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political Enlightenment then suddenly

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the business of the state becomes

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returning us to the state of nature and

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so Lo's liberalism actually only really

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differs from Marxism in its means of

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generating and redistributing wealth but

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if a button were to be pressed tomorrow

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and we had the Communist Utopia Lock's

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liberal compromises wouldn't be

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necessary and he couldn't argue against

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it and so you get protom Marxist rouso

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coming out of the liberal tradition and

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I know lots of people have contested the

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idea that lusso is a liberal but and we

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went over this on our rip 10 at media um

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culture War podcast with Phil leonti and

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Tim Paul on liberalism actually Russo's

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Romanticism as Finley writes in

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here has connective tissue with the

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rationalism of the other liberal

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thinkers so she writes while rouso

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challenges many of the enlightenment's

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assumptions he ultimately shares its

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fundamental epistemology his emphasis on

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radical autonomy supported by a socially

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atomistic anthropology is largely

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consistent with Enlightenment

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voluntarism and rationalism so his

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belief that human beings have an

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egalitarian state of nature that can be

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revealed by throwing off the shackles of

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civilization is similar to the

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antagonistic relationship that locks

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anthropology sets up with the

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institutions of the state and with

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culture I mean the individual in the

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state always exist in conflict in locks

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anthropology this is why the loan

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inspired American founding fathers put

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checks and balances on the state because

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they didn't want them to infringe on the

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rights of the individual but these were

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only

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necessary because property needed to be

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guaranteed if you can develop a

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abundance of property and that no longer

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needs to be negotiated then the state is

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Obsolete and Mankind will come to the

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same conclusion over and over right so

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it doesn't matter whether or not they do

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this through emotional reasoning per

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Russo or rational reasoning through Lo

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the end destination is still the same

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Russo's novel contribution was to

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propose a political philosophy that

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provide the protection and Order

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promised by Leviathan while preserving

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Lo's notion of individual freedom and

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also equality according to Finley in the

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social contract R writes men are not

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naturally enemies for the simple reason

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that men living in their original state

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of Independence do not have sufficiently

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con constant relationships among

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themselves to bring about either a state

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of peace or a state of War it is a

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relationship between things and not that

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between men that brings about war and

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this state of War cannot come into

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existence from simple personal relations

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but only from real relations in this

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sense Russo anticipates Marx's

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philosophy as historical materialism

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binarily entury basically the material

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iniquities cause conflict rather than

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the innate tendency for man to be fallen

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and capricious and emotional and so

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relationships between people don't cause

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conflict only not enough stuff does

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external that is material conditions

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Drive the acquisitive and self centered

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impulse in the second discourse on

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equality Russo says the first person who

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having enclosed a plot of land took it

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into his head to say this is mine and

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found people simple enough to believe

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him was the true founder of Civil

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Society It Is by accident that human

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natural goodness degenerates historical

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circumstances and social institutions

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however need not affect human

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flourishing altering the way in which a

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human being assembles in a community can

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to a great extent restore our original

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goodness Russo believes and then

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perpetuate this through the new

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political order this is the idea of the

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general will in Russo's mind procedures

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are part of the ideal of the general

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will and are in some ways Inseparable s

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substance quote the general will is

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always right Russo says and always tends

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towards the public

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utility so long as the procedures to

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enact it are followed in the absence of

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a proper procedure the general will is

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impossible so the general will is the

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infallible action in the presumed

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rational self-interest of all human

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beings with an identical nature so the

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general will is the means of returning

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human beings to their egalitarian state

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of nature it was at this moment Russo

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recalls that he realized the key to his

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political philosophy quote that man is

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naturally good and that it is from our

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institutions alone that men become

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Wicked end quote it is because of our

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underlying natural goodness he believes

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that we are all capable of participating

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in the general will quote if when a

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sufficiently informed populist

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deliberates Russo says the citizens were

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to have no communication among

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themselves the general will would always

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result from the large number of small

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differences and the deliberation would

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always be good the two criteria the

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populace be sufficiently informed and

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the citizens abstain from communication

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constitute what might be considered the

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Republican and Democratic elements in

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Russo's philosophy the general will one

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of the reasons that Russo distrusts

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quote learned men and orators is their

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tendency to lead us away from this Inner

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Voice through refined language and

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sophistry quote Man's first language the

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most universal the most energetic and

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the only language he needed before it

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was necessary to persuade men assembled

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together is the Cry of nature

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AKA if you leave men alone they will

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make identical choices it's just culture

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it's just the whispering of bad faith

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actors populists pedaling their divisive

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rhetoric that priz them apart from

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making the same reliable Progressive

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conclusion

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and so democracy is an exercise in

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everyone making identical Choice over

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and over again the only reason they

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wouldn't make that choice voting for

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Biden voting for Kamala voting for

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Labour voting for The Green Party in

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Germany the only reason they wouldn't

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make their choice is because of divisive

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racist populists like Trump the

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afd Migel frage coming in stoking

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Division and giving them a false

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consciousness that makes them think

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they're actually not equal they're

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actually not identical and rendering

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them them away from the Utopia that is

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just always Within Reach but snatched

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away from them are those divisive

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populists with awful agendas those evil

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office who might suggest that there

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might be competing conceptions of the

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good that the giant Global State can't

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just make go away by ensuring everyone

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plays nice so democracy this is a

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definition I've come up with having red

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Finley democracy when they say threat

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democracy means something like the

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system by which Man's Free and equal

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nature is revealed to him and expressed

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in identical

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fashion

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democracy is returning man to the state

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of nature so a threat democracy means a

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threat to the blank slate it means a

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threat to the anthropology of the

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Enlightenment of liberalism and Marxism

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alike it means a threat to our ability

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the ruling political media and Academia

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Elite

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to administer the minds of men to tell

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them they have an egalitarian nature

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that they should be making the same

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Choice over and over and to put on Rails

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politics with certain policies and

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agendas that is presumed to be in

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everyone's

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self-interest democracy is under threat

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from people that don't agree that we all

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want exactly the same thing because

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we're all fundamentally the same at a

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biological

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theological ideological

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level it's the blank slate enacted

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