Is the 9950X Actually Bad? (Review Vs. 7800X3D and 7950X)
Summary
TLDRIn diesem Video vergleicht der Präsentator den Ryzen 9 9950X mit dem Ryzen 9 7950X, sowohl in Spielen als auch in Produktivitätsbenchmarks. Es zeigt, dass der 9950X in Produktivitätsaufgaben bis zu 25% schneller ist und bei Single-Thread-Aufgaben eine Steigerung von 15% aufweist. Bei Spielen liefert der 9950X eine gemischte Leistung, manchmal übertrifft er den 7950X, manchmal nicht. Die Leistungsaufnahme ist ähnlich, aber der 9950X bietet bei Produktivitätsaufgaben einen signifikanten Vorteil. Der Präsentator diskutiert auch die Leistungsunterschiede zwischen den beiden CCDs des 9950X und gibt Empfehlungen, basierend auf den Benutzerbedürfnissen.
Takeaways
- 🤖 Die Ryzen 9 9950X zeigt im Vergleich zur Ryzen 9 7950X signifikante Leistungssteigerungen in Produktivitätsbenchmarks wie V-Ray, Geekbench 6 und Cinebench.
- 🔋 Die Leistungsaufnahme der Ryzen 9 9950X ist geringfügig höher als die der 7950X, was durch die zusätzlichen Kerne und höhere Leistung gerechtfertigt ist.
- 🌡️ Die integrierte Kühlung der Ryzen 9 9950X hält die Temperatur unter 80°C, was besser ist als die der 7950X, die ohne zusätzliche Kühlung schnell höhere Temperaturen erreicht.
- 🎮 In Spielen zeigt die Ryzen 9 9950X gemischte Ergebnisse, mit einigen Spielen, in denen sie die 7950X überholt, und anderen, in denen sie durch Anpassungen wie deaktivieren von CCDs oder Verwendung von Process Lasso verbessert werden kann.
- 💻 Die Ryzen 9 9950X bietet eine hervorragende Produktivität für Benutzer, die intensive Aufgaben wie Videobearbeitung oder 3D-Rendering ausführen, kann aber für Gaming-Zwecke nicht unbedingt die beste Wert-Performance-Relation bieten.
- ⚙️ Die Ryzen 9 9950X verfügt über zwei CCDs (Core Complex Dies), wobei einer die Leistung der anderen übertrifft, was bei der Leistungsabstimmung Beachtung finden sollte.
- 🛠️ Manuelle Leistungsoptimierung der Ryzen 9 9950X kann zu einer Leistungssteigerung führen, aber bei höheren Taktraten als 5.25 GHz kann die Leistungsaufnahme stark ansteigen.
- 💰 Die Ryzen 9 9950X könnte aufgrund ihrer erhöhten Leistung in Produktivitätsbereichen für bestimmte Benutzer eine sinnvolle Investition sein, bietet aber für Gaming möglicherweise nicht den bestmöglichen Wert für das Geld.
- 🔄 Die Ryzen 9 9950X zeigt in Benchmarks wie Cinebench R23 eine beeindruckende Leistung, aber bei intensiven Lasten kann die Leistungsaufnahme schnell steigen, was bei der Hardwareauswahl zu berücksichtigen ist.
- 📈 Die Ryzen 9 9950X bietet eine bessere Leistung pro Watt im Vergleich zur 7950X, was für Benutzer, die nach einer effizienten und leistungsstarken CPU suchen, interessant sein kann.
Q & A
Wie wird die Leistung des Ryzen 9 9950X im Vergleich zum Ryzen 9 7950X in Spielen bewertet?
-Die Leistung des Ryzen 9 9950X ist in Spielen gut, aber es gibt einige Spiele, in denen die Leistung beim Standard-Einstellungsprofil nicht optimal ist und durch die Verwendung von Prozess-Lasso oder das Deaktivieren eines CCDs verbessert werden kann.
Welche Produktivitätsbenchmarks wurden in dem Skript erwähnt?
-Die erwähnten Produktivitätsbenchmarks umfassen V-Ray, Geekbench 6, C Bench und ein ungenannter Benchmark, der eine enorme Leistungssteigerung zeigte.
Wie groß ist der Leistungsunterschied zwischen den beiden CCDs des Ryzen 9 9950X?
-Es gibt einen Leistungsunterschied von fast 300 MHz zwischen den beiden CCDs des Ryzen 9 9950X, wobei einer 5,72 GHz und der andere 5,45 GHz erreichen kann.
Welche Kritikpunkte wurden bezüglich des Ryzen 9 9950X geäußert?
-Einer der Kritikpunkte ist die Diskrepanz in der Geschwindigkeit zwischen den beiden CCDs, was zu einer ungleichen Leistung der acht Kerne führt.
Wie wirkt sich die Leistungssteigerung des Ryzen 9 9950X auf den Stromverbrauch aus?
-Die Leistungssteigerung führt zu einem höheren Stromverbrauch, da das Ryzen 9 9950X im Vergleich zum 7950X etwa 384 Watt vom Netz verbraucht, während das 950X etwas über 340 Watt verbraucht.
Welche Temperaturkontrolle bietet der Ryzen 9 9950X?
-Der Ryzen 9 9950X verfügt über eine integrierte Wärmekühlung, die die Temperatur unter 80° Celsius halten kann, was eine Verbesserung im Vergleich zum 7950X darstellt.
Welche Empfehlungen gibt es für die manuelle Optimierung des Ryzen 9 9950X?
-Die Empfehlung ist, alle 16 Kerne auf 5,25 GHz zu sperren, was eine schnelle und einfache Lösung bietet, um eine schnelle und reaktionsschnelle CPU-Performance zu erzielen.
Welche Spiele wurden in dem Skript für die Gaming-Leistung des Ryzen 9 9950X getestet?
-Die Spiele, die getestet wurden, um die Gaming-Leistung des Ryzen 9 9950X zu bewerten, beinhalten Gears 5, Cyberpunk 2077, Boulder's Gate 3, Far Cry 6, Harry Potter und Age of Mythology.
Wie sollte man die CPU-Auswahl basierend auf der persönlichen Arbeitsabläufe treffen?
-Die Auswahl der CPU sollte auf der Grundlage der täglichen Aufgaben und der gewünschten Leistungssteigerung getroffen werden, um die Arbeitszeit zu reduzieren und die Produktivität zu erhöhen.
Welche anderen CPUs werden in dem Skript als Alternativen zum Ryzen 9 9950X für Gaming empfohlen?
-Als Alternativen zum Ryzen 9 9950X für Gaming werden der Ryzen 7 7800X3D, der Ryzen 5 7600X und der Ryzen 7 5800X3D empfohlen, da sie eine gute Leistung zu einem günstigeren Preis bieten.
Outlines
🤖 Ryzen 9 5950X vs. 7950X: Leistungsvergleich und Kritik
Dieser Absatz präsentiert einen detaillierten Leistungsvergleich zwischen dem Ryzen 9 5950X und dem Ryzen 9 7950X, sowohl in Spielen als auch in Produktivitätsbenchmarks. Der 5950X zeigt in Produktivitätstests wie Chaos Benchmark, Vray und Geekbench 6 signifikante Leistungssteigerungen gegenüber dem 7950X. Es wird auch auf die Leistungsmerkmale eingegangen, wie die unterschiedlichen Taktraten der beiden CCDs (Core Complex Dies) des 5950X, die zu einer Diskrepanz von bis zu 300 MHz führen. Die Kritik konzentriert sich auf die binäre Methode von AMD, die zu einer ungleichen Leistung der Kerne führt, was bei einem High-End-CPU wie dem 5950X unerwartet erscheint.
🎮 Spieleleistung und Energieverbrauch des Ryzen 9 5950X
In diesem Absatz werden die Spieleleistung und der Energieverbrauch des Ryzen 9 5950X analysiert. Es werden spezielle Ergebnisse in Spielen wie Gears 5, Cyberpunk 2077 und Far Cry 6 diskutiert, die zeigen, dass manchmal eine Anpassung der Kernaffinität oder das Deaktivieren eines CCDs notwendig ist, um die beste Leistung zu erzielen. Ebenso wird betont, dass der 5950X in Spielen eine solide Leistung bietet, aber nicht die Spitzenleistung der 7800X 3D erreicht. Der Energieverbrauch während des Gamings ist vergleichbar mit dem des 7950X, aber aufgrund der zusätzlichen Kerne etwas höher.
🔧 Empfohlene Einstellungen und Abschluss des Tests
Der letzte Absatz fasst die Empfehlungen für die Nutzung des Ryzen 9 5950X zusammen. Es wird empfohlen, alle Kerne auf 5,25 GHz zu sperren, um eine schnelle und reaktionsschnelle CPU-Performance zu erzielen. Die Herausforderungen bei der Erhöhung der Frequenz über 5,25 GHz werden diskutiert, da sie zu einem starken Anstieg des Energieverbrauchs und Instabilität führen können. Der Absatz schließt mit der Aussicht auf zukünftige Videos, in denen die praktische Erfahrung mit dem 5950X in der täglichen Nutzung und die Interaktion mit verschiedenen Programmen thematisiert werden soll.
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Keywords
💡Ryzen 9 9950 X
💡Ryzen 9 7950 X
💡Produktivitätsbenchmarks
💡Gaming-Benchmarks
💡Stromverbrauch
💡AVX2
💡CCD (Core Complex Die)
💡Undervolting
💡IPC (Instructions Per Clock)
💡Manual Tuning
Highlights
Review of Ryzen 9 9950X compared to Ryzen 9 7950X in gaming and productivity benchmarks.
Significant performance increase of nearly 25% in V-Ray benchmarks over Ryzen 9 7950X.
Geekbench 6 shows a 15% boost in single-thread performance and a 10% uplift in multi-core performance.
Cinebench results indicate impressive performance across both single and multi-core tests.
Power consumption for Ryzen 9 9950X is lower at 340W compared to 384W for Ryzen 9 7950X.
Ryzen 9 9950X maintains lower temperatures under load with a high-performance cooler.
Notable discrepancy in core performance between the two CCDs of Ryzen 9 9950X.
Maximum core speeds show a 300 MHz difference between the two CCDs, raising concerns about AMD's binning process.
Manual tuning allows for stable performance at 5.25 GHz across all cores.
Gaming benchmarks reveal mixed results, with Windows 10 outperforming Windows 11 on the Ryzen 9 950X.
Cyberpunk 2077 shows impressive performance from Ryzen 9 950X without needing to disable CCDs.
Age of Mythology benchmark highlights the strong single-thread performance of Ryzen 9 950X.
Power consumption during gaming is similar between Ryzen 9 7950X and 9950X, with the latter using slightly more due to extra cores.
Ryzen 9 950X is recommended for productivity-focused users, especially for tasks like video editing and 3D rendering.
Overall, Ryzen 9 950X offers good value for productivity tasks but may not be the best choice for pure gaming.
Transcripts
today we are going to review the ryzen 9
9950 X and we are going to compare it
against the ryzen 9 7950 X not just in
games but also in productivity
benchmarks to help you guys make the
best decision if you are looking to say
get on a ryzen 9 or maybe you should
just save some money and get on a Ryon 7
especially if you are just say more
gaming then you're doing productivity
work however that aside we will look at
the productivity benchmarks first
because I believe if you're getting a 16
core 30 2 threaded CPU you're probably
going to be using it for something
really productive and really strenuous
and here is where we're going to start
off with the chaos benchmarks starting
with vray and we saw a significant
increase in performance here over the
ryzen 979 5x and it was to the tune of
roughly nearly 25% so that's a huge
uplift in performance and then we move
over to geekbench six and here is where
we saw a nearly 15% boost in single
thread performance
but also on the multicore performance we
did see roughly uh 10% uplift there so
the uplifts already are looking pretty
good and this spans across the C bench
where we do get a significant uplift
here too both on the single core and the
multicore and then looking at the next
Benchmark here I probably shouldn't say
the name of this so early in the video
you might get censored for it but hey
we've got here a massive uplift in
performance going from 13.2 million to
15.7 million million and then the final
Benchmark that didn't show much of a
difference at all was seven zip where we
went from
235 Gibs from
230 so overall that looked like a pretty
impressive display and if we also look
at the power consumption numbers here is
where we had 384 Watts from the wall on
the 795x first is a little over 340 from
the 950x so power consumption was in
favor of the newer ryzon 9 with that
performance uplift so that was good to
see considering we're going with a high
performance cooler here today on a b650
TA light motherboard and so the 420 mil
cooler could keep this thing under 80°
at all times which was also good to see
too as opposed to the 750x out of the
box this thing just goes Skyhigh in
terms of power consumption and also
temperatures and this is something that
I have critiqued in the past with the
7950 X so for me personally I'm actually
delighted to see the tune on the 950x
out of the box is actually pretty
impressive though here's where that
impressiveness stops and it's something
that I'm going to critique about the
950x in particular because when I'm
benchmarking this CPU something that
I've noticed and also another YouTuber
called frame Chasers pointed this out
when they were checking out the 950x is
that the discrepancy between the speeds
on the two ccds so basically when it
comes to a ryzon 9 like the 7950 X or
the 9950 DX you have two ccds on board
the CPU itself and so one of them has
eight cores the other has eight cores
but the problem with the 950x here is
that you've got eight cores that are
performing really well they're going up
to what I'm seeing here is 5.72 5 GHz
maximum on all those cores and then the
other eight cores are going up to
maximum 5.45 GHz so that's nearly a 300
MHz discrepancy here on the maximum
cores and so in other words AMD is
giving you eight inferior cores and then
eight good cores and in fact the eight
inferior cores we're seeing a lower in
speed than say a ryzen 79700 x so it
makes you wonder what AMD is thinking
here when they're binning out their
Flagship ryzen 9 it is something worth
critiquing and it's something that I I
guess if you're buying a ryzen 9 and
spending that top premium dollar I would
like to see you get those 5.72 5 GHz
cores on all those CP use across those
two c ccds instead of this sort of weird
binning and now don't get me wrong this
does happen on the ryzen 9 7950 X but
it's to the tune of when I was looking
at my testing around 150 MHz so in other
words it's much less pronounced on the
previous ryzen 9 as it is on this newer
ryzen 9 which I guess if you're buying
this and then you're checking out that
performance it kind of makes you just
feel like a little bit like oh damn I
just spent all this money to get
Flagship and I'm kind of getting eight
cores that are inferior to the ryzen 797
00x however that said overall the
productivity is still really good and
also if you are into manually tuning
this CPU and extracting the most out of
just getting a raw clock which we will
go to in more depth when I start doing
my personal build and showing you guys
how I chew my system you can just get a
roll 5.25 GHz across all 16 cores that's
just locked in place all the time and
that's going to be very responsive on
this particular CPU and it's also going
to give you cin bench score that we
tested here that can go all the way up
over 45,000 points so Cent bench R23 at
least the Benchmark we're using here is
very intense on those CPU cores and so
when we're doing these benchmarks the
CPUs themselves are dropping down to 4.9
GHz in this particular Benchmark but
when it comes to gaming for instance
those CPU calls will be going up to 5.7
GHz which is what we talked about before
also if you are under undervolting ryzen
9000 just like ryzen 7000 does benefit
from from using the curve Optimizer with
a negative curve you can generally go
all the way from 10 steps to 20 steps to
30 steps in this case we saw a nice
Improvement going to 30 steps then now
it's time to look at the gaming
benchmarks and here is where we've got
some really odd results with our ryzen 9
950x now for starters I did test Windows
10 and I did compare that against
Windows 11 just quickly and Windows 10
was performing better overall on the
950x the problem was we just got some
really odd results in some of these
benchmarks the first of which is Gears 5
which was a game that we've been
benchmarking recently due to controversy
surrounding Windows 10 versus Windows 11
and here is where we got roughly
matching performance between the 7950 X
and the 950x however if we disable a CCD
completely we can then pick that FPS up
very similar to that of a 9700x and now
if you're also wondering if you can
manually tune the core Affinity on this
particular Benchmark the answer is no it
actually locks you out from tuning
anything in terms of core Affinity on
this Benchmark the only one I've seen
where you can't do anything with that
and also processed lasso cannot do this
either though moving on to cyberpunk
2077 here's where out of the box the
950x did give out a pretty impressive
display here beating that of the 79 50x
but also you didn't need to in this
particular Benchmark uh disable ccds or
use process lasso it actually gave quite
some impressive results out of the box
though moving on to Boulders Gate 3 here
is another pretty impressive result from
the 9950 x beating that of the 795x and
coming very close to that of the uh
9700x too so there's nothing you're
missing out on here in this particular
Benchmark they're going over to Far Cry
6 you are losing performance if you just
leave this on the out-of thee boox
settings and here's where the 7950 X
actually comes in with the dub but then
of course if you use something like
process lasso and this particular
Benchmark you can recoup that
performance going all the way up to as
much as 241 FPS coming very again very
close to that 9700x figure and moving on
to Harry Potter here's where we've got a
very similar score between the 795x and
the 950x and also using process lasso
didn't change much but then we're saving
the best till last and this is Age of
Mythology and here is where we saw an
anomaly where the 9950 X then beat out
the 7800x 3D not just the 7950 X but
also the 7800x 3D it's the one Benchmark
and you sometimes see this and that
makes me then understand the Benchmark
more so what this tells me is that Age
of Mythology for instance loves that
single thread IPC and here is where the
950x especially on that first CCD is
absolutely delivering and it's doing so
with great Point 1% lows too though the
final thing to talk about is the power
consumption whilst we're gaming and
here's where we saw roughly the same
between the 795x and the 950x will'll
use up a little bit more power because
we just got all those extra cores there
and and even if they're idle they are
using up a little bit more power than
say just a straight a core 16 threats so
again though if you're gaming you're
going to see that the 7800 x3d is
definitely still the way to go at least
until the 9800 x3d is released or you
may consider if you're on a budget
especially something like the 7500f
which is just going to give you
extremely good value for money or of
course you got a lot of more used
options out there that are can provide
really good bang for buck especially off
AliExpress we've checked out a lot of
these CPUs and you can definitely get
more value than a ryzen 999x pretty much
going to be one of the worst value CPUs
in the new field for just raw gaming if
that's what you're looking at doing so
with that aside we're going to sum up
this CPU and that is it's productivity
first hence why I put the productivity
numbers at the start of this video it's
16 cores 32 threads and it does deliver
in terms of some of those benchmarks
that we see there so basically in a
nutshell with this CPU if productivity
is your main focus if that's all you do
on your computer or that's the main
amount of time you're spending on a
computer for instance me I'm doing a lot
of video editing for you guys uh versus
playing games then something like the
950x is definitely going to make a lot
of sense now one thing I do have to do
with the CPU is I'm going to be using it
as my main rig over the next few months
and then coming back with the video and
update and talking about all the nuances
and things that I like and dislike about
using the latest CPU and how it
interacts with certain programs and all
that stuff I can't tell you until I've
used it for a few months so I do look
forward to giving you that video in the
future but in the meantime it does look
like this CPU is impressive and it does
feel extremely responsive especially
when we lock all the cores at 5.25 GHz
after tuning it however after that if
you want to go to say 5.35 GHz or 5.4
GHz especially in these uh benchmarks
that use avx2 and things like that then
the power consumption is just going to
run away and in fact 5.4 GHz I couldn't
get a stable for running cin bench it
just crashed out and black screened and
at that stage the power consumption was
just going Sky High so it looks like
5.25 GHz tune on all CES set and forget
is a good option if you're looking for a
quick and easy answer there and that's
also going to be very responsive too and
it just feels like the snappiest ryzen
CPU to date as well uh not just on the
9700x but also the 9950 x with that
manual tune is really providing some
great Snappy desktop experience when I'm
using it so with the 950x in a nutshell
summing this thing up look at the
benchmarks look at what you do in your
personal workflow if you can get an
extra boost in terms of performance
hence it's going to save you time then
it may be worth considering but if for
instance if you're decompressing and
compressing files all day long and
you're looking at the 79 50x then you're
going to get a not just a better value
pick but you're also going to get very
similar performance so there's really
not going to be a lot to be had out of
upgrading to a 9950 X there but say for
instance if you're rendering 3D images
all day every day then you're going to
actually benefit a lot from a 950x and
so that extra $150 so dollars that you'd
pay for the 950x over the 750x may be
extremely worthwhile for your time and
that's what it all comes down to making
the best purchase decision for what you
do in your daily life and then also
after you finish your work and you want
to play some games you're also going to
have some pretty impressive performance
there it's not going to be 7800 x3d
performance but it's still going to be
really good and for me personally I
think that's how I look at those FPS
figures they're definitely good enough
and I wouldn't certainly complain about
any of the CPUs that we had in the
charts here for gaming though also if
you have a 2 CCD CPU like a 950x A
795x or even a 7950 X 3D then stay tuned
we've got a video coming up on power
profiles balance versus high performance
and there's some very interesting
results to extract there and show you
you guys so with all that aside I hope
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below without a side I look forward to
giving you guys the next video very soon
peace out for now bye
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