Why Perfectionism Is Ruining Your Life
Summary
TLDRThe video script discusses the contrasting attitudes of two hypothetical students, Harry and Percy, towards feedback and perfectionism. It highlights the negative impacts of perfectionism, such as decreased productivity and increased burnout, and contrasts it with the positive approach of 'healthy strivers'. The script also explores the reasons behind the rise of perfectionism and offers practical tips for overcoming it, including setting reasonable standards, embracing failure, stepping outside comfort zones, and adopting 'nice goals'. The conversation with Professor Thomas Curran, an expert on perfectionism, provides further insights into this widespread issue.
Takeaways
- đŻ Perfectionism exists on a spectrum, with most people falling somewhere in the middle, and it's linked to rising levels among young people.
- đ« Perfectionism does not lead to better performance or productivity; in fact, it can lead to decreased effort after setbacks and increased procrastination.
- đââïž Non-perfectionists, or 'healthy strivers,' tend to enjoy the process of working towards goals and are not deterred by failure, unlike perfectionists.
- đ The perfectionism trap stems from a sense of deficiency and leads to a negative spiral of ever-increasing standards, failure, and shame.
- đĄ Overcoming perfectionism involves setting reasonable standards, embracing the learning process from failure, and stepping outside of one's comfort zone.
- đ The concept of 'diminishing returns' applies to effort and productivity, suggesting that working beyond a certain point can lead to decreased effectiveness and potential burnout.
- đ€čââïž Learning new things, such as through interactive platforms like Brilliant, can help combat perfectionism by focusing on the joy of learning rather than the outcome.
- đ Changing the mindset from 'should' to 'want to' or 'feel like' can help reduce the pressure and expectations associated with perfectionism.
- đą Viewing failure as a form of success by redefining it as a learning opportunity can help in breaking free from perfectionist tendencies.
- đŻ Setting 'nice goals' (NE term input-based, controllable, and energizing) can be beneficial for beginners or those struggling with perfectionism, as opposed to strict SMART goals.
Q & A
What is the main difference between Harry and Percy in terms of their reactions to feedback?
-Harry appreciates constructive criticism and is willing to learn from his mistakes, while Percy sees feedback as a failure, holds himself to excessively high standards, and worries about others' opinions.
How does the speaker describe the concept of perfectionism?
-The speaker describes perfectionism as a spectrum, with some people being more perfectionistic than others. It is not a black or white concept, and most people fall somewhere in the middle of this spectrum.
What does the study of student athletes cycling trials reveal about perfectionism and effort?
-The study reveals that students with high levels of perfectionism decreased their effort after their first failure, whereas non-perfectionists maintained the same level of effort.
How does perfectionism affect productivity and success?
-Perfectionism can lead to decreased productivity and success because it often results in overworking and making unnecessary sacrifices, which can lead to burnout and a negative impact on performance.
What is the 'perfectionism trap' and how does it stem from a place of deficit?
-The perfectionism trap is a negative spiral of decline and self-defeat that comes from a sense of not being good enough. Perfectionists feel they must prove their worth and excel, leading to excessively high standards that set them up for failure.
How does the speaker suggest overcoming perfectionism?
-The speaker suggests several ways to overcome perfectionism, including setting reasonable standards, accepting failure as a part of the learning process, stepping outside of one's comfort zone, and reframing failure as a success.
What is the relationship between perfectionism and imposter syndrome?
-Imposter syndrome is quite strong among perfectionists, particularly those from lower socio-economic backgrounds. They often doubt their abilities and feel like they need to prove themselves constantly, fearing they are not deserving of their achievements.
How does socially prescribed perfectionism differ from self-oriented perfectionism?
-Socially prescribed perfectionism comes from external expectations, such as from colleagues, teachers, or parents, whereas self-oriented perfectionism is driven by internal beliefs about needing to be perfect and better than others.
What is the concept of 'Wabi Sabi' and how does it relate to overcoming perfectionism?
-Wabi Sabi is a Japanese philosophy that embraces the beauty of imperfection and the natural flow of life. It encourages simplicity, appreciation of nature, and acceptance of challenges, which can help in overcoming perfectionism by promoting contentment with the natural state of things, including failures and setbacks.
How does the speaker recommend setting goals to combat perfectionism?
-The speaker recommends setting vague or 'open goals' rather than rigid, specific 'SMART goals' for beginners or those struggling with perfectionism. This approach can make the process feel less pressured and more enjoyable, reducing the fear of failure.
What is the 'Fear Setting' exercise by Tim Ferriss and how can it help with stepping outside of one's comfort zone?
-The 'Fear Setting' exercise by Tim Ferriss is a journaling practice that helps individuals identify, analyze, and confront their fears. By understanding the potential consequences of not stepping outside their comfort zone, individuals can gain the motivation to embrace discomfort and take action.
Outlines
đ Understanding Perfectionism vs. Healthy Striving
This paragraph introduces two hypothetical students, Harry and Percy, who embody different reactions to feedback and failure. While Harry appreciates constructive criticism and learns from mistakes, Percy views feedback as failure and holds himself to impossibly high standards. The key difference is that Harry is a healthy striver, whereas Percy is a perfectionist. The speaker discusses a conversation with Professor Thomas Curran, an expert on perfectionism, who explains that perfectionism exists on a spectrum and that levels of perfectionism are increasing, especially among young people. The paragraph sets the stage for a discussion on why perfectionism is not beneficial and how to overcome it.
đŽââïž The Myth of Perfectionism and Success
The speaker challenges the assumption that perfectionism leads to increased productivity and success. Despite common examples of successful perfectionists like Serena Williams and Steve Jobs, the data shows no correlation between perfectionism and performance. A study involving student athletes is cited, where those with high levels of perfectionism did not try as hard after failing, whereas non-perfectionists maintained their effort. This illustrates that perfectionists may avoid further failure, leading to procrastination and decreased performance. The speaker also notes that perfectionists may work too hard, leading to burnout and less success.
đ The Perfectionism Trap and Its Origins
The speaker delves into the origins of perfectionism, describing it as stemming from a sense of deficiency and the need to prove oneself. This leads to setting excessively high standards, which often results in failure and feelings of shame, guilt, and anxiety. These negative emotions cause perfectionists to set even higher standards, creating a vicious cycle. The speaker contrasts this with healthy strivers who enjoy the process of striving for goals. The paragraph also touches on the concept of imposter syndrome, which is common among perfectionists, particularly those from working-class backgrounds who feel they must constantly prove their worth in a middle-class world.
đ Overcoming Perfectionism: Practical Tips
The speaker offers several tips for overcoming perfectionism. The first is to set reasonable standards and start somewhere, using the concept of the law of diminishing returns to illustrate the point that working beyond a certain point can lead to decreased productivity. The second tip is to surrender and accept that failure and setbacks are part of life, drawing parallels with the Japanese philosophy of wabi-sabi, which encourages acceptance of imperfection. The third tip is to reframe failure as a learning opportunity and a form of success. The fourth tip is to step outside of one's comfort zone regularly to build confidence and break through perfectionism. Finally, the speaker suggests setting 'nice goals' (NE term input-based, controllable, and energizing) for beginners or those struggling with perfectionism, as opposed to specific 'smart goals'.
Mindmap
Keywords
đĄPerfectionism
đĄConstructive Criticism
đĄProcrastination
đĄBurnout
đĄImposter Syndrome
đĄSocial Comparison
đĄHealthy Striving
đĄLaw of Diminishing Returns
đĄWabi-Sabi
đĄFear Setting
đĄSMART Goals
Highlights
Two hypothetical students, Harry and Percy, are introduced as examples of different reactions to feedback and perfectionism.
Harry represents a healthy striver who appreciates constructive criticism, whereas Percy is a perfectionist who sees feedback as failure.
Perfectionism is a spectrum, with most people falling in the middle rather than being extreme perfectionists or non-perfectionists.
There is a growing trend of increasing perfectionism levels, particularly among young people.
Perfectionism does not lead to increased productivity or success, contrary to common assumptions.
A study involving student athletes showed that perfectionists may decrease effort after initial failure.
Perfectionists may work too hard, leading to burnout and decreased productivity.
Perfectionism stems from a sense of deficit, leading to a negative spiral of high standards, failure, and shame.
Imposter syndrome is strongly associated with perfectionism, particularly from socially prescribed perfectionism.
Social media contributes to feelings of inadequacy and perfectionism through upward social comparison.
There are ways to overcome perfectionism, such as setting reasonable standards and embracing the learning process from failures.
The concept of 'should' creates a divide between our current and ideal selves, which can be bridged by using words like 'want to' or 'feel like'.
Journaling can help overcome negative feelings and perfectionism by providing a space for self-reflection.
Stepping outside of one's comfort zone regularly is crucial for personal development and overcoming perfectionism.
Setting vague or 'nice goals' can be beneficial for beginners or those struggling with perfectionism, as opposed to rigid 'smart goals'.
The video discusses ways to reframe failure as a success and accept imperfection as part of the human experience.
Interview with Professor Thomas Curran, a world-leading expert on perfectionism, provides further insights into the topic.
Transcripts
so I want you to meet two hypothetical
students we've got Harry and Percy now
both Harry and Percy are ambitious and
conscientious and hardworking they enjoy
cting goals for themselves and they feel
motivated when they make progress
towards them but when they get feedback
on their work they react quite
differently Harry appreciates
constructive criticism and he's willing
to learn from his mistakes but Percy
only sees this feedback as a failure
Percy holds himself to excessively high
standards he's ashamed of his mistakes
and he worries a lot about what others
around him will think now the key
difference between these two students is
that Harry is is a healthy striber and
pery on the other hand is a
perfectionist so if you're anything like
me you can probably relate to this
feeling of perfectionism and feeling
this need to be perfect in the things
that we do and I recently had a really
interesting conversation about
perfectionism with Professor Thomas
current who is a world leading expert on
perfectionism at the London School of
Economics perfectionism is not kind of a
black or white it's not I am a
perfectionist or you aren't a
perfectionist but it's really you know
where we sit on the perfectionism
spectrum and some of us will be more
perfectionist IC on that Spectrum some
will be a little less most will be in
the middle and the big contribution I
think of my work is showing that that
middle bit of the perfectionism Spectrum
where most of us sit is slowly creeping
upwards and we're seeing growing levels
of perfectionism over time particularly
among young people so in this video
we're going to go through why being a
perfectionist is generally not actually
a good thing and then in the second part
of the video we're going to look at some
of the ways that we can overcome
perfectionism and strive towards being
more like a healthy striving Harry and
less like a perfectionist
Percy now on the surface it's easy to
assume that perfectionism leads to
increased productivity and more success
compared to those people who don't see
themselves as perfectionists but this is
not true at all Serena Williams Victoria
Pendleton Steve Jobs Demi lvat you know
all these people who self-confessed
Perfection made it to the top of their
professions clearly really talented and
high achieving and therefore it must be
the perfectionism that that propelled
them there when we look at the data
however we find no relationship between
perfectionism and performance and this
is really curious because they work so
hard they put everything into their
activities and yet they don't seem to
perform any better why is that so to
help explain this let's look at this
study of student athletes which involved
cycling trials the students were split
up into two groups now within this group
of students some of them had high levels
of perfectionism directed towards
themselves and the rest didn't based on
a survey that they did at the start and
all these students were told to cycle
for 6 minutes and to try to beat their
personal best time but the researchers
in the study were very sneaky and so by
manipulating the information that was
shown to the students on the screen the
test was set up in a way that ensured
that everyone would fail to meet their
personal targets now the students were
then asked to try the trial for a second
time and the really interesting thing
was that the students who had high
levels of perfectionism did not try as
hard on the second round or in other
words after their first failure their
effort actually decreased whereas for
the group that had the
non-perfectionists in it their effort
stayed the same so this can be explained
by the fact that perfectionists find it
really hard when things start to go
wrong which then translates into
behaviors that avoid further failure
otherwise known as procrastination so
being a perfectionist tends not to
actually make you perform better it
tends to make you perform worse if
you've had a setback but then the second
reason why perfectionism is not
associated with better performance is
because although perfectionists tend to
work very hard they probably work too
hard and this means that they often tend
to start making compromises in their
life like it's very easy to miss a few
hours of sleep just to work on an
assignment to try and make it perfect or
spending way too much time on that
presentation at work to make it that
much better but ultimately even though
this might look good on paper these
sacrifices are what lead a perfectionist
towards less productivity less success
and way more burnout okay so now let's
talk about the perfectionism trap now in
my conversation with Thomas he really
emphasized where perfectionism stems
from and how it traps us in a negative
spiral of Decline and self-defeat it
comes from a place of deficit it's a
sense that I must move through the world
proving to other people that I'm good
enough so in order to do that I must
Excel I must be perfect I must have high
standards
okay but what we're doing is we're
setting ourselves up for failure because
those excessive standards are too high
so when perfectionists set their
standards really high it means that
there is a higher chance that those
standards are not met or in other words
failure this failure then causes
feelings of Shame and guilt and anxiety
and stress and low self-esteem which
means they overcompensate by setting
themselves even higher standards next
time and this Spiral goes on and on
getting worse and worse each time and
this can actually be really hard for a
perfectionist to escape from and It
ultimately stems from this deficit
thinking or feeling like you are not
enough if on the other hand you are a
healthy striver and you're trying to set
a new squat personal best in the gym for
example then you'll enjoy the process of
trying to get there and you'll enjoy the
process even on the days where you feel
like you're a lot weaker than in your
last gym session whereas as a
perfectionist you'll probably set a new
personal best goal that is well beyond
your means and you'll feel like a
failure every time you can't lift that
weight or when you see someone else
squatting a much heavier weight than you
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third reason why perfectionism ruins
your life is imposter syndrome imposter
phenomenon is quite strong among
perfectionists particularly
perfectionists that have come from you
know I've come from a working class
background into a middle class world and
you often doubt yourself you wonder if
you deserve to be there you wonder if
your works of a certain standard you
look around and see people are doing so
much better than you or how you think
are doing so much better than you and
you and you think inside I have to prove
every day that I'm good enough that I
deserve to be here and that I'm trying
to disguise this kind of flawed and
inadequate person that I think I am
inside so imposter syndrome correlates
with what we call socially prescribed
perfectionism more so than self-oriented
perfectionism so when I say I'm not good
enough or I need to be better this is
self-oriented perfectionism whereas
socially prescribed perfectionism
originates in a social environment that
is highly expectant so I would say
everyone around me wants me to get this
new job or I cannot fail this exam and
let my family down there are other
people's expectations on me and this
socially prescribed perfectionism can
come from those around you like work
colleagues and teachers and parents and
basically everyone you interact with but
it's also important to be aware that we
do live unfortunately in a highly
competitive Society it's a society
that's designed to make us feel
deficient in some way and therefore
cultivates this feeling of perfectionism
so it can be really hard to escape these
feelings of needing to be perfect for
those around you and as with all of
these things a classic culprate is
social media now research shows that
when perfectionists compare themselves
to others who seem better than them on
social media they feel less satisfied
and confident in their own life and this
is what researchers call upward social
comparison which leads to higher levels
of dissatisfaction and lower levels of
confidence but thankfully this story
does have a more positive side because
there are many ways that we can try and
overcome perfectionism which is what
we're going to talk about in the second
half of this video tip number one set
reasonable standards and start
somewhere and so Thomas talks about
setting reasonable standards here in the
context of writing an essay I just say
just get just just write something write
a letter to your mom like just get words
on a on a on a on a computer screen and
start the process it doesn't even have
to be related to the task at hand
because if you can start writing
it's a nice note to your mom but also it
gets you in that kind of frame of mind
where you're putting words on paper and
then begin and then you know like you
say it doesn't have to be uh you don't
even have to consult the literature just
put down your thoughts on this
particular topic right and then begin to
iterate now there's a concept in
economics that is directly related to
what we're talking about here the law of
diminishing returns this means that up
to a certain point there is an increase
in output with increasing input or
effort but after that point called the
point of diminishing returns the
increases in output grow smaller and
smaller with the same increase in input
there also comes a point where outputs
start to even decline the point of
negative returns and this applies
perfectly to working hours for example
like let's say you're working 40 hours a
week at your job or your studies or
whatever the thing might be those first
40 hours are probably going to be more
effective than the next 40 hours like
your 80th hour is probably not going to
be anywhere near as productive as your
20th hour because you're just getting
tired and actually if you keep working
past the 90th and the 100th hour you'll
probably get to a point of negative
returns I.E you'll be doing actively bad
work rather than very good work and so
if you're a perfectionist then you might
often find yourself in that dangerous
territory past the point of diminishing
and maybe even negative returns and
that's why it's always important to set
our standards to a reasonable level and
not set them too high and the way I like
to think of this is basically lower the
bar whenever I feel like I'm
procrastinating or feeling too
perfectionist about something I remind
myself I have to lower the bar and this
sounds bad it sounds like oh my God
you're embracing mediocrity it's like
yes I am embracing mediocrity because
otherwise I would allow perfect to be
the enemy of good perf ISM and
procrastination would then hold me back
now there's two main reasons why you
should lower the bar and just set
reasonable standards rather than high
standards the first one is that if you
don't set your standards too high to
begin with then it's a lot easier to
start now when it comes to
procrastination as I've written about in
my book and talked about at norum by the
way you should check out my book if you
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that like getting started with things is
often the hardest part procrastination
is a problem with getting started rather
than a problem with doing the thing once
you've gotten started and perfectionism
often leads to procrastination because
perfectionists are so afraid of failure
and would much prefer to avoid failing
and so they don't even start in the
first place therefore what we do is we
lower our standards we lower the bar and
that lets us simply start somewhere and
reason number two for lowering your
standards is that if you set reasonable
standards rather than very high
standards you will also lower the risk
of burnout and so really the way we do
this is that for whatever we're working
on we try and establish the standard of
good enough like what does good enough
mean to you in this specific case and
then once you've met your expectations
of the task and you have satisfed ified
your level of good enough then you can
stop and move on to something else now
it is okay sometimes to set your
expectations a little higher and to
enter the zone of diminishing returns
because sometimes you do want to
challenge yourself and go above and
beyond what's expected of you but it's
important to remember that a we can't do
this with everything so we shouldn't try
because that's a recipe for Burnout and
B especially if you're new to something
or you have a tendency to procrastinate
on the thing high standards are actually
holding you back rather than serving you
in that context by the way one of my
favorite things to do to overcome these
sorts of negative feelings that lead to
things like procrastination and
perfection m is journaling and because
I'm weird I like to collect journaling
prompts and journaling methods and
because people always ask me about it
I've put them all into this journaling
Hub which is completely free for you to
access it'll be linked down below you
just put in your email and then you'll
get linked to this like massive database
of journaling prompts and every time I
come up with a new prompt or discover a
new prompt I added to the database it's
completely free you might as well it's
linked down below all right so tip
number two for overcoming perfectionism
is surrendering and simply letting life
happen sometimes for no good reason we
fail sometimes things happen to us that
we have have no control over and
accepting that fact is really the first
big step in breaking through
perfectionism so letting life happen is
all about being okay with failure and
not trying to avoid it it's also about
being okay with not always making
progress towards a goal but instead
being happy and content with no progress
or even regression which does happen
sometimes now this idea is similar to
the concept of Wabi Sai which is a
Japanese philosophy with Origins and
Buddhism wabisabi is all about accepting
the beauty and imperfection and
surrendering to the constant and flows
of life and the philosophy encourages us
to seek out a simple life appreciate
nature around us accept the challenges
we're faced with and try as best as we
can to live in the moment now if you
think about it there are many
connections today between psychology and
the teachings of Buddhism and we can
trace a lot of this back to the work of
Karen horny who was a psychoanalyst in
the first half of the 1900s and she
sought out the study of Buddhist
principles in her late life
interestingly she also coins the phrase
the tyranny of the shs so when we say
things like I should go to the gym today
or I should make more progress on that
work task or I should spend a little bit
longer on that thing we automatically
create a divide with our imperfect real
self on one hand and then this idealized
perfect self on the other and the thing
that bridges that Gap is this idea of
should I should be more like this other
person and so as a very useful tangible
action point whenever you find yourself
using the word should try and change
that word in your own mind for me
personally I always try and replace the
word should with the word want to or
feel like or could choose to so instead
of I should go to the gym today I could
choose to go to the gym today or I
really want to go to the gym today and
there is something nice about replacing
that should that removes that sense of
coercion and removes this like contrast
between our current self and our perfect
self tip number three to overcome
perfectionism is to try and reframe
failure as success always remember that
whatever you do failure is not
humiliating it's humanizing it's normal
and natural to fail in fact we will fail
way more than we will succeed you have
one success it's followed by infinite
amounts of failure now one way to think
about this is that kind of this idea of
dealing with failure is something that
you level up at over time like most of
us start at level one where we view
failure as being a really bad thing
failure is really bad then at some point
in our life we graduate to level two
which is this idea that huh failing is
actually normal it is normal to fail
then at some point we graduate to number
three which is hey failure is a learning
process I learn something from the thing
and at some point we might graduate to
level four which is just viewing failure
as a success like it's absolutely
fantastic that I failed because now I've
got more data I've learned some things
you know a bad day for the ego is a good
day for the soul all of that kind of fun
stuff and so a question to ask yourself
is where are you currently on this level
1 to four spectrum of how you think
about failure and what would it take to
get to the next level tip number four
for beating perfectionism is to step
outside of your comfort zone fairly
regularly those are really important
things to take away because those things
that you can learn that help you develop
that help you become more confident and
and importantly help you break through
your perfectionism is by taking those
small steps out of your comfort zone now
if we think back to Harry and Percy
Percy the perfectionist displayed an
aversion to failure and criticism but if
we really want to overcome perfectionism
then we should definitely challenge
these thoughts by putting ourselves in
situation where there is a high risk of
failure and that means stepping outside
of our comfort zone for example when I
realized that I wasn't particularly
charismatic and wanted to improve my
Charisma levels I realized that I'd be
stepping outside of my comfort zone by
forcing myself to put my hand up in
every single classroom session or every
lecture medical school and to ask some
sort of question and that was good
because initially it was really scary
but it helped me get outside of my
comfort zone and made me realize huh
it's not so bad no one actually cares
starting this YouTube channel in 2017
you know it's kind of weird walking
around University with a big big ass
camera filming people my name is Ali
medical student you should look me up
and now you know vlogging in public is
still kind of scary but I've been doing
this for like 7 years now so I it's
definitely squarely within my comfort
zone now this might go without saying
but stepping outside our comfort zone is
inherently uncomfortable it might not
feel good even though book is called
feel good productivity it's not that
every single moment of your life has to
feel good and has to feel comfortable
sometimes stepping outside of our
comfort zone and embracing that
discomfort drives feeling good in the
long term one exercise I find really
helpful here is Tim Ferris fear setting
exercise which is part of the journaling
Hub that we've talked about so you can
check that down below if you feel like
it and then tip number five for
overcoming perfectionism is to sketch
out your goals if you're especially
perfectionistic having rigid firm and
and what are often lofty goals is going
to be really problematic because you may
not meet them and you may not meet them
for you know no good reason and I like
to think of this as having like vague
sketchy goals rather than very specific
goals and there is some evidence about
this that I do actually talk about in my
book where basically researchers have
tested this difference between specific
goals and more vague goals in the
context of trying to encourage people to
do exercise and they have people set
different goals before they walk for 6
minutes now some of the people set smart
goals which are specific measurable
achievable realistic and time bound and
you would think that their performance
would be best but the distance that they
walked was no different to those who set
what we call open goals now open goals
are those that are designed to be
non-specific open-ended and exploratory
so saying something like I'll see how
far I can walk in 6 minutes instead of I
need to walk 600 m in 6 minutes now
interestingly open goals could even be
better than smart goals in some cases
because in this study these goals meant
people increased their perceived
performance and this can ultimately make
you feel more optimistic and more
confident and in fact those who said the
open goals were more keen to repeat the
walking test compared to those who set
smart goals now the way I like to use
this information is that you know smart
goals are still very useful but if
you're a beginner at something if you're
new to it or if you're struggling with
perfectionism actually making your goal
less smart making it less specific less
ambitious and more vague often that is
the thing that will help you beat the
perfectionism and get started with the
thing and then yes of course if you're
trying to improve your standards and get
better over time smart goals are super
helpful but if not then I like to use
something called nice goals n IC goals
which I talk about in chapter 4 I think
of my book nice stands for NE term input
based controllable and energizing so
what can I do in the next week NE term
what's an input that I can control so
how many steps I walk is an input I can
control whereas like my position in the
race is an output that's outside of my
control because it depends on other
people so NE term input based
controllable and energizing how can I
make the process energizing and
enjoyable so hopefully there was at
least something that you took away from
this video to help combat perfectionism
and if you're interested in the whole
interview I did with Thomas Curran who's
an expert in the topic you can check
that out on my podcast right over here
thank you so much for watching and I'll
see you next time bye-bye
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