Ordinary 1950s Man Didn't Get The Sexual Revolution But Lived A Great Life
Summary
TLDREl guion de la cinta número tres de Melvin Baker refleja la sorpresa y el choque que sintió al presenciar la revolución sexual y los cambios sociales de su época, contrastándolos con las costumbres de su juventud. Expresa su preocupación por las consecuencias de estas libertades, como el aumento de las natalidades fuera del matrimonio y la dependencia del gobierno. Además, critica la homogeneidad profesional de los políticos y la complejidad de las leyes, y reflexiona sobre la falta de legado duradero de los años 60, centrada en su opinión en la guerra de Vietnam.
Takeaways
- 🕊️ La generación de los años 60 fue marcada por el cambio cultural y la revolución sexual, lo que sorprendió a Melvin Baker, quien creció en una época muy diferente.
- 👴 Melvin Baker, al ser de una generación anterior, se sintió impactado por las nuevas prácticas sociales y la actitud más relajada hacia el sexo entre los jóvenes.
- 😮 Él menciona que, en su tiempo, el uso de preservativos y la educación sexual no eran tan comunes como lo son hoy en día.
- 📚 La educación y las oportunidades eran más accesibles en los años 50, con préstamos GI para veteranos y una creciente esperanza en la mejora de la vida.
- 🤔 Melvin reflexiona sobre la complejidad de las leyes y la falta de diversidad en las profesiones de los políticos, cuestionando por qué la mayoría son abogados.
- 🏦 La dependencia del gobierno y el uso del sistema de seguridad social por parte de las personas mayores se mencionan como un fenómeno sorprendente y preocupante.
- 👶 La preocupación por el aumento de nacimientos fuera de matrimonio y las dificultades que enfrentan las madres solteras sin habilidades técnicas para sobrevivir.
- 🏫 En la actualidad, Melvin nota que los jóvenes tienen mejores ideales y están más enfocados en sus vidas, a diferencia de la generación de los 60.
- 🤷♂️ A pesar de las protestas y el activismo de los años 60, Melvin no ve un legado claro que haya sido dejado para las generaciones futuras.
- 🎓 La percepción de que los jóvenes de los 60 eran inteligentes pero a menudo buscaban diversión, lo que a veces los llevó a situaciones de riesgo.
- 👨👧👦 La observación de Melvin sobre cómo las relaciones familiares y el concepto de 'hogar' han cambiado, con un enfoque en la cohabitación y menos estigma asociado.
Q & A
¿Qué sorpresa sintió Melvin Baker al observar los cambios en las actitudes sexuales de la juventud actual?
-Melvin Baker se sintió sorprendido y casi shockeado al darse cuenta de las actitudes sexuales más liberales de los jóvenes, lo cual contrasta con su propia época y valores más conservadores.
¿Cómo describe Melvin Baker la actitud de su generación hacia el sexo y las relaciones?
-Según Melvin, su generación era más reservada en cuanto a las relaciones sexuales y las discusiones sobre el tema eran inusuales y a menudo se mantenían en privacidad.
¿Por qué Melvin Baker considera que la revolución sexual impactó a su generación?
-Melvin Baker cree que la revolución sexual fue un shock para su generación porque introdujo prácticas y discusiones que antes eran consideradas inaceptables o inexistentes.
¿Cómo se compara Melvin Baker con los jóvenes actuales en términos de cohabitación y relaciones?
-Melvin Baker señala que mientras que en su juventud la cohabitación era prácticamente inexistente, en la actualidad es común ver a jóvenes vivir juntos, incluso en las universidades.
¿Qué problemasMelvin Baker ve en la cohabitación y nacimiento de hijos fuera del matrimonio?
-Melvin Baker teme que el nacimiento de hijos fuera del matrimonio y la cohabitación sin compromiso puedan llevar a una mayor dependencia del gobierno y a una vida difícil para las mujeres y los niños.
¿Cuál es la opinión de Melvin Baker sobre la moralidad de las relaciones sexuales fuera del matrimonio?
-Melvin Baker considera que las relaciones sexuales fuera del matrimonio y la cohabitación son inmorales, aunque admite que no es una persona extremadamente religiosa.
¿Cómo describió Melvin Baker la situación de las personas mayores viviendo juntas para mantener sus cheques de Seguridad Social?
-Melvin Baker menciona que algunos ciudadanos mayores viven juntos no por amor, sino por razones prácticas, como mantener el flujo de ingresos de las Seguridad Social, lo que él ve como una excusa societalmente aceptada.
¿Qué recuerdos tiene Melvin Baker de la época de la posguerra y la década de 1950?
-Melvin Baker recuerda que después de la Segunda Guerra Mundial, las personas tenían grandes expectativas y se enorgullecían de comprar casas con ayuda de préstamos gubernamentales como el GI Bill.
¿Qué opinión tiene Melvin Baker sobre los políticos y su papel en la sociedad?
-Melvin Baker muestra desconfianza hacia los políticos, criticando su tendencia a obstaculizar el progreso y expresando su desilusión con los escándalos políticos modernos.
¿Cuál es la percepción de Melvin Baker sobre la diversidad de ocupaciones en el Congreso?
-Melvin Baker cree que el Congreso debería tener una representación más diversa en términos de profesiones, no solo abogados, para reflejar mejor la sociedad y sus necesidades.
¿Qué impacto cree Melvin Baker que tuvo la década de 1960 en la generación actual?
-Melvin Baker no ve un legado significativo de los años 60 en la generación actual, argumentando que la mayoría del impacto se centró en la guerra de Vietnam y no en cambios duraderos o en un legado tangible.
¿Cómo ve Melvin Baker a los jóvenes de hoy en comparación con los de la década de 1960?
-Melvin Baker considera que los jóvenes de hoy tienen mejores ideales y están más enfocados en sus metas en comparación con los de la década de 1960, quienes a menudo estaban enfocados en tener un buen tiempo y evitaban el servicio militar.
Outlines
😔 La Revolución Sexual y sus Consecuencias
El primer párrafo aborda la sorpresa y el impacto que la Revolución Sexual tuvo en la vida del narrador, quien proviene de una época diferente. Se menciona su desconcierto ante prácticas sexuales fuera del matrimonio y la creciente aceptación de la cohabitación, incluso entre mayores de edad, como medio para mantener ingresos. El narrador critica la dependencia del gobierno y la falta de moralidad en estas prácticas, reflejando su preocupación por el bienestar de su hija y la sociedad en general.
🏠 Perspectivas del Post-Guerra y la Época de Eisenhower
El segundo párrafo relata la esperanza y el optimismo que surgieron en la década de 1950, especialmente después de la Segunda Guerra Mundial y la Gran Depresión. Se destaca el papel de los veteranos y las políticas gubernamentales como el GI Bill que facilitaron la compra de viviendas y el crecimiento económico. Sin embargo, el narrador expresa su desilusión con la política y la falta de confianza en los políticos, criticando la predominancia de abogados en el Congreso y la complejidad de las leyes.
🤔 Reflexiones sobre la Década de 1960 y su Legado
El tercer párrafo analiza la década de 1960, centrada en el conflicto de Vietnam y el movimiento de la juventud que lo rodeó. El narrador no ve un legado significativo de esa época, a excepción de recuerdos y eventos como Woodstock, que considera más un festival que un legado duradero. Critica la falta de una verdadera herencia para las generaciones futuras y contrasta con logros concretos como el Acto de Seguridad Social de Franklin Roosevelt.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Revolución sexual
💡Día y edad
💡Prolijo
💡Dependencia del gobierno
💡Moralidad
💡Co-educación
💡Esperanzas generacionales
💡Política y escándalos
💡Diversificación ocupacional
💡Legado de los años 60
💡Juventud actual
Highlights
Melvin Baker expresses shock at the sexual revolution and the changes in societal norms from his time.
He humorously recounts his ignorance about prophylactics, highlighting the difference in awareness between generations.
Melvin discusses the evolution of societal acceptance, even among older generations, due to practical reasons like Social Security.
He criticizes the moral implications of out-of-wedlock births and the resulting dependency on government support.
Melvin reflects on the strict separation of genders in his upbringing and the societal expectations of his time.
He shares an anecdote about a snowstorm incident that was considered scandalous, illustrating the social norms of his youth.
Melvin observes the modern acceptance of cohabitation without marriage, even among younger colleagues.
He comments on the lack of moral standards in today's society, despite not being deeply religious himself.
Melvin talks about the economic optimism and opportunities in the 1950s, especially for veterans.
He expresses disillusionment with politics and politicians, citing a lack of trust and increasing scandals.
Melvin questions the motivations of wealthy individuals who enter politics, such as the Rockefellers and Kennedys.
He advocates for a more diverse representation in Congress, including people from various professions, not just lawyers.
Melvin criticizes the complexity of laws, attributing it to the overrepresentation of lawyers in legislative bodies.
He does not see a lasting legacy from the 1960s, considering it more of a period of youthful folly and experimentation.
Melvin acknowledges the intelligence of the youth in the 1960s but does not view their actions as leaving a meaningful legacy.
He contrasts the 1960s with the present, noting a difference in the ideals and aspirations of the current generation.
Melvin comments on the fashion and appearance of the youth, expressing his disapproval of unconventional styles.
Transcripts
melvin baker tape number three 1:09 good
something that's at my age I appreciate
believing well there again you see I'm
from a different time and day that much
far removed from these kids but still a
different time and day and I couldn't
believe it I was to me it was like
shocking in a way even though I'm a man
you know they say a man doesn't care as
much as a woman and all this but still
it was unreal to believe that this was
going on oh I'm sorry I thought forget
that now you talked about the sexual
revolution of if you want to call it
that it was kind of shocking to me that
all these things were going on because
my time of day we this was unheard of
you know you didn't talk about these
things like I used to kid around I say I
was 22 years old before I found out a
prophylactic wasn't a toothbrush and you
know we do we knew but not like the the
kids were practicing what we knew so to
speak and I guess they had grown one
step you know each generation goes one
step beyond the next so maybe that was
their way of you know going one step
beyond us in one thing and of course it
shocked people my category you know an
age and everything and it shocked most
of us but some of them even fell in with
it some of the older people even fell in
with it a little bit I don't say
completely but a little bit must be
because even the senior citizens were
living together
to keep to Social Security checks coming
in so they fell in with it really easy
in a way they had a reason you see but
it's no good I mean it's too loose and
too many things can happen a lot of
children are born out of wedlock
and the guy takes off and goes Christ
knows where and the girls left with the
problem with the kid now next thing you
know she can't make it in this world for
some reasons
not equipped with any kind of technical
skills or anything to make a living real
good live anyway so what happens she
falls into the the what do you call it
the framework of dependency on the
government and everything and so what
happens we're paying for it in the tax
structure see so I don't know it's it's
not good for a lot of other reasons too
it's not moral I mean if you're a
religious person is not moral I'm not
the greatest religious person but I
still say it's not moral I mean I
wouldn't want to see my daughter
pregnant not married I don't guess
anybody would I don't like that either
I just see I wasn't born it I I'm not up
with this sort of thing now the kids all
do it not all but they lot of them do it
they live with each other thing even in
colleges the dorms are co-ed and all
that sort of thing it's just strange to
me because I wasn't brought up that way
I was brought up the boys stayed here
the girls stayed there you know I mean I
mean that was it if you wanted to take a
girl I'd you take a girl I'd you want to
go dancing you good take a girl out and
everything but you didn't live with him
I don't know if any guy in my crowd that
ever lived with a girl really in the
hole and in their 20s most of us were in
our 20s and everything and most of us
got married about the same time and we
just never thought about things like it
forbid like one night I got caught in a
snowstorm over my wife shooting my
fiancée at the time got caught of her
house I'm a terrible snowstorm well they
had to put me up overnight so I slept in
the Attic by myself up in an attic I
didn't hear the end of it for two months
everybody said I was sleeping with my
wife in their room you know something
like that but you know it just
that's way things were in those days
they that was a scandal already you know
I write [ __ ] man this guy's terrible you
know me but now they don't even talk
about it doesn't even bother anybody
I noticed the guys some of the younger
guys down at the company I Drive the
cabs they talk about living with this
girl and that girl and you know they get
the phone messages Joanne says call home
right away now Joanne normally you'd say
your wife said to call home they said
Joanne said to call home
so that's not his wife you see you can
pick that up real quick
and they're all doing it so I don't know
it's just uh I guess that started it off
in those days and it just led up till
today and like I say even the senior
citizens have gotten into the act
theirs might be a little different
reason but they're still in the act
you know they figured well youngsters
are getting away with it we can do it -
you know nobody L told and everybody
excuses them because they feel sorry for
them because they'd have to give up one
Social Security check
so everybody gives them that excuse you
know to me but I don't know I just
couldn't do it and I wouldn't want my
see my daughter's doing it either really
well in the 50s we had big ideas you
know people were coming out of the war
in the early 50s and they were primarily
coming out of the war and depression all
at once see because the depression was
still going on when the war started but
people made some money during the war
they were able to buy homes and the
government came up with the GI loan and
that sort of thing for the veterans and
they bought a lot of homes so it started
giving everybody a lift
and people weren't so downtrodden then
people start working on their kids go to
school and you know get an education you
can do this and all the kids went to
school school was cheap in those days
you can get in a lot of good colleges
reasonable you know No
and everybody had expectations they were
gonna set the world on fire I mean I was
gonna write everything that was wrong
wasn't anything and I wasn't gonna set
straight
but uh you soon learn as you go along
that it just doesn't work that easy
there's always those politicians right
in your way that are gonna stop it and
put an end to it some reason or another
I don't know what their reason is or
what the cause is you know why they do
it but it seems that they all do it they
put the skids on everything it's good a
lot of times I don't say everything but
today I'll tell you the truth I wouldn't
look at a politician from five feet away
I don't want to get back close to a
politician five feet I just don't like I
don't trust him I don't have the
confidence in him that I once had years
ago today that well we're getting too
many scandals with these guys I never
heard of these kind of scandals years
ago maybe they were better at hiding it
in those days than they are today
and don't forget the media today is so
much faster than it used to be
we've got television that just like that
you've got all the news you want and
they catch these people May got people
out on the street to catch these people
the thing I don't understand about
certain politicians why they even want
to be politicians you think well good
example would be a guy like Rockefeller
why did he want to be a politician the
guy had everything in this world maybe
it's nigo trip maybe it's power maybe
it's prestige to go along with what he
already had but he really doesn't need
it the Kennedys don't need it I mean you
know it's just odd the way that we get
our politicians where they come from I
think in the Congress I don't know what
the percentage is but it must be around
80 or 90% of them are lawyers and they
claim that you have to be a lawyer to be
in Congress to figure out the laws and
so forth I still maintain that we should
have a better cross-section of the
people in Congress that we should have
more diversified type occupations
representing the people in the country I
mean I don't see any carpenters up in
Congress I don't see any cab drivers up
here that's for sure and I think they
could be taught to handle the routine of
Congress and everything maybe with a
little more practical sense too and see
the original forefathers when you look
at their occupations they were what
farmers mechanics doctor here and there
and different things like that they were
well diverse to us few ministers of
different faiths they were scattered out
you know it was more of a broad section
of the population and now they're all
lawyers and lawyers think in terms of
law and legality and real comp they make
everything so complicated and I think
that's the trouble with some of our laws
are so complicated we can't figure them
out you need another lawyer to figure
out what the other lawyers
doing do you see anywhere in effect of
the 60s on us today the kind of country
we are today what kind of legacy do you
see it's left I'll be honest with you I
don't see any legacy that they did leave
I mean the 60s they had their
controversy but I think basically all
it's centered around was the Vietnamese
war
I honestly believe that that was the old
cruxit a thing at that time and they
made up all their folk music and all the
other things that they did it all
centered around that Vietnamese war they
didn't want to go in the Army or the
Navy whatever it might have been but
these guys the men didn't want to go
into service which like I said I can't
blame him in a way because it was a
lousy war we should have been in it but
I think that's what the crux of the 60s
was about as far as leaving us anything
today I don't think they left us a thing
but memories that we remember all these
things
Woodstock like I said before that was
played up big units I think they just
had the anniversary of it or something
like that and I mean what was it I mean
he's just a good party it was like a big
party for a lot of them and that doesn't
leave any legacy I mean that's not a
legacy to me a legacy is when Franklin
Roosevelt the vote devised the Social
Security Act
that's a legacy he handed something down
to the next generations and you have
something concrete that you know you can
hold on to but I don't see where the
sixties were a big thing for legacy you
know to hand down to this generation or
this time and day I just don't see it I
don't see anything it shows today from
that period kind of a youthful folly and
experimentation or do you can you see
some good good parts of it well yeah I I
see the kids really we're intelligent
kids they weren't dummies don't get me
wrong I mean a lot of wars in colleges
and things you know going to school but
uh they were out for a good time a lot
of them I mean you know just like any
college kid what are they
used to go to Fort Lauderdale in the
spring break and he'd tear the place
apart
that's a lark you know I mean but the
salm were all net but they were
intelligent enough to know what they
were doing a lot of them and they had
their leaders than what was at the
Chicago seven was that one bunch or
something you know I forgot all their
names and Hofmann and that's the name
sticks out for some reason Abbie Hoffman
but I think he was just in the news
recently maybe that's what it is
but these people you know they they were
the less you know leading these up the
troops on and the troops were like
cannon fodder you know they just went
anywhere they were told for the most
part hey they're the ones that got it
bad and and leaders you know they did
nothing happened to these guys they went
to jail some of them but yeah what's
there to go into jail nowadays you go to
a country club up north somewhere and
they stick a pair with guys like used to
be like huffing them people they they
they don't do time they they they pass
time away in jail you see and these guys
nothing happened and like I say it
didn't leave and it didn't carry on to
another generation or anything it's just
the only thing it carried on maybe is
that the kids some of the kids today
still like to dress goofy like yet
I call it goofy because I can't stand to
see a kid with hair straight up in the
air painted pink purple and blue I mean
it me what that means and I might be a
little jealous cuz I don't have that
much hair too I mean that might be one
of the reasons but no I I don't think it
left anything for this generation I see
this generation of young people being a
little different I see them taking more
of an active pardon going on they're not
as sloppy as those kids we're have
better ideals about what they want to do
with their lives they seem to be aiming
somewhere for the most part I think
these kids today are doing a lot better
than they did in the sixties really so I
don't see anything left over from he
said that will affect these kids that's
it oh my god
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