What is Westside Gunn doing????
Summary
TLDRThe video script is a passionate critique of Westside Gunn's album 'Pray for Me,' which the speaker finds disjointed and lacking in cohesion compared to previous works. The reviewer highlights a few standout tracks but criticizes the album's length and quality control, suggesting that the artist is surrounded by 'Yes Men' and lacks the right creative direction. The critique calls for an intervention to help Westside Gunn return to his best form, with the hope that future projects will be more carefully curated.
Takeaways
- 🎶 The speaker is a big fan of Westside Gunn and his music, except for a few projects.
- 📅 The speaker had planned to release a video about Westside Gunn's new album but had to release it before the album due to time constraints.
- 🚫 The album 'You Pray For Me' was not well-received by the speaker or other fans, differing from the speaker's usual positive take on Westside Gunn's work.
- 🔄 The album lacks cohesion and pacing, which the speaker finds disappointing compared to previous works like 'Fly God,' 'Supreme Blant,' and 'Pray For Paris'.
- 🎵 'Pray For Paris' is highlighted as a strong album due to its cohesive sound and smooth transitions between tracks.
- 👨👨👧👦 The speaker feels Westside Gunn is surrounded by 'Yes Men,' which may be affecting the quality of his music.
- 📊 The album is criticized for its length, with 21 tracks and over an hour of runtime, which the speaker finds excessive and not all enjoyable.
- 👎 The speaker rates the album with a score of 38-46% based on the tracks they enjoyed, indicating a significant dissatisfaction.
- 🔝 The speaker praises some tracks like 'Mama's Prime Time' and 'Kitchen Lights' as high-quality, but criticizes others for being outdated or poorly mixed.
- 🔄 The speaker suggests that Westside Gunn should focus on his strengths, avoid certain themes and styles, and work with a trusted circle of collaborators for better results.
- 🚫 A new song snippet 'Kenny Omega' is mentioned as an example of continued issues with hooks, choruses, and overall quality.
Q & A
What is the speaker's general opinion about Westside Gunn's music?
-The speaker is a big fan of Westside Gunn, enjoying almost every project except for a couple of them.
Why did the speaker release the video about Westside Gunn before his new album?
-The speaker ran out of time and had to release the video before the album 'You Pray For Me' was released.
How did the album 'You Pray For Me' compare to Westside Gunn's other works according to the speaker?
-The speaker thinks 'You Pray For Me' is downright bad, lacking the cohesion and pacing found in other albums like 'Fly God,' 'Supreme Blant,' and 'Hermes 8.'
What is the speaker's opinion on the length and track count of 'You Pray For Me'?
-The speaker finds the album to be too long, with 21 tracks and over an hour and 15 minutes of playtime, which contributes to its lack of cohesion.
How many tracks on the album did the speaker enjoy and what percentage does that represent?
-The speaker enjoyed eight tracks and enjoyed three others, which represents a 38 to 46% score based on the number of tracks.
What is the speaker's critique of the album's production and quality control?
-The speaker feels that Westside Gunn is surrounded by 'Yes Men' who do not provide proper quality control, resulting in an album that feels unmixed and unmastered.
Which track on the album did the speaker consider to be a contender for one of Westside Gunn's best songs ever?
-'Mama's Prime Time' is considered by the speaker to be a contender for one of Westside Gunn's best songs ever.
What does the speaker suggest Westside Gunn should do to improve his music?
-The speaker suggests that Westside Gunn should get rid of the 'Yes Men' and focus on what he's good at, possibly collaborating with people in his circle like Daring, Conductor, Sadu Gold, Nicholas Craven, Alchemist, Camouflage Monk, and others.
What is the speaker's view on the song 'Kenny Omega' featuring Stove God Cooks and Westside Gunn?
-The speaker finds 'Kenny Omega' to be an okay track with a lot of issues, including an unmixed sound and a repetitive, unimpressive hook.
What does the speaker propose as a solution for Westside Gunn's future projects?
-The speaker proposes that Westside Gunn should collaborate with a variety of artists who may not seem like they would work well together, and focus on creating a cohesive project.
Outlines
🎶 Disappointment with Westside Gunn's Latest Album
The speaker expresses their dissatisfaction with Westside Gunn's recent album, 'You Pray for Me,' which they believe lacks cohesion and pacing compared to his previous works. They mention that despite being a big fan, they could not enjoy this album in its entirety due to its disjointed nature and poor quality control. The speaker also criticizes the album's length and lack of flow between tracks, contrasting it with the well-received 'Pray for Paris.'
😓 Critique of Individual Tracks and Overall Quality
In this paragraph, the speaker delves into specific tracks on the album, highlighting a few they enjoyed and many they did not. They discuss the issues with the beats, flows, and the overall outdated sound of some songs. The critique also touches on the lack of quality control and the presence of 'Yes Men' around Westside Gunn, which they believe has negatively impacted the album's production.
🔥 Mixed Reactions to New Music and a Call for Intervention
The speaker shares their thoughts on a new song snippet featuring Westside Gunn, 'Kenny Omega,' which they find to be underwhelming and indicative of a broader issue with Gunn's recent musical direction. They call for an intervention from fans to encourage Westside Gunn to return to his previous quality of work and avoid the pitfalls of his latest releases.
🚫 Urgent Plea for Westside Gunn to Reclaim His Signature Style
In the final paragraph, the speaker makes an impassioned plea for Westside Gunn to abandon his current musical path and return to the elements that made him a favorite among fans. They suggest collaborating with a select group of producers and artists to create a project that reflects his strengths and avoids the missteps of 'You Pray for Me.' The speaker expresses concern for their continued support if the artist does not make these changes.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Westside Gunn
💡Cohesion
💡Pace
💡Quality Control
💡Yes Men
💡Track Length
💡Flow
💡Outdated
💡Trap Music
💡Mixing and Mastering
💡Hooks and Choruses
Highlights
The speaker is a big fan of Westside Gunn and his music, with a few exceptions.
A previous video by the speaker detailed why Westside Gunn is one of their favorite artists.
The speaker had to release a video before Westside Gunn's new album, which was not well-received.
The album 'You Pray For Me' lacks cohesion and pacing compared to previous works.
The speaker believes the album is bad due to its lack of a cohesive sense.
The album 'Pray For Paris' is cited as having a strong cohesion and flow.
The speaker feels Westside Gunn didn't recognize what made 'Pray For Paris' great.
The album 'You Pray For Me' is criticized for having 21 tracks and being over an hour long.
The speaker enjoyed only 8 tracks and enjoyed three others, giving the album a low personal score.
The album starts with 'Fly God' and 'Mama's Prime Time', which are decent tracks.
The track '1989' is considered a tragedy and a momentum killer in the album.
The speaker feels Westside Gunn is surrounded by 'Yes Men', lacking quality control.
The track 'Kitchen Lights' is a contender for the best song Westside Gunn has ever made.
The album contains outdated tracks that sound like leftovers from other artists.
The track 'Babylon B' is praised for carrying the second half of the album.
The speaker suggests Westside Gunn should work with certain producers and artists for better results.
The speaker calls for an intervention, urging Westside Gunn to improve the quality of his music.
A new song snippet 'Kenny Omega' is criticized for its lack of polish and weak hook.
Transcripts
some of you know that I'm a big Westside
gun fan I love almost every project
besides like two or three out of
20 last year I released a video about
Westside gun where I detailed why he's
one of my favorite artists what he
brings to the table and why I enjoy his
music I was planning to drop the video
in his new album at the time and then
you pray for me came out but I ran out
of time and I had to drop it before the
album and good on me for doing so
because that album was not
exactly received
well as big a fan as I am and as much as
I wanted to enjoy this album in its
entirety I just couldn't I've been the
Scarecrow standing in the field before
with some of my other Westside gun takes
but this time I knew it wasn't going to
be just me
and clearly like you saw there are other
people who are not a fan of this album
and because it's been over 6 months I
think I finally have a solidified
opinion of the
project I think this album is downright
bad because it doesn't have any cohesive
sense to it not that a lot of other
Westside gun albums do it's just that
when you look at a project like fly God
Supreme blant tell Hermes 8 or pray for
Paris which this is supposed to be the
successor of this is in a different
league in terms of lack of pacing and
cohesion and this album being based on
pray for Paris is crazy for me to think
about because how did he on his own not
realize what made pray for Paris so
great pray for paris's biggest strength
is its cohesion and every song flows
into the next even after he had to
remove one or two of them after being
dmca or or uh copyright you get the
something happened you get the idea
every song here had a similar sound so
in one transition to the next you're not
wondering wait what the [ __ ] is going on
last song was drumless and felt like
we're walking through the Lou L Lou Lou
I don't know it's French who gives a
[ __ ] Lou the last song was drumless and
felt like that French Museum and this
one sounds like we're racing [ __ ] boxes
in downtown Atlanta the other thing is
that pray for Paris felt like because it
was going for a certain Vibe it was
controlled and there were people who
knew better and there were quality
control on Deck whereas this feels like
Westside is just surrounded by Yes Men
And if you take one look at his Twitter
or Instagram really you'll know that's
exactly right not only that it was a
concise project or one of the other
notable problems with this album is the
blow this album is 21 tracks long
clocking in over an hour and 15 minutes
and while I won't give other artists a
chance with that amount of time I would
happily give that time to Westside gun
until I realized halfway through that
this is not the album I was hoping for
let's take it from the top this album is
21 tracks long I loved eight tracks and
enjoyed three others but didn't love
those that's anywhere from a 38 to 46%
score based on number of tracks I
enjoyed I want to make this distinction
right away though because with a lot of
other gun albums I don't love every
track but the tracks I don't like aren't
bad they're usually just not something I
love to listen to the tracks I don't
like on here they're actually bad and
they have aot lot of problems the album
starts out rough with fly God did
another intro track with AA Rasheed
whatever it's fine move on Mama's prime
time is a contender for one of the best
Westside gun songs ever probably the
best opener track after the intro he
could have chosen I just wish the Denzel
Curry feature was on a beat like this
and not where it ended up but we'll get
used we'll get to it I actually enjoyed
the third track cus I think Benny flowed
pretty well here unlike the very similar
sounding Red Death from Hermes 10 Conway
showed up here I think his flow on this
is
unrivaled uh my only complaint is where
was this Conway the machine for over
half of 2023 clearly he was out sick
during won't he do it and the four other
projects He made last year 1989 is the
first downright tragedy of the album
because okay Mama's prime time starts
off with a gritty energy and then cus
keeps the pce face and it picks up a
little bit and it feels like the album
is clearly ramping up and then just
starts off with this subtle Baseline and
the momentum is just ruined by
1989 the song has multiple points where
Westside gun and stove God cooks are
competing to see who can be more
[Music]
offbeat all right well sing on beat my
boy hey you pray for Paris then you pray
for me and then you pray for this album
to get better dog what was that and then
the rapping in the beat or like in a 12
round heavyweight fight over who can be
worse I normally like when Westside gun
do that pitch down thing but it don't
really work if you don't rap and it
don't really work if you tow the line of
being on beat and not being on beat this
stove guy verse could have probably
worked on a different beat and if it
wasn't a whole verse I think him singing
that 1,000 was kind of cares mad and
could have been entertaining but it drw
going way too long and then he got off
beat with that like bro this is not a
hard beat to stay on beat with and the
other thing personally I'm never a fan
of down pitching vocals if your vocals
aren't good enough at their normal pitch
you need to not make this song that goes
for my other favorite artist too side in
self for jiz is back up to top tier
quality guns verse is great I love the
alliteration and his flow is varied
which you'll realize is something you
didn't know you needed until it is taken
away further along in the album but
we'll get to that kitchen lights is is a
contender for the best song Westside gun
has ever made it's at least in the top
five or top 10 it's that good to me zero
complaints black God 2x has a nice
relaxed boombat beat uh Westside guns
verse here is good and no complaints
here either cu the immediate quality
decline to the next track Dunhill uh
this song just sounds like 13 years out
of date it sounds like a Chief Keef
leftover that even a good producer would
throw away get a sound engineer to mix
this [ __ ] man
actually maybe you shouldn't because I
think they'd be in a noose by the end of
the album Rick Ross could not save this
song the next song House of Glory in my
opinion is great I think this is one of
the rare cases where trying weird [ __ ]
on this album actually worked I like
stove God's delivery here and I think
westside's verse is funny I also really
like the fake stop before Westside Gun
starts his verse it's just a good song
in the Riz up beat despite being
drumless and extremely subtle I love
this beat immediately after this song
ends we go right into JD wrist which is
a contender for the worst and most
outdated song on this album besides 1989
and a few others stove God Cooks tries
to save the song I think if for if we
have to rank the versus here he
definitely has the best uh but the
trapaholics adbs make me want to kill
myself it gets in the way of hearing the
verses it cuts out the beat I don't like
it Westside guns flow here here is the
usual Westside gun trap flow and if you
know what that means it means it's
tolerable the first time and then
becomes exponentially worse he also only
has one trap flow uh St Knack gives a
contender for St knack's worst verse of
all time here he needs to stop
Whispering if he fixes the delivery it's
still not a good verse the next track
disgusting is kind of just whatever
really um guns versus the usual gun trap
flow and gigs is more or less just kind
of there he showed up because he was
paid the beat is one of the few trap
beats in this album where I think it
doesn't really need to be mixed too much
it's kind of just already fine the next
track Chloe has a great beat and it's
just ruined mostly by Westside guns
verse uh the song after that LL bu gun
is so
bad I oh man this beat sounds horrendous
and westside's flow is the same as usual
this might be the slowest trap song I've
ever heard Babylon B is up next
and thank God it is this song carries
the second half of the album without a
doubt this beat is one of the best on
the album too right next to kitchen
lights for me shout out J.R Swifts for
that uh Westside guns verse is good and
stove God is here I suppose he talks
about being made into an art piece by
West which is really funny because stove
doesn't release music and no I'm not
talking about that kitchen walls album
that was allegedly secretly released you
know it doesn't count if I have to dig
around online to find your album and
then spend money on it after finding it
I'm not oh yeah man the secret album
it's in my ass you got to reach your
hands and just
just kha Plum is on this song is
something no one uh is happy about this
song is followed up by the single
biggest disappointment on the entire
project in my opinion Ultra Griselda
with Denzel Curry this beat is horrible
Westside needs to discover Miguel to
plug as soon as possible Denzel tries
his best and he kind of actually makes
the first half of the track decent the
only problem is this chorus is atrocious
Jaylen Rose is up next with the first
daringer beat here I think it sounds out
of the ordinary and the 808 drums don't
really fit Baldi tries his best and I
think the song works this is one of
those songs that I like it but I don't
love it Steve and Joanie through Freddy
Jays is the same old same old more
unmixed Westside gun trap throw it all
out the Revenge of Flip's leg is one of
the best songs here and Rome Street
saves this last little treack of the
album with an incredible verse and the
last track tries something new with Casi
over a drumless beat in my opinion it
doesn't really work but this is actually
bearable and besides a handful of tracks
like I the ones I enjoyed and some other
ones this album just sounds old so yeah
a bloated [ __ ] project if I were to
shorten this album I would make it about
11 Tracks keep the intro keep the title
track I think the title track is a
moment where trying stuff out actually
worked enough to keep here I would
switch out the order between the title
track and revenge of flips leg to have
it be the clo to have revenge of flips
leg be the closer because in my opinion
it makes a little more sense kind of
like how Steve bear from awesome God 2
was but without the unnecessary skit
over half the runtime I know I just
killed you all with a super dense album
review but I promise I'm going somewhere
with this the great tracks on this album
are great like some of his best material
great and this in my opinion shows that
he needs to get rid of the Yes Men and
stick to what he's good at for Westside
gun it really is that simple stop
rapping about visible violent vitriolic
vibrant sex I don't want to hear it at
least put it over a good beat like House
Of Glory or dance floor love love you
from heres 7 if you rap on this bro
please rap on
[Music]
this why aren't you
[Music]
rapping why aren't you
rapping this beat is so good
[Music]
[ __ ] even Liz loves Luger Westside
can try and uh make trap rap but at the
end of the day I don't think it will
ever be his strength the best songs in
this project are not trap oriented and
there is definitely a reason for that he
just needs to do a project with people
in his circle like daringer conductor
sadu gold Nicholas Craven Alchemist
camouflage Monk and Etc throw on some
features put some people who don't seem
like they would work well together and
just call it a day you know we look at
pray for Paris tracks like $500 ounces
Rock Marciano and Freddy Gibbs and
Westside gun in the same track no one
would be able to do that besides him the
reason I bring all of this up is that
despite how people took the album
clearly it did not stop him and he's
been working on new music and I saw a
song a month or so ago uh posted on
Billy eso's YouTube channel if you don't
know Billy Esco he's the guy who sings
the hook on Westside guns
327 he has a few songs Westside gun but
he dropped the snippet for the song
Kenny Omega with stove God cooks and
Westside gun and I think this track is
okay my comment on the video says this
is terrible and that was on my first
listen but let me elaborate I'll play a
few
[Music]
seconds ah
so right away the beat sounds like red
death from heres 10 which is a good
track I suppose this song just has a lot
of issues that are present on and then
you pray for me notably sounding unmixed
and for someone who prides himself and
being a curator you can't be both
unmixed unmastered and
unpolished while trying to give off the
luxurious grimy Vibe you have to pick
one and I just don't know if it's what
he should be going for stove God Cooks
gives a decent verse here it just
doesn't seem like anything special and
he's kind of just riding the beat
Westside guns weakness once again Hooks
and
choruses and on this one it's more
apparent than ever he just says Kenny
Omega with his little deep pitched voice
effects and if this were on an album I'm
skipping it every
time he says it over and over again
Kenny
Oma Kenny Oma
Kena K Omega Kenny Omega KY GA Kenny
Omega Kenny Omega Kenny Omega Kenny
Omega Kenny Omega Kenny Omega Kenny
Omega Kenny
[Music]
Omega the issue I have with this hook
going into Westsides verse though is
that he starts the verse he sounds
offbeat West verse isn't even that great
a lot of L of the lines don't rhyme and
then after that lackluster verse he just
does the Kenny Omega thing again Kenny
Kenny Kenny Omega K Omega K Omega K
Omega K Omega K Omega K Omega K Omega K
Omega k k k k k what a [ __ ] travesty
of a song that is it's somehow better
than most of the material on and then
you pray for
me so I'm making this video because I
think we need an
intervention I think we as the fans need
to tell him to lock in and make
something actually good the Kenny Omega
song has the first steps of being an
okay track but it misses the mark but
it's so close it's like if you get a
45 on a class where a 50 is just good
enough it's almost there and I don't
know what Westside gun is going to do
next but if he keeps making stuff like
this I don't know if I want to stick
around to find out that's all I've got
see you
[Music]
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