This Is What They Don’t Want You to Know About the Climate Agenda
Summary
TLDRAstrophysicist Willie Soon discusses the origins of fossil fuels, arguing they may have a non-biological origin deep underground instead of coming from ancient forests and dinosaurs. He critiques climate change science, claiming rising CO2 levels have negligible impact and that changes are likely solar-driven. He alleges data manipulation in prominent climate studies, condemns IPCC processes as politically compromised, and accuses figures like Al Gore of scientific dishonesty. Soon advocates for nuclear power and laments politicized funding determining allowable research topics. He sees hints of God in elegant mathematical solutions predicting later discoveries like antimatter.
Takeaways
- 😲 Hydrocarbons like oil and gas can be created without biology, just under high pressure - evidence shows this happens deep inside planets
- 😮 There's evidence oil and gas exist outside biology - one of Saturn's moons has huge reserves
- 🤔 If oil and gas aren't all from ancient fossils, the assumptions about limited supplies and climate impact could be wrong
- 😠 IPCC climate reports seem politically motivated, not purely scientific
- 🧐 Evidence shows concrete and asphalt in cities raise temperatures more than CO2 - this could explain perceived warming
- 😕 Funding structures pressure and limit scientists from publishing conclusions against establishment views
- 🌞 Evidence suggests variation in the sun's brightness causes climate change far more than CO2 does
- 🙏 Mathematical solutions pre-dating real world discoveries suggest metaphysical forces at play to some scientists
- ⚖️ Science progress requires transparency, open debate and freedom to challenge existing ideas
- 😇 Focusing on conservation, innovation and empowering people offers more hope than restrictive government policies
Q & A
What evidence does Dr. Soon provide that oil and gas can be produced without biological sources?
-Dr. Soon discusses evidence from Saturn's moon Titan, which has large oceans of liquid methane and ethane despite having no life. He also cites lab experiments recreating conditions deep underground to produce hydrocarbons without biology.
How does Dr. Soon explain past climate changes like the Little Ice Age?
-Dr. Soon provides extensive evidence that fluctuations in solar activity, specifically changes in brightness and sunspot activity, correlate well with past climate shifts like the Little Ice Age and Medieval Warm Period.
What does Dr. Soon think is the primary driver of recent warming if not CO2?
-Dr. Soon believes changes in solar activity are likely responsible for most recent warming, but he admits the scientific community does not have 100% certainty on what is causing climate change.
Why does Dr. Soon believe the hockey stick temperature graph is flawed?
-Dr. Soon takes issues with the hockey stick graph's lack of Medieval Warm Period and Little Ice Age. He also notes the warming trend begins before meaningful human CO2 emissions.
What does Dr. Soon believe is the role of funding in silencing scientists?
-Dr. Soon argues that reliance on government funding leads many scientists to stay silent instead of questioning the consensus on climate change and CO2's role.
How does Dr. Soon rebut calls to phase out fossil fuels?
-Dr. Soon points out that even with massive investments, wind and solar only provide a small fraction of global energy needs. He advocates for next-generation nuclear power as a better path forward.
What evidence does Dr. Soon cite for issues in peer-reviewed climate science literature?
-Dr. Soon boldly claims 80-90% of modern climate science papers should not have passed peer review. He sees extensive problems from groupthink and reliance on faulty surface temperature datasets.
What mathematical discoveries lead Dr. Soon to see glimpses of God?
-Dr. Soon discusses mathematical formulations that predicted later scientific discoveries, like antimatter from Dirac's equations. These give him faith in an ever-present creative force.
How does Dr. Soon rebut arguments to 'save the planet' from climate change?
-Dr. Soon challenges those claiming ability to 'save the planet,' questioning their moral authority to prescribe conditions for all humanity based on highly uncertain science.
What does Dr. Soon believe is the ultimate solution for issues in modern science?
-Dr. Soon believes renewed focus on independence, transparency, accountability, and virtues like courage and honesty will help address deep problems across many scientific fields.
Outlines
🌍 The misleading theory about the fossil fuel origins and implications
Paragraph 1 discusses the common belief that fossil fuels like oil, natural gas and coal come from ancient organic materials like forests and plankton. But there is evidence this may not be fully true - hydrocarbons are found deep under oceans and on other planets. This raises questions about where they actually come from, why this isn't commonly known, and what it means for climate change policies that target fossil fuel use.
💡 The ultimate resource is human innovation, not limited materials
Paragraph 2 relates to economist Julian Simon's idea that the ultimate resource is human ingenuity, not limited physical materials. Just as only a portion of oil reserves can currently be extracted, innovation and technology can make more accessible over time. The biogenic theory shows oil can form without biology under the right temperature and pressure conditions.
😤 IPCC and leading figures spread half-truths and refuse questions
Paragraph 3 criticizes the IPCC and public figures like Al Gore and John Kerry for making simple claims about climate change but refusing to explain the mechanics or address basic questions. Over 30 years studying climate, Willie Soon is convinced CO2 does not drive climate change - factors like sun cycles better explain historical variations.
☀️ Sunspot cycles and Earth orbits explain historical climate shifts
Paragraph 4 describes how fluctuations in solar brightness and Earth's orbit closely match historical climate shifts like the Little Ice Age and Medieval Warm Period. IPCC tries to downplay these natural causes to claim CO2 drives warming, but the evidence shows tiny solar variations have huge climate effects.
🚫 Groupthink and funding bias infect climate science publications
Paragraph 5 examines the Maunder solar minimum when sunspots disappeared as evidence of solar effects on climate. It then critiques Michael Mann's debunked hockey stick graph as an example of mathematical models being promoted over data. Soon believes 80-90% of today's climate science literature is too flawed for publication.
💰 Climate science follows the money and political agenda, not truth
Paragraph 6 argues today's climate science is corrupted by a biased funding structure incentivizing alarmist positions. Though most scientists likely disagree with IPCC conclusions in private, fear and groupthink prevent dissent. Policy should rely on evidence, not claims of consensus or polling.
🤦♂️ IPCC denies inconvenient critiques on absurd procedural grounds
Paragraph 7 shares how the IPCC excluded Willie Soon's comprehensive research on solar effects on climate for arbitrary reasons regarding publication timing. This demonstrates how the IPCC is not actually interested in considering all evidence, only that which aligns with its existing positions and agenda.
⚛️ Nuclear and fossil fuels safely support humanity's needs
Paragraph 8 calculates fossil fuels and advanced nuclear technology could provide abundant energy for thousands of years if fully leveraged. But irrational fears and overregulation prevent nuclear adoption while specious climate alarmism threatens fossil fuels. Renewables like solar and wind remain negligible despite trillions spent.
📐 Symmetry in physics equations reveal glimpses of the divine
Paragraph 9 shares how physics sometimes reveals symmetry or conceptual links that seem almost supernatural in origin. This sense of profound order and internal consistency offer Willie Soon glimpses of the divine or God's role in structuring the cosmos in elegant mathematical ways.
🙏 Seeking moral authority to transform society requires humility
Paragraph 10 argues figures like Al Gore wrongly claim enough moral authority to advocate drastic societal changes. But no one can predict the impacts of climate action or has the wisdom to prescribe global solutions. This ambition reflects a dangerous loss of humility before nature's complexity.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡fossil fuels
💡hydrocarbons
💡climate change
💡CO2
💡funding
💡solar variations
💡urban heat islands
💡scientific method
💡God
💡authority
Highlights
Hydrocarbons are not all from fossils, they can be produced by simulating conditions under Earth's crust
Saturn's moon Titan has oceans of liquid methane and ethane, suggesting hydrocarbons exist without biology
The ultimate resource is not materials but human innovation and imagination
CO2 does not significantly impact climate - it won't change hurricanes, droughts or polar bears
The hockey stick graph showing flat temperatures before 1900 is mathematically produced, not real data
Warming began before meaningful human CO2 emissions, contradicting the CO2 theory
Climate change consensus is influenced by funding incentives, but many scientists likely disagree
Concrete and asphalt are raising temperatures from urban heat islands, not CO2
Rural temperature data tells a different story than the widely reported datasets
IPCC climate reports are substandard, political products that most real science does not support
Safe, efficient nuclear power could provide abundant energy for thousands of years
Despite spending trillions on solar/wind, they provide only 3% of world power
Beautiful mathematical solutions like Dirac's equation suggest an ever-present creative force
80-90% of climate change papers should not have passed peer review, degrading science
America has the foundation for being a great hope for humanity in its Constitutional principles
Transcripts
in the United States we often refer to
our main sources of energy as fossil
fuels oil natural gas coal they're
fossil fuels because they come from
fossils ancient organic material forests
jungles Plankton
dinosaurs held under the ground for
Millennia they transform into oil gas
and coal everybody thinks that's true on
the other hand there's evidence that
maybe it's not the whole story if that's
where fossil fuels come from if that's
how hydrocarbons are made then how come
they're found so deep under the oceans
and at the top of the Earth how come one
of Saturn's moons according to
scientists has more oil and natural gas
than Earth were there dinosaurs and
planktons and forests at one point on
one of Saturn's moons probably not so if
all hydrocarbons aren't from fossils
where are they from from and why isn't
this commonly known and what are the
implications of it and what does it tell
us about our modern climate change
policy these are not just esoteric
questions they're Central questions
actually as we chart the future of
energy usage in the world Willie soon
has been thinking about this for a long
time he's an astrophysicist a
geoscientist he spent 31 years at
Harvard he recently left and he joins us
here Dr soon thank you so much thank you
T I appreciate to be able to come on
your show well it's a blessing to have
you and this is such an interesting
question with so many implications um
and I want to spend most of our time
talking about the implications but just
to the strict question of where
hydrocarbons come from it sounds like
they're not necessarily all from ancient
forests or Plankton or dinosaurs are
they yes uh the story can be a bit long
so give me a few minutes to explain you
are certainly right but most important
to clarify is that the information that
is found on the largest moon on on
Saturn which called Titan yes is
actually results from NASA European
space agency and then the Italian space
agency who built this spacecraft called
Cassini and hyan actually one of my
thesis advisor committee is actually
built the UV spectrometer but the one
that they used to discover this
basically the ocean liquid liquid form
of methane which is in aan ethane form
which is much more complicated
hydrocarbon is whole ocean of it because
Titan is in such a way that it's very
cold by the way so it's minus 290 degre
Fahrenheit Yes hint hint hint where is
the global warming that right if it's
full of methane there right that's
another problem because it's far away
from the Sun that's what it is yes and
clearly that the question of a biogenic
meod which mean no no need of any
biology is true because we know actually
one experimental experiment was done in
2009 it was done in Swedish Royal
Academy one of those group but it's done
by one Russian leader he was able to
show that if you
squeeze Matan CH4 in chemical formula so
four hydrogen one carbon squeeze them in
a form that in which they simulate the
condition of the earth menal which is
1,800
miles deep kind of below the surface
because the Earth is deeper right and
it's within this 18 but basically the
condition that is only about 40 to 150
miles in that you actually can form
complex hydrocarbon you got Benzene you
got ethane you got all this other stuff
forming so that prove Beyond doubt that
you have such a way to make this plus
that Titan prove Beyond doubt you
actually see maintain also in all the
atmosphere Jupiter you know you even
find Benzene in the rocks of uh Mars and
then for me astrophysicist I can tell
you even more more you find this complex
hydrocarbon called polycyclic aromatic
hydrocarbon it's another one of those
complex hydrocarbon then actually you
found it in interstellar space between
space within Stars Intergalactic space
these are everywhere because temperature
there are cold and probably the right
pressure condition all this complex
hydrocarbon well that's it's kind of
incredible because all of us including
myself until very recently right assumed
that all of our energy sources are these
so-called fossil fuels and of course
their existence is going to be limited
by the amount of fossiles by the amount
of decaying organic material not so so
if that's not so then we need to rethink
a lot of things a lot I think I think
this one fit into a paradigm a famous uh
Economist that I like very much his name
is uh H Simon do you know about this guy
named Simon jul Simon Julian Simon yeah
the key guy Unity of Illinois and then
Maryland he was the say he was the guy
who said that the ultimate resource of
humanity or Earth is actually not all
this material thing like uranium gold
because uranium there are far more
uranium in the oceans than on the land
right you have 4.5 billion tons of
uranium in the ocean you have only 17
million tons of that gold uh copper what
what what do you want on the ocean it's
all that except they're in very dilute
form yes clearly so the ultimate
resource actually is not that is the
human mind it's it's the Innovation part
of it I think I like that principle a
lot it fits very well in terms of saying
that it's all matter of cost even oil
most I don't know if any any of you know
the audience know that 50 to 60% of the
the all actually all the oil that you
already drill the drill hole there you
can only pull out 40 to 50% of it 60% of
that remains in it because simply
because there's not enough pressure to
get it out this is why the the idea of a
biogenic oil is interesting is true
clearly true it's all matter of cost
really because this thing has the form
way inside the uh the Earth the manal
which is 50 to 100 100 miles right human
how deep have we ever drilled only the
skin which is only five miles maximum
five to you know six mil basically
that's at most that we can do and then
all this stuff had to permit into the
reservoir I I got this information from
the top people that physically have to
look for oil every day one of my friend
Joseph lime cooler from Beacon energy
offshore energy those are the guys who
work day in and day out to bring us the
energy actually the oil that we need so
why why don't most people know this why
do most people think that the the
gasoline in their car was by definition
have to be limited yeah yeah yeah that
there's that there's just a tiny amount
and it's it's going away we'll never
find more the war is full of untruth and
half truth right that's the whole
problem right that's why for so long
even the idea that we are not limited
and bounded by availability of uh let's
say gasoline petroleum or or coal Coal
now they won't allow us to use right as
you know in cop meeting in Dubai that
just ended a day ago they just
physically declared themselves that we
should stop using fossil fuel basically
petroleum natural gas and even Co I mean
these people are insane now really
insane I think they're going to harm
more people with their own illusion plus
I always remember these are people who
actually don't represent the majority
since when that this put up to workot
it's always about this minority the
tyranny of the few always robbing the
whole census the good sensus of the good
people this is part of the reason why as
a scientist I also speak out feel I mean
not afraid of anything except for just
telling the truth and I'm glad to have
this opportunity to say such thing in in
Jos show so I mean if we haven't been
told the truth about where hydrocarbons
come from and we haven't I mean I've
never met a single person in my life who
said wait a second they're not all
fossil fuels then we keep hearing
there's a scientific consensus on
climate change every scientist believes
the same thing about it believes Al Gore
and John KY maybe that's not true either
oh then I can tell you please thank you
for asking that question taka I've been
working on this subject of CO2 causing
climate change or what other fact fa s
we can ask that cause climate to change
for close to As Long As since my post
doctoral year 1991 right so it's about
32 31 years 32 years and on this
question I think we have a very
definitive answer what we know now is
CO2 ain't going to cost nothing it's not
going to change much of the climatic
system which mean it won't change the
speed of the hurricane it won't change
the how fast or how frequent Donado form
it won't it won't even actually make
make any difference to the polar bear
population it's all conservation issue
right on polar bear it won't even cost
how much fish you don't catch or catch
you know it won't even cause what they
call Oceanic it won't even cause this
problem that they claim it's all
artificial everything they do it's all
Dream from their model and the tyranny
of the few again that those few people
just dream up this scary story that is
just a through and then when you come
down to the most responsible group for
this kind of bad stuff I I I was
reminded by my colleague Dr Ronan
Connelly and Michael Connelly my two
coworker with me on my group is to say
that since you know since I work so
carefully and I have about more than a
100 scientists last three years alone
working with me so I don't speak on
behalf of them I speak on behalf of
myself my view is that the un ipcc
united nation intergovernmental panel on
climate change is one of the primary
problem which mean they have been
misleading people they've been using
authority of science which is not true
right it's all governmental hackers
basically right people like John KY who
I guess can barely take a a proper
physics class who keep claiming that
greenhouse effect is so simple right and
then uh he refused to explain how does
it work right I mean he did all of that
that is very terrible that really
embarrassing to America he did that in
Bali in Indonesia several years back
that is just so embarrassed do you think
he can explain how it works
I don't think so even El Gore who
claimed to be know something about
science I challenge El Gore I I did some
of that to with in his face actually I
have I was lucky enough to be in one of
those Wall Street Journal Eco conference
and I was giving you know setting up
with all the UC Santa Barbara Student
please make sure when the question come
out give me the mic I was making friends
with them the night before I explain now
my details of my work so I I got the mic
and ask question about El God because
one of the primary sad thing that they
refuse to recognize that I know you know
that in in even great School uh Sciences
CO2 is a gas of life it when you have
more CO2 the plant kingdom the whole
ecology even the oceans going to have
more basically ability more fishes More
Everything more life more life
essentially that's why it's called gas
of life and these people want to
demonize it as some gas that can cause
global warming can cause hurricane to
run faster or weaker I don't know what
they want to have more rain more
droughts and all these other nonsense
that they claim all of that it's just
insult that's the problem by the way
this is how serious I am I check
everything they say I check as a
scientist you cannot just dismiss them
you cannot laugh at them you cannot you
know chy them you cannot just make joke
of them you check everything so as a
very serious scientist and I published
scientific paper refuting all of this
arguments scientific papers maybe mean
nothing to the average people but it's
really important it's like a document
that you have to document and then put
out the proper scientific arguments
about what is right what is wrong so
that's what we have been doing at at my
particular Center called series-
sign.com so anybody who wants more
information about this please go to the
website right and study what we do there
because we are the one that is truly
independent from any funding agency any
money that you could possibly give me
like like Bill Gates please don't give
me money thank you and all El go please
don't give me money or don't give me any
money if you tell me what to do you know
even some of your money I might not want
it but the point is that I want to be
independent just like you in the media I
want to be Fearless I just set my own
agenda you don't tell me what to
research either I research what I want
to research so we've been researching on
many many topics so on the climate
change issue I'm fully convinced after
all these years even though we may not
know exactly what is causing climate
change we suspect it's the sun we have a
lot of evidence to show that it's
probably the sun very high percentage
you know like I would say 90% were sure
but not 100% but we know carbon dioxide
is not the gas it's not the what you
call the like your thermometer in your
room can adjust up and down that you can
set the temperature to be whatever level
you want it first of all they can never
tell us what temperature do they want it
at what is the temperature you want to
the global temperature El go has not
been able to answer that John KY has not
been able to answer that because we know
the temperature from the colders in
Siberia to the desert in Sahara I mean
these are huge at least 100 degree or
more kind of differences yes I mean who
are you to tell me which temperature is
the correct temperature where you guys
are talking like that they are talking
as if they are pseudo God they God
themselves I mean these people are so
ambitious that in some sense I think we
have to keep the ambition down a little
bit I mean these people are not
contented just like what you put out
there if you you cannot be ambitious
when you're contented but these people
are so out of their mind in some sense
that I think it's misleading and
somebody had to speak out against them I
think you are one of those who
consistently point out their hypocrisy
right and I really find that the whole
problem of this global warming is a
complete nothing which mean we should do
nothing about it just go on and live
life and adapt to it right so what I
here's of course I agree completely but
what here's what I don't understand
global temperatures have dramatically
fluctuated within yes the period that
humans left records I mean not that long
ago I mean there are cities underwater
because sea levels have risen within
recorded history mhm the signs of the
Glaciers are all around us yes so that
was all before the internal combustion
engine how do they explain that this is
this is the problem they they at
admitted a lot of them admitted they
willingly admitted you can read all you
can't deny it I mean we had glaciers
they melted forc to confess I mean these
are the confession time is the sun
actually that does a lot of this the
glacial like like the spirit called
little ice age from about 1300 to 1900
you know very cold and then there's a
medable warm period from 880 to about
1200 you know it was warm I mean you can
grow wine in England right and now you
cannot grow wine right things like that
I mean Greenland was green back then but
now it's full of glaciers ice is coming
in so what are you talking about exactly
and it was the sun actually the sun fit
quite well as far as we know in terms of
deduct deducing the information of how
does the Sun how how bright was it how
dim was it basically just like that just
the amount of light coming out from the
Sun very tiny percentage by the way very
small it's on the order of less than a
percent but it's more than enough
because there's another effect that is
very very important is basically because
the Sun the Earth is forced to go around
the Sun and then the orbit change ever
so slightly because of perturbation from
all the other planets yes you know
Jupiter Saturn and even Venus and Mars
they actually controlling what we do and
the moon of s is very important but that
other factors the orbits plus the
changes of the Sun by itself which mean
how bright how how dim it is these two
factors can explain just about
everything that we know
all the data that I have actually so
I've been start this is why I was so
fascinated in in studying this issue I
spent my whole life actually studying
this nothing but doing just this and the
more I understand the more I think that
wow it's just a gap to be fill in we
have too much information that and then
these people come along say that CO2 is
causing everything I check I check oh
maybe they're right I check as a
scientist I have to check them but then
it's not even close I mean these people
are talking about things think that is I
mean you there's a famous phrase by a
very famous uh Wisconsin meteorologist
his name is Professor red Bryson he's
one of the father of climatology really
he just say that you go out and then you
could might as well if you think CO2 is
so you might as well spit into the end
and see what happened to the airflow he
was just basically saying that CO2 is
nothing cannot cause the climate to
change or or anything it doesn't change
anything actually it's the sun why why
you think the most important things that
you should talk about they never talk
about that they always want to average
the data the most important thing they
should talk about you know what it's a
season every no two winter are the same
no two summers are the same and they
never explain it's actually the orbits
with the sun changing it ever so
slightly I am not talking I have
published papers papers and papers and
papers like that on all this to show and
document why and how that's what the fun
part of doing science is not only know
chitchatting hand waving like crazy you
have to be even though I made it look
like one now but I always very calm when
you write down you know like my every
time I have to write a paper I always
tell my wife please don't disturb me for
a few days I'll be back things like that
of course working at home but this is
I'll be
back so is there any way to predict what
climate change will be based on actually
you can because of the orbit the only
thing we don't know is how to predict
the sun changes by itself because the
magnetism you know just the magnetic
field on the sun is too complicated the
sun is the magnetized B right it's a gas
hot gas it's about you know the the
magnetic field is so strong it's 10,000
times stronger than the earth the earth
is also a magnet a bar magnet basically
yes it's one G we have 10,000 gal at
least on the Sun so it's a very
different property and it works very
differently because it HED by basically
a thermonuclear reaction inside the Sun
so it created all kinds of hot gas
behavior that's very difficult to to try
to master or even to model it using
mathematical equation actually it's much
easier to study the Earth and to do the
Sun so that's part of the problem in in
scientific task the physics task the
very difficult but then we learn a lot
we learn a lot through just watching the
sun I mean Galileo gal right he pointed
his telescope he he he smart enough
first he point to the Jupiter the moon
right Jupiter then he saw the moon right
he saw four moons around it and then he
smart that he go the next day to watch
it again he watched and then he say
started to move by the famous story of
Galileo galile with talk about it
someday when he wrote that down
initially it was in Italian when he
realized he discovered something so
unique he change the language to Latin
the next day yeah you know I got it man
the good one you know so he start
writing in Latin precise language okay
but anyway uh for the sun it's really so
complicated that actually I've been
studying this actually as long as you
know me I mean I studied this for so
long we know a lot I even wrote a
popular book actually to try to explain
why that during a period of the Sunspot
so Galileo Galilea start in 169 1610 or
so so we have about now
43 years of data but there's a period
that deep inside the little ice AG 1645
to 1715 is called the M minimum because
during that period the Sunspot almost
all disappear especially in the northern
hamsphere it Disappear Completely nobody
know why and that's why the French
astronomer famous people like cini the
one that the cini spacecraft he was
observing at that time he's say man this
Galo guy must be on either drinking too
much or lying or things like that he
said there's a lot of sunspot but we
observe at this time we didn't see
nothing what's wrong but it is an actual
phenomenon right my my friend my good
friend which is the number one world
Sunsport historian he just wrote email
to me Douglas Hoy he actually was the
master of this collecting all the
Sunspot data going going back to all the
major libraries you know from Galileo
first point all the way to present Point
basically found that this phenomenon is
true because during that period the
Sunspot was not there not because nobody
was watching there was at least observed
80% of the time during the 70 years you
see it's so unique that period but now
we're beginning to try to learn what
happened there so during that period we
really think that the sun was so much
Demmer was substantially deer this is
why you have this little ice AG
phenomenon all the tames River will
froze you know we have the tames river
in England well known and then all the
ice skating thing you know the in
Holland all the all the different
culture and then these are all real
actual phenomenon and then this day they
trying to say that maybe l i AG is not
little ice AG they even try to change
that in scientific field actually so
this was very very puzzling for me why
would they try and change that oh I
don't know because they want to say that
CO2 is controlling everything they kind
of want to have CO2 as the prime driver
of everything this is part of the
problem that I find well that's not
science that's lying ah it's bad it's
bad in science this is why I in science
now I rather say this thing outright I
want I rather have question that cannot
be answered than answer that cannot be
questioned because these people just
offering you the answer and then you
should just shut up like you say don't
ask any question don't criticize don't
even bother to think just accept what we
say I mean you may have known that
actually if you want to get get there I
can talk about this because this is
rather famous because the other person
is still around he's the one who's
shouting up and down this these two last
two days to say that oh we must start
fil field GOP is so evil we must stop
all of them because we are the GOP are
the evil uh political bodies in America
that causes all this fossil fuel to be
we are using fossil fuel and all that
his name is Professor Michael man he's
at University of Pennsylvania yes he
created a paper we call it the hockey
stick you know the stick paper the
hockey shtick he basically say that the
temperature history first of all the
true temperature history looked like
this that it was very warm from 800 ad
let's say warm warm and then it cools
down about 1300 started to go down cool
and then since about 1900 Century it
started to warm back up way way before
CO2 is important okay that's another
puzzle that they never want to explain
that look like this that's the real
story Michael man came along said that
well he used ma mathematical algorithm
okay you can use fancy words but believe
me it's just mathematical algorithm that
he produced a stick for one 880 to about
1980 is all flat because it changed it
changed very tiny amount so small that
actually it doesn't mean anything Point
1.2 degre celsus so small it doesn't
mean the one that I talk about that
change is one degree at least you know
to five six times bigger than what he
say and then he just say is like this
and then it oneart because like the
blade which is the one warming because
of rising carbon dioxide but he forgot
to explain to you this this warming of
the temperature started way before even
the human part of the atmospheric carbon
dioxide could be anything meaningful
this is part of the problem it's all
been crazy from day one when I when this
thing was published in uh 1999 I was the
first few guy who raised a hand at the
back of the class and say excuse me
Professor man he used to be my friend by
the way now he will never answer me he
used to exchange email with me because
you know we more or less share the same
passion want to understand thing now he
just say that his story his story is the
only one that is correct but it's not
bear out by any data that we know that's
the problem it's all mathematical
products this is how scary the whole
world can be and United Nation the ipcc
group that I mentioned promoted his work
turning into a major hero because he has
solved one of this old puzzle problem
that climatologist over malania has been
trying to solve since the day of the
Greeks to try to understand how climate
change and this guy come along say that
it look like this only CO2 does it and
that's a
problem so I mean it just insult what
your I mean some of this is very complex
but in the way you're describing and if
he's saying the warming period began
before there was a meaningful addition
of CO2 into the atmosphere caused by
humans even I can understand that yes
that's that's the truth so I would
assume that lots of scientists who do
this for a living might be asking the
same question why don't they speak up
this is the problem the whole problem
inside this day is related to funding
how science is funded that natural that
philosophy I wish to not get too much
into it this is part of the reason why I
want to be totally independent I get out
of this whole system right but it's how
science is is about fundings even if you
don't get money directly it will
influence The Graduate students and on
and on and so forth all these other
related effects you know and many people
are afraid to speak out but I tell you
if you really put all the scientist to a
honest kind of polling if you science
but science is not about polling too all
it takes is one to be correct yes that's
the problem right Einstein used to when
he formulated the famous general
relativity or special relativity
actually that was criticized that that
basically talk talk about speed of light
is constant so time and space are
relative yes right time can be dilated
space is also slightly different because
his speed of light is constant special
reality is based on that concept then
100 of this Berlin academicians try to
wrote a pamplet say that Einstein is
wrong but never offer why what is the
details that is wrong and then Einstein
indeed answer like
this why would you need 100 you know if
I were to be wrong one would suffice I
mean that's a that's the theme of the
science science is so bad because it's
so totally upside down inside out covid
is another case you know so let's stick
to climate stuff people are afraid to
speak out I don't know why actually I
was young I have to worry about my three
kids where they eat and all that stuff
you know buet all the time just
kidding the greatest American invention
all you can eat this is truly
entrepreneur by the way anyway we have
enough food no problem that's why food I
don't think is also a problem in this
world even material resources right all
you think is have to think like Julian
Simon type you know we can gener and
everything the only problem we left is
lack of imagination narrow-mindedness
and all this anti-america sentiment put
it this way America is among the best
Hope For Humanity you know to put
forward we have the foundation document
the Constitution for God's sake that is
the most beautiful things that we could
ever imagine and why don't we use it
properly right people just trashing on
it every day right anyway I
digress anyway so yes I I think science
is a problem problem now because of
funding structure people won't speak out
I don't know why I think it's natural
for people to be afraid but you can only
be afraid for so long for me I was
frustrated because I was not afraid ever
since I was in sign because I'm in s
because I love science this is why from
my own perspective I just very sad to
see that science is being trampled by
all these other non-science forces you
know that's why when I look at covid
also I cannot stand by say nothing on
covid-19 there's so many wrong with it
that's why I want to preach advertise
with my group series that sign.com we
work with a bunch of people one of the
good guests for you potential will be
Professor Harvey Rich he say he been
interviewed by you twice yes even guys
like Bob Malone we work together produce
a paper so when the paper come out
hopefully we can have them on your show
so that they can tell more story we want
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the world to document this episode of
Dark Ages in in medical Sciences
something went terribly wrong the Mas
never really worked the vaccine never
really worked
all of this doesn't work the lockdown
doesn't work and what are we doing this
now they're trying to scare with another
new scare all over the world now
newspaper this morning I just got one
newspaper from my sister who have to
start oh they start masking up in
Malaysia now because cases start to
increase the usual story I laugh in a
serious way because I see this is
another one of those attempt again to
try to scare people so I did digress now
science is just so complicated now that
every aspect of the science that I look
at I've become very unhappy science is
no longer able to do where science lead
this is the theme of my series- sign.com
we with few only colleagues I don't have
enough funding I just hope to get as
many donation by the way donate but
don't tell us anything do anything trust
us because we are decent scientists you
can look at our publication record that
we are able to produce the most
interesting and pure work like ipcc they
have to reply to us two years ago we
public a very important paper one of my
journalist friend a colleague wrote a
paper newspaper article and then he go
and ask ipcc why you guys not cting this
paper they use the excuse to say that oh
these people published late we have a
DAT line here Red Line oh if you don't
publish before some date like 2021 okay
like January or 2021 then we won't
include your work so we publish in
August so they wouldn't include my work
but they forgot to say that they are
they claim themselves they Proclaim un
ipcc Proclaim them to be the best of the
scientific World produce the most
updated and all that but immediately
their report came out they already
outdated because they haven't included
my work which is the most comprehensive
review of how the Sun affect the climate
that's the work we did so this this year
just two months ago we published two
more paper convincingly
show that even the thermometer data that
they show you is is not what it is it's
actually not measuring climate it's
measuring Urban heat island changes
something that I think everybody can
understand if you go to the inner part
of the big city like TC is one of the
best example I have graph to show that
you go there inner city is much warmer
than outside because of concrete
retaining all the Heat or you change all
the surfaces of the you know the surface
become impervious which me there's no
breathing no water going in and out
things like that and it's what we show
is that it's not a phenomenon just on
local sense you average over this you
can see the effect all over the Northern
Hemisphere this is very powerful new
work that we we SP so concrete and
asphalt raise the temperatures more than
CO2 and that's what they're measuring
and then they tell you this is global
temperature and then we provide an
alternative we say why don't we go look
at rural station that is available and
guess what our result found completely
different story from from the picture
The Narrative that's coming out from
this data set thermometer data that show
that combine urban and rural okay we
show rural only we can tell you that you
can immediately offer a different answer
for example it's the Sun that does it
that does it we show that but we don't
know that it's the answer we just simply
show you that the ipcc and all these
so-called scientists from NASA Noah and
all of them are not doing their due
diligence they are putting you very bad
quality data product not only that they
hide it some of them is so difficult to
get the data okay we but it should never
be difficult to get data I'm sorry taka
this is how the problem in science now
is so many serious but I thought
transparency of data was science I was
hoping I always believe in that that's
why everything that we publish is there
because we got it from somewhere here's
the data use it check us if we're wrong
tell us we're wrong that is one thing
that I can always promise you I'm not
here to try to gain favor or anything if
I'm wrong and I don't know I tell you I
don't know taka a lot of this thing I
really under a lot of careful
consideration really a lot of deep
meditation thinking about this topic
what I think is very problematic I'm so
glad to have this opportunity to go this
far to to be able to talk for this long
now is that really the ipcc product is
actually substandard of course they have
a different mandate their their mandate
is political right to provide policy we
understand that but how many people
really understand that pure science
doesn't support anything they say I mean
in the beginning of this cop 28 meeting
the chairman of this guy from UAE United
Arabs Emirates the chairman I don't know
his name suan Al jab ja or something he
was saying that there's no scientific
reasoning to say that we should face out
force of he's right but then he back off
because of all
this everybody is hurt mentality
everybody doing the Mad thing everybody
science is not about that they all agree
now they all agree to face out right for
some kind of agreement you know that
every body decare that they're going to
do that that they're going to face off I
don't even know how actually why why are
you doing this and then one of the claim
is that they're going to Triple the
amount of solar and wind power that is a
sad story you know of the amount that we
spend that we can document some three
3.6 trillion dollar they spent almost $2
trillion on solar and wind power over
the last I don't know 5 10 years or so
and then what they did is that spend
more of the money two trillion on solar
and wind and solar wind can only account
for only 3% of the world power 85% from
fossil fuel as you can see Hydro power
and nuclear nuclear is another puzzle I
check with all my Nuclear expert friend
that been working for years on nuclear
power nuclear power is one of the
saddest story I believe that we actually
have almost the solution in hand not not
the not the fusion of course it's the
you know the the fast reactor all the
good generation of the of nuclear power
peaceful use of that won't even generate
nuclear weapon we can do all of that
technology the only thing barrier is red
tapes environmentally scar of radiation
all these other problem we almost have
all of that in in hand the power can
last one estimate shows that if we were
to use it at the demand of that by 2050
we can have enough power for 2,700 years
that's far more than any other the
fossil fuel can promise and then and
we're now still not doing it we not
doing America is so far behind now we
are we we just make one in Georgia one
of the nuclear PL that so overcosted
because of all the red tape that it's so
embarrassing there are numbers I mean it
costing a thousand or 2,000 time even
more than what Korea and you know even
Korea now is is a major guy who make
this nuclear power plant for for
different any country who wants to do it
right I mean Korea yeah India they are
making a much cheaper cost and the the
design French designs are the best right
French they all doing that and we're not
doing it China of course left and right
doing that but we're not doing anything
all we trying to tell you that we got to
shutter fossil fuel increase solar and
wind are you Jo joking even three times
more will be
9% I don't know can you turn on your
your your light only 9% of them you
should shut all this light off now
you're overusing it and it destroys the
the natural environment exactly wind
farms this is a kind of a very bad
incentive that they don't realize it's
about this kind of people that so out of
their mind in my view that they really
should be cautious somebody should just
ping on their head guys don't don't
don't keep saying those things you
better think twice or consult somebody
that knows something that is honest you
know you spent 31 years at Harvard would
you be able to say this out loud at
Harvard he actually back then I also
didn't care but uh most of the time I
get call into the director's office this
and that they always trying to tell oh
why are you saying that why are you
saying this I say well I'm a scientist I
should say whatever I want to say not
only that the problem in when I was at
Harvard part of the reason I quit as I
try to explain is about JB requirement
but another one is a bit of
censorship I can only do certain thing I
cannot do certain thing like I I would
never be able to write paper on covid-19
I would never be able to work work uh on
let's say environmental air pollution
issues you know like you know So-Cal nox
and socks and all this other thing or
Mercury and things like that I have a
lot I study a lot on those issue because
I personally are concerned so I dig into
the literature one thing after another
basically because I sleep very little so
I really do a lot of thing I flip every
Rock Pebbles anything you want so I
study a lot I produce a result that is
good enough that can be making a lot of
scientific but I never published them
because they simply won't allow they
wouldn't allow you yes it's about a
matter of allowing because they say it
doesn't fit the theme of the center for
astrophysics so I don't want to talk
back about the institution but it is the
finest astrophysics institution in the
world in terms of instrument building in
terms of Technology we can produce the
best you know you often look at the the
X-ray picture of the sun those are from
very fine camera that we build that with
multic coding layers because the x-ray
they they come in very slowly and then
they they're going to diffuse come out
but we make very fine way to to catch
them so they can come up so the image
are crystal clear you can see all the
structure on the sun it's made by my
Center they they are they're good
scientists except that when it come down
to a larger picture of science sh don't
say this don't say that this and that
and then all of that this is why even at
Harvard I quit taking money from NASA
NSF all these other place in 2004
because I beginning to think that
science being so unaccountable funded by
taxpayer that all these people it's so
unconscionable so I personally chose
that that is nobody to blame but myself
but I chose to take only from Foundation
who are willing to give me money right
so I wrote those kind of proposal and
then got to go through the director's
office this and that right I have a very
very happy and fruitful career everybody
can look up my publication list is very
long and not only that it's not the
number that counts it's the quality of
the paper I always want to remind people
I don't like talking how many thousands
of paper you write this and that it's
not important which paper that is really
important for certain issues that's
important that you if you are able to
show that that's good that's what I mean
all my papers are basically under a lot
of this serious serious thinking and
serious evaluation checking and
rejecting before I would care to write
about anything because you don't want to
write anything that's wrong tomorrow you
want something that can write but
science is basically garbage can now
these scientific papers I categorically
would even make this statement I would
make the statement that about 80 to 90%
of the paper published in so-call
climate science today should not be
published
but everybody have NSF Grant everybody
have all this grant you see how the
inflation goes you know just like the
other day you hear that y University you
know large part of it large most of the
student on on 2022 or something all got
great a great you know great a they
diluted the great but Harvey Rich assur
me that in medical sciences and heart
Sciences jav rich is the professor at AO
University he teach in the medical
school so he say no not true so that
that he tried to assure me he has
quality maybe not in his class but how
not in any other class right anyway so I
want to ask this is a kind of last topic
which is not related to this but we
talked about it off the air and I think
it's really interesting you were telling
me that you see God or evidence of God
in
math well can you explain what you were
saying or maybe I misread what you were
saying no no no no you did not I mean I
I have been closer and closer to God in
the sense that because it takes me a
long time I'm rather rebellious you know
I have to say damn it God you got to
prove it to me show it to me buddy just
kidding I'm sorry to anybody no off but
I really say it in that way you know you
talk to yourself in sense but in many
many moments in history of physics or
mathematics things come out you see
mathematics you know is this very pure
world that it seems to have no
connection to real world physics that's
right it's true it's complex number it's
one of them it's but it appear in
quantum mechanics right it's so
beautiful but one of the things that
sometime you see in equation is so
amazing when you formulate maybe it's
not right maybe it's this you know you
doubt yourself but one of the most
beautiful equation was the one that
derived by Paul direct is a professor at
Cambridge University but he retired in
Florida by the way he he died in Florida
talahasse uh I mean it's a refuge for
him because he doesn't like to talk he
will sit there for five days don't talk
one day all of a sudden he talk but
anyway he formulated he's a beautiful
man he you know part right he formulated
this relativistic equation of for
electrons but in one of the equation the
solution come out to be a negative signs
not only that there's a square root
involved so there strange Behavior
there's negative sign in but it has to
has the exact property like an electron
and all that stuff how come everybody
say you're crazy you're stupid this and
that right he he's not even way he
didn't no sweat buddy he just say I am
right many years later few years later
it is shown in ctech by Carl Anderson to
show there's actually such a thing
called positron you know the opposite
the brothers of electron there such a
thing and and then if you ask yourself
how is it
possible right that's something this
just out of out of nowhere where does
this thing come from and then in
mathematical Sciences there's a lot of
things like this like GE geometry
there's a even more famous thing about
in Geometry is called cabi Yao manao
that related to string
theory this thing was basically a
revisit of Einstein general relativity
equation asking itself whether is it
possible to have close curvature in
SpaceTime that you actually don't
require even gravity to be there and
they show that cabi was trying to prove
this Yao Shong Yao is one of the great
mathematician right he's at Harvard but
he retired now he go to China right he
was the one who tried to disprove this
thing but he turns out to be true that
is true that you can have close
curvature in SpaceTime that without
gravity even so that added even more
rich in this world that from mathematics
to real world we already have enough
hard time understanding Einstein this
guy added even more and his Discovery
was in the 70s and things like that you
know so there's so many example and
incident like this just have to tell you
that you have to bow down you have to
occasionally take a deep breath you know
there may be some ever presence of this
forces this forces that allow us to
illuminate our life and I tell you God
has given us this all this light that
tell us that we have to follow the light
and do the best we can rather than every
day devouring planet Earth saying that
we are the Satan we are the evil people
you know these people are constantly
trying to you know make all of us a
lesser human being I would never allow
them anyway so good luck you know for
those people like ELO and all that who
think that they're high and mighty right
and trying to always always lecture us
on on got to cut down on fossil field
because we're going to hurt the planet
Earth I say God do you ever think twice
how who are you to to think that you can
actually try to save the planet Earth
even because they always use the word
I'm trying to save the planet Earth I
don't know who gives them the right to
save the planet Earth same with this
experiment that they're trying to do by
the way the experiment to say that we
must cut down CO2 emission I told you
CO2 is good for you know for life
because I asked elol indeed when I asked
elol the question in UC Santa Barra is
what is that CO2 is gas of Life who give
you the audacity to cut down this then
aren't you are you going to be
responsible for the ecological and
Humanity they in all this crisis even we
know Rising CO2 affect even plants you
know especially food production right
maybe not exact number we know but it
does positively right we have technology
to help it better seed better all this
fertilization all this other thing but
who give them the idea to do that to cut
down because it's generally going to be
good for life because you have to push
them around because nobody should give
them the authority so far I don't think
anyone can answer that question question
for me so I tell them to please bow down
to God really answer to that question
first before you do anything else
because it's ridiculous for them to keep
to claim that they have the upper moral
and ethical High Ground to try to
prescribe everybody to live in certain
condition that they choose but they
themselves don't follow the rules they
tell us to take a bus El go always tell
he even tell people to take a bus ELO my
God I say ELO you take a bus from
Tennessee to massachusett I'll be
waiting for you down there please I mean
this guy is just out of the out of the
out of this world man I'm sorry ELO but
you can still call me can you um Willy
soon thank you but before you go last
thing for for viewers who want to know
more about what you do can you say once
again where they can yes read it please
uh I hope that uh I don't disappoint
anyone but please come to series
sign.com and I want to make one plug for
my good friend how shli as uh as I get
older and older including my own kids my
own kids three kids has been going to
the cam Constitution at New Hampshire
and we also wanted to invited uh uh taka
cson to come because VI raas Swami came
last last summer and because we are very
very small group we are tiny little
group called cam Constitution so cam
constitution. net we offer basically
family kind of a Christian kind of a
background but we don't talk about
Christ all the time but we talk about
Bibles we talk about Constitution we
talk about science so I'm the science
instructor I've been doing that for
almost six seven years now so I've been
doing every year I would give one or two
classes depends on how many whatever
they want me to do I would do and my own
kids came to those things and then you
know we play in play music we have
campfire it's a family event used to be
that focus on kids but this day I'm
sorry too many adults started to
come so we have even people like my good
friend Lord Christopher mon from England
he spoke twice so small little group but
if anybody who thinks that you know you
have the time and even come and learn
what we do here and ulate in your own
City and towns and all that you know
people from Wisconsin please come people
from California please come you know we
have it in New Hampshire every year
every summer we have this camp and it's
a very good thing so cam constitution.
net okay and I talked to your friend
Vince Allison from Maryland I also call
him before I came he's a one of the good
guy right yeah amazing Wily soon that
was the most interesting conversation
I've heard in a long time oh thank you
for your time I appreciate it thank you
thanks free speech is bigger than any
one person or any one organization
societies are defined by what they will
not permit what we're watching is the
total inversion of
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