She Accused A Smaller Vtuber Of "Stealing Her Design" And It Backfired HORRIBLY
Summary
TLDRIn this video, the host discusses a controversy between two virtual YouTubers, 'Powder' and 'Royalty', over design and concept similarities. Powder, with a larger following, accuses the less-known Royalty of copying their character's design. Royalty refutes this in a detailed Google Doc, offering to make changes. Powder's response and subsequent video are perceived as mean-spirited and unprofessional, leading to a backlash from the community. The situation highlights the challenges of originality in a saturated VTuber market and the importance of handling disputes with maturity.
Takeaways
- 😀 The video discusses a conflict between two virtual YouTubers (Vtubers), Powder and Royalty, over design and concept similarities.
- 👥 Powder, with 34,000 followers, accuses Royalty, who has 2,000 followers, of copying their Vtuber design and concept.
- 📄 Royalty responds with a Google Doc, explaining coincidences and a willingness to change details to address Powder's concerns.
- 🔍 Powder's response is perceived as mocking and mean-spirited, damaging their image and leading to a negative reception from the community.
- 📹 Powder makes a video comparing the two Vtubers' models, which is seen as an ill-advised move and further alienates the audience.
- 💬 The community's reaction to Powder's video is largely negative, with many pointing out the unreasonableness of the accusations.
- 🤔 Powder's insistence on owning certain concepts like 'white-haired elf' and 'demon' is questioned, as these are common tropes in the Vtuber community.
- 📈 Powder's approach to the situation is criticized for being aggressive and unprofessional, potentially harming their brand.
- 🤝 An attempt is made to mediate the situation, but Powder remains unapologetic and defensive, failing to resolve the conflict.
- 🔗 The script highlights the oversaturation of the Vtuber market and the natural overlap of concepts among creators.
- 📉 The situation reflects poorly on Powder, suggesting that they could have handled the situation more diplomatically to avoid controversy.
Q & A
What is the main issue discussed in the video script?
-The main issue is a conflict between two virtual YouTubers, Powder and Royalty, where Powder accuses Royalty of copying their design and concept as a VTuber.
How many followers does Powder have according to the script?
-Powder has around 34,000 followers.
What is the approximate follower count of Royalty mentioned in the script?
-Royalty has about 2,000 followers.
What did Powder claim about Royalty's VTuber design and concept?
-Powder claimed that Royalty ripped off their design and concept, trying to ride on the coattails of Powder's success.
How did Royalty respond to the accusations?
-Royalty released a Google Doc explaining their side of the situation, stating there was no ill intent and that many similarities were coincidental. They were even willing to change some details to accommodate Powder.
What was the community's reaction to Powder's initial call-out post?
-The initial reaction was positive, with about 2,000 likes and only seven quotes, most of them supportive.
What term did Powder use to describe their character's concept, and what was its significance in the conflict?
-Powder used the term 'Damon' to describe their character's concept, which has both a computer-based definition and historical/Biblical references to demons and supernatural beings. This term became a point of contention in the conflict.
What was the outcome of the direct messages exchanged between Powder and Royalty?
-The direct messages showed that Powder did not believe Royalty's explanations and continued to express discomfort and suspicion about the similarities between their VTuber concepts.
How did Powder's response video impact the situation?
-Powder's response video, which compared the two models side by side, was perceived negatively by the community, with many considering it mean-spirited and unprofessional.
What was the general sentiment towards Powder's actions in the community?
-The community largely viewed Powder's actions as aggressive and egotistical, with many suggesting that they were overreacting and being unreasonable in their accusations.
What advice was given to Powder during the live stream discussion with Elara?
-The advice given to Powder during the live stream was to consider taking down the snarky response video, apologize if they felt it was necessary, and to move on from the situation.
Outlines
😠 VTuber Design Controversy
The video script introduces a conflict between two virtual YouTubers (Vtubers), Powder and Royalty. Powder, with a significant following, accuses Royalty of copying their design and concept. Royalty, having a smaller audience, responds with a Google Doc explaining the coincidences and their willingness to make changes. Powder's response is perceived as mocking, and the comparison of their character models is shown, highlighting the similarities and Powder's claim of concept ownership.
🤔 Accusations and Responses
This paragraph delves into the back-and-forth between Powder and Royalty. Powder expresses discomfort with the similarities in design and lore, especially since Royalty was following her account. Royalty provides evidence of previous communication and a willingness to change aspects of their character to address Powder's concerns. However, Powder remains skeptical, and the situation escalates with public messages and direct accusations, reflecting poorly on Powder's approach.
📚 Documenting the Dispute
The script outlines the extensive documentation provided by both parties in Google Docs. Powder's document emphasizes her serious approach to her brand and the perceived copying by Royalty. It also includes a message to 'haters' defending her position and expressing her discomfort with the situation. Meanwhile, Royalty's document reiterates their innocence and attempts to clarify misunderstandings, but the situation remains unresolved.
💥 Escalation and Public Reaction
The final paragraph describes the further escalation of the conflict through a live stream and social media interactions. Powder's participation in the stream and her responses in the chat are highlighted, showing her doubling down on her accusations and maintaining a defiant stance. The public's reaction is mixed, with some criticizing Powder's approach as mean-spirited and unprofessional. The video concludes by inviting viewers to share their opinions on the matter.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Vtuber
💡Call out
💡Google Doc
💡Rip off
💡Design and Concept
💡Mean girl
💡DM (Direct Message)
💡Accommodations
💡Ethics
💡Sarcasm
💡Stream
Highlights
Introduction of a vtuber-related drama involving two characters, Powder and Royalty.
Powder, a vtuber with 34,000 followers, accuses Royalty, a vtuber with 2,000 followers, of copying their design and concept.
Royalty releases a Google Doc explaining their side, stating there was no ill intent and many similarities were coincidental.
Powder's response is perceived as a mean girl routine, mocking the situation and damaging their image.
Visual comparison of Powder and Royalty's models shows similarities but also clear differences.
Powder's Twitter post insinuates that Royalty is a lookalike and questions their ethics.
Royalty's Google Doc reveals past communication attempts with Powder to address concerns.
Powder expresses discomfort with the similarities and a lack of belief in Royalty's explanations.
Royalty offers to change certain details to accommodate Powder's concerns, showing willingness to resolve the issue.
Powder's response includes a screenshot of a mutual accusing Royalty of being a ripoff.
Royalty and their artist clarify that there was no intent to copy and express frustration with being called a liar.
Powder's video response, using copyrighted music, compares models and is seen as aggressive and unprofessional.
Community reaction to Powder's video is largely negative, with many viewing it as mean-spirited.
Powder's replies to criticism on Twitter come off as sarcastic and defensive, further damaging their reputation.
Elara's stream discussion on the drama includes Powder's participation, which escalates the situation.
Powder's refusal to apologize or acknowledge mistakes during the stream contributes to the ongoing conflict.
The video concludes with a call for viewer opinions in the comments section, highlighting the subjective nature of the drama.
Transcripts
hey what's up guys R here so today we're
going to cover another round of vtuber
related drama and as you can see from
the main protagonist here we're not off
to a great start but before we get into
the fine details of the situation I want
to give you a too long didn't read
version of events to give you guys some
greater understanding of what we're
going to talk about here so basically we
have a situation where a v by the name
of powder would call out another vtuber
as you can see powder has around 34,000
followers and she would call out this
vtuber named to Lily who also goes by
the name royalty who has about 2,000
followers a small fraction of what
powder has now what powder is doing is
they are claiming that essentially
royalty ripped off all of their design
and their concept as a vtuber as a whole
and are trying to ride on the coattails
of their success and when royalty would
release a Google doc explaining their
side of the situation that there was no
ill intent or a lot of things were just
coincidences and they were even willing
to change some of the details to
accommodate powder powder would then
respond with basically a mean girl
routine mocking the situation and it
made powder look very bad and I'm also
going to hit you guys with kind of the
money shot here here are the two models
in question we are comparing powder on
the left here to royalty on the right
now as you can see this person right
here is kind of mocking the situation
basically powder is relying on the fact
that these look the exact same and on
top of that she is relying on the
thought process that apparently she owns
the concept of a white-haired elf with
Supernatural attributes which is really
crazy to say I mean like what are you
going to do make a call out post on free
and next it's very strange but let's get
into the details of this situation here
is powder as you can see a demon or
Damon vtu I'm not sure what the correct
pronunciation is but this term will be
very important in a few minutes so a few
days ago she made this vague but not so
vague call out post on Twitter saying
this I just want to come out and say
that I am aware there is another vtuber
in the space with a similar design color
and well lore name I have already made
efforts in the past to communicate with
both artist and vour not much happened
other than I was able to voice my
concern you can see the reception to
this was pretty positive about 2,000
likes only seven quotes most of them
positive by the way and they would end
their statement with this saying knowing
what I know about the creation of the
lookalike I am disappointed and I do
question ethics but overall there is
only one powder I do not wish to Bar
people from inspiration but I do wish
people would be more creative obviously
a pretty serious set of statements here
essentially calling this other person a
lookalike implying that they're ripping
off their design and concept however
because of the not only the very direct
nature of this like I said vague but not
so vague call out post and their history
Lily AKA royalty would know this post
was about them and they would make a
Google doc response here saying hi
everyone I haven't been online but I've
been made aware of a situation here is
my response with receipts and I
apologize for any further concerns
anyone has I do not contone any hate
being spread on behalf of this I hope
this clears the air and this is the
beginning of the Google Doc where they
share that her and Cherry the artist
behind the model had already contacted
powder a year ago about the situation
when they revealed their redesign at
that time and they attempted to even
accommodate some of these concerns that
powder had but basically this all boiled
down to powder saying I hear what you're
saying but I just don't believe you so
here's some of the DMS so powder reaches
out and says hey royalty I don't want
any of this to come across as hostile by
any means but I have concerns about your
design combined with your lore Damon I
took it took me very long to come up
with the design for my character and my
lore which fits with the Damon term
because I am a computer program which
was uh which is what a Damon is now I
looked into this and this was shared in
the Google Doc that term in its spelling
yes it has a computer-based definition
as well but that's also a historic and
Biblical reference to Demons in general
and also some other supernatural beings
so that's not just a computer term she
was within her right to label herself
with this term because as she points out
in her initial response she has a demon
concept she wanted to do an elf with
long white hair that is a pretty classic
Trope among anime and also vs and they
had this old spelling this Old English
version of spelling demon that went
along with their lore and their Concepts
and then powder would respond by sharing
a DM from a supposed Mutual basically
saying that they believed that royalty
was a ripoff of powder and powder would
say this attached to the screenshot I
don't mean to sound rude but I don't
believe you about the motivation behind
your lore I just want to avoid these
types of messages from mutuals and I
feel uncomfortable knowing you knew of
me during the design process because
apparently royalty was following powder
at the time which to powder that meant
that they knew them and knew all about
everything to do with their account and
their concept but then you would see
further responses from Powder saying
that basically they tacked on elf and
now it's too similar and these
similarities did catch the eyes of
others and they're wondering in the
future if there's any more comparisons
and they don't want to C cause any more
trouble and they would be nervous if
they were royalty because the design is
so similar and then basically they end
by saying is there any room to wiggle on
either of these things basically
relating to the various Concepts behind
royalties V2 character and they would
respond with a statement from their
Artist as well but they would say I'm
sorry you feel the way you do but I
really don't know what else to tell you
and I don't mean to sound rude either
but I really don't appreciate basically
being called a liar if you don't want to
believe me then don't but as you can see
after I gave my description of what I
was wanting that the first design that
was presented to me and I loved it there
were no references to you at all and you
weren't even part of the design process
and going forward they would share some
more details and also clarify that they
had this term Damon or demon and they
were willing to change it to the regular
spelling of demon to accommodate the
concerns of powder who would then reply
by saying basically they appreciate this
and they are just sad about this
situation and there's going to be
speculation that uh there's some sort of
weird situation going on between these
two and that's kind of where it lied for
that moment and they would also add here
to that uh they feel weird about this
whole thing and they're not trying to be
aggressive and they're giving advice but
that's where we're at with that Google
doc that's essentially the the majority
of what's on there and then we would see
Cherry here who is the artist and rigor
behind the model and the concept who had
released their own brief statement about
this situation and basically share some
DMS further clarifying that there is no
intent to copy it's pretty
straightforward and then royalty would
respond basically saying that they try
to work this out and it seems like
they're just kind of at an impass here
and also mentioned through this uh at
several points we saw powder mention
that they would make a statement in the
future if they felt the need to and
that's what they did with that initial
call Post and seeing the Google Doc and
a lot of the information being clarified
IED powder would make a very ill-advised
response video this was a few hours
after royalty had made her Google doc
and it says my response and I can't play
the video it's got copyrighted music but
basically it's like some weird Tick Tock
type meme video where they're showing
side by-side comparisons of their models
essentially trying to once again claim
that there was some sort of stealing of
Concepts here and you can see based on
comparing this post to her original
vague uh call out post this one went
really badly the other one had about
2,000 likes with only 7 quotes this one
has about 600 likes with over a 100
quotes people saw the way this was
framed and some of her responses and the
replies and it came off like a mean girl
type breakdown right and you can see
also right in the first reply she
directly tagged the artist and the
vtuber so people can immediately go to
their accounts and also with this kind
of passive aggressive for you language
added on to it it's not a very good look
and you can see at first when it was
going positively for the first like hour
or so she was kind of like joking in the
replies people said that video is nasty
work absolutely diabolical where powder
replied saying the parasites in my head
made me do it but things would start
breaking down when people started to
really think this whole thing is
mean-spirited and just kind of childish
and immature where this user said girl
this is not it why are you being so
unnecessarily mean where powder says hum
or humor is my coping mechanism where
the other user replies saying it doesn't
make it any less malicious just talk
[ __ ] behind closed doors then I don't
know dude I hope she never sees it so
she isn't unnecessarily harassed where
powder said I tagged her so it's a
little too late if she doesn't want to
see it which of course you could reply
by saying uh just delete it to prevent
further harassment but then another
person with say I don't know man I think
a simple tweet saying you know Lily's
design and have talked to them behind
the scenes was all you needed to say
quite frankly your lack of
professionalism brought this on no such
thing as vagueness on the internet you
forced small creators into a defense and
she replies with an original call out
post the vague one which of course she's
ignoring the fact that she also added on
things like this where she's saying that
she knew there was a lookalike and this
whole thing was brought on by her going
public with this situation but on top of
that another user would say dude this
ain't it tonight I read a total of 72
Google dock Pages between both sides and
all I can say is brh just stop you're
both adults behave as such and move on
rowter says oh yes I'm going to leave it
here no worries I mean damn I ain't
doing another dock LM LMAO tomorrow is a
fresh new day for Dark Souls which is
like a weird stream plug but yes there's
two Google Docs because lost in the
spray they attached a Google doc
response to that video where they were
basically trying to mock the entire
situation that they created for
themselves and in that doc there's
really not a whole lot basically kind of
just reiterating everything we already
know and trying to rely on speculation
to frame the other party as ripping her
off but I think this section is the most
telling let me read this section from uh
from her Google doc powder's Google doc
saying um message to the haters you
might look at me as just some dumb
whining anime girl but this is my job I
take it very seriously and a lot of
planning when it's my vtuber model it is
my brand I use this to stand out as much
as possible don't come at me with the
you're bullying a smaller account okay
weirdo I built My Success using my brand
SL model so I'm going to feel a little
uncomfortable I know exactly what it
feels like to be that smaller account
I'm going to be uncomfortable when the
design looks like my OC in all outfit
the lore name is the same color palette
similar the artist has a similar art
style to mine they artist and vtuber
actively follow me oh and other people
are actively pointing out the
similarities throughout the whole
process I don't know man the math is
mathing for me you can call me dramatic
but I ain't blind I hope you achieved
what you wanted in the end I'm not
attacking anyone for being small or
trying to post this at a bad time if
anything this probably just helps them
so yeah this is kind of uh coming off as
a bit egotistical okay I'm going to be
honest like yes powder you have some
success as a vtuber you are not like
iron Mouse okay you're acting like
you're so high and above everything this
is kind of ridiculous to believe that
you own color palettes that you own the
concept of a white haired Elf or the
term demon it it's getting a bit much
and many vtubers including myself and
and content creators in general have
dealt with similar situations where
someone has similar Concepts as you
similar types of content or the way they
build their content but at the end of
the day you are you and all you can do
is focus on yourself and unless someone
is 100% ripping you off entirely that is
a situation you can worry about but
situations where people have similar
Concepts or take inspiration from you
even like directly taking inspiration
from you it's okay that's why we end up
in situations where every single time
there there's a new pink-haired cat girl
on the scene someone's calling her a
ripoff nanners or someone comes out as
an aquatic themed V and they're called a
ripoff of shy ly and so on and so forth
It's really ridiculous how people think
given V owns an entire set of Concepts
the market right now with v tuers is so
oversaturated I can't even begin to
understate that okay it is very
oversaturated people are going to
overlap on their Concepts that is a
natural thing to happen but anyways
someone would point out that section of
the Google doc saying it's very weird
where powder would simply reply by
saying if the shoe fits where that user
says going around to every quote tweet
replying to criticism with sarcasm isn't
going to help you win any hearts over I
recommend considering it's 400 a.m. my
time to go to sleep uh take some time
away from Twitter and maybe Reach Out
privately where they say thank you I'll
definitely consider that you get some
good rest and this person says I
recommend doing it instead of just
considering it where then powder says no
Mom I'm a big girl now and then this
user says act like one then and then she
replies with this like emo GIF here
saying I'm so sad it just it looks so
childish and then things would get worse
when the next morning Elara would do a
stream and during that stream they're
talking about this situation with powder
and royalty and and powder would join
the stream not only were they in the
replies of the chat saying things like
uh some parties sharing their opinion
are too biased because they've worked
with the model or the the creator of the
artwork but on top of that they would
join in like I said and things would get
really messy really fast and basically
I'm going to share a couple of Clips
here but in essence what you're going to
hear is powder doubling tripling and
quadrupling down on all of their POS
including the sarcastic and quite
frankly somewhat rude responses they had
over the past 24 hours and you can even
see Alara trying to kind of push them
towards the right response and they
still just make some pretty unhinged
remarks
any intend harm from other people I
intended harm from myself to them right
um yeah but that's not what happened
girl I understand that's not what
happened at all I understand but I'm I'm
trying to like get your advice in this
should I I I would never really I would
never really like intend harm from me to
somebody else you know like I don't I
don't think that way she does recognize
that she acted a little uh rashly and
you know uh acknowledges that is that
fair is that good
I don't want to put no I I do feel like
I acted um emotionally I
agree do I regret what I've done
no um am I currently still emotional
about it yeah probably
um do I want to
apologize
no
um I think you
should I appreciate that you know that's
uh that's something that's on you if you
want to do that that is up to you
everything
becomes more and more of this is just
bound to happen you know what I mean
like it it sucks but yeah I I think you
I think you've said your peace I think I
would I would probably take down to
snarky response but you know uh but I
appreciate the no I understand that is
your choice girly yeah I'm going to be
honest I don't think any of that did
anything to help out the situation in
fact I think her responses on that
stream made this situation even Messier
for powder I mean it's coming off like
mean girl Behavior and the inability to
apologize or to recognize any of her
mistakes is making this worse the best
thing she could have done is take down
that most recent post or really take
down all of the related posts and simply
make something that looks like an
apology or something that looks like
they're trying to move on or to condem
demn the harassment that was directed
towards the other vtuber in this
situation but for now that's going to do
it obviously we're dealing with a lot of
subjective stuff and people are entitled
to their own opinion so I'd be glad to
hear what you guys have to say about
this situation in the comments section
down below but that's going to do it for
this video I hope you guys enjoyed and
I'll see you next time
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