Intel's new Microcode patch is HERE! Impact Testing Performance...

Summary

This video script discusses the release of the latest microcode for MSI motherboards, specifically for Intel CPUs, ahead of the expected schedule. The script explores the performance implications and behavioral changes of the new microcode, focusing on Intel's 14th Gen 900K CPU. It includes tests on an MSI MPG Z790 Carbon 2 Wi-Fi motherboard, comparing performance before and after the microcode update. The results show minor fluctuations in performance, with some tests showing slight uplifts or drops, but no significant overall impact. The script also addresses concerns about CPU stability and the potential need for further updates, emphasizing the importance of long-term testing to ensure the microcode effectively addresses instability issues.

Takeaways

• 📅 MSI motherboards were the first to release the latest microcode updates for Intel CPUs ahead of schedule, expected in mid-August.
• 🔍 The microcode update, specifically 0x1129, is intended to address stability issues in Intel's 13th and 14th generation CPUs, but it will not fix CPUs already experiencing crashes.
• 💻 Falcon Northwest, a high-end custom gaming PC builder, is highlighted for their focus on performance and quality, offering systems with a three-year warranty and shipping coverage.
• 🛠️ The script discusses the necessity of updating both the BIOS and the Management Engine (ME) to properly apply the microcode to the CPU.
• 📊 Performance tests show mixed results post-microcode update, with some tests showing minor uplifts, others showing slight drops, and some remaining nearly identical.
• ⚠️ There is skepticism about whether the microcode update is a permanent fix or a temporary Band-Aid, indicating the need for long-term testing.
• 📉 In certain tests like Time Spy Extreme, there was a noticeable performance drop, suggesting potential changes in CPU behavior post-update.
• 🎮 Gaming performance tests showed minimal impact from the microcode update, with games like Shadow of the Tomb Raider showing no significant change.
• 🌡️ Temperature and power consumption remained largely the same after the update, contrary to expectations of potential reductions due to voltage adjustments.
• 🔋 Voltage spikes during single-core workloads were observed to be lower post-update, which could indicate a more stable and safer operating condition for the CPU.
• 🤔 The final assessment is that while there may be minor performance hits, stability is preferred, and the true effectiveness of the microcode update will only be known over time.

Q & A

What is the main topic discussed in the video script?

The main topic discussed in the video script is the release and testing of the latest microcode updates for Intel CPUs, specifically focusing on the performance and stability implications for 14th and 13th generation Intel Core CPUs.

Which motherboard brand was first to release the microcode updates according to the script?

MSI was the first motherboard brand to release the microcode updates for Intel CPUs.

What is the purpose of the microcode updates for Intel CPUs?

The purpose of the microcode updates is to address crashing and instability issues experienced by some Intel CPUs, particularly those from the 13th and 14th generation with 65 watts and up.

What is the microcode version that the script mentions as the latest?

The latest microcode version mentioned in the script is 0x1129.

How does the script describe the performance impact of the microcode updates on Intel CPUs?

The script suggests that there is no significant performance hit from the microcode updates, with most tests showing minimal changes and some even showing slight performance improvements in certain scenarios.

What is the significance of the BIOS update mentioned in the script?

The BIOS update is significant because it includes the microcode update, which is necessary for addressing the stability issues with Intel CPUs. It also involves changes to the Intel Extreme and Intel Performance profiles.

What additional step is required besides updating the BIOS for the microcode to take effect?

Besides updating the BIOS, the Management Engine (ME) installer must also be run to ensure that the microcode is applied to the CPU.

What is the sponsored brand mentioned in the script, and what do they offer?

The sponsored brand mentioned in the script is Falcon Northwest, which offers custom gaming PCs with a focus on high-end gaming experiences, custom cases, and a three-year warranty policy.

What is the script's stance on the long-term effectiveness of the microcode updates in resolving CPU stability issues?

The script expresses skepticism about the long-term effectiveness of the microcode updates, suggesting that it will take time to determine if the updates truly resolve the stability issues or are just a temporary fix.

What advice does the script give to users experiencing CPU crashes related to the microcode issues?

The script advises users experiencing CPU crashes related to microcode issues to perform an RMA (Return Merchandise Authorization) process, as their CPU is likely already damaged.

How does the script describe the voltage behavior before and after the microcode update?

The script describes that before the microcode update, there were voltage spikes close to 1.6 volts, particularly in single-core workloads. After the update, these spikes were reduced and did not exceed 1.51 volts, indicating a change in voltage management.

Outlines

00:00

🔍 Early Release of MSI Microcode Update

The script discusses the unexpected early release of the latest microcode for MSI motherboards compatible with Intel CPUs. The update, initially anticipated for mid-August, was released ahead of schedule with MSI being the first to roll it out. The primary focus is on the potential impact of the update on performance and behavior changes, particularly when tested on Intel's 14th Gen 900K CPU. The script also introduces a sponsored segment for Falcon Northwest, a high-end custom gaming PC builder, emphasizing their 30-year history, custom cases, and rigorous testing to ensure optimal performance. The company offers a comprehensive warranty and shipping coverage, inviting viewers to explore their offerings through a provided link.

05:00

📉 Performance Impact of New Microcode on Intel CPUs

This paragraph delves into the performance implications of the new microcode 0x1129, which is an update to address stability issues in Intel's 13th and 14th generation CPUs. The narrator clarifies that this update will not remedy instability already present in affected CPUs, suggesting it's an Intel issue that requires a more permanent solution. The script details the testing process on an MSI MPG z790 Carbon 2 Wi-Fi motherboard with BIOS updates and the ME engine installer, highlighting the necessity of both for the microcode to take effect. Performance tests, including Cinebench R23 and R24, Geekbench, and various other benchmarks, reveal minor fluctuations in performance, with some tests showing slight improvements and others minor declines, indicating no significant overall impact.

10:04

🎮 Gaming Performance and Microcode Update Effects

The paragraph examines the effects of the microcode update on gaming performance, using titles like Shadow of the Tomb Raider and Cyberpunk 2077 to illustrate any potential drops in frames per second (FPS). While Shadow of the Tomb Raider showed no significant change due to the CPU and GPU combination reaching the game's engine cap, Cyberpunk 2077 demonstrated a slight decrease in average and minimum FPS. The narrator also discusses the importance of single-core performance and voltage sensitivity, which can affect stability and potentially cause damage to the CPU. The paragraph concludes with a detailed analysis of core clock speeds, package temperatures, and voltage spikes before and after the microcode update, showing a reduction in voltage spikes post-update.

15:06

🔧 Stability Concerns and the Future of Intel Microcode

The final paragraph addresses the community's concerns regarding the stability and trustworthiness of Intel's microcode updates. The narrator suggests that while the performance hit from the update is minimal (around 2% on average), the real test will be the long-term stability of the CPUs. They mention the possibility of further microcode revisions, as evidenced by the quick succession of releases from MSI, and emphasize the need for caution and patience to see if the updates truly resolve the underlying issues. The script concludes by acknowledging the challenges faced by users with unstable CPUs, recommending RMA as a last resort and expressing hope that the new microcode will prove effective over time.

Keywords

💡Microcode

Microcode is a layer of machine-level code used in CPUs that helps translate instructions into operations within the processor. In the context of the video, the latest microcode update for Intel CPUs is discussed, which is intended to address stability issues and performance concerns. The script mentions that MSI motherboards were the first to receive these updates, and the video aims to assess the impact of these microcode revisions on system performance.

💡MSI Motherboards

MSI is a well-known manufacturer of computer hardware, including motherboards. The script highlights that MSI was the first to release the new microcode updates for Intel CPUs. The motherboards are central to the testing process described in the video, as they provide the platform on which the CPU performance is evaluated after the microcode update.

💡Intel CPUs

Intel CPUs refer to the central processing units manufactured by Intel Corporation. They are the primary focus of the video, as the script discusses a microcode update intended to improve the stability and performance of these processors. The video specifically tests the Intel Core i9-12900K processor to observe any changes in behavior or performance post-update.

💡Performance Stability

Performance stability in the context of CPUs refers to the processor's ability to maintain consistent operation without crashes or instability. The video discusses the expectation that the new microcode will improve stability, as previous versions of Intel's 13th and 14th generation CPUs were reported to have stability issues.

💡Behavioral Changes

Behavioral changes refer to the modifications in the way a system operates after an update or modification. In the script, the term is used to describe the potential shifts in CPU performance characteristics following the microcode update, such as changes in clock speeds, voltage requirements, and thermal performance.

💡BIOS Update

A BIOS (Basic Input/Output System) update is a software revision that can improve system functionality or compatibility. The script mentions that along with the microcode update, a BIOS update was necessary to ensure the new microcode is properly applied to the CPU. The video tests different BIOS versions to observe the impact on CPU performance.

💡ME Engine Installer

The ME (Management Engine) Engine Installer is a software tool used to update the Management Engine firmware on Intel-based systems. The script specifies that updating the ME Engine is a separate process from the BIOS update and is necessary for the microcode to take effect on the CPU.

💡Cinebench R23

Cinebench R23 is a benchmarking software that assesses the performance of CPUs by running a series of tests. The script uses Cinebench R23 to evaluate the performance of the Intel CPU before and after the microcode update, noting any differences in scores as an indicator of the update's impact.

💡Voltage Spikes

Voltage spikes refer to sudden increases in electrical voltage within a system. The video discusses the observation of voltage spikes in the CPU during certain workloads, which can potentially lead to instability or damage. The new microcode is expected to mitigate these voltage spikes and thus improve CPU stability.

💡Package Power

Package power is the total power consumption of the CPU package, including all cores and uncore components. The script mentions observing changes in package power after the microcode update, suggesting a smoother power delivery that may contribute to improved stability and thermal performance.

💡Gaming Performance

Gaming performance is a measure of how well a system can run games, typically assessed by frame rates and graphical fidelity. The video includes gaming benchmarks to see if the microcode update affects the CPU's ability to handle CPU-intensive titles like 'Cyberpunk 2077', which relies heavily on CPU processing power.

Highlights

Latest microcode for MSI motherboards and Intel CPUs released ahead of schedule.

MSI was the first to release the microcode update, which was initially expected in mid-August.

Performance and behavioral changes discussed regarding Intel's 14th Gen 900K CPU after microcode update.

Microcode 0x1129 is newer than the previously leaked 0x125, addressing crashing and instability issues in 13th and 14th Gen CPUs.

If a 13th or 14th Gen CPU is already unstable, the new microcode will not fix it; it's considered an Intel issue.

For stable CPUs, the new microcode aims to maintain stability, though long-term testing is needed to confirm effectiveness.

MSI MPG z790 Carbon 2 Wi-Fi motherboard was used for testing with two different BIOS versions.

The new BIOS update includes Intel Extreme and Intel Performance profiles, which were not in the initial release.

Both BIOS and ME engine updates are required for the microcode to take effect on the CPU.

Cinebench R23 showed no significant performance change after the microcode update.

Cinebench R24 multi-threading showed a noticeable drop in performance after the update.

Geekbench scores showed a minor drop, within the margin of error, after the microcode update.

Handbrake render time showed a negligible increase, possibly within the margin of error.

Blender benchmark showed a slight performance improvement after the update.

Time Spy showed a significant drop in CPU test score after the microcode update.

Gaming performance in Shadow of the Tomb Raider remained nearly identical after the update.

Cyberpunk 2077 showed a slight drop in FPS, indicating a potential impact of the microcode update on CPU-intensive titles.

Voltage spikes during single-core workloads were reduced after the microcode update.

Package power showed a smoother fluctuation pattern after the update, suggesting more stable voltage delivery.

The impact of the microcode update on performance is minor, with an average hit of about 2%.

The community's trust in Intel's microcode update is uncertain, and long-term stability remains to be seen.

Transcripts

okay we got the latest micro code at

least for the MSI motherboards that

we're going to check out regarding Intel

CPUs uh this is kind of ahead of

schedule actually we were expecting

middle of August for these micro codes

to start dropping MSI was first and we

tested it we're going to talk about what

kind of performance you may or may not

lose and what sorts of Behavioral

changes there are with Intel's at least

14 900k which is what we tested on first

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below all right so I'm talking about

micro code 0x1 129 it's actually later

or newer than 0 x125 which is the code

or the micro code that was sort of

leaked that intel was currently testing

for the crashing and instability

problems regarding your 14th 13th gen C

KC CPUs anything 65 watts and up which

is just about all of them at this point

um spoiler alert we've already talked

about this if your 13th and 14th gen CPU

is already experiencing and exhibiting

in stability Behavior it's done it's

toast this code is not going to fix it

that is an Intel problem that they are

going to have to figure out how the hell

they're going to deal with that but this

is for those of you that have had or

have stable CPUs like mine included at

home has not had any crashing issues and

I've been running it at 320 watt for a

long time this problem does not

necessarily plague every single CPU I

mean the micro code stuff there's

variant in there

so this is for those of you that do not

have crashing Intel CPUs and you want to

keep them that way this is thetically

the way that's supposed to work although

I think we're all a little leery of

whether or not it's really going to fix

the problem and it's not just a Band-Aid

so long-term testing is really going to

show over time if these are going to fix

the problems so we ran the 14900 K on

our MSI MPG z790 Carbon 2 Wi-Fi

motherboard not an Asus board so the two

bios for the carbon 2 that we used here

one of them goes back to May which is

e7d 89 im.

a42 um which is the first bios MS I

launched was which specifically put the

Intel extreme and Intel performance

profiles in the Bios feed to select

prior to that none of those profiles

were there at all they defaulted to the

4,096 Watts the 511 amps the whole deal

right the unlimited power which was what

was part of the problem with all of

these CPU deaths so we ran through our

CPU test and then we loaded the latest

bios which actually dropped today this

is a very fast video we're working on

this but today which is actually a few

days later than the previous bios which

dropped with the 0 x125 which is the

first revision micro code fix from Intel

so MSI has been rolling these out

actually pretty quickly so this bios the

second bios was the e7d 89 im. A51 so on

their website as of

888224 now that could change and there

could still be some revisions to that

micro code but we wanted to see what

kind of performance hit increase changes

Behavior whatever that's going to happen

by changing uh the micro code now the

micro code and the me engine also had a

separate installer that we had to run so

it wasn't just the BIOS update you need

to look at the package uh from your bios

manufacturer or your motherboard

manufacturer and see what their patching

notes are because if you were to just

install the BIOS but not run the me

engine or the me installer you would not

have gotten the micro code on your CPU

either so you have to run those together

Asus motherboards tends to do it all

together as a package it'll do a restart

and then do the Emy automatically so

depending on your motherboard you may or

may not have to do that so check with

your motherboards installation

instructions let's go and get right into

the results here because this is where

things get kind of interesting because

you'll notice if we look in the chart

here and I left all our CPUs on there

we'll start with um we'll start with

cinebench R23 all core so you see at the

bottom of the chart it says 14,900 K 0

x29 that's the latest bios and the 0 x23

that's what the micro code was for the

BIOS that came out with the performance

and extreme profiles it's also important

to note this is on the extreme 250 53

wat profile which is actually what Intel

says the performance is supposed to be

but as you can see no significant change

visible uh to the 14900 K in that test

if you take a look at cinebench R23 the

single thread score um again a slight

uplift 2336 on single core to a 2345

single core again margin of error you

can run this 10 10 this run this test 10

times and get 10 different results there

if we look at r24 which is an actually a

harder

test to run than R23 it does it's

different types of instructions that are

actually happening during the test it's

not just one that's hammering the cores

uh we went from a

2136 down to a 2124 I would actually say

in the multi-threading test in r24 this

is actually more of a significant

measurable drop um a 2136 to a 2124 is

noticeable you'll notice these are much

lower score numbers than like R23 so a

22 point or a 12o drop is actually

somewhat noticeable um in terms of the

test now if we go to a single core run

on r24 it's exactly the same 136 to 136

you'll notice kind of a theme Here the

single core stuff doesn't really seem to

be affected too much although single

core workloads is where a lot of the

voltage would jump too high as high as

1.6 on the old micro code um where you

actually would see the voltage problem

more than just all core if you enable an

allcore workload most of the cores due

to vrou will actually drop their vid

drop their vid out of the the danger

zone but it's actually the single core

workloads that have a a chance to burst

the voltage high enough to potentially

cause damage um at least I had a whole

discussion with Falcon Northwest about

that which was actually quite surprising

I always just assumed the all core

workload would be the biggest stress to

the CPU but no if we're talking about

voltage sensitivity it's actually single

and two core workloads that can cause

that burst and we'll look at the chart

later where you'll actually see some of

that on the pre um 0x1 129 all right so

looking at geekbench here a little bit

of a drop so from 2,169 to a

20,33 it's important to note this is all

the exact same system for for this these

tests this is not like we threw it on a

different rig and saw how it performed

this is only the BIOS and management

engine change for the micro code now

geekbench uh single core you can see we

go from a 3209 to a

3197 um fairly margin of error there not

the significant performance hit at least

that we've seen so far that a lot of

people were expecting potentially happen

I think what people were thinking was

going to happen is that there was going

to maybe be

with the new micro code a voltage SL

frequency drop across the board on these

on the cores and so far that's not what

we're seeing here I don't think I don't

think we most of us ever expected that

to be the case but I know that that's

what people have been sort of like

throwing out into the into the void

Sphere for people to either just I don't

know believe or whatnot but if we look

at handbrake you can see we gained one

second of render time so handbreak is a

lower is better type of score it's how

many seconds it took to transcode our 4K

video down to 1080p um we're not using

Quicks sync or any of that stuff this is

just raw CPU power and you can see we

went from 59 seconds to a 60 seconds

again complete margin of error that

could be a rounding error with the way

that does a fraction of a second it

could have been more than 59.5 which at

that point would just round up to 60

seconds now we actually picked up some

performance in blender so you can see we

went from in the classroom render um

which is a r Trace rendering we went

from 11055 to a

11127 a little bit larger than the

margin of error we've seen now these are

samples samples higher is better um we

tend to see that we can run this test 10

times and get very very very similar

results every single time not this like

two or three point variant so there was

a little bit of a pickup there if we

take a look at uh junk shop however we

lost a little bit of performance there

1589 to

15628 again potentially margin of error

but it's still noticeable and and we

have to mention that now monster is

nearly identical at

22928 versus

22955 so nearly identical performance

there now time spy was an interesting

one because all these tests are

different type of instruction that we're

asking the CPU to do and different types

of instructions will hit the cores and

hit the logic with the way the voltage

and the frequencies operate in a

different way so Times by extreme went

from 11,941 down to an

11,264 700 points in the CPU test is a

significant drop that's actually

noticeable sometimes we have to

overclock our CPUs to pick up 700 points

in CPU tests in time stream when

we're doing like the xoc stuff so seeing

it drop 700 points is actually a a

pretty significant talking point right

here that that so far is the biggest

change we've seen with the new micro

code versus the existing micro code now

if we go into gaming however shadow of

the Tomb Raider pretty much identical

the reason for that is the fact that the

14900 K and an RTX 490 can hit the

engine cap of 300 Mega 300 frames per

second in Shadow of the Tomb Raider so

it's 1080p medium no scaling no RTX

higher is better we're trying to push as

many frames to the CPU as possible so

that we can see how the CPU handles that

so you can see 301 and 300 300's a new

cap that game used to be capped at

around 220 over the years they've

actually increased that cap now it's

around 300 so you can see we're hitting

the cap before we're hitting or seeing

any sort of degradation in performance

by having this new micro code cyberpunk

2077 however is a CPU intensive title

and we did see a drop although you'd

have a hard time noticing it we did see

a drop 236 average FPS down to

229 and our minimum FPS also dropped

from a 190 to a

186 now like I said now like I said

cyberpunk is a more intensive CPU type

of title it's got a lot of AI happening

in the game it's got a huge City that's

got a lot of NPCs doing things and the

CPU is in charge of handling a lot of

the way that those uh simulations

interact in the game and then obviously

the GPU isn't isn't responsible for all

of the like post-processing of the

scenes to make them beautiful and

obviously accelerate the scenes so a

actual measurable drop in cyberpunk um

2077 in fact it dropped it almost down

to the 14600 K number now obviously we

have to retest all of our 14th gen and

13th gen CPUs prior to the next round of

CPU testing because all of these CPUs

may see the same potential type of drop

most of the problems that we've been

experiencing has specifically been on

the 900 are the I9 SKS so 13900 and

14900 some 13700 and 14 700s have seen

instability issues very few of the 14600

or 13600 CPUs have seen this type of

issue it really comes down to the higher

more dense core count CPUs that are

having this problem now seeing FPS

charts and stuff like that that's only

part of the story the other thing we did

was I did a 10-minute cinch run R23

allcore um to just sort of see if

there's any visual differences that

happen over time so I charted out over

time a few different things so for

instance we'll start with the core

clocks here um what I'm looking for here

is to see if there's any core clock drop

was there any drop between pre1 129 or

post1 129 and as you can see by looking

at this chart the green and the blue are

the Pees the orange and the yellow are

the EES you can see we're still getting

about 5.1 5.15 megahertz uh or gigahertz

on all the peores before and after and

all of the trends are the same all these

low spikes that you see by the way this

is when the test restarts so the

frequency actually drops during the test

restart um and then obviously under load

they jump back up because we do have C

States enabled in the CPU that's part of

the profile stuff to make sure C states

are enabled um believe it or not a lot

of the motherboards actually were

disabling C States so they would just

run full speed constantly all the time

so that's why you see these sudden drops

in the chart now if you look at the

start though on the ecor pre0

x12900 MHz higher for the first three

and a half runs and then it basically

matches where we are post 0x1 129 so I

thought that that was interesting that

we see no difference on the PE cor but

we see a little behavioral difference on

the ecor now if we move over here to

package temperatures they were pretty

much identical now what I was hoping to

see here was that we'd see some um

temperature drop because if we were

seeing potential voltage dropping then

that would lead to lower temperatures as

you can see here with our um my Cooler

Master 280 uh millimeter AIO on here we

pretty much have identical temperatures

across the board so the green line as

you can see here this is package temp

pre micro code the blue line is post

micro code and it's pretty much

identical now if we take a look at the

voltage on the other hand um this is

where things are a little bit

interesting because if you take a look

at the green line which is the pre1 129

patch or micro code patch you can see

the voltage spikes so you saw in the

frequency test in between the tests the

frequency drops however there there's

going to be one or two cores and

remember there's 28 threads in a 14900 K

one or two cores is going to spike to

load the test that's just because of the

fact that it becomes a like very low

thread workload to load the test or get

it started so this is when we're going

to see these voltage spikes now look at

the spikes right especially the ones

right here in the middle they get

awfully close to 1.6 volts while

starting the test and then you can see

during the test they shoot down and then

as the load comes off and it reloads the

test test that single core voltage Spike

spikes again real high and it's not that

high at the start it's what's

interesting about that is it's not that

high at the start of the test it starts

to go higher in the middle of the test

now if you take a look at the blue line

which is post micro code update you can

see we still have those similar spikes

in the same spots but they're not as

high they're not exceeding 1.51 volts

was the highest that I observed whereas

we were getting 1.58 volts prior to it

so this is where we're actually seeing

the micro code changes is going to be in

single core um and maybe low core count

type of workloads where those CPUs are

staying at a much higher core clock

closer to the 6 GHz which is what you're

supposed to get on single and two core

performance on the 900

SKS to get 6 GHz you need voltage to

support that so as you can see right

here it definitely drops the voltage a

little bit not a lot but a little bit

after the micro code update so this is

where we saw the biggest change was this

the the local core count voltage spikes

now if we take a look at package power

this is also where it's a little bit

interesting too the green line as you

can see it's steady at 253 and when I

say steady I mean it's there's a little

bit of a wave in there but it is like

you can tell 253 is the cap however the

blue line as you can see has a more kind

of a wavy fluctuating pattern underneath

253 so it actually dropped down to about

245 to like 248 average with spikes 253

so that's probably linked obviously to

voltage voltage is directly correlated

to Watts obviously voltage watts and

amps all three of those are related

that's how electricity works so it makes

sense with that little bit of voltage

change that we were seeing at least with

the low core count voltages that there

would be a different way that it hits

the Headroom or the the target I should

say so it hits that Target a little more

smoothly rather than just throwing

itself against that 253 watt limit and

then just locking itself there so this

is the way it looks post micro code now

as I said already whether or not you

trust Intel's micro code to really be

the fix it's probably the best idea to

wait and see how this goes over time the

like I said MSI was the first brand to

come out right now with the micro code I

got a million emails this morning when I

woke up saying hey the new micro code's

out why don't you test it here it is at

the end of the day it is not and and I

know this sounds like Intel fanboying

right now it's not I'm team computer I

love computers I don't care if it's

Intel or AMD or

Nvidia I just I just love computers

whatever it is that works for you but

it's not the oh my God your CPUs are

about to get nerfed type of performance

hit at most we saw about 2% of average

performance hit no one's going to notice

2% if I have to give up 2% or even 5% of

performance to have it be stable yeah

I'll be upset about that because that

would mean I lost some performance that

I paid for and was advertised to get but

I'd much rather have my CPU be stable we

took bigger hits with Spectre and

meltdown with those updates which were

security updates than we're seeing with

this but again I don't think the story

is over yet I I I because of the fact

that MSI released a0 x125 and then only

a few days later a 0x1

129 I'm wondering if there's like a0x

131 or something Intel is working on now

we need to see over time if this fixes

the problem like I said if you have a

CPU that's not crashing you're probably

safe but that doesn't mean it hasn't

already degraded somewhat that you that

isn't noticeable because your workloads

don't hit it in a way that it would

present itself that's the trust issue

that everyone's having right now with

Intel and unfortunately as I said if

you're already getting blue screens and

stuff and it's related to this your CPU

is already toast it's time to RMA that

however painful that process is going to

be all right guys there you go tell me

how you feel about the new micro code

hopefully this fixes stuff but we

definitely aren't going to know right

now it's going to take time thanks for

watching as always we'll see you in the

next one