Can Premium Fuel REDUCE Engine WEAR?

The Motor Oil Geek
6 Sept 202415:09

Summary

TLDRIn this video, Lake, the Motor Oil Geek, explores the relationship between fuel and engine wear, emphasizing how fuel quality impacts oil performance. Through research from labs like Southwest Research and ACT, it's shown that premium fuels with friction modifiers reduce engine wear compared to basic fuels. The video highlights how fuel additives can improve the chemical interaction between oil, piston rings, and the cylinder wall, significantly lowering wear in engines. Lake also explains how fuel contamination in the piston ring area differs from the oil sump, demonstrating the importance of using high-quality fuel to optimize engine health.

Takeaways

  • 🔧 The brand and quality of fuel can be as important as the brand of motor oil when it comes to reducing engine wear.
  • ⛽ Shell's V-Power Nitro Plus fuel contains additives that form a protective film on metal surfaces, reducing wear and corrosion in the engine's fuel system.
  • 🔍 Research shows that the correct additive package in fuel can lower engine wear, making the choice of fuel a critical factor in engine health.
  • 💡 The oil in the piston ring groove is chemically different from the oil in the sump due to higher temperatures and greater fuel dilution, which makes fuel chemistry even more influential in wear reduction.
  • 🧪 Tests conducted by German research labs and Southwest Research Institute (SWRI) showed that fuels with friction modifiers significantly reduced engine wear compared to fuels without them.
  • 🔬 Engine parts, especially piston rings, experience more wear with basic fuel than with premium fuel containing friction modifiers. This is particularly evident in the ring liner interface.
  • ⚙️ The anti-wear additive ZDDP in the oil can be consumed quickly in high-temperature areas, reducing its effectiveness, making the role of fuel additives even more crucial.
  • 🚗 In Europe, where both premium and basic fuels of the same octane are available, research showed that premium fuel resulted in significantly less engine wear.
  • 📊 The wear difference between engines running on basic and premium fuels was confirmed using multiple measurement methods, including radiation, 3D surface profiling, and used oil analysis.
  • 💥 The quality of fuel has a direct impact on engine wear and oil performance, with premium fuels providing more protection and resulting in better long-term engine health.

Q & A

  • How can fuel impact engine wear?

    -Fuel can impact engine wear through the correct additive package. Properly formulated fuels, like Shell V-Power Nitro Plus, contain friction modifiers and additives that form protective films on metal surfaces, reducing wear and corrosion in the engine.

  • Why is the interaction between fuel and oil important in reducing engine wear?

    -The interaction between fuel and oil is important because the fuel chemistry affects how well the oil performs in protecting the engine. Fuel dilution in the oil, particularly in the piston ring area, alters the oil’s composition and can either reduce or increase engine wear depending on the fuel's additives.

  • What is meant by 'fuel dilution' in the piston ring groove oil?

    -Fuel dilution in the piston ring groove oil refers to the contamination of the oil with fuel, where the oil in this area contains much more fuel than the oil in the sump. This high level of fuel changes the oil's chemical properties, impacting wear and performance.

  • What was the significance of the research done by the German labs and Southwest Research?

    -The research by German labs and Southwest Research demonstrated that fuels with friction modifiers significantly reduced wear in the engine, especially at the piston ring and cylinder wall interface. They used advanced techniques like irradiating piston rings to measure wear and confirmed that fuel additives play a critical role in reducing engine wear.

  • How do friction modifiers in fuel reduce engine wear?

    -Friction modifiers in fuel help reduce engine wear by creating a protective layer on metal surfaces. As the fuel is injected into the engine, these friction modifiers enter the combustion chamber and the ring-liner interface, reducing friction and compensating for the wear that the oil might not be able to prevent under extreme conditions.

  • How does the wear between engines using basic fuel compare to those using premium fuel?

    -Engines using premium fuel with friction modifiers showed significantly less wear compared to those using basic fuel. Research showed a difference of 7.32 microns of wear with basic fuel versus 1.7 microns with premium fuel. Additionally, the used oil analysis confirmed less wear in engines running on premium fuel.

  • Why is the oil in the piston ring groove chemically different from the oil in the sump?

    -The oil in the piston ring groove is chemically different due to higher temperatures and greater fuel dilution in that area. These factors cause the oil in the piston ring groove to degrade faster and function differently than the oil in the sump, which experiences lower temperatures and longer residence times.

  • What role does the ZDDP additive play in engine oil, and why is it consumed rapidly in the ring zone?

    -ZDDP (zinc dialkyldithiophosphate) is an anti-wear and antioxidant additive in engine oil. In the ring zone, the high temperature and pressure cause ZDDP to be consumed rapidly as it works not only as an anti-wear additive but also to counteract oxidation. When it's depleted, the wear rate increases because the primary protection is lost.

  • What impact does fuel quality have on the results of used oil analysis?

    -Fuel quality is a major variable in the results of used oil analysis. Even when using high-quality oil, poor-quality fuel can lead to increased wear and worse performance. Fuel with proper additives helps reduce friction and wear, leading to better oil analysis results.

  • Do all fuels come from the same source, and how do brands differentiate their products?

    -Yes, most fuels come from the same pipeline, but they are differentiated by the additive packages added at the distribution point. These additives, unique to each brand, impact the fuel’s performance, including its ability to reduce engine wear and improve overall engine longevity.

Outlines

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⛽ The Impact of Fuel on Engine Wear

The video opens with a discussion on whether the brand of fuel can be more important than the brand of oil in protecting engine wear. Shell’s V-Power fuel claims to form a protective layer on metal surfaces, reducing wear and corrosion. The speaker explores the relationship between fuel additives and engine wear, citing research from Southwest Research and German labs. Tests using irradiated piston rings show that fuel additives can significantly lower engine wear, contrary to previous beliefs that fuel generally harms engine oil.

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⚙️ The Quality of Fuel Matters

This section emphasizes that not all fuel is created equal. The speaker highlights how using high-quality oil with poor-quality fuel can lead to disappointing results in engine performance. Research from ACT and Southwest Research shows that fuel additives like friction modifiers can reduce wear on piston rings and cylinder liners. The varying quality of fuel between different brands, despite coming from the same pipelines, is attributed to the differences in the additives added at the final stage before distribution.

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🔬 Engine Wear Variability: Fuel and Oil Chemistry

In this segment, the speaker explains that oil in the piston ring zone is chemically different from oil in the sump due to temperature and fuel dilution. Fuel in the ring zone can exceed 10% concentration, influencing engine wear more than the oil in the sump. The research using a specialized engine sampling device reveals that the chemical composition of oil varies significantly based on where it is sampled, particularly in high-wear areas like the ring pack. The fuel’s additive package plays a critical role in reducing wear under these harsh conditions.

🛠️ Friction Modifiers and Premium Fuel Benefits

Here, the speaker delves into the role of friction modifiers in fuel, which help reduce friction at the ring-liner interface, leading to less engine wear. In Europe, fuel is available with and without premium additives, allowing researchers to compare wear differences. Findings reveal that premium fuel with friction modifiers significantly reduces wear, as opposed to basic fuel. The section also touches on how the ZDDP additive in oil, which reduces wear, gets consumed faster in high-temperature environments, but friction modifiers in premium fuel can help mitigate the damage.

🔧 Testing the Difference Between Basic and Premium Fuels

This part of the video discusses a study where two engines were run—one on basic fuel and another on premium fuel. Piston rings were irradiated to measure wear over time. The study found that engines using premium fuel experienced significantly less wear (1.7 microns) compared to those using basic fuel (7.32 microns). Visual wear differences were apparent through 3D surface measurement, confirming that premium fuel with additives is far superior in protecting engine components.

📊 Used Oil Analysis: Validating Fuel Impact

Concluding the video, the speaker shares the results of used oil analysis, which shows how iron levels in oil increase significantly with basic fuel (from 6 to 10 ppm), whereas premium fuel results in lower wear. The speaker stresses that fuel quality directly impacts wear, and while oil brands and viscosity are often discussed, fuel quality is an overlooked factor that contributes to the variations seen in used oil analysis. The claims made by fuel companies like Shell, that their premium fuels reduce engine wear, are scientifically supported.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Fuel Additives

Fuel additives are chemicals added to gasoline to improve performance or reduce wear. In the video, the importance of using fuels with proper additive packages, like friction modifiers, is highlighted as a way to reduce engine wear. These additives create protective films and reduce friction between metal components, which ultimately extends engine life.

💡Friction Modifiers

Friction modifiers are additives used in fuel or oil to reduce friction between moving parts. In the video, they are mentioned as key ingredients in premium fuels that help reduce wear at the piston ring and cylinder wall interface. This reduction in wear is demonstrated through tests comparing basic and premium fuels.

💡Piston Ring

The piston ring is a crucial engine component that seals the combustion chamber, supports heat transfer, and controls oil consumption. The video emphasizes that the piston ring rubbing against the cylinder wall is the number one source of wear in an engine, making the relationship between fuel, oil, and the piston ring critical for engine longevity.

💡Fuel Dilution

Fuel dilution refers to the mixing of fuel with engine oil, often leading to degradation in oil performance. In the video, it is explained that fuel dilution is particularly high in the oil near the piston ring zone, which affects the oil's chemical composition. This highlights how fuel quality directly impacts oil performance and engine wear.

💡Tribology

Tribology is the study of friction, lubrication, and wear between surfaces in motion. The presenter, who works at Total Seal, focuses on tribology to explain how different fuel types and additives can significantly reduce engine wear, particularly at the piston ring and cylinder wall interface, where friction is highest.

💡STLE Conference

The STLE (Society of Tribologists and Lubrication Engineers) conference is an event where industry experts present research on tribology and lubrication. In the video, research from this conference is cited, particularly findings that demonstrate how premium fuels with friction modifiers can lower engine wear. This research backs up claims made in advertisements like those for Shell V-Power fuel.

💡Used Oil Analysis

Used oil analysis involves examining oil samples taken from an engine to measure wear and contamination levels. The video discusses how used oil analysis was employed to measure the wear difference between engines using basic and premium fuels. This method showed significant differences in wear, validating the effectiveness of premium fuel additives.

💡Wear Reduction

Wear reduction refers to minimizing the damage and degradation of engine components over time. The video focuses on how premium fuels with friction modifiers can reduce wear at key engine points, like the piston ring and cylinder wall. This reduction in wear is demonstrated through scientific methods like radiation testing and used oil analysis.

💡Radiation Method (RI)

The radiation method (RI) is a technique used to measure engine wear by irradiating engine parts and then measuring the wear through traces of radiation in the used oil. In the video, this method was used to demonstrate the difference in wear between engines using basic and premium fuels, with premium fuels showing significantly less wear.

💡ZDDP (Zinc Dialkyldithiophosphate)

ZDDP is a chemical compound commonly used in motor oils as an anti-wear and antioxidant additive. In the video, it is explained that ZDDP in the oil is consumed more rapidly in the piston ring zone due to high temperatures, limiting its effectiveness as an anti-wear agent. This explains why friction modifiers in fuel become more important in high-wear areas of the engine.

Highlights

Shell V-Power Nitro+ premium gasoline forms a protective film on metal surfaces, helping to protect metal fuel system components against wear and corrosion.

Fuel choice, particularly the correct additive package, can lower engine wear, as shown by research.

Fuel can impact engine wear despite being a known contaminant for oil, illustrating the complex relationship between fuel and oil.

Research presented at the STLE conference showed that fuels with friction modifiers reduce wear in engines compared to those without.

A test method using radiation to measure wear from piston rings in the engine oil was highlighted, revealing that piston ring friction is the largest source of engine wear.

Oil in the piston ring groove is chemically different from oil in the sump due to higher fuel dilution and temperature in the piston ring area.

Higher fuel dilution in the piston ring groove leads to significantly different oil performance, making fuel chemistry critical in reducing wear.

Used oil samples show variation in wear performance across different oil brands, largely influenced by fuel quality.

Premium fuel with proper friction modifiers showed significantly less wear than basic fuel in various tests, such as radiation methods, surface topography, and used oil analysis.

Fuel with friction modifiers reduced wear from 7.32 microns with basic fuel to 1.7 microns with premium fuel in engine tests.

The ZDDP (zinc dialkyldithiophosphate) additive in oil, responsible for anti-wear properties, depletes faster in high-temperature zones like the piston ring area.

Friction modifiers in fuel act as a backup when ZDDP is depleted, further reducing wear in the piston ring zone.

Engine wear is significantly lower when switching from basic fuel to premium fuel even after the break-in period.

Total iron content in used oil analysis jumped from 6 ppm to 10 ppm with basic fuel, compared to only 7 ppm with premium fuel, highlighting wear differences.

Fuel quality is a major variable in wear analysis, explaining the variation in used oil sample results across different engine brands and types.

Transcripts

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can the brand of your fuel be more

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important than the brand of your oil hi

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I'm Lake the motor oil geek let's dig

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into the research to get the

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answer in the ads for Shell's V power

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fuel they mention wear protection shell

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V power Nitro Plus premium gasoline is

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designed to protect your car's

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performance it also forms a protective

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film on metal surfaces helping to

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protect metal fuel system opponents

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against wear and corrosion wait how can

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the fuel impact engine wear we

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understand things like injector deposits

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and intake valve deposits but where can

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the choice of your fuel actually impact

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the wear in your engine it can and we're

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going to show you the research in this

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video that proves that it can shell just

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didn't make that up they mentioned that

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because the choice of fuel to be precise

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the correct additive package can lower

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engine wear just like they said in that

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shell V power ad that choice of fuel

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that proper additive package does lower

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wear but wait isn't fuel the enemy of

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your oil we've shown that in a previous

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video so how can fuel actually help

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improve engine wear well you see here at

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my day job at total seal we spend a lot

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of time researching and working with

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that relationship between Fuel and oil

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the piston ring and the sinder wall cuz

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they all work together I like to call it

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ring seal soup and that fuel and how it

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interacts with the oil and those parts

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is a key ingredient to that ring seal

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suit so this topic it's near and dear to

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my heart at the stle conference a couple

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of years ago a presentation was done by

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one of the German research Labs so here

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in the US Southwest research swri is one

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of the big research Labs Dr Peter Lee is

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a good friend of mine he runs the

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tribology lab at Southwest research over

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in Europe their equivalent is act and at

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the recent stle conference they

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presented some information showing how

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they measured the wear difference

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between fuels without friction modifiers

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INF fuels with friction modifiers and

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the test method they used to measure

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that wear is super super cool they

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actually used radiation where they could

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take different parts of the engine and

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this one they used a piston ring because

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I'm a piston ring kind of guy you know

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that they used piston rings that they

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irradiated then they could measure in

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the used oil while the engine was

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running they could see the wear from

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those p piston rings fun fact the Piston

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Ring rubbing against the cylinder wall

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is the number one source of wear in your

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engine we've shown that in previous

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videos in the zdp testing we did at

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Southwest research we were able to

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demonstrate that just by changing the

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coating on the Piston Ring we were able

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to reduce wear so that just goes to show

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how important that relationship is

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between the piston ring and the cylinder

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wall the oil and the fuel so no wonder

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the fuel chemistry plays a critical role

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in engine wear now here's the other part

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the oil that's in the Piston Ring Groove

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is chemically different than the oil in

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the sump because of two things the

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temperature and the fuel dilution the

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oil in the Piston Ring Groove is

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chemically different than the oil in

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this sump there's tons more fuel in the

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piston ing Groove oil than there is in

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the sunm so sometimes when we see a used

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oil sample that may have 1% or 3% fuel

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in the oil in the Piston Ring Groove

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it's going to be over 10% it can be 20%

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it can be even greater than that so

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what's happening in the Piston Ring

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Groove and against that cylinder wall is

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different than everywhere else in the

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engine because of that fuel dilution the

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contamination of the fuel therefore

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what's in in the fuel makes a bigger

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difference to the performance of the oil

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essentially that fuel can lower wear if

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it's formulated properly how freaking

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cool is that actually this explains a

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lot of the variation that we see doing

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used oil analysis cuz every day I'm

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looking at used oil samples and I can

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tell you for a fact we see good and bad

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results with every brand of oil it

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doesn't matter what the brand is we see

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good ones and we see bad ones for all of

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them why one of the variables is the

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quality of the fuel if you're using a

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high quality oil with a high quality

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fuel you're probably going to get really

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good results but you can be using a high

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quality oil with a poor quality Fuel and

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get not so great results and we can see

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this from the data that not only the ACT

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presented at that conference the guys at

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Southwest research Dr Peter Lee my

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friend and his group has also presented

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independent information that shows the

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exact same thing that when you put

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friction modifiers and different

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chemistries that can affect ringing

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liner wear in the fuel you can reduce

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wear how cool is that okay let's go

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ahead and get into some of those details

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because this stuff is wicked cool

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chemistry but wait doesn't all fuel come

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from the same pipeline regardless of

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brand that is true all fuel coming

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through the pipeline is the same in fact

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your 87 octane gasoline is only 83

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octane gasoline in the pipeline both the

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ethanol and the additives that are in

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the fuel are actually added in the tank

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that delivers the fuel to the gas

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station but those additives are

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different from Brand to Brand so first

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things first how do they even know that

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the oil in the ring zone is different

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than the oil in the sump well they

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outfitted an engine with a little device

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that could sample oil while the engine

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runs from the back of the oil ring isn't

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that crazy they actually developed this

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where they could pull those samples

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directly from the piston and the

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cylinder wall to compare what that oil

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was like chemically in those areas of

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the engine versus the sump Incredible

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use of used oil analysis but from an

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engine while it's running just by

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sampling it in different areas so they

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were able to see that in that ring pack

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you have much higher temperatures and

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much smaller volumes so that the thermal

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effects and the fuel dilution effects

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are much greater in that area compared

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to the sump where that's a lower

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temperature and there's a real large

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volume of oil in that resonance time

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that oil stays down there a lot longer

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so it's really different what's going on

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with that oil in the ring pack versus

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the sump and that sampling method

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allowed them to see it and what they

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found was massive differences in the oil

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from the sump versus what was in the

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ring Zone and the harder they ran the

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engine the more fuel you put in the

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engine the more it changed so there was

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a great variation in what was happening

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with the chemistry of the oil based on

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the operating conditions of the engine

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as well so the fuel itself made an

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impact on the performance of the oil and

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the amount of fuel also made an impact

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so there's two big variables going on

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the fuel itself and how much fuel is

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being consumed is impacting the oil

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that's also called the oil to fuel ratio

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we're going to mention that when we do

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the video about oil life indicators

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because this is a big part of that all

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right now back to the results and what

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they saw was every time they added a

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friction modifier to the fuel they saw a

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reduction in friction at the ring liner

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interface which correlates with the

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other published literature and the

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results shown by act speaking of them

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let's get back to their engine in Europe

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they have both premium fuel and regular

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fuel in the same octane so here in the

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US we're used to having 87 89 and maybe

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91 or 93 octane gasoline where as the

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quality varies so does the octane but in

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Europe they have the same octane fuel

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with and without the premium additive

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package in the fuel so this actually

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makes for a much better comparison of

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the results and that's what the guy act

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saw that the basic fuel had more wear

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than the premium fuel and they were able

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to understand what was going on

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chemically by looking at that used oil

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and what they found was that the zddp

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the zinc dialco theop phosphate which is

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an antiwar additive in the oil actually

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gets consumed rapidly because it's also

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functioning as an anti

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antioxidant not just an anti-war

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additive so what happens when the zdp

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gets consumed in that ring Zone because

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of that high temperature it's no longer

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able to function as an anti-wear

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additive therefore the wear can increase

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because your primary antiwar additive is

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no longer able to function as an antiwar

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additive in that particular area and

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this is the window of opportunity for

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that friction modifier coming in fresh

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with every intake stroke right every

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time that injector fires and puts a

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little bit of fresh fuel in there here's

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that chance for that fresh friction

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modifier to come in and actually save

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the day to help make up for what the oil

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can't do because of that rough

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environment in the ring Zone I mean how

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cool is that obviously my day jump I

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work for total steal piston ring so I

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love tribology I love piston rings and

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how cool is that to see that in this

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little area of the engine it is intense

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there's crazy heat there's crazy fuel

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dilution all this stuff's going on it's

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like the pressure cooker of the whole

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engine and it's really taxing the

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tribology and making all this stuff work

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I me okay all right I'm

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going Cal calm down a little bit get too

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excited about this cuz this is just

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really really neat stuff and it explains

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so much so they took two in and they

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irradiated the piston rings in both

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engines they ran one engine on the

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premium fuel the other engine on the

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basic Fuel and at the end they were able

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to measure all the wear results not only

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from the piston rings rubbing but also

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in the used oil after the 120 hour test

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and these results are incredible

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remember we have three ways we're

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looking at the wear from both the engine

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run on basic fuel compared compared to

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the engine run on the premium fuel with

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the friction modifiers looking at where

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via the radiation method r i we're also

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going to look at where using a 3D

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profometer to measure the surfaces and

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we're going to look at used oil analysis

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so the first thing is the RC that

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radiation method and it's a giant

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difference we're looking at

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7.32 microns of wear with the basic fuel

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compared to

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1.7 microns with the premium fuel and

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just to be fair after running the engine

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with the basic fuel that same engine was

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run again with the premium fuel and it

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yielded even less wear which makes sense

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a little bit because of the break-in but

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also shows that that difference between

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the premium fuel and the basic fuel is

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real that was also validated when we

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went and looked at the surface

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topography when you look at that 3D wear

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measurement yeah you don't even need a

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tool to measure that you can see with

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your own eyes how much pitting and wear

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occurred with the basic fuel compared to

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the premium fuel big difference in

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measured wear between that basic Fuel

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and premium fuel and the used oil

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analysis confirms all of it we look at

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the total amount of wear over time we

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see that the from the Zero Hour sample

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to the end of test sample the iron

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jumped from six parts per million all

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the way

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to10 with the basic fuel compared to

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only 70 parts per million with the

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premium fuel huge difference between the

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basic Fuel and the premium fuel showing

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that in that ring liner contact with all

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the fuel dilution with all the Heat and

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pressures that additional friction

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modifier

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in the premium fuel makes a giant

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difference in terms of wear if you want

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a more indepth video on fuel leave a

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comment below and let me know this is

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why we see such a variation in wear with

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used oil analysis if you're looking at

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Brands only because people will tell you

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what the brand of the oil is they'll

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tell you what the viscosity of the oil

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is but no one tells us what fuel they're

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using but now we know that fuel quality

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is one of those variables that leads to

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the variation we see in used oil

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analysis results so that premium fuel

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isn't just higher octane it's that

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