"This is Hezbollah's 9/11 and it's DEVASTATING" | Redacted with Natali and Clayton Morris

Redacted
17 Sept 202413:05

Summary

TLDRThe transcript discusses a major attack involving the explosion of pagers held by Hezbollah officials, believed to be carried out by Israel’s Unit 8200 in retaliation for an earlier Hezbollah attack on Israeli forces. The operation was highly sophisticated, leading to significant casualties and raising concerns about the global security of electronic devices with lithium batteries. Edward Snowden and others expressed concern about the broader implications of this technology. The conversation also touches on the potential geopolitical fallout, including military responses and the use of advanced missiles by Hezbollah and the Houthis against Israel.

Takeaways

  • 💥 Tensions between Israel and Hezbollah are escalating, with a massive attack across Lebanon involving the explosion of pagers held by Hezbollah officials.
  • 🛠 The operation appears to be highly sophisticated, likely conducted by Israel's Unit 8200, a cyber and electronic warfare division.
  • 🚑 Thousands of people were injured, and at least 9 were killed in the attacks, with more casualties expected as reports come in.
  • 📡 The attack targeted Hezbollah's command and control infrastructure, as the affected individuals were mid to high-level officials, not front-line fighters.
  • 🔌 Israel used a technology hack to detonate lithium batteries inside pagers, raising concerns about the vulnerability of electronic devices worldwide.
  • 😨 The global implications are severe, as this method could potentially be applied to any device with a lithium battery, posing risks beyond this conflict.
  • ⚖️ Edward Snowden criticized the attack, suggesting it was reckless and comparing it to terrorism, as it indiscriminately impacted civilians.
  • 🕹 The attack highlights Israel’s ability to penetrate supply chains to plant explosives in pagers, a method it has used in the past with other devices like cell phones.
  • 🔄 Hezbollah is expected to retaliate, likely targeting Israeli military and intelligence operatives, which could further escalate the situation.
  • 💣 The conflict is likely to spread, with other actors like the Houthis also becoming involved, as evidenced by their recent missile attacks on Israel.

Q & A

  • What triggered the recent conflict between Israel and Hezbollah?

    -The recent conflict was triggered when Israel carried out an attack against a senior Hezbollah official in Beirut. Hezbollah responded by attacking Israel's Unit 8200, a top-secret signals intelligence and electronic warfare unit.

  • What was the nature of the recent attack across Lebanon?

    -The recent attack involved the detonation of pagers carried by Hezbollah officials, resulting in thousands of injuries and several deaths. This was a highly sophisticated operation believed to have been carried out by Israel's Unit 8200.

  • How was the attack on the pagers carried out?

    -The attack on the pagers was likely executed through a sophisticated hack. Instead of using traditional explosives, it is believed that the lithium batteries in the pagers were manipulated to explode.

  • Why is this attack considered a significant escalation?

    -This attack is considered a significant escalation because it demonstrates a new level of technological sophistication and indicates that Israel can target individuals globally. It also exposes the vulnerability of electronic devices with lithium batteries.

  • What concerns did this attack raise about global security?

    -The attack raised concerns about the potential for similar hacks on other electronic devices worldwide. If pagers can be remotely detonated, other devices like smartphones could also be compromised, posing a threat to global security.

  • What was Edward Snowden's reaction to the pager attacks?

    -Edward Snowden suggested that the explosions were likely caused by implanted explosives rather than a simple hack of the batteries. He expressed concern over the indiscriminate nature of the attack, labeling it as potentially indistinguishable from terrorism.

  • What potential global consequences might Israel face due to this attack?

    -Israel could face global condemnation and increased scrutiny of its actions. The attack may prompt other countries to reevaluate their supply chains for electronics and heighten security measures, particularly concerning Israeli-made devices.

  • How might Hezbollah respond to this attack?

    -Hezbollah is expected to respond in a proportional manner, which could involve targeting Israeli intelligence operatives or military personnel. This response is anticipated to escalate tensions further.

  • What role did Israel's Unit 8200 play in the conflict?

    -Israel's Unit 8200, a signals intelligence and electronic warfare unit, is believed to have carried out the attack on the pagers. The unit specializes in cyber operations, making it capable of executing sophisticated hacks such as this one.

  • What implications does this attack have for the use of electronics with lithium batteries?

    -The attack suggests that any device with a lithium battery could potentially be compromised if the technology to hack and manipulate these batteries becomes more widespread. This raises security concerns for the global use of electronics.

Outlines

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🔥 Hezbollah-Israel Conflict Intensifies with Pager Explosions

A sophisticated attack across Lebanon, involving pagers exploding in the hands of Hezbollah officials and others, has left thousands injured and at least eight dead. This attack is believed to be the work of Israel's Unit 8200, retaliating for Hezbollah’s previous attack on Israel’s top secret cyber unit. The attack has targeted senior Hezbollah officials, leading to questions about the pagers’ security. The technology involved suggests Israel could now exploit lithium batteries in devices to cause harm, raising global concerns about electronic security.

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⚠️ Global Consequences of Israel’s Attacks

Edward Snowden reacted to the global scale of the attacks, noting that pagers exploded not only in Lebanon but also in cities like London. He suggested that these attacks might involve implanted explosives rather than hacked batteries, given the severity of the injuries. This development raises questions about how Israel managed to plant explosive devices in the supply chain of these pagers. Experts believe this will force global supply chains, especially in electronics, to re-examine their security.

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💣 Hezbollah's Imminent Response and Rising Global Tensions

The attack on Hezbollah's pagers has escalated the conflict, with expectations that Hezbollah will retaliate by targeting 1,500 Israeli operatives. The global community may rally against Israel, as the scale and indiscriminate nature of the attack are viewed as acts of terrorism. With over 2,750 people injured and 9 dead in Lebanon, this escalation could have severe consequences for Israel's relations with the world.

🚀 Hypersonic Missile Fired at Tel Aviv: New Threats Emerge

Over the weekend, the Houthis fired a hypersonic missile at Tel Aviv, which Israel failed to shoot down, raising concerns about its defense systems. This missile, likely supplied by Iran, signals a new phase in the conflict. With similar technology possibly in the hands of Hezbollah, Israel could face continued hypersonic missile threats in the future. The missile strike represents a significant escalation, showcasing the increasing complexity and danger of the Middle Eastern conflict.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Hezbollah

Hezbollah is a Lebanese political and militant group, classified by many countries as a terrorist organization. In the video, Hezbollah is portrayed as being involved in a proxy war with Israel. The discussion focuses on Israel's attack on Hezbollah officials and the broader conflict in the region.

💡Unit 8200

Unit 8200 is Israel's signal intelligence and electronic warfare unit. It is central to the video’s narrative, as Israel's response to a Hezbollah attack is attributed to this unit. The unit reportedly carried out a sophisticated attack on Hezbollah operatives, using technology to detonate pagers.

💡Pagers

Pagers are a central technological tool discussed in the video. Hezbollah operatives reportedly used these pagers, which were targeted by Israel's Unit 8200. The video describes how these devices were hacked or tampered with, leading to deadly explosions.

💡Lithium battery hack

The video suggests that Israel employed a highly advanced hacking technique to cause the lithium batteries in Hezbollah officials' pagers to explode. This technological exploit raises concerns about the potential global risks of similar hacks being applied to other devices.

💡Proxy war

A proxy war refers to a conflict where two opposing countries or groups support combatants that serve their interests, instead of directly engaging. In this case, the conflict between Hezbollah and Israel is referred to as a proxy war, with both groups engaging in sophisticated technological and military attacks.

💡Hamas

Hamas is another militant organization mentioned in the video, specifically in relation to Israel’s history of assassinating its leaders by planting explosives in phones. The video draws parallels between Israel’s past actions against Hamas and its current conflict with Hezbollah.

💡Edward Snowden

Edward Snowden, a whistleblower known for exposing NSA surveillance programs, is referenced in the video. Snowden tweeted about the attacks on Hezbollah, suggesting that the explosions were caused by implanted explosives rather than a hack, raising concerns about the broader implications of such technologies.

💡Hypersonic missile

Hypersonic missiles are mentioned as part of an attack carried out by the Houthis, a group aligned with Iran, on Tel Aviv. These missiles travel at speeds greater than five times the speed of sound, and the video highlights Israel's failure to intercept the missile, raising concerns about its defense capabilities.

💡Houthi

The Houthis are a Yemeni group aligned with Iran, mentioned in the video for their involvement in launching a hypersonic missile at Tel Aviv. This event is part of a broader escalation in the Middle East, and the Houthis' use of advanced missile technology is highlighted as a significant threat.

💡Supply chain infiltration

Supply chain infiltration refers to the tampering of products during their manufacturing or distribution. In the video, Israel’s ability to hack pagers on a large scale suggests they may have infiltrated the supply chain, raising concerns about the security of electronic devices globally.

Highlights

Massive attack in Lebanon with pagers exploding in the hands of Hezbollah officials and fighters.

At least eight people killed and thousands injured in the attack.

Israel's Unit 8200 is suspected to be behind the attack, following a retaliation for a Hezbollah strike on Israel.

Hezbollah had swapped out their pagers, possibly due to concerns about compromise.

The attack appears to be more sophisticated, exploiting lithium batteries in pagers to cause explosions.

The attack has global implications, raising concerns about the security of devices with lithium batteries.

Edward Snowden commented that the attack is indistinguishable from terrorism, with devices exploding worldwide.

There is speculation that explosives were implanted in the pagers during production or along the supply chain.

Israel exposed its capabilities by conducting this large-scale attack, which may have lasting global consequences.

The attack has resulted in increased tensions and a likely Hezbollah retaliation targeting Israeli intelligence.

Hezbollah is expected to respond proportionally, possibly escalating the conflict.

2750 people were wounded as a result of the pager explosions across Lebanon.

Houthi forces fired a hypersonic missile at Tel Aviv, which Israel was unable to intercept.

The missile may signal further escalation, with Hezbollah potentially possessing similar hypersonic capabilities.

The attack has raised global concerns about Israel's tactics and their broader implications for international security.

Transcripts

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well if the Middle East isn't already

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descending into chaos today is every

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evidence that it's about to even get

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worse with a massive attack across

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Lebanon with pagers exploding in the

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hands of Hezbollah officials Fighters

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even ambassadors um and we're trying to

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piece all of this together right now how

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is this pulled off a massively

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sophisticated operation with thousands

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of people being injured at least eight

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killed uh as of right now that we know

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about how did this happen um and what is

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going on in the Middle East with Israel

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and Lebanon this is a Tinder Box we

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wanted to ask former un weapons

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inspector Scott Ritter for his

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assessment on all of this and who's been

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watching this very very closely Scott

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first just your reaction to this

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developing

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story okay well what did Hezbollah think

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was going to happen I mean we're we're

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in a situation where Hezbollah and

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Israel are in a war we could call it a

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proxy war we call it a hybrid War

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whatever you want to call it it's a

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conflict um

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Israel uh carried out an attack uh

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earlier this summer against a senior

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Hezbollah official in Beirut Hezbollah

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responded by attacking unit 8200

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Israel's top secret uh signal

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intelligence unit electronic warfare

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unit cyber unit according to news

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reports they may have killed the

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commander of this unit and killed up to

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26 others wounded over 70 others um this

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attack against the pagers of these

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Hezbollah officials is an attack carried

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out by unit 8200 that's the unit that

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does this um what did Hezbollah think

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was going to happen you attacked unit

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8200 you think 8200 is just going to sit

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there and let nothing happen um they

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have responded in a dramatic way in a

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decisive way we don't know who you know

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I think the reports are 1500 uh casually

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so far maybe the number will will

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increase um these are you know probably

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senior command and control people

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mid-level command and control people who

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carries a pager not a fighter at the

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front uh the people that carry pagers

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are people that you know need to be uh

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contacted need to respond um Logistics

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people Communications people Command

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Staff um this is devastating for for

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hezb but what did they think was going

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to happen um but that's not even the

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question we

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the audience should be asking ourselves

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how did this happen I'm not talking

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about you know the way that Israel

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pulled this off in terms of you know

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infiltrating these pagers these pagers

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apparently were just recently swapped

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out by Hezbollah um right who who who

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who was the purchasing agent I mean the

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first thing I would ask as was buy

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better pagers know your sources but they

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you know we know historically 8200 has

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used high explosive planted in cell

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phones to assassinate people in 1996 one

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of the more dramatic examples of this

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was when a Hamas bomber known as the

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engineer um you know they got a phone

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into his hands he answered the phone

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confirmed he was the guy they blew his

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head off uh Hamas in attacking on

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October 7th overran uh an Israeli

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intelligence base where they where they

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you know oversaw the technical

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penetration and the human penetration

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they got the list of the uh Hamas people

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who were Israeli operatives they were

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executed in the streets by Hamas but

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they also found out how Israel was

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listening to the communications how

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Israel had inserted cell phones into

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Hamas leadership they swapped out their

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cell phones um this may have led to H

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Hezbollah swapping out its pagers

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realizing the potential of compromise um

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you know but now the the pager type you

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know I think it was a Motorola pager

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everybody's talking about does that mean

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that Israel was able to put high

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explosive in each one of these the

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answer appears to be no uh this appears

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to have been a much more sophisticated

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attack meaning that Israel has singled

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out this kind of pager um in a way to

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exploit it uh by getting the lithium

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battery to blow up um you know some sort

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of hack uh if this is the case that

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means Israel can kill anybody anytime

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anywhere in the world not just Israel

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but the United States any nation that

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figures out this hack can now make the

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lithium battery in this device blow up

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as I'm on the phone

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um this is the kind of stuff that um

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should send shivers down everybody's

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spine because uh it's not just about

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1,500 Hezbollah operatives that were hit

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this is about every single human on the

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face of the Earth that uses uh

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electronics that have a a lithium

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battery because if you can hack a

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Motorola pager into blowing up you can

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certainly hack an Apple iPhone or

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anything that means none of us are

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safe what Edward Snowden just tweeted

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coming in just moments ago because these

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these these pagers went off in London it

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wasn't just Lebanon they were they were

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attacked all over the world Edward

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Snowden tweeted just a moments ago what

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Israel has just done is via any method

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Reckless they blew up countless numbers

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of people who were driving meaning cars

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out of control shopping with your

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children or in the stroller standing

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behind him in the checkout line Etc

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indistinguishable from terrorism um he

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says as information comes in about the

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exploding beepers in Lebanon it seems

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now more likely than not to be imp uh

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implanted explosives not a hack why too

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many consistent very serious injuries if

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it were overheated batteries explod and

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you'd expect many more small fires and

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misfires

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so and sources I've spoken to this

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morning have said that must could have

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been in in the works for a long time to

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get get these types of specific pagers

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in the hands of these individuals with

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explosives built in

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so that doesn't make me feel any better

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but what makes me feel a little bit

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better to be honest because guess guess

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to know that they can't launch a lithium

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ion battery attack at the at a whim you

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know we go back to the the old Israeli

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practice now we're seeing again that's

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how they assassinated the engineer they

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put explosives in his cell phone um

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that's how they've assassinated people

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over the ages to get a device in the

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hands uh but this shows

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something far more sophisticated this

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isn't about inserting an individual

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device where you need it this is about

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infecting the entire supply chain this

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means that in order to do this Israel uh

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was either at the source of production

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or somewhere in between because normally

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speaking um when you ship things out

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there's there's going to be some sort of

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of control how do you how do you gain

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access to all of these pagers uh in a

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way that allows you to implant explosive

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in them and then have them disseminated

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on the market

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um this is you know this is a very

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serious thing and here and the other

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thing I'll say is that um for Israel to

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to do this attack it's um it's exposing

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the capability

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um it's going to mean that everywhere

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around the world Supply chains related

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to Electronics in the Middle East or

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around the world are going to have to be

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reverse engineered um Israel probably

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won't be able to pull this off again in

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terms of this scale so this was a

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political decision by Israel to uh to

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expose this capability they um and it's

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a very crude one and if they were

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blowing up in London I mean as you said

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this is so early I don't know what the

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hell's going on but if they're blowing

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up in London um you know this is a

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terrorist attack against the United

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Kingdom um I can only pray that one blew

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up in theed United States I hope that

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whoever it happened to doesn't wasn't

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affected by this but then the United

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States has to start treating Israel as

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what it is a terrorist organization you

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know the irony here is that Israel wants

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us attack against Hezbollah that it cont

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considers to be a terrorist organization

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using the tactics of terrorism U this is

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a this is a a a flagrant crime um it's

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indiscriminate nature and we'll see if

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Israel will ever be held to account

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earlier you said what did Hezbollah

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think was going to happen after it it

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struck this uh this group uh 82 well

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what does Israel think is going to

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happen now that it has launched this

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attack and and hit thousands of

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individuals in in Hezbollah what will

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the response look

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like well the response needs to be not

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just with Hezbollah but as you said this

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was an indiscriminate attack against uh

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non- hesah targets um what did Israel

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think was going to happen in its

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response to October 7th do you think

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that the Israeli leadership sat there

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and said uh by going into Gaza the way

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we're doing we're going to trigger a

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massive International um condemnation

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that turns World opinion against us that

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uh enables the hoodie to carry out a

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blockade of our Southern ports that

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destroys our relationship with the world

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that weakens us militarily no that's not

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the Israelis don't think strategically

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like this this attack this this this

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this pager attack is going to have

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Global consequences that are going to um

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come back and haunt Israel down the road

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this was a a feel-good moment for Israel

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um but I can guarantee you within a week

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within a month um Israel won't be

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feeling good first of all hezb is going

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to respond militarily there will be an

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escalation uh that is designed to bring

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about pain and suffering on Israel the

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equivalent of that which Israel has

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delivered on Hezbollah um Israel killed

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a senior hezb leader in West Beirut hezb

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responded by attacking unit 8200 Israel

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responded by blowing up the pages of

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1,500 Hezbollah officials Hezbollah will

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spawn by hitting Israel in a um

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proportional manner proportionality

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means that

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1,500 uh Israeli um intelligence

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operatives military people are going to

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have to put at risk it it has to be a

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response of this nature meanwhile the

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world is going to Rally against Israel

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even further Israel will be further down

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into the abyss of its own construction

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by the time this is all said and done uh

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the numbers right now

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2750

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people uh wounded as a result of these

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pager explosions across

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Lebanon um and nine

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killed um

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so this number keeps going up keeps

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going up number keeps going yeah uh I'll

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get you out of here on this Scott which

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is we over the weekend we saw the houth

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houthis fire a Hypersonic

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missile at Tel Aviv they could not shoot

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this down they didn't shoot it down they

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were incapable of shooting it down the

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Jerusalem press comes out and says that

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it wasn't Hypersonic of course it BS the

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question then well then why didn't you

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shoot it down if it's not Hypersonic but

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I think all evidence to the contrary

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that it was a Hypersonic missile fired

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at Israel uh what do you make of the

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houthi side of this and the hyp Sonic

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missiles fired into Tel Aviv well the

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hoodie announced that they had acquired

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Hypersonic capability a while ago they

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had um they had done a series of

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tests static tests and uh other tests

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associated with a Hypersonic

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missile which they then declared to be

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operational um I think this is that

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missile um it was fired one Israel

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didn't shoot it down now Israel can play

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semantic games for its own domestic

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consumption but the bottom line is the

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HTI hit Israel with a missile possessing

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technical characteristics which make it

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impervious to Israel's air defense

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system um I don't believe that the

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hoodie um built one missile I think they

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have a dozens scores maybe hundreds of

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missiles waiting um this was a signal to

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Israel because its technology is not

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unique to the hoodie in fact I believe

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that the hoodie missile probably is a

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reflective of technology that the hoodi

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acquired via Iran the same kind of

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technology that was prided to Hezbollah

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um Hypersonic uh solid rocket fuel

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missiles with Precision guidance

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capabilities that um defeat the Israeli

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air defense system the hoodie sent a

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signal on behalf of Iran and Hezbollah

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that um should this conflict continue

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and should it escalate that these are

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the missiles that will be hitting Israel

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in the future and Israel has no defense

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against

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them well just when you think the news

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cycle couldn't get any crazier here we

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go Scott R thanks as always for joining

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us we appreciate your insights and

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Analysis thanks Scott thanks for having

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me

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