Camilla Tominey argues we can judge the private lives of celebrities because they invite us to do so

OxfordUnion
1 Apr 202410:29

Summary

TLDRThe debate centers on whether the public has the right to judge the private lives of public figures, especially when they willingly share aspects of their lives on social media. The speaker argues that celebrities often invite positive judgment but face scrutiny when the narrative turns negative. Examples include Prince Harry and Meghan's openness and celebrities like the Beckhams and JLo inviting media into their lives. The focus shifts to the impact of social media, where public judgment can be harsh and unregulated, contrasting with mainstream media bound by law and press regulation.

Takeaways

  • 📢 The debate centers on whether the public has the right to judge the private lives of public figures, especially when they invite such scrutiny.
  • 🎤 The speaker acknowledges that public figures often invite judgment by sharing personal details through various media platforms.
  • 🤔 The line between freedom of expression and the right to privacy is becoming increasingly difficult to draw, partly due to the pervasive influence of social media.
  • 👑 The speaker uses the example of Prince Harry and Meghan to illustrate how public figures can both complain about and court media attention.
  • 📚 The speaker argues that public figures who choose to share intimate details of their lives cannot then object to the public's judgment of those details.
  • 📺 Celebrities, like the Beckhams and Jennifer Lopez, are highlighted as examples of those who have willingly opened their lives to the public via media like Netflix.
  • 📸 The script mentions that celebrities sometimes invite paparazzi to take photographs, suggesting a complex relationship between privacy and publicity.
  • 🚫 The speaker emphasizes the importance of legal safeguards and press regulation to protect the privacy rights of those with a reasonable expectation of it.
  • 🤳 The rise of 'no-makeup selfies' on social media is cited as an example of how celebrities invite judgment of their natural appearance.
  • 📈 The focus of the debate is questioned, with the speaker suggesting that the real issue is not with mainstream media but with the behavior of celebrities and the judgments made on social media.
  • 🚷 The speaker concludes that while the public has the right to judge public figures' private lives, this right is most relevant when those figures are actively inviting such judgment.

Q & A

  • What is the main argument presented in the transcript about the right to judge the private lives of public figures?

    -The main argument is that the public has the right to judge the private lives of public figures, especially when these figures invite such judgment by sharing aspects of their lives publicly.

  • Why does the speaker believe the line between freedom of expression and the right to privacy is becoming increasingly difficult to draw?

    -The speaker believes this line is difficult to draw because public figures are repeatedly invading their own privacy by sharing personal details, thus inviting public judgment.

  • What examples does the speaker provide to illustrate public figures inviting judgment on their private lives?

    -Examples include Prince Harry and Meghan Markle sharing their experiences with Oprah Winfrey and through Netflix, as well as celebrities like the Beckhams and Jennifer Lopez opening their lives to the public through reality shows and social media.

  • How does the speaker address the criticism that the media is to blame for the invasion of privacy?

    -The speaker argues that it's not just the media's fault but also the celebrities themselves who are willingly sharing their private lives, thus making it difficult to draw a line between public interest and invasion of privacy.

  • What is the speaker's view on the role of social media in the judgment of public figures' private lives?

    -The speaker views social media as a platform where public figures encourage positive judgment but also a place where the public can judge and abuse without any safeguards, leading to a toxic environment.

  • Why does the speaker mention the 'no makeup selfie' trend among celebrities?

    -The 'no makeup selfie' trend is mentioned to highlight how celebrities invite the public to judge them in their most natural state, which can lead to both positive and negative judgments.

  • What is the speaker's stance on the impact of public figures' private lives on the public's perception of their public roles?

    -The speaker suggests that the focus on private lives can distract from the public roles of these figures, but also acknowledges that celebrities invite judgment of both their perfection and imperfection.

  • How does the speaker differentiate between the judgment by the mainstream media and that by the public on social media?

    -The speaker differentiates by stating that mainstream media is governed by law and regulated, whereas social media lacks such safeguards, leading to more unpleasant and unregulated judgment.

  • What is the speaker's opinion on the role of paparazzi in the invasion of privacy of public figures?

    -The speaker implies that while paparazzi can be intrusive, celebrities sometimes invite paparazzi attention to appear in the media, blurring the lines of invasion of privacy.

  • What safeguards does the speaker mention are in place to protect the privacy of public figures?

    -The speaker mentions the law of privacy and the press regulator, such as the IPSO code of conduct, which are meant to protect those with a reasonable expectation of privacy.

  • How does the speaker conclude the debate on the right to judge the private lives of public figures?

    -The speaker concludes by reiterating that the public has the right to judge when public figures invite such judgment, but also highlights the issues arising from the lack of safeguards on social media.

Outlines

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🎤 Public Figures and the Invitation to Judge

The speaker argues that the public has the right to judge the private lives of public figures, especially when those figures actively invite such judgment. The debate revolves around the blurred lines between freedom of expression and the right to privacy, exacerbated by the 24-hour news cycle and social media. The speaker uses Prince Harry and Meghan Markle as examples of public figures who have willingly shared intimate details of their lives, thus inviting public scrutiny. They also point out the inconsistency in celebrities complaining about privacy invasion when they actively court media attention. The speaker emphasizes that public figures cannot selectively invite positive judgment and then complain when the scrutiny turns negative.

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📸 The Role of Media and Paparazzi in Celebrity Privacy

This paragraph delves into the relationship between celebrities and the media, including paparazzi, and how they often invite attention rather than being victims of invasion. The speaker highlights that celebrities, such as Helen Mirren and Jennifer Lopez, have strategically used the paparazzi to their advantage, presenting themselves in a favorable light. The discussion also touches on the issue of paparazzi chasing children, with the speaker suggesting that the royal family has largely controlled this by providing their own images. The speaker criticizes the focus on mainstream media in the debate, arguing that the real problem lies with celebrities oversharing and the unregulated judgments of the public on social media platforms.

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🤔 The Conundrum of Celebrity Privacy and Public Judgment

The final paragraph reinforces the right of the public to judge the private lives of public figures, particularly when those figures are actively seeking public attention. The speaker criticizes the focus on mainstream media in the debate, asserting that the real issues are celebrities' excessive self-disclosure and the unregulated judgments made by the public on social media. The speaker calls for a distinction between constructive criticism and toxic debate, advocating for a more agreeable form of disagreement. The paragraph concludes by emphasizing the need to address the root causes of the privacy debate, which are celebrity culture and social media behavior.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Judgment

Judgment refers to the act of forming an opinion or conclusion about something or someone. In the context of the video, it is central to the debate on whether the public has the right to judge the private lives of public figures. The script discusses how public figures often invite judgment by sharing intimate details of their lives, as seen with Prince Harry and Meghan's media appearances and the Netflix documentary.

💡Privacy

Privacy is the state of being free from public attention or scrutiny. The video script explores the tension between the right to privacy and the public's interest in the personal lives of public figures. It mentions how public figures like the Beckhams and Jennifer Lopez have opened up their lives to the public through media, thereby blurring the lines of what is private.

💡Public Figures

Public figures are individuals who are well known by the public, often due to their roles in politics, entertainment, or other fields. The script argues that these individuals often invite the public to judge their lives by sharing personal information, thus they are central to the debate on the right to judge their private lives.

💡Freedom of Expression

Freedom of expression is the right to express one's opinions freely without censorship. The video discusses how this right can conflict with the right to privacy, especially in the context of public figures who share aspects of their lives and then face scrutiny.

💡Social Media

Social media refers to online platforms that allow users to create and share content or participate in social networking. The script mentions the role of social media in the narcissistic era, where public figures encourage positive judgments of their lives, but also contribute to the spread of negative judgments without regulation.

💡Paparazzi

Paparazzi are photographers who pursue celebrities to take candid pictures, often invading their privacy. The video script discusses how celebrities sometimes invite paparazzi attention, which contributes to the debate on the right to privacy and the public's right to know about their lives.

💡Mainstream Media

Mainstream media refers to the dominant mass media outlets, such as newspapers, television, and radio, which are subject to regulation and law. The script contrasts the mainstream media with social media, suggesting that much of the negative judgment of public figures comes from unregulated social media rather than the mainstream media.

💡Constructive Criticism

Constructive criticism is feedback that is intended to help someone improve by pointing out potential solutions or areas for development. The script suggests that criticism should be constructive, implying that the public's judgment of public figures should be fair and aimed at improvement rather than simply negative.

💡Royal Family

The Royal Family refers to the British monarchy and its members. The script uses the Royal Family, particularly Prince Harry and Meghan, as an example of public figures who have shared their private lives with the public and faced judgment as a result.

💡Netfilx

Netflix is a streaming service that offers a wide variety of TV shows, movies, and documentaries. The script mentions Netflix as a platform where public figures like Harry and Meghan have chosen to share their stories, inviting the public to judge their lives.

💡IPso

IPso stands for the Independent Press Standards Organisation, which is a regulatory body for the press in the UK. The script refers to IPso to highlight that there are legal safeguards and a code of conduct that mainstream media must follow, contrasting with the lack of regulation on social media.

Highlights

The right to judge the private lives of public figures is a topic of debate, with the assertion that we have this right when public figures invite us to do so.

The line between freedom of expression and the right to privacy is becoming increasingly difficult to draw, especially in the age of 24-hour news and social media.

Public figures are often the ones invading their own privacy by sharing personal details, thus inviting judgment from the public.

The debate highlights the presumption that judgments are negative, but public figures also encourage positive judgments through platforms like Instagram and social media.

Examples such as Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are used to illustrate how public figures can both invade their own privacy and that of others without providing a right of reply.

The speaker argues that public figures cannot control the narrative when they choose to put themselves in the public eye, as evidenced by Harry and Meghan's changing headlines post-wedding.

Celebrities like the Beckhams and Jennifer Lopez are opening their lives to Netflix, inviting judgment on their roles as parents, spouses, and public figures.

The speaker points out that celebrities sometimes invite paparazzi to take staged photos to appear in the media, contradicting the notion of intrusive paparazzi.

The debate also touches on the issue of paparazzi chasing children, particularly royal children, and the lack of market for such photography since the 1980s.

The speaker emphasizes that the right to judge is not solely a mainstream media issue but also a problem with celebrities and social media, where judgment can be harsh and unregulated.

The speaker suggests that celebrities inviting judgment on their 'no makeup' selfies are opening themselves up to both positive and negative scrutiny.

The focus of the debate should not be solely on mainstream media, which is regulated, but also on the role of social media and public judgment.

The speaker argues for constructive criticism and agreeable disagreement, contrasting this with the toxic nature of judgment found on social media.

The debate concludes with the assertion that while we have the right to judge public figures, it is most appropriate when they are inviting us to do so.

The speaker emphasizes the importance of privacy laws and press regulation in protecting the rights of those with a reasonable expectation of privacy.

The transcript highlights the complexity of the relationship between public figures, the media, and the public's right to judge their private lives.

Transcripts

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of course we have the right to judge the

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private lives of public figures but

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almost certainly we have the right to

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judge it when they themselves are

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inviting us to do

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so thank you Madame President and thank

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you for having me here my wonderful

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chicken dinner and also congratulations

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to the student speakers tonight who I

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think have all been extremely

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impressive this house believes we have a

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right to judge the private lives of

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public figures now this motion was

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contextualized by the Oxford Union and

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it the question was asked why has the

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line between freedom of expression and a

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right to privacy become increasingly

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difficult to draw according to the

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opposition it's because of the age of

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24-hour news as ever it is all the

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media's fault I'm surprised actually not

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to see the opposition donning Ginger

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wigs here tonight channeling their inner

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Prince Harry as they complain infamy

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infamy they've all got it

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infamy but actually the line is become

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impossible to draw because public

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figures repeatedly invade their own

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privacy public figures are constantly

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inviting us to judge their private lives

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what's been interesting about this

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debate is

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the presumption that the judgment ments

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are all negative what we see

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increasingly in the narcissistic era of

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Instagram and selfies and social media

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is public figures absolutely encouraging

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us to judge them positively isn't it

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interesting ladies and gentlemen that we

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never have public figures complaining

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when their privacy is intruded upon to

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positive effect let's take Harry and

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Megan as a case in point when it comes

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to invading one's own privacy if it

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wasn't enough for them to be pouring

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their hearts out to Oprah Winfrey we

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then had to hear their truth through the

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medium of Netflix and then we had to be

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subjected to spare in which Harry

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treated us to such intimate details as

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the application of Elizabeth ardan cream

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to his frostbitten penis while

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incidentally he thought of his late

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mother what are we to do with such

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intimate details disregard them not

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apply a sense of

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judgment please we all be better off

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mentally phally psychologically not

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thinking about Prince Harry applying

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down there uh I would say almost

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certainly and in the same way sir that

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we would all be mentally spiritually and

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morally better off never to think of

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that image of Matt hanock

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again anyone who is familiar with the

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South Park l toning of their world

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privacy tour will get the contradiction

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here a couple bangging on about their

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privacy while invading not only their

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own private lives but the private lives

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of their Royal relatives without giving

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them any right of reply may I add and

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yet com yes the difference not consent I

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if you are a public decides to book make

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appear TV

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show public intervie to R certain

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precisely

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precisely and the deciding to the

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pap but that is why we've heard from

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Lord folks that I have to abide by the

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ipso code of conduct every day of my

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working life that is precisely why we do

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have a law of privacy in this country

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and why we do have the safeguards of the

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press regulator because it's absolutely

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unacceptable to invade the privacy of

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the rights of those who have a

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reasonable expectation of it a

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reasonable expectation of privacy is

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something enshrined in law however if

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you are inviting people to judge your

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private life positively you can't turn

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the tap of publicity off when the

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scrutiny becomes negative Harry and

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Megan themselves said everything changed

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after the wedding we were getting such

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good headlines and then they turned bad

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bad luck if you're going to put yourself

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out there and you're going to be

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scrutinized you can't complain if the

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scrutiny isn't

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always completely favorable so let's

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look at Celebrities not just Harry and

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Megan but the beckhams and most recently

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JLo also known as Jennifer Lopez I

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believe these are celebrities who have

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opened the door to Netflix because they

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want us to judge them and they wanted us

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to judge them as not only wonderful

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actors footballers and singers but

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brilliant mothers amazing wives

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spectacular clothes horses brilliant

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interior designers they want us to see

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them as all round good eggs that's why

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they let the cameras in incidentally a

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man made a point of order earlier about

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the intrusive nature of the paparazzi

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has it not struck anyone in this

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hallowed audience that on occasion

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celebrities invite the paparazzi to take

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photographs of them so that they will

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appear in the media I do hope that

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people do appreciate that it wasn't

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accidental that Helen mirin happened to

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be photographed looking absolutely

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perfect at the age of 55 in a red bikini

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in an image that you might know

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incidentally if anyone wants the

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background of why Matt hanock happened

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to be captured INF flagrante decto it

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was because he wanted to enlarge his

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already very large Department of Health

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office insisted that they take down a

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petition wall not quite realizing that

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the CCTV

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makes the explanation of why the

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paparazzi Market has actually been

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killed stoned dead there was mention of

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Paparazzi chasing children sir I think

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you'll find and particularly in the case

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of Royal children there hasn't been a

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market for paparazzi photography of

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Royal children since the 1980s largely

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because the Princess of Wales keeps on

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giving us pictures from the royal family

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album yeah sure isn't the bigger issue

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about the point of perfection that

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distracts us Hitler was very loved

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animal the greatest American Martin

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Luther King had a horrible B on his wife

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many times he's a great political figure

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doesn't it distract us from important

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public but again you're missing the

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point about the premise of the motion

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which is about the right to judge we're

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being invited by celebrities to judge

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both their perfection and and this is

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the rub also their imperfection let us

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think of the no makeup selfie ladies and

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gentlemen when we are actively invited

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to judge celebrities at their raw best

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when they've got up in the morning and

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apparently not put on any makeup they're

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inviting us to judge them in this case

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not as glamorous but as downto Earth we

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are perfectly entitled then to form an

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opinion as to the image of somebody who

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doesn't have any makeup on we may

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conclude oh they're naturally beautiful

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what a wonderful thing to do or we may

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safely conclude and we're perfectly

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entitled to judge that it might be an

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idea for them to go and get some

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foundation and possibly apply some

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mascara

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they're inviting us to make these

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judgments how can anybody in this room

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possibly deny that your concep seems

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entirely abute but what happens

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Jud ah now you make an extremely good

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point sir that I'm going to get on to in

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just a moment why is all of the focus

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around this debate on the mainstream

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media which is governed by law and

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regulated by my OPP opponents ipso the

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independent press standards organization

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where does most of the judgy really

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judgy really unpleasant judgment come

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from it comes not from the mainstream

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media but members of the public ladies

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and gentlemen members of the public who

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by the way judge and abuse and publish

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it with complete

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impunity the very reason why I don't

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exercise invective why I don't go beyond

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Fair comment when I'm writing my columns

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is precisely to avoid that kind of toxic

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debate the construct the criticism must

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be constructive the disagreement must be

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agreeable but unfortunately we don't

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live on that in that world in the sewer

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in the cess pit that is social media

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that's why the lines have been blurred

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here tonight ladies and gentlemen this

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isn't a mainstream media problem

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unfortunately it is a celebrity problem

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in that they're giving away far too much

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of their private life lives and it's

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also a social media problem in that

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people feel that they have the right to

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judge and judge unpleasantly without any

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safeguards that's how we've got into

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this chaos of course we have the right

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to judge the private lives of public

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figures but almost certainly we have the

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right to judge it when they themselves

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are inviting us to do

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