Why volume CANNOT be king of muscle growth

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30 May 202412:16

Summary

TLDRIn this video, Carter debunks the myth that 'volume is king' in muscle training. He explains the physiological basis of muscle growth, focusing on motor unit recruitment and the impact of fatigue on training effectiveness. Emphasizing that mechanical tension, not volume, is key to muscle growth, he suggests that optimal volume for muscle growth plateaus around six sets per muscle group per session, or ten sets per week, and that excessive volume can be counterproductive, especially for advanced trainees. Carter encourages trainees to focus on activating underutilized muscle fibers and targeting specific regions for hypertrophy.

Takeaways

  • 🍽️ Paul Carter discusses the concept of volume in training while eating his breakfast.
  • 💪 When you first start training, there's a motor unit recruitment deficit, meaning you can't activate all muscle fibers initially.
  • ⚡ As you train, you reduce this deficit and can activate larger muscle fibers, which grow larger but are more easily damaged.
  • 🔋 Early in training, recovery is at its peak due to the oxidative nature of type one fibers.
  • 🔄 With fatigue from each set, there's a reduction in motor unit recruitment, affecting the ability to continuously recruit large fibers.
  • ⏲️ Studies show that longer rest periods between sets reduce fatigue interference, allowing better muscle growth with fewer sets.
  • 🚫 Volume is not king; mechanical tension is key for muscle growth. High degrees of motor unit recruitment and contraction velocity are essential.
  • 📊 Research indicates that around six sets per muscle group per session or ten sets per week are optimal for muscle growth, beyond which diminishing returns occur.
  • 🧬 For advanced trainees, it's more about targeting specific muscle areas for regional hypertrophy and not just increasing volume.
  • 🔍 Understanding the difference between studies on untrained and trained individuals is crucial for applying training principles effectively.

Q & A

  • What is the main topic discussed in the video script?

    -The main topic discussed in the video script is the concept of volume in training and why it is not the key factor in muscle growth, contrary to popular belief.

  • What is a 'motor unit recruitment deficit'?

    -A motor unit recruitment deficit refers to the inability of a beginner to activate all muscle fibers, particularly the high-threshold motor units, during training due to lack of experience and neuromuscular efficiency.

  • Why do type one muscle fibers grow rapidly when you first start training?

    -Type one muscle fibers grow rapidly when you first start training because they are more oxidative with higher mitochondrial density, providing better protective mechanisms against muscle damage and allowing for faster recovery.

  • What happens to motor unit recruitment as fatigue occurs during a workout?

    -As fatigue occurs during a workout, there is a reduction in motor unit recruitment, meaning not all muscle fibers, especially the largest ones, can be continuously activated as effectively as at the beginning of the workout.

  • Why does the video suggest that longer rest periods between sets are more beneficial for muscle growth?

    -Longer rest periods are suggested to be more beneficial because they reduce fatigue interference, allowing for better motor unit recruitment and mechanical tension, which are key for muscle growth.

  • What is the role of mechanical tension in muscle growth according to the script?

    -Mechanical tension is crucial for muscle growth as it activates muscle fibers and initiates the biological processes that lead to muscle hypertrophy.

  • What does the script suggest about the optimal volume of sets for muscle growth?

    -The script suggests that around six sets per muscle group per session or about ten sets per week is where a plateau in muscle growth appears to begin, indicating diminishing returns beyond this point.

  • Why might doing more than the suggested volume of sets be counterproductive?

    -Doing more than the suggested volume of sets can be counterproductive because it may lead to overtraining, increased fatigue, and hinder the activation and recovery of the largest muscle fibers, which are most important for growth.

  • What is the importance of focusing on motor unit recruitment as you become more advanced in training?

    -As you become more advanced, focusing on motor unit recruitment is important to ensure that you are effectively stimulating the largest muscle fibers that have the greatest potential for growth, which may not be achieved with high volume alone.

  • What is the script's stance on the need for studies involving individuals using performance-enhancing drugs?

    -The script argues that there is no need for studies involving individuals using performance-enhancing drugs for understanding the basic physiology of training and muscle growth, as these introduce a different level of complexity that is not necessary.

  • How does the script differentiate between the training needs of beginners, intermediates, and advanced trainees?

    -The script differentiates by stating that beginners and intermediates can benefit from basic training and progressive overload for a long period, while advanced trainees need to focus on more granular aspects like regional hypertrophy and activating fibers that have not been used before.

Outlines

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🏋️‍♂️ The Myth of Volume as King in Muscle Training

In this paragraph, Paul Carter addresses the misconception that 'volume is king' in muscle training. He explains the physiological basis of muscle growth, starting with the concept of motor unit recruitment deficit for beginners. This deficit means that beginners can only activate a limited number of muscle fibers, particularly those with high-threshold motor units. As training progresses, individuals can activate larger muscle fibers, but these are more susceptible to damage and have longer recovery times. Carter emphasizes that mechanical tension, not volume, is the key to muscle growth, and that excessive volume can be counterproductive, especially for more advanced trainees.

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📊 The Plateau of Muscle Growth and the Role of Mechanical Tension

This paragraph delves into the specifics of muscle growth and the role of mechanical tension. Carter discusses the importance of motor unit recruitment and the slowing of contraction velocity, which are critical for muscle stimulation. He cites studies suggesting that there is a plateau in muscle growth around six sets per muscle group per session, or about ten sets per week, beyond which additional volume may not yield further benefits. He also touches on the importance of individual training status, noting that advanced trainees may require different approaches, such as focusing on regional hypertrophy or activating underutilized muscle fibers, rather than simply increasing training volume.

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🔍 Beyond Volume: Advanced Training Strategies for Growth

In the final paragraph, Carter shifts the focus from volume to more nuanced training strategies for advanced trainees. He argues that as individuals become more trained, the priority should shift from adding volume to increasing motor unit recruitment or targeting specific areas for regional hypertrophy. He provides an example of how training loaded hip flexion could lead to growth in the proximal part of the muscle due to its biomechanical role. Carter concludes by reiterating that volume is not the ultimate goal in muscle training and that a more sophisticated approach is necessary for continued growth and development.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Volume

Volume in the context of the video refers to the amount of training a person does, particularly the number of sets and repetitions in a workout. The video challenges the common belief that 'volume is king' in muscle building, arguing that there is a point of diminishing returns beyond which additional volume does not lead to further muscle growth. The script uses the term to discuss the relationship between the quantity of exercise and its effectiveness in promoting muscle hypertrophy.

💡Motor Unit Recruitment Deficit

This term describes the initial inability of a novice lifter to activate all available muscle fibers, especially the high-threshold motor units that control the largest muscle fibers. The video explains that as training progresses, this deficit is reduced, allowing for the activation of larger muscle fibers, which are key to muscle growth. The concept is central to the argument against excessive volume, as it suggests that beginners can grow rapidly with less volume due to the novel stimulus of training.

💡Type 1 and Type 2 Fibers

Type 1 and Type 2 fibers refer to different types of muscle fibers. Type 1 fibers are more oxidative and have better recovery capabilities, while Type 2 fibers are more glycolytic and more susceptible to damage. The video script explains that the proportion of these fibers in the muscle affects recovery and growth, with Type 1 fibers being more prevalent in beginners, which contributes to their rapid initial muscle growth.

💡Mechanical Tension

Mechanical tension is the stress placed on muscle fibers during resistance training, which is essential for muscle growth. The video emphasizes that mechanical tension, rather than volume, is the primary driver of muscle hypertrophy. It suggests that focusing on exercises that create sufficient mechanical tension is more important than simply increasing the number of sets and repetitions.

💡Fatigue Interference

Fatigue interference in the script refers to the reduction in motor unit recruitment that occurs as a person becomes fatigued during a workout. This concept is used to explain why longer rest periods between sets can be beneficial, as they allow for better recovery and thus the ability to maintain high levels of motor unit recruitment and mechanical tension throughout a workout.

💡Rest Periods

Rest periods are the intervals of rest taken between sets during a workout. The video discusses the impact of rest periods on muscle growth, suggesting that longer rest periods can be more effective for muscle hypertrophy because they reduce fatigue and allow for greater motor unit recruitment in subsequent sets.

💡High-Threshold Motor Unit Pool

The high-threshold motor unit pool is a group of motor units that control the largest and most powerful muscle fibers. The video explains that as training progresses, individuals can activate more of these motor units, which are crucial for significant muscle growth. However, these fibers are also the most susceptible to damage and fatigue, which is why the video argues against excessive volume.

💡Myofiber Hypertrophy

Myofiber hypertrophy, or muscle fiber growth, is the increase in size of muscle fibers in response to training. The video script discusses how mechanical tension leads to myofiber hypertrophy, and it emphasizes that the quality of the stimulus (i.e., the mechanical tension) is more important than the quantity of training volume.

💡Mechanotransduction

Mechanotransduction is the process by which mechanical signals are converted into biochemical responses within cells. In the context of the video, it refers to how mechanical tension from exercise is translated into muscle growth signals within muscle fibers. The script uses this term to explain the biological pathway through which exercise leads to muscle hypertrophy.

💡Regional Hypertrophy

Regional hypertrophy is the concept of targeting specific areas of the muscle for growth. The video suggests that as individuals become more advanced in their training, they may need to focus on specific regions of the muscle to continue seeing progress, rather than simply increasing overall training volume.

💡Progressive Overload

Progressive overload is the gradual increase of stress placed upon the body during exercise to cause adaptation and growth. While not explicitly mentioned in the script, the concept is implied in the discussion of how beginners can benefit from the novel stimulus of training and how advanced trainees need to focus on more specific adaptations, such as regional hypertrophy or increased motor unit recruitment.

Highlights

The video discusses the misconception that 'volume is king' in the context of training and muscle growth.

Explains the concept of motor unit recruitment deficit for beginners in training and its impact on muscle fiber activation.

Details the physiological differences between type one and type two muscle fibers in terms of oxidative capacity and recovery.

Clarifies that as training progresses, the ability to activate the largest muscle fibers increases, but they are also more susceptible to damage.

Discusses how fatigue during a workout affects motor unit recruitment and the subsequent impact on muscle fiber activation.

Argues that adequate rest between sets is crucial for reducing fatigue interference and maximizing muscle growth stimulus.

Contrasts the effects of long and short rest periods on the number of sets required for optimal muscle stimulation.

States that mechanical tension, not volume, is the key factor in muscle growth and provides examples of how it can be achieved.

Criticizes the oversimplification of volume as the sole determinant of muscle growth and emphasizes the importance of mechanical tension.

Presents research findings suggesting six sets per muscle group per session or ten sets per week as a plateau for muscle growth stimulus.

Advises that the optimal amount of volume may vary depending on the individual's training status and experience.

Highlights the need for studies on both untrained and trained individuals to better understand training adaptations.

Discourages the focus on studies involving the use of performance-enhancing drugs, as they add unnecessary complexity to training physiology.

Suggests that as trainees become more advanced, the focus should shift from volume to motor unit recruitment and regional hypertrophy.

Provides an example of targeting specific muscle regions for hypertrophy that have been previously neglected in training.

Concludes that volume is not the ultimate factor for muscle growth, and advanced trainees should focus on more nuanced training strategies.

Transcripts

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all right what's up everybody Paul

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Carter here I got my backwards hat on I

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got my breakfast eating up so if you you

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hear my oatmeal ding I am going to eat

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my breakfast probably while I'm doing

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this video if you don't like that if

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you're one of those people has that

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condition where hearing other people

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chew food makees you you have a seizure

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meltdown go ahead and exit out now the

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topic for today is the never ending

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topic centered around volume and one of

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the most annoying phrases that I get to

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hear from people that are volume pundits

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are is volume is keing now I'm going to

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take you guys through the actual

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physiology to try to help you understand

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why that statement is so completely

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backwards and

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wrong so let's start at the time when

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you first start training when you first

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start training you have what's called a

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motor unit recruitment deficit which

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means you can only activate fibers

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that's my oat

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mil so you can only activate

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fibers up so far on the high threshold

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motor unit recruitment uh pool that's

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part of Hitman size principle

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so there there'll be a mix of type one

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and you'll get some type two fibers in

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there of course because it's not we

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don't know the exact ratio between fiber

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types as you go up the motor unit

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recruitment uh pool

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but when you start training you do have

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a deficit of course because you can't

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get all the way up and recruit the

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largest fibers that you could and will

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eventually activate if you train long

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enough so when you start training you're

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really getting you're mechanically

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loading fibers that have never

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experienced mechanical tension um so

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you're climbing high up on the high

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threshold motor unit pool to activate

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those fibers and so they grow pretty

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rapidly because of the fact that that is

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a brand new novel stimulus right the

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other thing is your recovery ability is

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going to be at your all-time high during

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that time because of the fact that most

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of those fibers are going to be type one

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and type one fibers have they're more

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oxidative so they have more

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mitochondrial density so they're able to

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have better protective mechanisms right

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away against muscle damage than type two

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fibers which are more glycolytic and

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more easily

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damaged okay so with that out of the way

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what I help you understand is is that as

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we are able to reduce that motor unit

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recruitment deficit and we're able to

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climb up that high threshold motor unit

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pool and we're able to actually activate

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the largest fibers that we have in our

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body as I said those fibers will grow to

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larger degrees but they're the most

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easily damaged and then the second part

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is as fatigue is occurred from each set

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that we perform within the workout as

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fatigue happens there's a reduction in

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motor unit recruitment so if you think

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about you know going up the the high

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threshold motor how do I do this high

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threshold motor your pool starting here

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as we do the set we get all the way up

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to here and we get the largest fiber

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types that we have access to and then

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the sub subsequent sets after that see

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I'm using subsequent corre correctly

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this morning I had enough coffee so as

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we go up in those subsequent sets we

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can't get quite as high up on the high

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threshold motor unit scale so we're not

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able to

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continuously recruit the largest fibers

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over and over and over and over again

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this is why when you look at the volume

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studies where there's adequate rest

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because what adequate rest we reduce

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some of the fatigue interference

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mechanisms um we allow cardiorespiratory

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demands kind of come back uh to normal

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we allow metabolites to sub subside more

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and when we do that we're able to reduce

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the fatigue interference effects which

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is why we consistently see that we can

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kind of max out our gains with longer

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rest period periods and it takes fewer

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sets to do that whereas if we take

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shorter rest periods it takes about

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twice as many sets to get the same

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amount of gross stimulus as we do with

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longer rest periods so all of that

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physiologically fits in perfectly so the

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reason why volume can't and never was

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King is because of the fact that as I

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just noted as you get rid of that motor

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unit recruitment deficit we can't even

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get back up to mechanically load those

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largest fibers that are controlled by

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the top end of the high threshold old

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motor unit pool so if the sciency stuff

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you know if it's it's really really

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nerdtastic and you don't like it I

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understand that that's cool but I'm also

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just trying to help help you understand

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like why it is that volume can't be the

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king the king is mechanical tension you

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could do one set super far away from

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failure and you could do one set to

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failure and that one set two failure is

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going to have some stimulating

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repetitions in it that will help kind of

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as my Mr says turn on the muscle

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building mechanical Machinery or however

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he says that I'm not doing the Min

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impression two days in a row so if you

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have one set to failure you actually can

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grow from one set to failure if you

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repeat it often enough that's a

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completely different topic so but you

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can perform a multitude of sets that are

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really far away from failure and not get

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very much gross stimulus and we've seen

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that in a multitude of studies the Han

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study was one uh there was another

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velocity loss based study that showed

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that they did more sets trying to make

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up for not reaching the same degree of

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velocity loss and they still didn't get

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as much muscle growth meaning volume is

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not King mechanical tension is king So

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you need a sufficient amount of

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mechanical tension in order to kind of

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maximize the gross stimulus I'm not even

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eating at this point guys so how

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much that kind of establishes the fact

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the volume's not ke so now we're getting

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into the volume

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stuff we're asking

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the the question I always ask what is

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the amount of volume so when we talk

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about volume let's do this again the

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only volume that

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matters is the volume where there's a

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high degree of motor unit Recruitment

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and there and there's a slowing of

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contraction velocity that's mechanical

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tension so the only volume that matters

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are steps that we're doing that are

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either very close to failure or to

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failure those are the only only ones

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that matter volume was King could just

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still a whole bunch of

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sets and you would grow and it doesn't

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work that way you got to have mechanical

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tension that gets converted via mechano

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transduction that gets converted into a

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biological process which causes us to

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have muscle growth by way of myop fial

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uh uh

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um um not sarir Genesis myi Genesis took

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me a

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minute

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so how much volume does it look like in

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the data that we need to maximize growth

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I get misquoted of this consistently so

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if you're using longer rest periods what

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it appears is that somewhere around six

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sets there's a plateau and that's for a

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muscle group and a training session for

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the week there was an umbrella review

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which means they basically did a review

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of all the MAA analysis and said they

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couldn't find anything collectively that

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look like more than 10 sets for a muscle

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group in a week um was needed so so they

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found that a weekly Plateau kind of

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occurred around 10 sets those kind of

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match right so if you're looking at

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around six sets for a muscle in a

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session or 10 total sets in a week

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that's close enough where you can get an

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idea that more than

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likely to get to that where there's a

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point of diminishing returns because

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there's a nonlinear relationship of the

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dose response right volume to grow

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stimulus so if you're getting getting to

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a point where there is the diminishing

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returns for muscle group in in a session

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appears to be somewhere around six sets

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and again this always comes back to

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people misquoting me and they'll say why

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aren't you doing six sets for a muscle

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group in a session or why are you not

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programming six sets for a muscle group

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in a session nobody said that was the

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optimal amount what they said was that's

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kind of where the plateau appears to

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start and then somebody will twist those

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words and say well wouldn't you want to

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work all the way up to the plateau you

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could but if you go back to my original

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part there where I said The more

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Advanced you become the higher up on the

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motor unit pool that you can climb the

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larger fibers that you can activate

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which are the mo damag the most easily

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and also take the longer to recover even

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though they have the greatest potential

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for growth means that you may not need

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six sets or that six sets could be

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detrimental to you it all depends on

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your training status so you have to

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remember sometimes that the studies are

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collective right so when we look at

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these and say it's nine studies and they

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all fa in the same thing but it's a

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collective this so sometimes there's

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trained and sometimes there's untrained

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and I think sometimes people do not

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understand the difference we need

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studies on untrained people and we need

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studies on trained people and then we

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can kind of look at the magnitude of

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specific adaptations that are occurring

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from certain kinds of training so we

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need untrain and train studies we don't

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need studies on dudes on gear we don't

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and I've heard that from people on

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YouTube I've heard it online whatever

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like we don't even have training studies

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on people on gear that HS a whole

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different level of complexity that we

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know nothing about and that we don't

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even need we want to understand the

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physiology we don't need to understand

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androgens unless somebody wants to go

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out and start studying that but it's not

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going to tell us anything that we need

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to know about training we do understand

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100% you can take steroids and just sit

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at home and grow so most likely from

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what it appears to me is you get a

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stimulus from training and a stimulus

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from the steroids and there you go

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there's your total stimulus like your

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total growth effect there could be more

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to it but the truth is I really don't

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care because I've been off for a long

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time

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so back to the is volume King as you get

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more trained volume unequivocally cannot

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be king because of the mechanisms that

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we just talked about you're going to be

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able to recruit larger high threshold

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motor units which control the largest of

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your fibers you're going to be able to

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get to which are the most easily damaged

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and they're going to be the first ones

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that are going to be reduced for you to

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recruit once fatigue does set in so

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doing enormous amounts of volume as you

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can get more trained is completely

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counterproductive to the goal of

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continuing to grow what becomes more

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Paramount as you continue to grow is to

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learn and develop the ability to

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basically get to higher degrees of motor

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unit Improvement or to get maybe

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potentially some Regional hypertrophy in

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certain areas that you haven't been

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training for example this is one that

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came up in a discussion I had the other

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day let's say you've never really

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trained loaded hip flexion really this

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part here so the proximal part of the

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fim grows better because that's what it

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does it crosses at the Joint at the hip

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crosses the hip it's going to grow

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proximal due to that hip flexion so if

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you're like hey I've never done that I

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want to get some of that wck fil growth

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in there in that proximal portion let's

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say you're a really Advanced body

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builder and that's kind of an area

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you're lacking in you could do some hip

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loaded hip flexion rather than just

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continuing with leg extensions so what

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you need to do is as you become more

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well trained and I'm talking about well

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Tred people I think beginners and

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intermediates can can in fact do a lot

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of basic stuff and progressively

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overload those for a very long period of

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time and max out a lot of gains but as

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you become more trained now you're

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literally getting down to a very

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granular level of I'm going to get some

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hypertrophy here in this region and here

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in this region here in this region and

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then it becomes a lot more of a focusing

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on how do I actually get some activation

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out of fibers I have not been using so I

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hope that explains the reasoning why

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volume cannot be keen and that at a

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certain point it's not about adding more

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volume it's about increasing motor unit

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recruitment or potentially getting some

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Regional hypertrophy in places that you

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just have not been trained that's my

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YouTube for the day hope you guys

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enjoyed it have a blessed day

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