Samsung OLED a JOKE in 2024? - S90D & Don’t Buy S95D
Summary
TLDRThe video discusses a report from a South Korean newspaper suggesting Samsung may be mixing last-generation OLED panels with Quantum Dot OLED panels in their S9D TVs across various sizes. The speaker expresses disbelief and disapproval, comparing it to a 'panel lottery' from the S90C model. They argue that the two panel technologies are significantly different, with Quantum OLED offering brightness and color advantages, while W OLED provides better text clarity and ambient light handling. The speaker is concerned about Samsung selling these as the same product without transparency and urges the company to clarify, advocating for industry pushback to prevent a decline in TV quality akin to the monitor industry's issues.
Takeaways
- 📰 A South Korean newspaper, The L, reported that Samsung might be mixing last-generation Evo W OLED panels with Quantum Dot OLED panels in their S9D series TVs.
- 🎲 This practice, if true, would be unprecedented and could lead to a 'panel lottery' for consumers, affecting sizes from 42 to 77 inches.
- 🚫 The speaker strongly disapproves of this potential practice, stating it's 'totally unacceptable' for Samsung to mix panel technologies without informing consumers.
- 📈 The S90C series had a panel variation issue where some models had brighter panels, but this was within the same technology base.
- 💡 Samsung's response to inquiries was vague, hinting at the possibility of mixed panels but not confirming it, which the speaker interprets as a likely confirmation.
- 📺 The differences between W OLED and Quantum OLED panels are significant, affecting brightness, uniformity, color volume, and ambient light handling.
- 🌟 The speaker prefers the W OLED for its clearer text and better handling in bright ambient light, despite the Quantum OLED's superior brightness and color.
- 🛒 The speaker advises against purchasing the S90D series due to the potential panel inconsistency and recommends the S95D series, despite its matte coating.
- 🔧 The speaker expresses frustration with Samsung Electronics' product quality control and decisions, contrasting with the advanced technology from Samsung Display.
- ✊ The speaker calls for the TV community to push back against this practice to prevent the TV industry from following the monitor industry's negative trajectory.
Q & A
What is the main concern raised in the script about Samsung's S9D TV?
-The main concern is that Samsung might be mixing last-generation Evo WOLED panels with their Quantum Dot OLED panels in the S9D TV, which could lead to a 'panel lottery' where customers do not know which type of panel they will receive.
Why is the mixing of different panels in the S9D TV considered unacceptable?
-The mixing is considered unacceptable because it could lead to a significant variation in the quality and performance of the TVs, with the WOLED panels and Quantum Dot OLED panels having different characteristics that could affect the viewing experience.
What was the situation with the S90C TV that is mentioned as a precedent?
-With the S90C TV, customers had a 'panel lottery' where they could get either an S95B or S95C panel, with the latter being brighter and potentially less prone to burn-in. However, both were Quantum OLED panels, unlike the proposed mix of WOLED and Quantum Dot OLED panels in the S9D.
What is the difference between WOLED and Quantum Dot OLED panels as discussed in the script?
-WOLED panels are said to have slightly clearer text and better ambient light handling due to the absence of a magenta tint, while Quantum Dot OLED panels are brighter, have better uniformity, and offer better color volume.
What is the concern about the matte coating on Samsung's S95D TV?
-The concern is that the matte coating on the S95D TV might negatively affect the display quality, making it look grainy or 'shitty,' which is a significant drawback for a premium TV.
What is the recommendation for those looking to buy a premium TV at a reasonable cost?
-The S90C is recommended as a premium TV at a reasonable cost, but the script suggests caution due to the potential 'panel lottery' with the S9D.
What was Samsung's response to the reports about panel mixing in their TVs?
-Samsung's response was vague, stating that they are continually evolving their TV portfolio to provide premium experiences, without directly addressing the specific concerns about panel mixing.
What is the call to action for the TV community regarding this issue?
-The call to action is for the TV community to push back against this practice and for Samsung to clarify whether the S90D will be Quantum Dot OLED only, to avoid a situation where customers are uncertain about the quality of the TV they are purchasing.
What is the comparison made between the TV and monitor industry in the script?
-The script compares the potential for the TV industry to become as problematic as the monitor industry, which has had issues with poor quality and expensive prices, and is only now starting to improve.
What is the mention of Ruo's HDMI cable and how does it relate to the discussion?
-Ruo's HDMI cable is mentioned as a product that can deliver high-quality connections for TVs and monitors, but it is a separate topic from the main discussion about Samsung's TV panels and is likely included as a sponsored message.
Outlines
📺 Samsung's Potential Panel Lottery in S9D TVs
The paragraph discusses a report from a South Korean newspaper suggesting that Samsung might be mixing last-generation OLED panels with Quantum Dot OLED panels in their S9D TVs across various sizes, including 55, 65, and 77 inches. The speaker expresses disbelief and disapproval of this practice, comparing it to the panel lottery scenario with the S90C model where customers could potentially upgrade to a brighter panel. The speaker argues that the difference between W OLED and Quantum OLED panels is significant, affecting brightness, uniformity, color volume, and ambient light handling. They criticize Samsung for not being transparent about the panel types and for potentially degrading the S90D's performance to match the older panels. The paragraph ends with a call for the TV community to push back against this practice and a hope that Samsung will clarify their position.
🛒 Critique of Samsung's Matte Coating and Panel Strategy
In this paragraph, the speaker criticizes Samsung's decision to use a matte coating on their premium S95D TVs, which they believe degrades the display quality. They compare the coating to applying a 'grainy, shitty filter' over the display. The speaker also discusses Samsung's strategy of offering different panel types across their TV models, suggesting that the company is locking their best panels behind the S95D model and then offering a potentially less bright option with the S90D. The paragraph concludes with a warning to the TV industry and a call for reviewers to push back against such practices to prevent the TV market from following the negative trajectory of the monitor industry. The speaker also includes a promotional mention of Ruo's 8K HDMI 2.1 fiber optic cable, highlighting its capabilities and suggesting it as a solution for those looking to connect new TVs or monitors.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Samsung
💡Quantum Dot OLED (QD-OLED)
💡W-OLED
💡Panel Lottery
💡Burn-in
💡Matte Coating
💡HDMI Cable
💡8K Resolution
💡Uniformity
💡Color Volume
💡Ambient Light Handling
Highlights
Samsung may be mixing last-generation Evo WQ panels with Quantum Dot OLED panels on the S9D.
This mix is reportedly happening across various sizes including 42, 48, 55, 65, and 77 inches.
The practice is unprecedented and could be seen as a significant downgrade from previous models.
In the past, the S90C had a panel lottery between S95B and S95C panels, with the latter being brighter and less prone to burn-in.
The S90D is expected to be locked down to perform similarly to a WQ panel, which is a substantial change.
Quantum OLED panels offer better brightness, uniformity, and color volume compared to WQ panels.
WQ panels provide clearer text and better ambient light handling due to the lack of magenta tinting.
The difference between WQ and Quantum OLED panels is significant, making the mix potentially unacceptable.
Samsung's response to inquiries was vague, hinting at a possible panel lottery in the S90D.
The S90D is a more affordable option, making the potential panel mix a significant concern for consumers.
The S95D is locked behind a matte coating, which is seen as a downgrade from the glossy coating of other models.
The speaker will not recommend Samsung products due to the potential panel mix and other quality concerns.
The TV community is urged to push back against this practice to avoid a repeat of the monitor industry's issues.
The best-case scenario would be for Samsung to clarify that the S90D will only use Quantum Dot panels.
The speaker warns that if the reports are true, it could lead to a vastly different TV experience than expected.
The speaker calls for a unified response from TV reviewers to maintain industry standards.
RUO's 8K HDMI 2.1 fiber optic cable is recommended for those looking to connect new consoles or gaming PCs.
Transcripts
so recently there was a bit of news
coming out from the South Korean
newspaper the L that seemed to suggest
and this is insane but yes that
apparently Samsung might be actually
mixing in what is in my opinion almost
certainly going to be nonla last
generation Evo wed panels with their
Quantum do OLED panels on the s9d and
not just in the 42 and the 48 in sizes
but apparently the 55 the 6 65 in the
77in sizes as well something that as far
as amware has never happened before and
I cannot believe that they would do
something like this you know what
actually I can and the reason why is
because last time around with the s90c
it was a panel Lottery whether you're
going to get an s95 B panel or an s95 C
panel and if you were lucky enough to
get an s95 C panel you could in theory
turn it into an s95 C I've done it
myself it works and you get a much
brighter panel overall but that was two
Quantum OLED panels sure one was
brighter than the other and potentially
could be less prone to burn in but they
were technically based on the same sort
of Technology but this would be a
completely different situation and in my
opinion this is totally unacceptable I
mean Samsung you know what you want to
play stupid games you're going to win
stupid prizes you think that I'm
going to recommend somebody goes out
there and effectively gambles with their
money on what type of TV they're going
to get and you know what if they
performed similarly that would be a
different story and maybe they will
because they'll lock down the s90d so
hard that it'll somehow perform similar
to a wed panel but I don't see why they
would do like they would have to lock
down the s90d a very substantial mount
to the point where it might even be
worse than the s90c for that to be the
case that's the only way I could see
that happening otherwise I don't know
how they could even get away with doing
this because there are huge huge
differences between a regular wed panel
and a Quantum OLED panel and it doesn't
necessarily mean that I would 10 out of
10 times tell somebody to go get the
quantum panel or that it's definitely
better for everyone I think it's a
better panel but maybe not for everyone
because for example a modern Quantum
OLED panel is going to be far brighter
it's going to have better uniformity
typically and it's also going to have
better color volume however the W OLED
panel in my opinion is going to have
slightly more clear text and it's
definitely going to have better ambient
light handling as it doesn't have that
magenta tinting in a bright room so
these two panel Technologies are way way
different so I don't know how Samsung
thinks they can get away with selling
them as the same product essentially
without letting us know and as of right
now if these reports are to be believed
it sounds like that could be the case
it's it's sounding pretty likely as you
know Not only was it reported originally
by the elic but we got an update on this
guy as it looks like tech radar actually
asked Samsung for confirmation on these
reports and here was Samsung's response
quote we're continually evolving our TV
portfolio to provide our customers with
new and exciting Innovations and
experiences Samsung OLED TVs
consistently offer a premium experience
while delivering excellent viewing
performance regardless of the specific
panels that are integrated into the
product so that's a total cop out and to
give them credit sure maybe this doesn't
confirm anything but to me this kind of
sounds like they're hinting that it's
likely we're going to be getting a panel
lottery in the s90d and you know what
that's bad enough because the s90d is
going to be the panels that typically
everyone would go for they're going to
be far cheaper and for example the s90c
right now would be my go-to
recommendation for somebody who wants a
premium TV at a reasonable cost these
Quantum OLED TVs and monitors are really
really good so Samsung display has some
awesome technology on their hands but
Samsung Electronics my God it just seems
like to me they have the reverse mest
touch I'm always always having issues
with their products and it absolutely
drives me bananas when I get something
from them that doesn't have issues I'm
like oh my god wow finally I'm going
crazy here guys I am not going to
recommend this stuff because again it's
bad enough like I said it's bad enough
that they're doing this to the s90d but
okay go buy an s95 5D except for don't
because it has a mat cating and there's
going to be people who try and run
defense for it but I'm going to tell you
this right now I am not going to sit
here and run defense for Samsung
electronics for making stupid
decisions I've seen it on their monitors
it looks awful like what do we expect
here like sure some mac Coatings look
better than others I think LG's Mac
coatings on their monitors look awful
like really really bad they are way
worse than any other Ma cating I've seen
in my life they're definitely going to
be worse and the one that Samsung has on
their monitors and probably TVs as well
but looking at the footage of their TVs
as well as seeing their monitors in
person it's a matte coating what do you
want like if you put a grainy shitty
filter over the top of a display you
think it's going to look good no it's
not like I I have no idea what they're
doing so they're locking their best
panels behind the s95 D and then ruining
it with the matte coating and then going
well if you want a glossy coating go buy
the s90d which by the way is probably
going to be less bright oh and also by
the way who knows what you're going to
get hopefully the entire TV Community
comes together and pushes against this
and you know what the best situation
would be Samsung comes out and says you
know what no the s90d will be quantum.to
only and then the S90 1D and two and
three and four have different panels
that I would be totally okay with but if
this is going to be a situation where
you're spending your money thinking
you're getting one thing and then you
don't get that or not even close to that
the TV experience is just wildly
different that is not okay so Samsung
you better get a good response to this
and actually clarify this cuz it sounds
like right now that's what's going to be
happening I hope that's not the case but
if it is that's going to be my stance on
it and hopefully everybody else who
reviews displays does a similar thing
because let me tell you guys if there's
anybody who's watching this who is a TV
reviewer the monitor industry is a
mess we have had the worst
schlock available for us to purchase for
ungodly expensive prices for a really
long time and believe me you do not want
your TV industry to turn into the
absolute disaster that the LCD matte
screen absolute nightmare of an industry
that we've had on the monitor side which
is just now starting to correct itself
and get better but there's so many
things in the monitor industry that
still need to improve believe me push
back against this because if you don't
welcome to my world like get get ready
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