What’s Next for Our Fertility Journey After a Failed Embryo Transfer??
Summary
TLDRIn this video, the couple candidly shares their emotional journey through an unsuccessful IVF attempt. They discuss their varied reactions to the news, emphasizing the importance of being prepared for any outcome. Despite the setback, they remain hopeful, planning for a second embryo transfer while addressing misconceptions about post-transfer activities like flying. The video also clarifies that natural conception is not an option due to the removal of the Fallopian tubes, and they express gratitude for having any embryos at all after a challenging retrieval process.
Takeaways
- 😔 The couple experienced disappointment and sadness after an unsuccessful IVF attempt.
- 🤔 They acknowledge that people deal with emotional outcomes like shock and grief in different ways.
- 🌟 The importance of being prepared for any outcome in IVF is emphasized, as success can vary greatly between rounds.
- 🧘 Alesia felt a strong sense of hope leading up to the test but also experienced a sudden feeling of disconnection.
- 🤰 The couple received advice from their doctors that flying after the embryo transfer was safe and followed it.
- 👩⚕️ They clarified that the Italian medical guidelines allowed for normal activities, including flying, after 24 hours of the procedure.
- 🚫 Jesse no longer has Fallopian tubes due to surgeries related to endometriosis, making natural conception impossible.
- 💊 The necessity of immediate medical intervention with progesterone is highlighted to prevent the return of endometriosis.
- 🌱 Despite the lower quality of the remaining embryo, there is still hope for a successful pregnancy as embryo grading does not always predict success.
- 🌍 The couple plans to return to Italy quickly for the next embryo transfer, considering the constraints of their medical situation.
- 🔄 They are considering another egg retrieval if the second transfer fails, due to the Italian regulations requiring all available embryos to be transferred first.
Q & A
What is the main topic of the video?
-The main topic of the video is the couple's experience with an unsuccessful IVF (In Vitro Fertilization) attempt and their feelings about it.
How did Jesse feel about the unsuccessful IVF attempt?
-Jesse felt sad and disappointed but was prepared for either outcome, trying to be optimistic and hopeful.
How did Alesia feel when she realized the IVF attempt was unsuccessful?
-Alesia felt speechless and disconnected, experiencing a shift inside her that she couldn't explain.
What was Alesia's initial reaction to the test results?
-Alesia was initially in denial, hoping to see a positive result and trying to justify the lack of a visible line on the test.
Why was Jesse apologizing in the video?
-Jesse was apologizing because she felt she had pushed Alesia to look at the test results before he might have been ready, and she was sorry to see him upset.
What was the couple's stance on flying after the embryo transfer?
-The couple flew the day after the embryo transfer, as their doctors told them it was totally okay and they wanted to be cautious for their own comfort.
Why did the couple not consider taking a break from IVF?
-They could not take a break because Jesse no longer has Fallopian tubes due to endometriosis, making natural conception impossible, and they need to prevent the endometriosis from coming back.
What is the next step for the couple in their IVF journey?
-The next step is to try the second embryo implantation, and if that fails, they plan to do another egg retrieval.
Why can't the couple do another egg retrieval immediately?
-In Italy, they are not allowed to do any kind of IVF treatment, including egg collection, until all available embryos have been transferred.
What was the quality of the embryos they had after the egg retrieval in November?
-They had two embryos, one of which was of lower quality on day six, but they were grateful to have any embryos at all after the difficulties with endometriosis.
How does the couple feel about the possibility of the second embryo not being successful?
-They are being realistic about the lower chances but still holding onto hope and planning to try their very best.
Outlines
😔 Emotions and Experiences After Unsuccessful IVF
The first paragraph discusses the emotional aftermath of an unsuccessful IVF attempt. The speakers, Jesse and Alesia, share their feelings of disappointment and sadness, emphasizing the importance of being prepared for any outcome in the IVF process. They describe their individual reactions to the failed attempt, with Jesse feeling prepared for the possibility and Alesia experiencing a sense of disconnection and shock. They also address the raw emotions captured in a video, explaining that people deal with grief in different ways. Additionally, Jesse clarifies that she was apologizing in the video not because she felt she had failed, but because she was sorry to see Alesia upset.
🛫 Clarifications on Post-IVF Activities and Flying
In the second paragraph, the couple addresses misconceptions about post-IVF activities, specifically regarding flying after the procedure. They explain that their doctors advised that flying was safe and that they were not engaging in strenuous activities for 24 hours post-transfer. They refute comments suggesting they should not have flown, stating that they consulted with their doctors and chose what they felt most comfortable with. The paragraph also touches on the importance of normal activity for blood flow to the uterus and the couple's decision to be cautious for their own comfort.
🌱 Hope and Plans for the Next IVF Steps
The final paragraph focuses on the couple's gratitude for having embryos after their retrieval process, considering the challenges they faced due to endometriosis. They express their intention to try the second embryo transfer, being realistic about the lower chances of success but still hopeful. The paragraph outlines their plans to travel to Italy for the transfer, driven by the need to act quickly due to the risk of endometriosis returning. They also mention the Italian regulations that require all available embryos to be transferred before any further IVF treatments can occur. The couple concludes by acknowledging the emotional ups and downs of the IVF journey and thanks their supporters for their ongoing encouragement.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡IVF (In Vitro Fertilization)
💡Unsuccessful
💡Optimism
💡Grief
💡Raw Moment
💡Endometriosis
💡Embryo Transfer
💡Progesterone
💡Egg Retrieval
💡Quality of Embryo
💡Support
Highlights
The video discusses the emotional journey of an unsuccessful IVF attempt.
Jesse expresses her preparedness for any outcome but admits to feeling sad about the failure.
Alesia describes her initial hope and eventual disconnection feeling before the negative result.
The couple emphasizes the importance of showing raw moments in their IVF journey.
Different coping mechanisms for grief and shock are mentioned, with Alesia being speechless and Jesse being more prepared.
Jesse clarifies that her apologies in the video were for causing emotional distress, not for failing.
The video addresses misconceptions about flying after an embryo transfer, stating that it was medically advised and safe.
Jesse explains the recommended 24-hour rest period post-transfer and the importance of normal activity for blood flow.
The couple dismisses the idea of taking a break from IVF due to Jesse's medical condition and the urgency of treatment.
Alesia and Jesse share their gratitude for having two embryos despite the challenges posed by endometriosis.
The couple acknowledges the lower chances of success with their second embryo due to its quality but remains hopeful.
The video explains the Italian IVF regulations that require all available embryos to be transferred before any further treatments.
Jesse shares her experience of feeling disconnected on the day of the test, indicating a premonition of the outcome.
The couple discusses the variability of embryo quality and the unpredictability of IVF success rates.
Alesia and Jesse express their commitment to each other and their journey, despite the ups and downs of IVF.
The video concludes with a message of thanks to their supporters and a look forward to the next update.
Transcripts
Chi welcome to another video so this
video we're talking about our next step
but first we want to tell you how we
feeling so actually Jesse how you feel
about the this unsuccessful so I was
obviously sad but I went into it
prepared for either outcome um obviously
trying to be optimistic and hopeful so I
was disappointed that it didn't work but
like we said all the time guys we want
to show you the Raw
moment that we experience when it
happens and obviously like you see saw
in the video people deal with shock and
grief in different ways so Alesia was
speechless I was a little bit more
prepared in that moment and it was sad
but you know I think what's important to
know when you start IVF is anything can
happen you know you can be successful
the first round you can be successful
the seventh round or you can be
unsuccessful so we're trying to go into
it prepared all the potential outcome so
how did you feel in well I need to say I
prepare my eight days with big hope I
was prepared like it's going to happen
it's going to happen it's going to
happen and at one point I need when we
was discussing with Jesse can you don't
see that in that week Jesse was feeling
it's not happening because sometimes her
she can feel her body there was
something that happened like we had our
transfer on a Monday and Saturday is
like all through that week I was like
feeling like yes yes we got it and
Saturday it was just suddenly I felt
disconnected I can't explain it I just
had a feeling I was like it's not there
I can't explain to you but it was just
like almost a shift that I felt inside
of me and I kind of had this expectation
that it wasn't successful and in my side
what I was uh say it is I was so
building this expectation yes it's going
to happen I was trying to be super
positive and at one point I don't want
to know the
news no it's okay I'm sorry for you too
but I was no want arrive the day and
Jesse said let's do a test for no
because tomorrow we have the blood test
we're going to no no because they're not
going to give us the results like in
Italy immediately and in my heart I was
say no I want to wait I want to give
this day because I don't want to arrive
to the to the actually day to say yes or
no when was no
was uh really rough still rough a little
bit it's rough because you look in that
little thing and then it's not the line
and your eyes are like am I blind is the
line there and I just can't see it am I
just like shock but no it's not that and
then the emotion was like uh in my brain
was like to
say surre I want
like like
um it's not happy like you maybe we need
to wait 5 hours my brain will say let's
wait let's wait let's wait trying to
just come up with justification I saw I
know I was off and then a lot of videos
getting upset here okay I'm sorry I
can't make you sad but but a lot of
people then they
see take your
time really just take your time
deadline
RI trauma I want to say something really
fast too in that has to do with that so
you saw me saying I'm sorry I'm sorry
I'm sorry a lot in the video and I just
wanted to clarify that I wasn't
apologizing because I felt like I failed
aleso or that my body had failed I dealt
with those emotions early on in our
trying to conceive journey and I did go
through times where I felt like this was
all my fault but what you saw me
apologizing there in the video was when
I saw him upset I was apologizing cuz I
felt like I pushed him to look at the
test results before he might have been
ready and I was just sorry that he was
sad and I could see his emotions and I
just I wanted to apologize for him being
sad just in general you know like I mean
I
just I mean I was supposed to be even in
that moment my brain closed cry just no
it's okay you did Jesse did so so good
in all the situation I want to just
adjust some little things that don't
like it too much but like um some people
said oh she she not supposed to be to
fly I want to just adjust one thing
about it the fly the doctors told us get
flying was totally totally okay and we
fly the day after so usually when you do
the plantation it is 10 minutes there
and then it's 24 hours 24 hours okay
what they recommended it is for 24 hours
don't do uh strenuous exercise exercise
so jumping running uh go to the gym
solvate heavy stuff and but you can fly
you can fly it's not because the
attitude is different from the body no
because the embryo it is actually
sticking to the to the uters you know
and then stay there and then after 24
hours the to ask is really hard pull out
it's not going to jump like bump out
yeah so some people say you can start uh
normal activity in the evening but we
wait uh for to be more cautious for our
own comfort for our own Comfort but they
also said to make sure that we didn't
just stay in bed all the time because
it's a misconception because your uterus
needs blood flow so do walking do normal
activity house like light walking you're
your life but blend like not jumping not
that stuff so so and you know we were on
an international flight so there was a
lot of time where I was just resting in
the plane so yeah like Alesia said we
saw some people um say like oh you
shouldn't have done this you shouldn't
have done that we've talked to our
doctors and weit our own op options and
we always choose what we feel the most
comfortable with so you guys have to
trust us with that and most people do
for sure most people are totally amazing
and kind and supportive so I just want
to say that too well we want to address
that because of course people say oh you
fly because people thinking can fly it
is danger Dangerous and before I knew I
probably would have thought that also
yeah me too oh it's probably not good
but actually they told us the doctor no
don't feel in that trap you need to act
normal walking all that stuff and I
talked with other people who've done IVF
abroad in different countries different
areas and they all fly right after or
the day of or a couple days later and
many have had success so just because
ours wasn't successful doesn't mean that
it was because of the the plane ride
yeah I also wanted to confirm one other
thing with you guys that I saw a few
times in the comments people were trying
to encourage me to just take a break
from IVF try naturally for a couple of
Cycles oh make sure the stress is down
because as soon as you stop trying
you're you're going to do it to remind
you guys I no longer have Fallopian
tubes one was removed in my surgery in
January and one was removed in the
surgery we did in June in and because of
the endometriosis it totally destroyed
both sides of my tubes they were Twisted
gnarled knotted up full of fluid full of
blood totally not salvageable so they
had to remove them in order to increase
our chances for IVF because if you have
these tubes that are full of yucky stuff
it can leak out and it can harm the
embryo it can harm implantations so for
us they said these have to get out I
don't have floian tubes anymore there is
no chance for us to conceive naturally
even if we tried it's not going to
happen and then we need to go
immediately in the medicine progesterone
to prevent endometriosis so it's another
thing we cannot in hard situation we
canot chill about it oh let's take a
break the two months and this happening
no because we have no fop to the
endometriosis can come back the next
step it is try to do the second
implantation again but
unfortunately but keep in mind this
chance it is lower from the other chance
because our embryo unfortunately the
quality it is day six but this no means
that this not going to happen Okay
because it's yes it is um not the best
embryo can we have a possibility but the
doctors told us you know I a patient
with four EGS three amazing and one not
good the three amazing all the fail the
last one and she didn't even the patient
didn't even want to transfer that embryo
and the doctor said let's try let's try
and then and that was the one that had
the baby so the the metric because the
embryos is different from every Clinic
cuz sometimes you can have an a grade
that doesn't have normal chromosomes so
it will never develop pregnanc and you
can have a c quality that is normal
chromosomes and does obviously the
chances are lower based on the lower
grades but it's still possible so we are
so so grateful that we even ended up
with two embryos after our egg retrieval
in November after with all the endom
materials she have remember she have
theist we have so many eggs we cannot
collect we can just cleap uh that much
but then endomet attack the egg so no uh
fluid no blood flow FL so was a little
bit tricky so it's already a miracle
that we have embos so we are so grateful
because so many people don't end up with
embryos after retrieval so unfortunately
our first one didn't take we're going to
try the second one try second we're
being realistic about it because the
chances are lower but we're still
obviously going to Hope and try our very
best yeah very best but we are thinking
about that as we go into it so hard plan
it is now we're going to looking now the
flight we're going to try to go fast in
Italy try to do this uh transfer we go
fast not because we are uh want to do
fast we go fast for the endometriosi can
on coming back then if this going to
fail we're going to try another round
egg retrieval so you ask why you don't
do egg retrieval now and then you not
going to uh do later you know the
transfer because in Italy it's a l okay
first you need to finish all the eggs
and then you can redoing retrieval retal
basically because we still have an
embryo Frozen we're not allowed to do
any kind of IVF treatment no egg
collection even if they just froze my
eggs it's just not allowed there so we
have to transfer all available embryos
before yeah doing anything else this is
our story now we going we are feeling
better yeah thinking about it's a little
bit in motion but this the IVF it is up
and downs but and down every hour we're
going to go through like always together
I've been I'm sorry been ging this whole
time always together and thank you guys
for supporting us until the next update
ciao
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