Particulate Formation, Evolution, and Fate -Michelson Day 2 Part 3
Summary
TLDRThe script discusses various diagnostic techniques used in sampling and analyzing particles in flames, focusing on the importance of careful sampling to avoid altering particle properties. It covers methods like photo ionization mass spectrometry, transmission electron microscopy (TEM), scanning electron microscopy (SEM), atomic force microscopy (AFM), and helium ion microscopy. The lecturer also explores particle sizing techniques, including Mobility particle sizers and aerosol mass spectrometers, along with spectroscopic methods like IR, Raman, and X-ray based analyses. The summary highlights the need for collaboration between different techniques for comprehensive understanding and touches on the potential issues with traditional sampling methods that could affect the interpretation of experimental results.
Takeaways
- 🔬 The script discusses various diagnostic techniques used in sampling and analyzing particles, emphasizing the importance of understanding what you want to measure before deciding on a sampling method.
- 🌡 It highlights the significance of parameters like temperature and pressure in particle measurement, noting how these can affect the behavior of particles, especially volatile ones.
- 💡 The speaker introduces different methods such as photo ionization mass spectrometry and transmission electron microscopy (TEM) for analyzing particle properties, including their size, structure, and composition.
- 🧬 High-resolution TEM is mentioned as a crucial technique for understanding the fine structure of particles, including the disordered center and ordered shells of aggregates.
- 📊 Atomic Force Microscopy (AFM) is discussed as a method for imaging incipient particles, providing insights into their physical properties like viscosity and shape.
- 🌟 Helium ion microscopy is introduced as an alternative to electron-based techniques, offering different information due to the use of helium atoms instead of electrons for sampling.
- 🔍 The script covers Mobility type measurements, such as the Scanning Mobility Particle Sizer (SMPS), which helps in obtaining particle size distributions by extracting particles from a flame and analyzing their mobility.
- 🌪️ The Aerosol Particle Mass Analyzer (APM) and the Centrifugal Particle Mass Analyzer (CPMA) are presented as techniques that measure particle mass independent of their shape or charge.
- 🌡️ The potential issues with sampling methods are discussed, including how the act of sampling can perturb the flame and affect the chemistry and particle properties being measured.
- 🔬 The importance of combining different diagnostic techniques is emphasized to gain a more comprehensive understanding of particle behavior and properties.
Q & A
What is the primary focus of the Diagnostics discussion in the script?
-The primary focus of the Diagnostics discussion is on sampling techniques and the artifacts associated with sampling in the context of particle measurements and analysis.
Why is it challenging to measure highly volatile particles using certain techniques?
-Measuring highly volatile particles can be challenging because if a technique requires a vacuum, the particles might vaporize, making it difficult to accurately measure them.
What factors should be considered when sampling particles for measurement?
-Factors to consider when sampling particles for measurement include the properties of the particles, the desired parameters to measure, environmental conditions like temperature and pressure, and the potential need for techniques that do not perturb the sample or the surrounding environment.
What is photo ionization mass spectrometry and how is it used in the context of particle sampling?
-Photo ionization mass spectrometry is a technique used to analyze particles by ionizing them with a laser and then analyzing the resulting ions using mass spectrometry. In the script, it is used to sample particles from a flame using a quartz probe, creating a beam of particles that are then ionized and analyzed.
How does transmission electron microscopy (TEM) contribute to understanding particle structure?
-Transmission electron microscopy (TEM) allows researchers to send an electron beam through a sample, providing high-resolution images of the particle structure. This technique can reveal the morphology of particles and even allow for 3D imaging through tomography.
What is the significance of using a quartz probe for sampling in flames?
-A quartz probe is used for sampling in flames because it can withstand high temperatures without melting and is less reactive than metals. This allows for the extraction of particles without significant alteration of their properties.
How does atomic force microscopy (AFM) differ from TEM and SEM in analyzing particles?
-Atomic force microscopy (AFM) differs from TEM and SEM as it uses a mechanical mechanism with a physical tip that scans across the sample, detecting deflections as it encounters features on the surface. This allows for the imaging of particles and can provide information about their physical properties, such as viscosity or shape, on a nanoscale level.
What is the purpose of the skimmer in the sampling process described in the script?
-The skimmer in the sampling process serves to create a supersonic expansion of the gas carrying the particles, which cools and dilutes the sample before it enters the vacuum chamber for analysis.
What are some of the limitations of using a TEM grid for sampling very small particles in flames?
-Using a TEM grid for sampling very small particles in flames can be challenging because the real incipient particles, which are the smallest particles, are hard to sample accurately with this method. The grid may not capture these particles effectively, and larger aggregates are easier to sample.
How does the script suggest improving the understanding of particle formation and measurement?
-The script suggests improving understanding by combining different measurement techniques and collaborating with others who have different expertise or access to various instruments. This multi-technique approach can provide more comprehensive insights into particle formation and properties.
Outlines
🔬 Particle Diagnostics and Sampling Techniques
The speaker introduces the topic of particle diagnostics, focusing on the challenges and methods associated with sampling particles for analysis. They discuss the importance of understanding various particle properties and how these properties influence the choice of measurement techniques. The speaker also touches on the difficulties of sampling highly volatile particles and the need to consider factors such as temperature and pressure in the sampling process.
🌐 Sampling and Particle Measurement Methods
This paragraph delves into specific techniques for sampling and measuring particles. The speaker discusses the use of photo ionization mass spectrometry and transmission electron microscopy (TEM) for analyzing particle growth. They explain how particles are extracted from a flame using a quartz probe and how different sampling techniques can affect the measurements. The paragraph also covers the use of substrates for capturing particles and the challenges of sampling very small particles.
📐 Advanced Particle Imaging and Analysis
The speaker discusses advanced imaging techniques such as TEM tomography for obtaining 3D images of particle aggregates and high-resolution TEM for examining the fine structure of particles. They also mention atomic force microscopy (AFM) for imaging incipient particles and helium ion microscopy for differentiating particle structures. The paragraph highlights the importance of these techniques in understanding particle morphology and structure.
🚀 Mobility Measurements and Particle Sizing
This section focuses on mobility measurements for determining particle size distributions. The speaker explains the scanning mobility particle sizer (SMPS) technique, which involves extracting particles from a flame, neutralizing them, and then sizing them based on their mobility in an electric field. They also discuss the challenges of dealing with multiple charges on particles and the use of aerodynamic aerosol classifiers for particle sizing.
🌡️ Particle Sampling Issues and Considerations
The speaker addresses potential issues with particle sampling, such as perturbation of the flame and the quenching of radicals, which can affect the accuracy of measurements. They highlight the importance of minimizing these effects to maintain the integrity of the reactive environment being studied. The paragraph raises questions about the validity of long-standing sampling techniques and the need for the scientific community to consider alternative methods.
🔬 In-Situ and Online Particle Analysis Techniques
The speaker explores the possibility of performing in-situ and online particle analysis, such as infrared (IR) spectroscopy and Raman spectroscopy, without the need for sample extraction. They discuss the benefits of these techniques, including the ability to continuously refresh the sample and the potential for coupling different methods to gain more comprehensive insights into particle properties.
🌟 Spectroscopic Techniques for Particle Analysis
This paragraph covers various spectroscopic techniques used for analyzing particles, including IR spectroscopy, Raman spectroscopy, and electron spin resonance (ESR). The speaker discusses the types of information these techniques can provide, such as bonding information from NMR and elemental composition from elemental analysis. They also mention the challenges associated with analyzing data from these methods.
💡 Optical and Acoustic Spectroscopies for Particle Study
The speaker introduces optical band gap and photoacoustic spectroscopies as methods for studying particles. They explain how these techniques can provide information about the maturity of particles and their interaction with light and sound. The paragraph also touches on the use of x-ray diffraction for understanding the structure of materials and the historical significance of these techniques in particle analysis.
🔍 Sampling Techniques and Their Impact on Flame Chemistry
This paragraph discusses different sampling techniques used in flame studies and their potential impact on the chemistry of the flame. The speaker describes thermophoretic sampling, where a cold grid is inserted into the flame to collect particles, and the use of probes with nitrogen jackets to minimize perturbation. They also mention the issues with using metal tubes, which can lead to oxidation of the sample. The speaker emphasizes the need to consider the effects of sampling methods on the accuracy of flame chemistry measurements.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Diagnostics
💡Sampling
💡Photo Ionization Mass Spectrometry
💡Transmission Electron Microscopy (TEM)
💡Scanning Electron Microscopy (SEM)
💡Particle Size Distribution
💡Aerosol Particle Mass Analyzer (APM)
💡Laser Induced Incandescence (LII)
💡X-ray Diffraction
💡Sampling Perturbation
Highlights
Introduction to the importance of sampling and how to avoid artifacts.
Explanation of how temperature and pressure affect particle measurements.
Discussion on the challenges of measuring highly volatile particles.
Description of the photo ionization mass spectrometry technique.
Importance of using quartz probes in high-temperature environments.
Introduction to transmission electron microscopy (TEM) and its applications.
Comparison between TEM and scanning electron microscopy (SEM).
Details on high-resolution TEM and its ability to provide fine structural information.
Introduction to Atomic Force Microscopy (AFM) and its ability to image incipient particles.
Explanation of scanning tunneling microscopy for electron density mapping.
Overview of helium ion microscopy and its use in structural analysis.
Discussion on scanning mobility particle sizer (SMPS) for particle size distribution.
Description of aerosol particle mass analyzer (APMA) for mass-based measurements.
Introduction to laser-induced incandescence for single particle analysis.
Explanation of x-ray absorption spectroscopy (XAS) for compositional analysis.
Details on x-ray photoelectron spectroscopy (XPS) for surface composition analysis.
Discussion on sampling techniques and their potential to perturb flame environments.
Introduction to thermophoretic sampling and its application in flame studies.
Explanation of sampling issues and the impact of probe design on measurements.
Discussion on the challenges of interpreting data from different sampling techniques.
Emphasis on the importance of combining multiple techniques for comprehensive analysis.
Summary of how different spectroscopic methods can be applied to particle analysis.
Conclusion with an invitation to collaborate and combine techniques for better results.
Transcripts
all right are you coffeed up
ready to go for Diagnostics
um okay so let's do this
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uh so let's talk about exit shoe
Diagnostics I moved it
um so this part is mostly about sampling
and all the artifacts associated with
sampling and how we might be able to get
around the artifacts
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yes we're back okay
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okay so um
yeah let's just get going
oh yeah this is
we're into Diagnostics
um and then tomorrow we'll talk about
atmospheric you'll probably finish
Diagnostics tomorrow and then talk about
atmospheric
um okay so you want to make measurements
you want to make a whole bunch of
different you want no different
properties of the particles and how you
do your measurements you know what will
depend on what you actually want to
measure right so uh there are a whole
bunch of different parameters you might
want to understand about your particles
or maybe you don't care about the the
some of these parameters and then you
can be a little bit more flexible about
what how you want to sample your
particles
um and it's not just sampling and
sampling and storing or you know or
putting like if you have a highly
volatile particle for instance it's
going to be hard to do a technique that
requires you have vacuum right because
you'll just vaporize your particles so
you so you have to think carefully about
how you're going to do these
measurements
um
then you'll want to probably do you know
if you're trying like say you're trying
to model
um so formation you're going to want to
also know and you're trying to compare
to data you're going to want to also
know all these other parameters
associated with the measurement
temperature for chemistry is hugely
important it's exponential with
temperature right so you want to know
temperature
um and you probably want to know like
you know if if you're under different
pressure conditions if your burner is
you probably want to know your burner
temperature there are all these
different parameters that we usually
need to to think about
so we'll talk a little bit about all uh
some of that as well okay so let's start
with
um some of the techniques that we've
already talked about just how they were
how these measurements were made and how
you might want to make them okay so
here's one a sampling
um we talked about this uh measurement
the photo ionization Mass spectrometry
on the the full particles that um the uh
growthier you know edel did
and remember we're this this is one of
the two modes and we're trying to figure
out you know what if those two modes
were different character or not
um so the way they sample from a flame
you see that they have a quartz probe
um so it's like a you know just like an
eyedropper almost that goes into
um their pre-mixed flame and often when
people do this type of measurement they
have the the quartz probe is sitting
above the burner you don't usually do
metal because it'll melt quartz will go
to higher temperature
and it's not highly reactive so you're
you're you're sitting there with your
quartz probe and you move the burner up
and down so you can get different
heights in the burner
um so in this case they extracted this
whole thing into a vacuum chamber and
they basically made a type of a beam
this is the beam of all the gas like all
the particles like straight into they
basically shot this into their vacuum
machine and then ionized with a laser
and then did a master
okay so the way they did their sampling
though is if you notice at the top in
that Circle that uh red circle of their
sampling
you see that
um
well so their sampling goes um right
directly from the flame they have they
use helium to carry the particles over
to their chamber and then they take the
whole thing helium and particles
directly into the chamber and how they
did that was
um through what they call a skimmer so
that all that helium pressed particle so
they do a dilution with helium they cool
with helium not the best gas to cool
with but we're doing a supersonic
expansion so they do a supersonic
expansion through this what you call is
what that cone shape
um
uh people call a skimmer for molecular
beams
um
your mechanical engineers most of you
right so you you know this technology
this makes a supersonic expansion into
their machine so that cools immediately
cools their whole sample
so they do a dilution and a cooling into
the machine and then they do the Mass
Spectrum Mass spectrometry
um
so this is um so then they do photo
ionization they don't vaporize in this
this machine
um
in this
um this is um transmission electron
microscopy so
um
so okay so I'm gonna let me instead of
talking about actually how you do
sampling right now let's talk about some
of these techniques so so that was how
you got Mass
um they they cool their beam there and
made a molecular beam a molecular beam
of their small
um of their molecules plus their small
particles
um and actually ionize the entire
particle so it didn't vaporize right
okay so here's another way of making
these
um small measurements of these small
particles
um with sampling so execute another exit
shoe technique this is um we and we saw
looked at this again uh earlier right
yesterday and earlier today you
basically take your sample
uh put it on
um a substrate so the way they um did
these measurements is they took a
substrate and they stuck it into the
flame and pulled it out and and then had
their sample on this they and it deuces
really fast you don't want to melt your
grid is usually a
um a carbon-coated gold
um often so you do this really fast like
it's a fast inject and we'll talk a
little bit about this later and then
they do transmission electron microscopy
so you send an electron beam through
your samples but your sample is is
sitting on a grid so the Electron Beam
can go through and um and collect the
electrons you also can look at the
electrons that are bounced off of the
sample so you have um this that's how
you get your scanning when you see
people say scanning electron microscopy
you'll see
um so that's that
um uh balanced like a beam and the one
that that goes through is the
transmission electron microscopy right
so you see both types the tem is
actually better for higher resolution
but if you have a big sample and you
don't and you don't need any resolution
better than a nanometer it's you a lot
of people use sem okay
okay so that's how they make that um
measurement
um
so this is
um tem of a particle oh yeah this is uh
coded
um uh particle that what collapsed us of
restructuring
um here's how people do
um so you can get aggregate size so you
can get so that a tiny particle size but
remember it's hard to sample the T the
real incipient particles are really the
smallest particles remember we we
weren't able to sample them it's really
hard to sample those really small
particle sizes using just a tem grid
inserted into that into the the flame
but it's really pretty easy to get these
um Aggregates okay and for Aggregates on
the size of you know 100 so nanometers
it's a really great technique just to do
regular tem put it into the machine
um this is a new technique you know this
um an interesting technique where they
do temography where they're able to like
rotate the sample and get a 3D image of
their aggregate this is really cool
because a lot of times we're trying to
understand the structure the morphology
of these Aggregates when they're sitting
on the grid and you just get basically
this this image like you're looking
through like at what's ever fallen onto
the grid sometimes you'll be able to see
the little arms like moving a little bit
in the TM machine but it's really hard
to figure out what the three-dimensional
structure is but this is tomography you
don't see this very often I think it's
very
um computationally labor intensive to
get one of these images but but it's a
really cool technique and you can see
how that aggregate is structured versus
how it looks in in the 2D team Imaging
okay
um
and this is sem tomography so you can do
the same thing with sem as well rotate
your sample and get um some structure
okay and then you can take these tem
machines and do high resolution tem so
this is a a different machine where you
do high resolution tem where you
actually get the fine structure of the
particle people have actually think they
can see even how big these
um these like graphene like sheets are
and calculate like they and they even
calculate if it has a little bit of
curvature they can calculate how much
curvature it has so people have done
some really really beautiful work with
these high resolution tem machines where
you can get the fine structure of the
particle that's this is a technique that
we get almost everything we know about
you know the um disordered Center and
then the ordered shells on the outside
we know almost like this is the only
technique that's been able to give us
that kind of information
um
and and this is a type of information
all of this came from high resolution
tem okay
um
so and then remember we were talking
about Atomic Force microscopy right
where we could actually image the
incipient particles and figure out that
they were like seem to be squishing on
on the um our our
um our substrate
um because the if if the particles were
spherical
um then we were seeing it like like
wider than it was tall so AFM was helped
us actually see that these incipient
particles seem to be somewhat waxy or at
least some uh like
um or liquid like maybe but probably not
but um pretty viscous if they're liquid
like so kind of waxy type particles that
was all done with this AFM machine and
remember I was telling you yesterday the
way this this works is you have this tip
that goes across like it's actually a
mechanical type of a mechanism it's um
that you have this actual tip that goes
across your sim you drag across your
sample and when it hits something the
mirror on the top of the tip tilts a
little bit and your laser beam that's
reflected off that mirror
moves so you can watch the movement of
that laser beam and know when you have a
deflection of your tip it's a very
clever technique
um
and you can do so this is
um uh the
um TM the AFM we're talking about I was
just talking about where you could see
the position
um of that tip and that the that
particle smeared out
okay
um this is the high resolution version
of it remember we were like it actually
can see individual atoms
um this is really interesting work and
um this type of technique was invented
at IBM in the 90s and I think they these
people collaborated with people at IBM
in um
he was in Switzerland
um in Europe somewhere um to actually
map out the structures of these ph's so
you actually can see individual carbon
atoms it's so cool
okay
um this is and then even see radicals
you can see the extra little
um uh signal from radicals
and then scanning tunneling microscopy
is a way of looking at the electron
density as you scan across the surface
and and
um look at the electron Den as it
transmission as it goes across the
sample that's getting tunneling
microscopy because electrons are small
enough that they can tunnel through
materials right
um
and and you can see that uh gives you
electron density
um okay and then we have
um
let's see which one is this oh helium
ion microscopy where you actually
instead of do it using electrons you can
use helium atoms
um and that can give you information
um that's a little bit that's um
different from tem in that you're
actually now sending a a bigger particle
now and slamming it into your sample
right and then looking at it looking at
it reflect
so its resolution isn't quite as good as
electrons electrons are really really
useful at being able to
sample materials and um and and being
able to uh interact with electron
density now once you start to get
um to bigger particles like a helium
atom you're not so much sampling
electron density you're sampling more
like that the nucleus
right so but and you're actually you're
not at you're not so easily able to
um see the high resolution that you can
get with electron so this is
um
uh helium ion microscopy and this is
remember we use that's the technique
that we use to see these different
structures like that the particles
actually may not be spherical so and
it's the same burner remember the same
conditions where we with tem we saw the
spherical particles
okay
um we talked I know some of you actually
have been using these Mobility
type measurements this is a a scanning
Mobility particle sizer
so in this technique you extract your
particles from the flame so this allows
you to get particle size distributions
so you extract your particles from the
flame
um and then you uh uh they they
the terminology isn't something I really
like but you send those particles like
you're you extract your particles and
remember when when you do
um
uh when you when you take particles from
a flame the soot particles are actually
charged
um some of them are charged some of them
are neutral some of them are positively
charged some are negatively charged and
some are neutral okay so what you take
these particles out of the flame and
then you send them through something
called a neutralizer and what the
neutralizer does is it um gives you a a
known or an assumed uh um charge
distribution so it has a distribution of
single charges
um and you usually make this measurement
assuming that you have all like single
charged particles it doesn't charge all
of them
um it charges some subset of them so
it's hard to get quantitative but you
can actually make some assumptions about
how many particles are charged and and
see if you can um and and give it gives
you some kind of at least
reproducibility so you get this particle
size distribution and then the whole
thing acts almost like a mass
spectrometer for particles so you have
so you have a single charge on a
particle
um the particles and so it's a cylinder
so um where you have a a high voltage on
it's a
coannular two cylinders
um basically like electrodes so you have
a high voltage inner cylinder and then a
neutral outer cylinder and that puts a
field on inside the tube and the
particles drift through this field right
so now you have a charge drifting
through a field right electric field and
the charge the particles are going to be
diverted
based on what the field they're
experiencing how big they are and what
their charges right their Master charge
ratio basically
um and you actually sweep the voltage on
the inner rod and particles of a
particular size as you see the voltage
respond to that that field and go
through some of them the ones that are
in the The Sweet Spot of that field go
through this hole at the bottom and then
are extracted and you count them
usually count them with um
a condensation particle counter which is
just a laser
in order to count these particles
especially the small ones you have to
coat them with some kind of liquid and
there's usually like butanol
um you coat the particles and then you
can count them with this laser
and and as you sweep the voltage
different particles of different sizes
will go through and then you count how
many get through that's what gives you
the particle size distribution from a
skinny Mobility particle Sizer
um and this is a technique that like we
use all the time it's like been super
super helpful
um so this is an example okay so one
thing to note about a skinny Mobility
particle Sizer is that you can get
multiple charges so now
um if you you can actually use
um a part of this to select out and
particle like if you keep your voltage
in a single voltage your inner Rod is
single voltage
um you can select out one particle size
so if you want to do an experiments
where you're just looking at one
particle size
you send it through this thing and you
just collect the particles that come out
okay you
you say what size you want particles
come out but your neutralizer actually
gives you particles with one charge two
charge and three charged normally
um so when you send that distribution
back through an smps a different smps
you see one charge is the left two
charges the middle because the larger
Mass has two charges and it thinks it's
just one charge so the massive charge
ratio is the same as the first Peak same
and then then you have three charges and
that's um that's the distribution you
get after you send it back through okay
so you just have to be aware of that
when you're where you're doing this um
the uh the um and and okay so that is
that's
um dependent on the mobility diameter
right the mobility diameter actually
depends on for soot it's kind of
confusing because you um if you had a
spherical particle the mobility diameter
would be the same as that diameter with
soot you have this like aggregate right
this you know big floppy and it's like
you know not spherical so the mobility
diameter is kind of confusing because
this Mobility diameter of a big floppy
thing is going to be different from a
Mobility diameter of a spherical thing
and that and you know the the reason is
it's
um you're kind of drifting it's an
aerodynamic thing because you're
drifting through this field right with a
charge on on yourself and you go through
you know based on that
um as you're drifting through you're not
under vacuum you have a gas in there and
you're trying to make it through this
gas
um with this chart with this force on
you okay so all that like affects your
Mo how how you get measured but this um
uh aerosol particle Mass analyzer or
centrifugal particle mass and letters
are is based on charge is placed based
on mass so it doesn't matter how floppy
you are you have a mass right and this
um is kind of a cool I don't know I wish
I had brought a picture of of our our
cpma it's kind of this like uh
funky machine it looks like it should be
in an old in a little old um
cafe or something next to the Jukebox
it's like it it works and it spins and
what it is is it has two cylinders and
one of the cylinders is spinning and the
particles are kind of like whoa want to
fly out you know like with the spinning
cylinder and and you apply it um you do
the same neutralizer thing put a charge
distribution and then you apply this
field to pull the particles back so
you're fighting this centrifugal force
with this field and that's how you use a
centrifical mass analyzer and that is
dependent on Mass so it's all really
cool
um uh and and then you can compare so a
lot of people when they're looking at
um
at soot this is really common especially
for atmospheric scientists
um when they're trying to understand how
mature stood is or where it's come from
they cut they want to do this
measurement basically of how how um you
know what is fractal dementia like we
would put under a TM machine rate and
say okay the fracture mention is this it
looks like a regular aggregate from this
hasn't been processed blow up
um they'll often in the field take a a
mass measurement and a Mobility
measurement and compare them and say
okay the mass measurement says this but
the mobility measurement is not it's not
spherical right it doesn't give you know
so they have these relationships they've
done with different particles of
different
um shapes and and masses to and they
have these like correlations and stuff
and that's they they tell something
about is this a diesel particle based on
them the masked Mobility
ratio which I find fascinating
okay
um
and this is um the aerodynamic aerosol
classifier that does not actually even
depend on
um charging so this is kind of a new a
new technique that doesn't depend on
charging you don't actually have to
change you just do it aerodynamically
you send the particles in
aerodynamically and then
um you still have the rotating cylinder
um and you still have that centrifugal
force but it's everything's aerodynamic
instead of
um uh by charge by field charge and
field so this is actually a really nice
you don't have to worry about single
charges double charges triple charges
it's it's a really nice technique
um I've never used one though and I
don't so I don't know how how easy it is
to use the the thing with a cpma is it
takes like
um
so in terms of time scale if you've
never used any of these techniques like
you can make a laser-based technique and
you know whatever you have
uh 30 seconds
um and average whatever you know you're
doing 10 Hertz you can you know average
quite a bit in a few seconds
um
if you are using it a cpma it might take
five minutes to get one measurement
um so it's a it takes a long time for
you to go through
um and make one of these measurements
um I've never used one of these these
instruments
okay
if you want to extract this is a really
cool technique that um uh it's an
instrument that atmospheric scientists
have been using for uh years
um and it's kind of the Workhorse for
measuring black carbon in the atmosphere
trying to understand
um how should is emitted and distributed
in the atmosphere to try to understand
climate climate change so people carry
these instruments you know out into the
field they fly them on airplanes
um and it's it's kind of an interesting
instrument because it measures soot
using laser induced incandescence one
particle at a time but you have to
extract extract yourself from the flame
and send your sit through this
instrument so we haven't talked about
laser induced in essence that much yet
but
um if you've ever used laser induced
incandescence it's usually a post laser
um and it's usually a high-powered laser
enough to heat your soot up to a
sublimation point of 4 000 Kelvin so you
really need a nice
big laser and usually water cooled and
Flash lamp pumped yags
um this
um
how they get the particles to high
enough temperature with a tiny lace they
actually use just a small yeah Glazer
it's a CW laser so instead of being
pulsed it just is continuous so it your
particle and it's in the way they get
the particle hot is in the middle of the
laser cavity they have this stream of
particles you you take your particle one
at a time and let it go through your
laser beam
it takes about 20 microseconds
um for your laser instead of nanoseconds
where you normally do these posts things
like nanoseconds this goes through
microseconds like 20 microseconds so it
is sitting there for a long time just
absorbing all of that ir and heating up
hopefully to the sublimation temperature
though it's not always true
um and then it emits
um laser intestinecandescence and you
measure that single particle Li it's
sort of it's actually really clever you
also measure scatter from that single
particle so you can then then they have
these fancy ways of of comparing the
timing of the LI to the timing of the
scatter to tell if your particles are
coded you're vaporizing so it's they
actually will do vaporization
um measurements like they say okay if I
see scatter first and then Lai at at a
later time I know it's taking me longer
to heat up my particle so I know there's
a coating and then they've done all
these like you know characterizations of
this instrument to figure out what the
Coatings are it's a really kind of
fascinating technique
um uh yeah so so
um you can then see like the different
as a function of time you know the
different
um
parts of your distribution because you
see one particle at a time instead of a
whole distribution of particles
okay
oh yeah and then one of the drawbacks of
the instrument is the lower limit is
about half of a phentogram which is the
particle size for particles about 140
nanometers Mobility diameter so if you
work on diesel engines you know hmm
that's a little bit too low of a lower
too high of a lower limit to do a good
job with diesel particles because those
particles are smaller
okay aerosol Mass Spec that's another
one where we have to extract
here's our the instrument we use
um uh and the typical Mass Spectrum we
get for this is for particle composition
um so we extract
um and we send we'll talk about how we
extract it in a little bit send the
particles I think I described this
yesterday we send the particles through
an aerodynamic lens system which focuses
the being the particles into a beam
sucks away all the gas
um so we don't see the gas phase that
beam of particles hits a plate is
vaporized under vacuum and then we
ionize using the vuv from uh synchrotron
and then do a Mass Spectrum
uh and then we can tune the photon
energy and and get our photo ionization
efficiency
um
and then uh so this provides information
about
um species that are on the surface that
are vaporized or species that are part
of the particle that you can vaporize um
just by heating on that plate on under
uh vacuum
okay so here is a technique
um
that the uh that's uh x-ray based right
where you're extracting it's near Edge
x-ray absorption spectroscopy or x-ray
absorption spectroscopy
um there are multiple different names
that you can use
um there are different ways of doing
this technique
um and you usually take your sample to a
synchrotron and do these measurements
you can get a so basically you take your
X-ray beam
um and then you pull off an electron
right and then you can can actually
either do the technique by looking at
the electrons
um or you can do the technique by
um so what will happen you pull off an
electron
and you can either look at the
fluorescence of you know one of the
electrons will fall back down into that
hole right and you can look at that
fluorescence and when that electron that
second electron Falls at the excited
state falls back into the um hole you've
developed when you excited another
electron will fly off and you can
measure that electron or you can measure
the fluorescence so there are two
different ways of doing this technique
um and you can get compositional effects
information about the the uh
and it usually
um you'll have a peak that's related to
graphite so it's a pi to X star
transition so at that Photon energy
where you have the transition from the
ground state to the um the the 1s to Pi
uh excited state
um
you can either look at that and and try
to get understand about the how graphic
your sample is you can understand how
many
um the state over to the store it says
1s to Sigma star that's um for these
aliphatic you know side chain type
things you can get information about
oxygenated Peaks okay
um
thank you
and then XPS is also x-ray
um and you basically hit the particle of
your sample with an x-ray beam and then
look at the energy of the electron that
comes off
so that gives you also almost like very
very similar information to next house
but as very surface sensitive because
you have to count on the electrons
coming off and if they're buried your
sample if it's very deep in the sample
you're not going to see those electrons
coming off the surface
so that
what's hard about this technique and and
probably also next apps is
um doing the analysis and trying to
understand what you're seeing because if
you see there like here's an example
where
um you see this carbon binding energy so
this this technique can give you
information about so
um that 284 is where you will get it's
called the carbon K Edge it's where
you're going to get that excitation in
carbon
um
the what your carbon is bonded to
um that the energy will change depending
on what your carbon is bonded to so you
can get some information about the
bonding to carbon to whatever oxygen
another carbon whatever
um but you notice how hard it it is to
see all those little Peaks underneath
that carp that and then you're trying to
fit all these little Peaks it can be
really messy to try to analyze the data
okay
um
oh yeah so
um
this is this is really interesting the
um I haven't seen a lot from these
experiments but this is actually
fascinating where you do some of these
x-ray techniques with a beam of of like
where you you can extract from your
flame and send so I was just showing you
techniques where just now where you
would
sample by sticking a grid in the flame
I'm extracting the sample and then
carrying it over to the synchrotron and
and putting it up you know putting it in
an atmosphere well you get it over to
your vacuum at the synchrotron and
putting it in the machine and trying not
to let it contact oxygen and stuff
um this technique you actually can do
online so have a beam of of
um of uh particles that go into this
machine and then
on the fly in this beam actually do some
of these measurements of X-ray
absorption or this one is for x-ray
photore
um XPS x-ray photoelectron spectroscopy
like I was just talking to you
um on the previous slide so this is
actually really interesting that you can
do these measurements like on a beam of
of um of particles and and you can start
to think you know so this is an example
of where you're almost merging
um a technique that's
uh
uh really hard to actually kind of move
sort out right like move do all the
stuff to get to the machine
um
where you can almost start to exclude
the surface from your you know your
particles are just going right from the
sample into the machine
so you can start thinking about okay
how about IR spectroscopy could you have
a beam of of particles and do IR
spectroscopy on the Fly could you do the
same thing with Rama and spectroscopy
are there so then then you don't have to
worry about the sample sitting on
um a substrate or you can refresh your
sample you can actually continuously
refresh your sample and maybe change
something and then and do the
measurement while you're changing
something so these are the types of
things that we can start thinking about
right once you can do something like
this and get rid of some of the
complications maybe there are other
techniques we can do the same thing and
these would be types of things you could
do actually in your own lab rather than
going to a synchrotron
um
so this one is also on the Fly next
halfs and XPS
um where they make a beam of particles
and then do the measurement
um
as their as there you know can change
something change the height in the flame
where you're extracting okay so
um
okay so here are some kind of a
description of all the different types
of spectroscopies right you have
infrared you're absorbing right just
direct absorption
um you have you can do infrared overtone
like looking at multiple overtones of of
going from say uh uh the first
vibrational state to uh so the ground
vibrational state to the first or the
second or the third so that would be
overtone spec IR overtone spectroscopy
um
you can do a spectroscopy where
um you do get the same transition but
you do it by excite doing a ram on
transition so you excite and then relax
back to that state and look at the
difference in the photon energy
so that's another way instead of
um then then you can do this type of
spectroscopy so basically getting the
um energy of a vibrational State you can
do with actual visible light instead of
IR light so there are all these
different ways to use spectroscopy right
um so when we talk about Stokes you know
we that means that when you do the
transition you go up to an excited state
and down so you're going
um
you're going
to a higher state going to a low uh
going Andy Stokes yeah going to a higher
state and then anti-stokes is going to a
lower State okay so we're going to talk
about Stokes and anti-stokes in a little
bit when we do cars
um and then we can do different orders
of Raman so you'll see this and
different the second order of Raman
spectroscopy gives you more information
some other types of information related
to the conjugation length in in
subparticles
I know this is like a lot of just
dumping information that you
um
but this is like you'll be able to look
back and go okay oh yeah yeah
um
do you have
yeah previously
oh
um probably if I
um
let's go back to see
um oh let me see if I can do this
is it is this where
you're talking about yeah yeah yeah no
so the color actually
um I it's color-coded by temperature
which on the experiment was done so
these were individual experiments
measuring the particle size distribution
as a function of temperature of the
pyrolysis
does that make sense
yeah
oh yeah
yeah yeah yeah yeah actually
yeah yeah totally so any of these
techniques and I think that there's a
power in coupling techniques so I would
say instead of
um marrying yourself to one technique
um even if like say your lab only does
smps
um okay you're all here
um and you're meeting other people who
may have another technique and if you
collaborate putting two techniques
together can actually give you a
powerful way of finding out new
information
so I totally encourage you to talk to
each other or talk to me like you know
I've done lots of different techniques
maybe I could set you up with something
at a synchrotron if you want to do a
particular measurement you think that
would help with your your experiment
um this is exactly I I you know I I
definitely think it's it's worthwhile
thinking about combining techniques
yeah
yeah so so so keep meeting people okay
keep talking yeah thank you
okay
um
okay okay okay okay
um we're almost done with this part I
think
um
okay we talked about IR spectroscopy
right
um
and then
um RAM on spectroscopy those are two
exitu techniques that maybe you can
figure out a way to make them at least
online you know maybe in situ but that's
awfully hard because you have Luminosity
from the flame okay so that it was a
complicating Factor
um
uh so remember the GP because your
graphite Peak the DP gives you
information about and Raman Spectros
which gives you information about
defects so you can use that technique to
give you information about
um how how
um what's a fine structure of the
particle okay
um this technique is electron spin
resonance or electron paramagnetic
resonance spectroscopy gives you
information about radicals like okay so
can we find a technique that's like
sensitive radical you see yes this is it
um
but it has the big drawback is that you
have to have a huge magnet to apply a
big magnetic field and then that
magnetic field splits the energy related
to that remember that you have this in a
radical you have a lone electron it's
either spin up or spin down right so
depending on how your spin is aligned
with your magnetic field you're going to
have different energies of these um
States okay and you can do spectroscopy
um between these states and this is what
you can so there there would be two ways
of doing this you can either
scan your magnetic field strength right
or you can scan the
um the wavelength of your light your
light is going to be probably terahertz
right so your terahertz light so it's
nine gigahertz and you have a big
magnetic field so in this case I think
they keep the
um light the same and they scan the
magnetic field
um and then they get a signal for
um their radical species and as you
notice as a function of height in the
flame they get different signals for
Radicals I'm not sure how selective this
is without actually having a very fancy
epr machine I haven't seen it because no
one's done the experiment
um so it tells you that about the
radicals in the flame but you know this
the particles in the flame but I'm not
sure how much you can get from this
technique
okay
okay NMR nuclear magnetic resonance
similar to electron magnetic resonance
and now you're looking at the um the uh
carbon so this is a really really really
common technique that organic chemists
use
um again you need a big magnetic field
in this case so you're looking at the
hydrogens in your your sample
um so you can actually tell something
about the bonding of the hydrogens to
different carbon atoms but it's a very
and these are also huge machines but you
can usually have organic chemistry
friends that can help you do NMR
spectroscopy
and then we go to
Elemental analysis one of the oldest
techniques we have
um but that we need to do I think we
need to do more Elemental analysis where
we can distinguish how many carbons how
many hydrogens and maybe how many
oxygens and if you're doing something
else how you know other elements that
are involved in your particle formation
um okay so I think this might be the
last of the
oh yeah so um this is also
um an execute
um remember uh Optical band Gap gives
you information about let's see
um the majority of the particle so this
is uh where people have extracted
particles and looked at the maturity
using the optical band Gap technique
trying to sort out how big are their
species in the flea
um again that's remember that's related
to the um all the uh how how Broadband
your spectrum is the um and the uh
dispersion exponent it's very similar so
it basically gives you the transition
energy between your highest occupied
molecular orbital and the lowest
unoccupied molecular orbital
um
and then your dispersion exponent we
talked about that already and then photo
acoustic spectroscopy is kind of
interesting we I don't know anyone in
the field who uses it in combustion
science but I do know people use it in
atmospheric science to look at sip
particles in the atmosphere
um basically it's
um you send a laser in the the particle
absorbs and then it does you know it
generates a pressure wave as soon as it
absorbs you know it heats up quickly it
generates a pressure wave and you um you
put this into an acoustic cavity you put
your sample into your acoustic cavity
heat it do this
laser Heating and you look for the
acoustic wave
it has some issues like it's highly
sensitive it's it's uh you have to be
very careful about your the alignment of
your acoustic cavity but um but people
do use it in atmospheric science
um oh yeah so now let's look at we're
going to come back to this because we're
going to look at an in-situ version of
this but this is x-ray diffraction
spectroscopy very very old technique
also looking at the structure of
materials anyone who does Material
Science has probably come across this
technique
um where you basically look at the
correlations between different
um your your X-ray beam hitting
um different surfaces in a crystal or
different layers in a crystal and then
you have either
um
uh uh you have then they constructively
or destructively interfere with each
other the the the the beams the the as
if you think of the light as wavelength
um and you'll get resonances at
particular
um
um particular they're associated with
particular spacings in your Crystal so
um you look at for those resonances
and let's see here's an example
um oh yeah so and those can be
associated with the lay so for graphite
there would be layers in the graphite
right between the different layers but
it's also you can look at the spacings
and the six-membered Rings like you're
going to have repeated structures in the
six-membered Rings they're going to be
um constructively interfering to give
you a peak
um
and and and different ways have you like
they're they're so they're different
um uh resonances that are associated
with
um the different ways that the beam can
constructively interfere with different
parts of your sample
um oh yeah and here is
um Rosalind Franklin and her one of her
experiments looking at the X-ray
crystallography or x-ray diffraction of
this graphite sample
so uh
so here is a sample from a flame and you
can see the graphite Peak that's the 001
is the um
the interior spacing
um and then there's first uh soot
and this is one of the techniques that
actually was
um was very
um instrumental in telling us how far
space the graphing sheets are and soot
um so that gave us that answer and it's
it's been very consistent
yeah and then there's a 100 diffraction
Peak
which is commonly seen and I think
that's the spacing
um between the the uh
um in this in the plane the six-membered
Rings
um so it gives us information about the
maturity of the particle Okay so
um let's quickly talk about sampling
sampling issues
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um
okay so here are a whole bunch of um
these are these are Flames that we use
in our lab all of them give like
different
combustion conditions right
um so uh and here's what happens when
you put a probe in them so you can see
we actually do a lot of tech experiments
where we probe the flame
and they the probe perturbs the flame in
different ways okay and and we use
different types of probes depending on
the type of flame that we have
um and this is important not just for
for
um flames it's also important for any
reactive environment where you're trying
to probe the particles you're generating
okay so um this is one of the oldest
techniques that um people use for
extracting so from Flames
um it's uh basically it's
um where you take a grid and you
um it's it's like a rapid insertion
thermophoretic sampling where you take a
grid you insert it into a flame really
fast so this rapid insertion you have a
Pneumatic cylinder that like shoves that
grid into the flame and pulls it back
really fast or you shove it in
um wait for
a very short fraction of time to collect
something and pull it back but it
happens all that happens really fast you
wouldn't be able to do it yourself you
have to have this pneumatic cylinder
doing it
um the the grid tends to be on the order
of um like a couple or to three
millimeters when you're doing tem grid
sampling
um so your sample can be pretty big
compared to your flame
um and people have found that it's
better to have the the grid vertical
um in the flame but then you like mess
up the um the if you're interested in
what's happening as a function of height
in the flame and you have a three
millimeter grid you're going to mess up
your vertical resolution right
um so you anyway you inject this and the
the grid is cold compared to the flame
so you are preferentially having the
particles going towards your cold grid
and sticking there hopefully sticking
there right and um and then you pull it
out and then you you cool it off and you
put in your TM machine
or whatever machine you're using okay
that's thermophoretic sampling
um
uh
this is
so this is a tech okay
I think this is
oh yeah yeah sorry I I made these slides
a while ago and uh they needed them to
print out like three months ago or
something or two months ago so some of
these I'm like oh wait what did I don't
remember that
um so yeah this this is another like
where they um stuck it into the flame
but they applied a voltage to it and and
they think that this actually helps and
I would I would be interested to see
what happens if you apply a positive
voltage versus a negative voltage
because particles negatively or
positively charged or neutral
um so they collected and they they
um see more sample collected when they
actually put a voltage on their their
sampling their T their our
thermophoretic sampling system
I thought that was really interesting
um
so here's what happens so here's the you
know the kind of the downside of this
type of sampling is it can actually
perturb the flame quite a bit so it
perturbs the flow field
um here are a couple multiple papers
that have talked about how the sampling
perturbs the flow field this is
perturbing the temperature so this is a
calculation of how the probe could
perturb the temperature
um and then
um
uh this is like measurements of the
temperature as a function of where the
the probe is inserted in the flame so
you you see that you know there there
can be like a distribution of
temperatures so if you're inserting so
here's the question is and this is this
is true for all sampling you stick the
Grid in
um
if it's if you're cooling your flame a
few millimeters from your or your
sampling you're actually changing the
chemistry
where near where you're sampling and I'm
not actually I'm not sure what the
effect is but you also quench the
radicals so you're actually changing the
chemistry around your sampling so in
this case you know
um
it you know I'm concerned like we do
this we do this sampling but I'm kind of
concerned about this technique so um
uh
and here are some okay so this technique
remember is one of the first techniques
it's one of the most
um widely used technique for
understanding what looks like in a flame
this is how we've been sampling for
decades right using this thermophoretic
sampling so if it has some problems
is it affecting how we view the field
you know what we know about snow
formation so that's just a question I
just don't know the answer to it
um but it's something that we should be
thinking about as a community like are
there different ways we can do this okay
um
this is another way to sample
um you put a quartz probe or you know
into and remember
so here's a ques here's here's what we
want to do is like you want to extract
the you want to extract the particles
without perturbing your reaction your
system right you want to quen you want
to dilute them really quickly so they
don't interact with each other or with
the gas phase right and you want to cool
them really fast so that you quench all
chemistry when you sample right as you
get into that your probe so here are
some um attempts to do that so you take
a probe and in this case you you
um you have a jacket of nitrogen that
flows around the probe and then you
sample you suck into the probe and the
nitrogen goes up with the sample so it's
a club very clever way of of making a
probe the problem is the probe then gets
bigger because you have this jacket of
nitrogen around it
um there's another here's another way of
sampling through a tube with a hole in
it and you send nitrogen through so this
is like it cools and
um and dilutes in the tube as the
particles go into the tube you you
basically add vect them into your hole
in the tube and send them down
both of these probes have been shown to
um perturb like possibly perturb the
sample a little bit like particle size
distribution
um and we found that uh if we use a
metal tube
um and we we get oxygen like so if we if
we use a um a co-flow diffusion flame
and we were sucking from the flame if we
get a little bit we get to the closer to
the tip and we suck in some of the
oxygen from the co-flow
everything's hot enough to catalyze
um the tube gets really hot the Tomato
tube gets hot and we catalyze reactions
on the metal tube in the probe even
though we've diluted even though we've
cooled a little bit it's still hot
enough to get oxidation of the of the
sample in the tube so we don't use this
technique anymore with a metal tube
because we're we're really we're trying
to understand the chemistry and we we
get oxidation of the the sample
um
here's another way of of probing you you
stick up you know as talking about on
the very very beginning you stick a
quartz tube into the flame
we do this all the time
um and then you suck out of the flame so
people have done these are measurements
showing the change to the temperature so
that the probe is um over there on the
right hand side
um let me see if I marked it
so the the probe is on the right hand
side and you see how it cools the whole
region around the probe in the flame
um that's really disturbing because
that's basically cooling the whole
region you're really perturbing the
chemistry on the left hand side people
have also shown that it really perturbs
the radical concentration near the probe
so that's something that we have to
worry about when we're doing this type
of probing
um so
um I think I'll stop here
um and because it's the end of our day
and you must be exhausted sitting here
for so many hours so go get some sleep
and
um I'll see you tomorrow and we'll
finish up the diagnostic section then
jump into atmospheric and have fun
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