International Women's Day is a Fake Holiday - Louise Perry Subscriber Q&A | Maiden Mother Matriarch
Summary
TLDRThe speaker shares a critical perspective on International Women's Day, viewing it as a recent and politically motivated invention. They express discomfort with the propaganda and politicization of the day, noting its origins in socialist and suffragette movements. The speaker also discusses the renaming of London transport lines to reflect feminist and marginalized histories, questioning the portrayal of suffragettes as heroes. They argue that the day reflects a broader societal trend of valuing weakness and marginalization, which they liken to a Christian heresy. Despite their skepticism, they acknowledge the day's role in highlighting women's issues and the preferential treatment women sometimes receive due to a 'women are wonderful' bias.
Takeaways
- 🎤 The speaker finds International Women's Day somewhat unnecessary and believes it primarily benefits female pundits with increased media opportunities.
- 📅 International Women's Day is a recent invention, dating back to the early 20th century, with explicitly political origins rooted in socialist and suffragette movements.
- 🚫 The speaker dislikes the compulsory political nature of the day and its association with propaganda, especially since the original intent has shifted over time.
- 🚇 The renaming of London transport lines for International Women's Day is cited as an example of the politicization of the event.
- 💥 The speaker criticizes the romanticization of the suffragettes, who were once considered terrorists, and the confusion between suffragettes and suffragists.
- 👦 The existence of International Men's Day is mentioned, highlighting the disparity in attention and importance given to men's rights versus women's rights.
- 🕍 Wokeness is described as a Christian heresy, embracing the idea that virtue lies in weakness and that marginalized groups deserve special recognition.
- 👩 Women are seen as lower status than men cross-culturally, yet simultaneously protected and adored due to a cognitive bias known as 'women are wonderful'.
- 📉 The speaker argues that women's lower status is not necessarily due to misogyny but is more akin to the status of children in society.
- 🤔 The speaker expresses indifference towards International Women's Day, except for its potential to offer personal benefits such as speaking engagements.
- 🌐 The script provides a critical perspective on the politics of gender and the role of International Women's Day in contemporary society.
Q & A
What is the speaker's initial opinion on International Women's Day?
-The speaker finds International Women's Day a bit dumb and silly, as they believe it primarily benefits female pundits and media figures who are invited to speak on the day.
How does the speaker feel about the origins of International Women's Day?
-The speaker acknowledges that International Women's Day has its roots in socialist, suffragist, and early feminist movements, but they express dissatisfaction with how it has evolved into a more politically neutral celebration.
What is the speaker's view on the politicization of International Women's Day?
-The speaker dislikes the politicization of the day, feeling that it has strayed from its political origins and now often focuses on less controversial 'girl power' themes.
How does the speaker react to the renaming of London transport lines by Sadiq Khan?
-The speaker finds the renaming to be a break with tradition and criticizes it for being politically motivated, particularly since some of the names chosen have a 'woke' or politically correct connotation.
What is the speaker's take on the suffragettes and suffragists?
-The speaker differentiates between the suffragettes, who were a more extremist and violent group, and the suffragists, a larger and more moderate group. They argue that the suffragettes' actions were not necessarily what led to women's suffrage.
How does the speaker view the concept of 'wokeness'?
-The speaker sees 'wokeness' as a kind of Christian heresy that values weakness and marginalization, and criticizes it for promoting an idea that is not universally accepted across different cultures and religions.
What does the speaker believe about the status of women in society?
-The speaker believes that women are generally considered lower status than men cross-culturally, but this does not equate to hatred or misogyny. Instead, women are often simultaneously protected and adored.
How does the speaker explain the 'women are wonderful' bias?
-The speaker describes a cognitive bias where people tend to prefer women over men in various scenarios, such as saving a life or doing a good deed, due to an ingrained preference for women.
What is the speaker's perspective on International Men's Day?
-The speaker mentions that International Men's Day does not receive the same attention as International Women's Day, which some men's rights activists interpret as evidence of men being an oppressed group. However, the speaker does not believe this to be the case.
Why does the speaker think International Women's Day exists as a phenomenon?
-The speaker suggests that International Women's Day exists because it aligns with the political dogma of valorizing low-status groups, and women, being perceived as lower status, receive special attention and recognition.
How does the speaker summarize their feelings towards International Women's Day?
-The speaker is largely indifferent towards International Women's Day, except for the potential personal benefit of receiving speaking engagements. They find it an interesting phenomenon in terms of sexual politics.
Outlines
💭 Opinion on International Women's Day
The speaker begins by sharing a skeptical view on International Women's Day, suggesting it primarily benefits female pundits and media figures who are invited to speak on the occasion. They express indifference towards the day itself but criticize the propaganda and political nature of the celebration, which originated from socialist and suffragist movements. The speaker also discusses the recent renaming of London transport lines to reflect more 'woke' values, including those honoring the suffragettes, which they find ironic given the suffragettes' extremist actions.
🤔 The Paradox of Women's Status and International Women's Day
The speaker delves into the paradox of women's status in society, noting that while women are often protected and adored, they are also considered lower status than men. They argue that 'wokeness' is a Christian heresy that values weakness and marginalization, which is reflected in the focus on women for International Women's Day. The speaker also addresses the concept of 'women are wonderful' bias, where women are given preferential treatment, and how this contributes to the celebration of women on International Women's Day.
🧐 Understanding the Roots of Women's Status and Celebration
The speaker explores the historical and cultural roots of women's lower status, comparing it to that of children. They argue that women's treatment in law and society has often mirrored that of children, with limited rights and independence. The speaker concludes that International Women's Day exists and is celebrated because it aligns with the political dogma of valorizing low-status groups, and because women, due to their status, are beneficiaries of this bias.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡International Women's Day
💡Propaganda
💡Socialist Movements
💡Woke
💡Suffragettes
💡Wokeism
💡International Men's Day
💡Sex and Gender Politics
💡Status
💡Wokeness
💡Cognitive Bias
Highlights
The speaker finds International Women's Day somewhat unnecessary and propagandistic.
International Women's Day benefits certain women, like media figures, who get more opportunities to speak.
The day is seen as a recent invention, dating back to the early 20th century with political roots in socialist and suffragette movements.
The current celebration of International Women's Day has shifted from its political origins to more 'girl power' themes.
The speaker criticizes the politicization of public spaces, such as the London transport network, in the name of wokeness.
The renaming of transport lines to reflect historical and cultural movements is seen as a political act.
The suffragettes are remembered as freedom fighters, but the speaker notes their extremist and violent tactics.
The speaker differentiates between suffragettes and suffragists, highlighting their contrasting approaches and impacts.
The politicization of International Women's Day is contrasted with the lack of attention given to International Men's Day.
The concept of wokeness is discussed as a Christian heresy, valuing weakness and marginalization.
The speaker argues that women are generally considered lower status than men cross-culturally, but not necessarily hated.
The 'women are wonderful' bias is introduced, explaining preferential treatment towards women in certain contexts.
The speaker suggests that women's lower status is linked to perceptions of them being more childlike than men.
The historical treatment of women is likened to that of children, with limited legal rights and independence.
International Women's Day is viewed as a phenomenon that capitalizes on the status of women and the ideology of wokeness.
The speaker expresses indifference towards International Women's Day, except for potential personal benefits.
The discussion serves as a critique of sexual politics and the role of women in society.
Transcripts
[Music]
hi everyone I've got a nice simple
question from Jessica for this week's
AMA which is um what is your opinion on
International women's day um I guess the
short answer is I think it's a bit dumb
basically the only women in the world
who benefit from the existence of
international women's day um
female pundits including me who are more
likely to get invited on the Telly or to
do speaking engagements or whatever
because media and other organizations
are looking for women to speak on
International women's day and to speak
about women's things so you know at the
risk of look looking at gift horse in
the mouth I think it's a bit silly I
don't
really I don't care that much either way
except that I don't love the propaganda
effort that it represents
right so International women's day
unlike mothering Sunday or Valentine's
Day or any of these other festivals sort
of folk festivals is not a long-standing
celebration it is a recent invention it
dates back to the early 20th century and
more importantly it's always been sort
of explicitly political so it was always
it's so from the beginning it was an
idea spawn by um socialist movements and
suffer
movements and I I guess early well first
wave feminist groups to draw attention
to um women political problems that
women have experienced it obviously
hasn't really turned into that's not
really what it's about now the stuff
that gets run in the papers on
International women's day tends not to
be politically controversial it tends to
be
um girl bossy kind of girl power stuff
which is obviously um slightly annoying
I I don't really like these sort of
compulsory political holidays so people
outside the UK UK might not be aware of
this but recently the London mercied K I
live in London renamed some um parts of
the London transport network uh with
breaking
convention so normally the London um
tube network is named after either where
the tube uh line goes or after monarch
of some kind there's the Victoria line
and the g line and the Elizabeth line
and so on monarchs I mean
obviously di hard Republicans would say
that monarchs are political figures but
that that the constitutional monarchy
that we have now is kind of deliberately
non-political it's a safe neutral thing
to name a tube line after what sadik
Khan has done breaking with that
tradition is he has named the lines
after I basically woke things right for
for want for better terms
so um the suffragette line is one of
them the wind Rush line so that's
referring to the first wave of Caribbean
migration to the UK postwar and uh the
lioness's line um named after the
English women's football and the mild
mayine which is named after a hospital
which um was involved in
the uh HIV and AIDS crisis of the 80s in
particular and has done good work and
treating patients obviously the function
of so so like 2third of the names were
had some kind of political had some kind
of like identity
politics relevance right and so you got
two for women I mean the funny thing
about Sreet one is that um people
remember the suffragettes now as being
these Freedom Fighters the suffragettes
were terrorists the suffragettes tried
to kill people it's quite bizarre that
they didn't end up killing people
because they tried loads and loads of
times they were just bad at building
bombs they were a very extremist group
suffragists who were the much larger and
more moderate group of suffrage
activists didn't like the suffragettes
and thought that they were really
damaging the cause which they probably
were and also it probably actually had
nothing to do like their activism
probably didn't
really like lead to women's suffrage
given that women's suffrage was secured
in all parts of the developed world at
basically the same time probably had a
lot more to do with both the first World
War
and with other economic and
technological changes that's probably
for another day anyway it's really weird
to be valorizing the suffer Jets now 100
years later particularly when City KH
put out tweets kind of promoting this
and he used a picture of ment fer who
was famously not a suffragette she was a
suffragist the suffragettes and the
suffragists did not like each other very
much
anyway I don't like this politicized I
don't like compulsory political stuff in
this this I don't like this
partisan stuff okay particularly when
it's dressed up as not being partisan
and it's one of the things that I don't
like about International women's day
very much there is obviously an
international men's day lots of men's
rights activists who are incredibly
annoying will make a big fuss about oh
when's International men's day you know
right there there's like a grain of
Truth there in the sense that people
don't really care about International
Men's Day whereas International women's
day gets a lot of fanfare men's rights
activists interpret this as being
evidence that men are an oppressed group
I don't think that's true I think that
the reason
why well okay so going back to the the
the the tube lines
thing wokeness takes of a kind of core
Christian
idea which is that there is virtue in
being weak and that you know that that
the first shall be last and the last
shall be first okay that we should we
should valorize and protect the
weak and we should humble the strong you
know that's a that's a it's it's a
Christian idea it's it's not an idea as
Tom Holland makes very clear in his book
Dominion it's not an idea that's shared
across other religious Traditions by any
means it's certainly not an idea that
Roman society in which Christianity
emerged believed in at all it was a very
radical idea at the time I think wokeism
should probably has be understood as a
Christian heresy in the sense that it
rejects a lot of other Christian ideas
right workism Embrace Embraces abortion
Embraces
euthanasia the completely incompatible
with Christianity in that sense but it
does take this idea that there's
something really good about being weak
and there's something particularly
virtuous about being um being
marginalized being oppressed um that
makes people worthy of um veneration
you like you look at the the I me
basically the groups that that wokeness
is is interested in prizing and
representing are groups who are
oppressed either historically or now or
groups that are underperforming in some
way or groups that are disliked in some
way
basically
the people at the margins I mean I'm
kind of I'm I'm W like w people will say
this licitly right like this isn't a
secret this is this is this is at the
center of the of the
ideology the reason why women benefit
from this well the the reason why women
are a focus of concern in this ideology
the reason why women are getting two New
London overground lines is because women
are lower status than men right is I
bang on about this all the time but I
think it's true and I think it's an
important I think it's important in in
order to understand what's going on with
feminism and and the relationship
between men and women in
general women are lower status than men
this is cross-culturally
true that doesn't mean that women are
hated that doesn't mean that all
cultures are misogynist necessarily
people really hating women is or men
really hating women it does happen
obviously but it's actually quite
unusual I think that the best way of
understanding the way in which women are
generally regarded
is that they are
simultaneously actually kind
of protected and adored right so there's
this cognitive bias um called the women
are wonderful bias so basically test
subjects if they're asked um whether
they
prefer particular individuals you know
and and and and changing sex as the
variable they will tend to prefer women
if they're given the opportunity to save
someone's life or to do a good deed to
someone they're more likely to save the
woman or do a good deed to the woman
women actually get sort of preferential
treatment right from both men and women
in this cognitive because of this
cognitive bias so that doesn't really
square right with cultures being
misogynist at all but at the same time
things that are associated with women
are often considered to be lower status
you know you'll have noticed that boys
being sissies is considered to be very
terrible very low status very much to be
avoided girls being Tom boys is kind of
fine no one really cares like there is
the when I was at school I remember that
I um a a playground insult was eight or
nine or something a playground insult
was just just to call someone a woman
right and there are lots of other
playground insults which do the same
thing which basically say you're you're
girly you're throw like a girl
this kind of stuff it's particularly
insulting thing to say to boys there's
this long there's this very deeply held
view that women are
just women are just lower status than
men women are lower status than men but
women are also loved at the same time
it's quite confusing right and I think
that the best way of understanding
what's going on is that women are
basically considered to be child
adjacent women are considered to be much
more childlike than are men and children
in the same way are considered to
be lower status right so referring to
someone as being immature or juvenile or
whatever is insulting but we also love
children and given a choice between
saving a child's life and saving an
adult's life people will Che save the
child's life it has exactly that that
that Paradox that's at the the heart of
how women are regarded as well so and
and if you look at historically how
women are treated in a legal sense and
so on being denied the vote not being
able to drive not being able to make um
independent decisions not having a
independent legal identity being able to
own property and so on again it's women
having the rights of children or having
rights that are more like those of
children than like those of men so all
of wish is to say the reason why
International women's day exists as a
phenomenon why it why it caught on is
precisely because one we have this kind
of Christian heresy which has become
political Dogma where groups that are
low status for whatever reason um not
always I mean like I don't know
pedophiles are an exception to this or
something but the thing that that that
workers does generally is try and scoop
up these kind of groups marginalized on
the basis of certain identity factors
and women get that special treatment
because we because everyone kind of
knows we're L status so we sort of
definitionally end up like grouped with
the low status people who who get all
this um special like political all these
empty political prizes also because
women benefit from the women a wonderful
bias so it's kind of nice to have
international women's day and to be um
everyone say nice things about women so
I mean I'm I don't in
conclusion I don't really care about
International women's day except to the
extent that maybe I could get some I
know lucrative speaking gigs or
something that would be nice but um
generally yeah I don't really care about
it but I do think that it's quite an
interesting phenomenon in terms of being
a very good example of what I think is
going on in terms of sexal politics
[Music]
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