What is Westside Gunn doing????

aDankPancake
13 May 202416:24

Summary

TLDRThe video script is a passionate critique of Westside Gunn's album 'Pray for Me,' which the speaker finds disjointed and lacking in cohesion compared to previous works. The reviewer highlights a few standout tracks but criticizes the album's length and quality control, suggesting that the artist is surrounded by 'Yes Men' and lacks the right creative direction. The critique calls for an intervention to help Westside Gunn return to his best form, with the hope that future projects will be more carefully curated.

Takeaways

  • 🎶 The speaker is a big fan of Westside Gunn and his music, except for a few projects.
  • 📅 The speaker had planned to release a video about Westside Gunn's new album but had to release it before the album due to time constraints.
  • 🚫 The album 'You Pray For Me' was not well-received by the speaker or other fans, differing from the speaker's usual positive take on Westside Gunn's work.
  • 🔄 The album lacks cohesion and pacing, which the speaker finds disappointing compared to previous works like 'Fly God,' 'Supreme Blant,' and 'Pray For Paris'.
  • 🎵 'Pray For Paris' is highlighted as a strong album due to its cohesive sound and smooth transitions between tracks.
  • 👨‍👨‍👧‍👦 The speaker feels Westside Gunn is surrounded by 'Yes Men,' which may be affecting the quality of his music.
  • 📊 The album is criticized for its length, with 21 tracks and over an hour of runtime, which the speaker finds excessive and not all enjoyable.
  • 👎 The speaker rates the album with a score of 38-46% based on the tracks they enjoyed, indicating a significant dissatisfaction.
  • 🔝 The speaker praises some tracks like 'Mama's Prime Time' and 'Kitchen Lights' as high-quality, but criticizes others for being outdated or poorly mixed.
  • 🔄 The speaker suggests that Westside Gunn should focus on his strengths, avoid certain themes and styles, and work with a trusted circle of collaborators for better results.
  • 🚫 A new song snippet 'Kenny Omega' is mentioned as an example of continued issues with hooks, choruses, and overall quality.

Q & A

  • What is the speaker's general opinion about Westside Gunn's music?

    -The speaker is a big fan of Westside Gunn, enjoying almost every project except for a couple of them.

  • Why did the speaker release the video about Westside Gunn before his new album?

    -The speaker ran out of time and had to release the video before the album 'You Pray For Me' was released.

  • How did the album 'You Pray For Me' compare to Westside Gunn's other works according to the speaker?

    -The speaker thinks 'You Pray For Me' is downright bad, lacking the cohesion and pacing found in other albums like 'Fly God,' 'Supreme Blant,' and 'Hermes 8.'

  • What is the speaker's opinion on the length and track count of 'You Pray For Me'?

    -The speaker finds the album to be too long, with 21 tracks and over an hour and 15 minutes of playtime, which contributes to its lack of cohesion.

  • How many tracks on the album did the speaker enjoy and what percentage does that represent?

    -The speaker enjoyed eight tracks and enjoyed three others, which represents a 38 to 46% score based on the number of tracks.

  • What is the speaker's critique of the album's production and quality control?

    -The speaker feels that Westside Gunn is surrounded by 'Yes Men' who do not provide proper quality control, resulting in an album that feels unmixed and unmastered.

  • Which track on the album did the speaker consider to be a contender for one of Westside Gunn's best songs ever?

    -'Mama's Prime Time' is considered by the speaker to be a contender for one of Westside Gunn's best songs ever.

  • What does the speaker suggest Westside Gunn should do to improve his music?

    -The speaker suggests that Westside Gunn should get rid of the 'Yes Men' and focus on what he's good at, possibly collaborating with people in his circle like Daring, Conductor, Sadu Gold, Nicholas Craven, Alchemist, Camouflage Monk, and others.

  • What is the speaker's view on the song 'Kenny Omega' featuring Stove God Cooks and Westside Gunn?

    -The speaker finds 'Kenny Omega' to be an okay track with a lot of issues, including an unmixed sound and a repetitive, unimpressive hook.

  • What does the speaker propose as a solution for Westside Gunn's future projects?

    -The speaker proposes that Westside Gunn should collaborate with a variety of artists who may not seem like they would work well together, and focus on creating a cohesive project.

Outlines

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🎶 Disappointment with Westside Gunn's Latest Album

The speaker expresses their dissatisfaction with Westside Gunn's recent album, 'You Pray for Me,' which they believe lacks cohesion and pacing compared to his previous works. They mention that despite being a big fan, they could not enjoy this album in its entirety due to its disjointed nature and poor quality control. The speaker also criticizes the album's length and lack of flow between tracks, contrasting it with the well-received 'Pray for Paris.'

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😓 Critique of Individual Tracks and Overall Quality

In this paragraph, the speaker delves into specific tracks on the album, highlighting a few they enjoyed and many they did not. They discuss the issues with the beats, flows, and the overall outdated sound of some songs. The critique also touches on the lack of quality control and the presence of 'Yes Men' around Westside Gunn, which they believe has negatively impacted the album's production.

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🔥 Mixed Reactions to New Music and a Call for Intervention

The speaker shares their thoughts on a new song snippet featuring Westside Gunn, 'Kenny Omega,' which they find to be underwhelming and indicative of a broader issue with Gunn's recent musical direction. They call for an intervention from fans to encourage Westside Gunn to return to his previous quality of work and avoid the pitfalls of his latest releases.

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🚫 Urgent Plea for Westside Gunn to Reclaim His Signature Style

In the final paragraph, the speaker makes an impassioned plea for Westside Gunn to abandon his current musical path and return to the elements that made him a favorite among fans. They suggest collaborating with a select group of producers and artists to create a project that reflects his strengths and avoids the missteps of 'You Pray for Me.' The speaker expresses concern for their continued support if the artist does not make these changes.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Westside Gunn

Westside Gunn is a central figure in the video script, being an artist the speaker greatly admires. The term is used to refer to the musician's body of work and his specific style. The speaker discusses Westside Gunn's albums, indicating the artist's significance to the video's theme of music critique and appreciation.

💡Cohesion

Cohesion, in the context of this video, refers to the unity and flow of an album's tracks, creating a harmonious listening experience. The speaker criticizes the lack of cohesion in Westside Gunn's album 'You Pray For Me,' contrasting it with the well-received 'Pray For Paris,' where songs flowed seamlessly into one another.

💡Pace

Pace, in this script, pertains to the rhythm and tempo of the music, as well as the progression of the album as a whole. The speaker feels that the album 'You Pray For Me' lacks a good pace, which is a critical component for an engaging musical project.

💡Quality Control

Quality control is mentioned to describe the process of ensuring that a product, in this case, an album, meets certain standards. The speaker suggests that the absence of quality control in Westside Gunn's recent work has led to a decline in the music's overall appeal.

💡Yes Men

The term 'Yes Men' is used metaphorically to describe individuals who only agree with and support Westside Gunn without offering critical feedback. The speaker implies that being surrounded by such individuals may have negatively impacted the artist's recent work.

💡Track Length

Track length refers to the duration of individual songs within an album. The speaker notes that the album 'You Pray For Me' is lengthy, with 21 tracks and a runtime over an hour and 15 minutes, which contributes to the listener's diminishing interest.

💡Flow

Flow in music, particularly in rap, is the rhythmic and lyrical delivery of words. The speaker critiques Westside Gunn's flow in several songs, stating it becomes 'exponentially worse' and lacks variation, impacting the enjoyment of the album.

💡Outdated

The term 'outdated' is used to describe certain songs that feel old-fashioned or behind the current trends in music. The speaker finds some tracks in the album to be outdated, suggesting they do not resonate with contemporary listeners.

💡Trap Music

Trap music is a subgenre of hip hop characterized by its use of 808 kick drums, fast hi-hats, and oftentimes dark, violent, or drug-related lyrics. The speaker discusses Westside Gunn's attempts at creating trap music, suggesting it may not be his strength.

💡Mixing and Mastering

Mixing and mastering are audio production processes that balance and polish a track's sound. The speaker criticizes the album for being 'unmixed' and 'unmastered,' indicating that the songs lack professional refinement.

💡Hooks and Choruses

Hooks and choruses are repetitive, catchy parts of a song designed to be memorable. The speaker points out that Westside Gunn's hooks and choruses are weak, particularly in the song 'Kenny Omega,' where the repetition of the title becomes tiresome.

Highlights

The speaker is a big fan of Westside Gunn and his music, with a few exceptions.

A previous video by the speaker detailed why Westside Gunn is one of their favorite artists.

The speaker had to release a video before Westside Gunn's new album, which was not well-received.

The album 'You Pray For Me' lacks cohesion and pacing compared to previous works.

The speaker believes the album is bad due to its lack of a cohesive sense.

The album 'Pray For Paris' is cited as having a strong cohesion and flow.

The speaker feels Westside Gunn didn't recognize what made 'Pray For Paris' great.

The album 'You Pray For Me' is criticized for having 21 tracks and being over an hour long.

The speaker enjoyed only 8 tracks and enjoyed three others, giving the album a low personal score.

The album starts with 'Fly God' and 'Mama's Prime Time', which are decent tracks.

The track '1989' is considered a tragedy and a momentum killer in the album.

The speaker feels Westside Gunn is surrounded by 'Yes Men', lacking quality control.

The track 'Kitchen Lights' is a contender for the best song Westside Gunn has ever made.

The album contains outdated tracks that sound like leftovers from other artists.

The track 'Babylon B' is praised for carrying the second half of the album.

The speaker suggests Westside Gunn should work with certain producers and artists for better results.

The speaker calls for an intervention, urging Westside Gunn to improve the quality of his music.

A new song snippet 'Kenny Omega' is criticized for its lack of polish and weak hook.

Transcripts

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some of you know that I'm a big Westside

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gun fan I love almost every project

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besides like two or three out of

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20 last year I released a video about

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Westside gun where I detailed why he's

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one of my favorite artists what he

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brings to the table and why I enjoy his

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music I was planning to drop the video

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in his new album at the time and then

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you pray for me came out but I ran out

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of time and I had to drop it before the

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album and good on me for doing so

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because that album was not

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exactly received

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well as big a fan as I am and as much as

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I wanted to enjoy this album in its

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entirety I just couldn't I've been the

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Scarecrow standing in the field before

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with some of my other Westside gun takes

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but this time I knew it wasn't going to

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be just me

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and clearly like you saw there are other

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people who are not a fan of this album

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and because it's been over 6 months I

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think I finally have a solidified

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opinion of the

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project I think this album is downright

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bad because it doesn't have any cohesive

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sense to it not that a lot of other

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Westside gun albums do it's just that

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when you look at a project like fly God

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Supreme blant tell Hermes 8 or pray for

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Paris which this is supposed to be the

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successor of this is in a different

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league in terms of lack of pacing and

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cohesion and this album being based on

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pray for Paris is crazy for me to think

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about because how did he on his own not

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realize what made pray for Paris so

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great pray for paris's biggest strength

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is its cohesion and every song flows

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into the next even after he had to

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remove one or two of them after being

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dmca or or uh copyright you get the

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something happened you get the idea

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every song here had a similar sound so

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in one transition to the next you're not

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wondering wait what the [ __ ] is going on

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last song was drumless and felt like

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we're walking through the Lou L Lou Lou

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I don't know it's French who gives a

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[ __ ] Lou the last song was drumless and

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felt like that French Museum and this

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one sounds like we're racing [ __ ] boxes

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in downtown Atlanta the other thing is

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that pray for Paris felt like because it

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was going for a certain Vibe it was

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controlled and there were people who

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knew better and there were quality

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control on Deck whereas this feels like

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Westside is just surrounded by Yes Men

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And if you take one look at his Twitter

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or Instagram really you'll know that's

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exactly right not only that it was a

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concise project or one of the other

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notable problems with this album is the

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blow this album is 21 tracks long

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clocking in over an hour and 15 minutes

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and while I won't give other artists a

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chance with that amount of time I would

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happily give that time to Westside gun

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until I realized halfway through that

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this is not the album I was hoping for

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let's take it from the top this album is

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21 tracks long I loved eight tracks and

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enjoyed three others but didn't love

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those that's anywhere from a 38 to 46%

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score based on number of tracks I

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enjoyed I want to make this distinction

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right away though because with a lot of

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other gun albums I don't love every

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track but the tracks I don't like aren't

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bad they're usually just not something I

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love to listen to the tracks I don't

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like on here they're actually bad and

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they have aot lot of problems the album

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starts out rough with fly God did

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another intro track with AA Rasheed

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whatever it's fine move on Mama's prime

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time is a contender for one of the best

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Westside gun songs ever probably the

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best opener track after the intro he

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could have chosen I just wish the Denzel

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Curry feature was on a beat like this

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and not where it ended up but we'll get

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used we'll get to it I actually enjoyed

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the third track cus I think Benny flowed

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pretty well here unlike the very similar

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sounding Red Death from Hermes 10 Conway

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showed up here I think his flow on this

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is

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unrivaled uh my only complaint is where

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was this Conway the machine for over

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half of 2023 clearly he was out sick

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during won't he do it and the four other

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projects He made last year 1989 is the

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first downright tragedy of the album

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because okay Mama's prime time starts

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off with a gritty energy and then cus

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keeps the pce face and it picks up a

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little bit and it feels like the album

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is clearly ramping up and then just

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starts off with this subtle Baseline and

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the momentum is just ruined by

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1989 the song has multiple points where

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Westside gun and stove God cooks are

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competing to see who can be more

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[Music]

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offbeat all right well sing on beat my

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boy hey you pray for Paris then you pray

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for me and then you pray for this album

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to get better dog what was that and then

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the rapping in the beat or like in a 12

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round heavyweight fight over who can be

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worse I normally like when Westside gun

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do that pitch down thing but it don't

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really work if you don't rap and it

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don't really work if you tow the line of

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being on beat and not being on beat this

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stove guy verse could have probably

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worked on a different beat and if it

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wasn't a whole verse I think him singing

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that 1,000 was kind of cares mad and

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could have been entertaining but it drw

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going way too long and then he got off

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beat with that like bro this is not a

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hard beat to stay on beat with and the

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other thing personally I'm never a fan

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of down pitching vocals if your vocals

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aren't good enough at their normal pitch

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you need to not make this song that goes

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for my other favorite artist too side in

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self for jiz is back up to top tier

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quality guns verse is great I love the

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alliteration and his flow is varied

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which you'll realize is something you

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didn't know you needed until it is taken

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away further along in the album but

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we'll get to that kitchen lights is is a

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contender for the best song Westside gun

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has ever made it's at least in the top

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five or top 10 it's that good to me zero

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complaints black God 2x has a nice

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relaxed boombat beat uh Westside guns

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verse here is good and no complaints

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here either cu the immediate quality

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decline to the next track Dunhill uh

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this song just sounds like 13 years out

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of date it sounds like a Chief Keef

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leftover that even a good producer would

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throw away get a sound engineer to mix

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this [ __ ] man

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actually maybe you shouldn't because I

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think they'd be in a noose by the end of

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the album Rick Ross could not save this

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song the next song House of Glory in my

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opinion is great I think this is one of

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the rare cases where trying weird [ __ ]

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on this album actually worked I like

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stove God's delivery here and I think

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westside's verse is funny I also really

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like the fake stop before Westside Gun

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starts his verse it's just a good song

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in the Riz up beat despite being

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drumless and extremely subtle I love

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this beat immediately after this song

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ends we go right into JD wrist which is

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a contender for the worst and most

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outdated song on this album besides 1989

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and a few others stove God Cooks tries

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to save the song I think if for if we

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have to rank the versus here he

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definitely has the best uh but the

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trapaholics adbs make me want to kill

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myself it gets in the way of hearing the

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verses it cuts out the beat I don't like

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it Westside guns flow here here is the

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usual Westside gun trap flow and if you

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know what that means it means it's

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tolerable the first time and then

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becomes exponentially worse he also only

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has one trap flow uh St Knack gives a

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contender for St knack's worst verse of

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all time here he needs to stop

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Whispering if he fixes the delivery it's

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still not a good verse the next track

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disgusting is kind of just whatever

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really um guns versus the usual gun trap

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flow and gigs is more or less just kind

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of there he showed up because he was

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paid the beat is one of the few trap

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beats in this album where I think it

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doesn't really need to be mixed too much

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it's kind of just already fine the next

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track Chloe has a great beat and it's

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just ruined mostly by Westside guns

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verse uh the song after that LL bu gun

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is so

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bad I oh man this beat sounds horrendous

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and westside's flow is the same as usual

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this might be the slowest trap song I've

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ever heard Babylon B is up next

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and thank God it is this song carries

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the second half of the album without a

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doubt this beat is one of the best on

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the album too right next to kitchen

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lights for me shout out J.R Swifts for

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that uh Westside guns verse is good and

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stove God is here I suppose he talks

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about being made into an art piece by

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West which is really funny because stove

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doesn't release music and no I'm not

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talking about that kitchen walls album

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that was allegedly secretly released you

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know it doesn't count if I have to dig

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around online to find your album and

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then spend money on it after finding it

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I'm not oh yeah man the secret album

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it's in my ass you got to reach your

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hands and just

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just kha Plum is on this song is

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something no one uh is happy about this

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song is followed up by the single

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biggest disappointment on the entire

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project in my opinion Ultra Griselda

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with Denzel Curry this beat is horrible

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Westside needs to discover Miguel to

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plug as soon as possible Denzel tries

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his best and he kind of actually makes

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the first half of the track decent the

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only problem is this chorus is atrocious

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Jaylen Rose is up next with the first

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daringer beat here I think it sounds out

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of the ordinary and the 808 drums don't

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really fit Baldi tries his best and I

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think the song works this is one of

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those songs that I like it but I don't

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love it Steve and Joanie through Freddy

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Jays is the same old same old more

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unmixed Westside gun trap throw it all

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out the Revenge of Flip's leg is one of

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the best songs here and Rome Street

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saves this last little treack of the

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album with an incredible verse and the

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last track tries something new with Casi

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over a drumless beat in my opinion it

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doesn't really work but this is actually

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bearable and besides a handful of tracks

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like I the ones I enjoyed and some other

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ones this album just sounds old so yeah

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a bloated [ __ ] project if I were to

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shorten this album I would make it about

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11 Tracks keep the intro keep the title

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track I think the title track is a

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moment where trying stuff out actually

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worked enough to keep here I would

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switch out the order between the title

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track and revenge of flips leg to have

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it be the clo to have revenge of flips

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leg be the closer because in my opinion

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it makes a little more sense kind of

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like how Steve bear from awesome God 2

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was but without the unnecessary skit

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over half the runtime I know I just

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killed you all with a super dense album

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review but I promise I'm going somewhere

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with this the great tracks on this album

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are great like some of his best material

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great and this in my opinion shows that

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he needs to get rid of the Yes Men and

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stick to what he's good at for Westside

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gun it really is that simple stop

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rapping about visible violent vitriolic

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vibrant sex I don't want to hear it at

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least put it over a good beat like House

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Of Glory or dance floor love love you

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from heres 7 if you rap on this bro

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please rap on

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[Music]

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this why aren't you

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[Music]

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rapping why aren't you

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rapping this beat is so good

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[Music]

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[ __ ] even Liz loves Luger Westside

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can try and uh make trap rap but at the

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end of the day I don't think it will

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ever be his strength the best songs in

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this project are not trap oriented and

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there is definitely a reason for that he

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just needs to do a project with people

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in his circle like daringer conductor

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sadu gold Nicholas Craven Alchemist

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camouflage Monk and Etc throw on some

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features put some people who don't seem

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like they would work well together and

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just call it a day you know we look at

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pray for Paris tracks like $500 ounces

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Rock Marciano and Freddy Gibbs and

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Westside gun in the same track no one

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would be able to do that besides him the

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reason I bring all of this up is that

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despite how people took the album

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clearly it did not stop him and he's

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been working on new music and I saw a

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song a month or so ago uh posted on

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Billy eso's YouTube channel if you don't

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know Billy Esco he's the guy who sings

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the hook on Westside guns

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327 he has a few songs Westside gun but

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he dropped the snippet for the song

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Kenny Omega with stove God cooks and

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Westside gun and I think this track is

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okay my comment on the video says this

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is terrible and that was on my first

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listen but let me elaborate I'll play a

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few

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[Music]

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seconds ah

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so right away the beat sounds like red

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death from heres 10 which is a good

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track I suppose this song just has a lot

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of issues that are present on and then

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you pray for me notably sounding unmixed

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and for someone who prides himself and

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being a curator you can't be both

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unmixed unmastered and

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unpolished while trying to give off the

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luxurious grimy Vibe you have to pick

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one and I just don't know if it's what

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he should be going for stove God Cooks

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gives a decent verse here it just

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doesn't seem like anything special and

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he's kind of just riding the beat

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Westside guns weakness once again Hooks

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and

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choruses and on this one it's more

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apparent than ever he just says Kenny

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Omega with his little deep pitched voice

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effects and if this were on an album I'm

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skipping it every

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time he says it over and over again

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Kenny

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Oma Kenny Oma

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Kena K Omega Kenny Omega KY GA Kenny

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Omega Kenny Omega Kenny Omega Kenny

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Omega Kenny Omega Kenny Omega Kenny

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Omega Kenny

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Omega the issue I have with this hook

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going into Westsides verse though is

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that he starts the verse he sounds

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offbeat West verse isn't even that great

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a lot of L of the lines don't rhyme and

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then after that lackluster verse he just

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does the Kenny Omega thing again Kenny

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Kenny Kenny Omega K Omega K Omega K

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Omega K Omega K Omega K Omega K Omega K

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Omega k k k k k what a [ __ ] travesty

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of a song that is it's somehow better

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than most of the material on and then

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you pray for

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me so I'm making this video because I

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think we need an

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intervention I think we as the fans need

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to tell him to lock in and make

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something actually good the Kenny Omega

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song has the first steps of being an

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okay track but it misses the mark but

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it's so close it's like if you get a

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45 on a class where a 50 is just good

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enough it's almost there and I don't

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know what Westside gun is going to do

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next but if he keeps making stuff like

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this I don't know if I want to stick

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around to find out that's all I've got

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see you

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