Industry and Insights Dave Schippers Doctoral
Summary
TLDRThe transcript discusses the differences between master's and doctoral degrees, emphasizing the doctoral degree's requirement of original research through a dissertation. It highlights the importance of choosing a topic early in the program and the benefits of having real-world experienced faculty. The conversation also touches on the flexibility of Walsh's doctoral programs, the potential for fast-tracking, and the support for students to successfully complete their degrees while balancing other commitments.
Takeaways
- 🎓 A doctoral degree is an advanced qualification that differs from a master's by requiring the completion of a dissertation, demonstrating the ability to conduct peer-reviewed research.
- 🏫 The right schools and mentors can make earning a doctoral degree less intimidating and more accessible.
- 🔍 A master's degree typically builds expertise in a specific subject, while a doctoral degree is prized for its research component and is suited for those aiming to teach at the higher education level or work in specialized fields.
- 💼 Doctoral degrees can open career paths in consulting, academia, and research, where problem-solving and logical reasoning are highly valued.
- 📈 The dissertation process involves identifying a problem, conducting research, and presenting a solution in a structured format.
- 🤖 Generative AI can assist in the doctoral research process by identifying gaps in existing research, potentially saving time and effort.
- 📚 The time commitment for a doctoral degree varies, but a consistent daily effort can lead to completion within 2 years or less.
- 🛠️ Project planning and setting clear timelines are crucial for managing the dissertation process and ensuring timely completion.
- 🌟 Walsh College's doctoral programs emphasize applied research, real-world impact, and flexibility for working professionals.
- 🏆 Walsh College's doctoral programs, including DBA and upcoming Organizational Leadership PhD and Tech PhD, are designed for quality and student success.
- 🔄 Students considering a transfer or looking for a more flexible and applied approach to their doctoral education can find a supportive environment at Walsh College.
Q & A
What is the primary difference between a master's degree and a doctoral degree?
-A master's degree is an advanced degree that focuses on equipping you with in-depth knowledge in a particular subject matter, often at a faster pace than a bachelor's degree. In contrast, a doctoral degree is a higher level of education that requires you to complete a dissertation, demonstrating your ability to conduct peer-reviewed research and contribute new knowledge to your field.
What are some reasons one might pursue a doctoral degree?
-Individuals may pursue a doctoral degree for various reasons, including the desire to teach at the higher education level, to work in contracting or the federal government where a doctoral degree is often preferred, or to establish themselves as experts or consultants in their field.
What is the significance of the dissertation in a doctoral degree?
-The dissertation is a critical component of a doctoral degree as it serves as a marker of the student's ability to conduct original research. It requires the student to identify a problem, propose a solution, and defend their findings through a rigorous peer-review process.
How does the career outcome for someone with a doctoral degree differ from that of someone with a master's degree?
-While both degrees offer career advancements, a doctoral degree often leads to roles that require deeper expertise and research capabilities, such as academia, high-level consulting, or leadership positions within the federal government or in the private sector where innovative problem-solving is paramount.
What are some common challenges faced by doctoral students during the dissertation process?
-Doctoral students often face challenges such as identifying a viable research topic, navigating the complexities of academic writing, managing the time commitment required for research, and dealing with the pressure of producing a work that contributes meaningfully to their field.
How does Walsh College approach the doctoral program differently from other institutions?
-Walsh College emphasizes applied research and practical application of theoretical knowledge. The faculty, who have real-world experience, guide students through the dissertation process with a focus on solving real-world problems and making an impact in their field.
What is the typical time frame for completing a doctoral degree at Walsh College?
-The time frame for completing a doctoral degree at Walsh College can vary depending on the student's commitment and the specific program. However, it's possible to complete a doctoral degree within two years, especially with a disciplined approach to coursework and dissertation work.
How does Walsh College support students in choosing their dissertation topic?
-Walsh College encourages students to identify their research interests early in the program and provides guidance on identifying gaps in the research or areas where their expertise can contribute. The college also integrates the use of generative AI to help students identify potential research topics and gaps in the literature.
What are some examples of dissertation topics that students at Walsh College have pursued?
-Examples include researching why financial institutions collapse despite legislative safeguards, examining leadership styles and emotional intelligence, and exploring how neurodivergent individuals operate in certain environments.
Can a student with a background in one field, such as marketing, pursue a doctoral degree in a different field like finance?
-Yes, a student can venture into a different field for their doctoral studies, provided they have the necessary groundwork and are willing to build upon their existing knowledge through additional coursework and research in the new field.
How does Walsh College's approach to the doctoral program benefit working professionals?
-Walsh College offers doctoral courses in the evenings and residencies on weekends, allowing working professionals to fit their education around their work schedule. This approach ensures that students can continue their careers while advancing their education.
Outlines
🎓 Understanding Doctoral Degrees
This paragraph discusses the intimidation and misconceptions surrounding doctoral degrees. It explains the difference between a master's and a doctoral degree, emphasizing that a doctoral degree is not for everyone and should align with one's career path. The conversation highlights the value of a doctoral degree in higher education and specific industries, and the challenges of the dissertation process, which requires peer-reviewed research and clear communication across multiple groups.
📚 The Dissertation Process
The speaker delves into the dissertation process, addressing common misconceptions and providing insight into the actual experience. The paragraph outlines the importance of identifying a research problem and purpose, and the role of generative AI in streamlining the research process. It also touches on the structure of the dissertation, the challenges of writing the first chapter, and the importance of focusing on a specific problem without trying to 'boil the ocean'.
🤔 Navigating Research and Dissertation Topics
This section explores the variety of research topics and problems that doctoral students might tackle, emphasizing the importance of choosing a focused and manageable subject. The speaker shares examples of current research interests, such as financial institution collapses and leadership styles, and discusses the process of narrowing down a topic. The paragraph also addresses the flexibility of transitioning from one field to another for doctoral research.
🕒 Time Commitment and Planning for Doctoral Studies
The speaker shares personal experiences and advice on the time commitment required for doctoral studies, highlighting the importance of daily dedication and effective planning. The paragraph discusses the impact of doctoral work on family life, the benefits of consistent work habits, and the challenges of writer's block and data assimilation. It also provides a realistic view of the weekly time investment needed and the importance of project planning for the dissertation phase.
🏫 Transferring Credits and the Flexibility of Walsh's Doctoral Programs
This paragraph addresses the process of transferring credits and the flexibility offered by Walsh's doctoral programs. The speaker explains how the institution assesses coursework and learning outcomes from previous studies to grant advanced standing. The paragraph also discusses the benefits of fast-tracking from a master's to a doctoral degree and the support provided for students who may be unhappy with their current doctoral program.
🌟 The Walsh Difference in Doctoral Education
The speaker elaborates on the unique aspects of Walsh's doctoral programs, emphasizing the real-world experience of faculty and the institution's focus on applied research. The paragraph discusses the advantage of learning from experts who are still active in their fields and the institution's commitment to practical education. It also touches on the expansion of doctoral programs at Walsh and the institution's adaptability to various learning styles and career paths.
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Keywords
💡Doctoral Degree
💡Master's Degree
💡Dissertation
💡Career Path
💡Walsh College
💡Generative AI
💡Research Gaps
💡Project Planning
💡Transfer Credits
💡Applied Research
Highlights
Doctoral degrees can be intimidating but don't have to be, especially with the right education and guidance.
A master's degree skills you up on a particular subject, typically at a faster pace than a bachelor's degree.
A doctoral degree is prized for its comprehensive examination and dissertation, marking the ability to complete peer-reviewed research.
Doctoral degrees are less common, with only about 6-10% of the population achieving one.
The dissertation process is challenging and requires conveying ideas clearly across multiple groups.
Career paths for doctoral degree holders often include higher education teaching, contracting, and federal government work.
Consulting is a common career outcome for those with doctoral degrees, emphasizing bulletproof problem-solving skills.
The primary function of a doctoral degree is to complete a dissertation, which is a marker of the ability to conduct peer-reviewed research.
Generative AI can help identify research gaps and potentially shorten the dissertation process by at least three months.
The dissertation process involves a five-chapter model, with chapter one being the most challenging for many.
Doctoral research can span various methods such as case studies, interviews, surveys, non-experimental, and experimental approaches.
It's important not to 'boil the ocean' in a dissertation, meaning keep the focus narrow and specific, rather than trying to solve every problem.
Examples of doctoral research problems include financial institution collapses despite legislation, leadership styles, and neurodiverse individuals' performance.
Doctoral students can venture into different fields from their original degree, depending on their interests and prior coursework.
A realistic weekly commitment for a doctoral degree might range from 7 to 15 hours, depending on the individual's learning style and assimilation speed.
Project planning is crucial in the doctoral degree process, setting clear deadlines and deliverables to keep on track.
Walsh College is designed for flexibility, allowing students to fit education into their lives with evening and weekend classes.
Walsh College values applied research over pure theoretical work, focusing on real-world problem-solving and impact.
Walsh College's faculty have real-world experience and are industry leaders, providing hands-on expertise to students.
Walsh College is expanding its doctoral programs, including an organizational leadership PhD and a tech PhD.
Walsh College offers fast-tracking options from bachelor's to master's and then to doctoral degrees, saving time and courses.
Transcripts
three doctoral degrees can seem
intimidating on the surface we hear
about it a lot you want to go back to
school to be a doctor you want to do get
your doctor in business you want to be a
doctor in in any capacity and it sounds
intimidating but it doesn't have to uh
especially when you go and you go to the
right schools and you are getting your
education from the right people so today
I'm sitting down with Dr Skippers and
we're going to talk a little bit about
what does the doctoral mean what makes
it different from a master's degree and
then we're going to talk about how Walsh
is doing it differently so first thing I
want to do is let's talk about what is
the difference between a master's degree
and a doctoral degree yeah that's always
a good question and I think some people
get confused on on what what's en what
is encompassed in both to put it rather
simply I'll say a master's degree is an
advanced degree that in essence skills
you up on a particular subject matter
and it usually goes at a much faster
Pace than per se a bachelor's degree so
typically would say if you want to say
hey I'm really smart and I've you know
I've got this really good knowledge in
this particular subject matter a
master's degree is the way to do that so
if that's really what you're looking to
do to Hallmark you know some of the
reasons to get like a masters is like
MBA um you know it has very specific
connotations in business um if you're
going to get a technical degree it is
because that is beneficial within your
career path um now bringing up career
path a doctoral degree has to make sense
for your career path right so I you know
I can't sit down and say this is always
going to be the right answer and this is
why for everybody what I would say is
there can be many different reasons for
that right so if you want to I will say
one um if you want a Gateway into being
able to teach in in higher ed um a
doctoral degree is a good way to do that
right that is one way um there are other
benefits to that as well um if you have
connections as far as Contracting or
working in the federal government they
very much typically a doctoral degree um
now why do they do that so one of the
reasons a doctoral degree is prized um
by specific groups or specific entities
is it is I want to be careful it does
have um some of those components of the
Master's Degree like you have to learn
subject matter you have to prove you're
competent in it there's actually
typically a comprehensive exam that
proves that you are competent within it
the primary function of it is to
complete the dissertation now that
dissertation is a marker that you can
complete peer-reviewed research all
right so that is the primary difference
between a master's degree and a doctoral
degree and when you look at the context
I you know from a percentage wise I
honestly don't remember the percentage
of folks that have master's degrees it's
very common it's much more prevalent
typically you're looking at around you
know somewhere between 6 and 10% of the
population end up with a doctoral degree
so it is difficult it is not easy the
part that is I'll say I think
problematic for most people is that in
that dissertation um you have to write
and you have to convey ideas that in
essence carry the same meaning across
multiple groups all right so that's the
peer review piece so making sure you
explain it and get it right is the very
difficult part what what career path do
people tend to take when they're getting
a doctoral degree because you know
you're you're talking about how on a
master's on a master side that's the one
you're proving that you have the
intelligence to do it and a doctoral is
great it's not for everybody but what
what is that next step because if you're
in if you're in the world of of business
there's a lot of people that have a
master's degree and that's wonderful
sure but like a lot of times people have
doctoral are like yeah but now I'm out
doing my own thing and right and it and
it's viewed as more of a of a Consulting
thing so what is the career outcome and
career opportunities like for somebody
that gets their doctoral degree well I
think what you brought up with the with
the Consulting is a is a great Point
there's a lot of people if you're
running your own um business and you
want to Hallmark yourself as an
exceptional leader especially within a
specific space um Consultants often
obtain those now and here's why I like
to use the phrase we're going to go
through logic and we're going to go
through I like to use the phrase
bulletproof problem solving so it's you
have to be able to go in identify I'll
say logic errors in in most people's
thinking and then try to assess the
situation and find the root cause once
you find that root cause then you're
going to try to so what's the real
problem that you're trying to deal with
and you're trying to fix okay not I
think it is I I have to actually go
through and we we teach you here's the
Frameworks and all the types of things
to do that effectively but then it is to
go in logically and say what is the
problem and then how do I build ways to
test Solutions and make sure that they
actually will have impact all right so
in essence and I'll say part of the
reason I can I feel confident in saying
that to be frank is that most
dissertations all right are wrapped
around a problem and a purpose statement
so what is the problem you're trying to
resolve and what purpose or outcome do
you hope to gain does that make sense it
does it does so so I want to dive into
the dissertation process because I think
that that's something that we hear a lot
and you hear say people say all the time
like oh yeah I did my dissertation on
that thing but what does that mean I so
so let's say that I'm somebody sitting
here that's considering a doctoral thing
a doctoral degree and and in that
process I have to hear about okay you're
going to do a little bit of the
classwork stuff and then you're going to
dive into your dissertation because of
what the movies have told me a
dissertation is that's terrifying so
tell me what what is a dissertation how
do you come up with what that topic is
and then what does that process look
like to take that through
completion okay so most people don't
know it what happens is as we put you in
a hallway you have to run down that
hallway well other phds throw stuff at
you that's it feels like that's the way
the movies make it out oh my God you
know it's I think there's a Far Side
comment I'm probably comic where it has
like it's a dissertation committee and
they're standing there with like clubs
and you got to try to run through um so
that is kind of the public perception of
that which is absolutely not the case um
so I'll say it starts off with like for
instance I'm teaching the intro um
dct700 or intro course into the doctoral
program um we start at that stage like
what are what are you interested in
researching so one um you know in asence
what problems do you hope to try to
resolve and and bring some closure or
help with or try to provide solutions to
it seems early in the program I'll say
but I've seen people you know get into
the program and when they hit their
dissertation they're still trying to
figure out what they want to research
you don't want to be there because then
you're burning you're burning clock and
it's costing you money so you don't want
to do that um now I will say one of the
things that we've just started to
integrate so I'll say I know there's a
lot of I'll use the phrase controversial
opinions on generative AI in research
okay and I got it um I will no holds bar
tell you this if I had generative AI
when I did mine okay I would have shaved
at least three months off my
dissertation process and and that's not
cheating that's the number one problem
most people have when they get into a
doctoral program is they're not
typically quite they know roughly like
here's the subject matter I want to
research but here's one of the big
issues where are the gaps okay so where
is their missing research or where are
there disagreements in research meaning
gaps okay or potential
problems most of the time like for me I
had to spent about six months trying to
figure out are those gaps really where I
believe they are and I have to try to
justify that with literature right so I
have to go through because you have to
site your work you have to be able to
prove that what you're saying is
actually true and all of these things so
generative AI can do things like in this
particular research area what are the
most common gaps that are currently
exist now it's not going to tell you how
to solve those it's not going to tell
you what methodology to use but it's
going to say within this particular area
here's the top 10 gaps right now you can
use those as a student to go I just
shaved off I just saved time trying to
find a potential subject to to work on
now from there you still have to dig in
you got to do the work you got to fast
fact check it do all of those things but
that is one of the ways I'll say that we
are saying hey you can use this in a
positive way that doesn't compromise
scientific standards in order to make
sure you get this thing done at a faster
Pace okay okay so okay so talk to me
about then what does that research phase
look like and are we talking about going
out and we're interviewing hundreds of
people or are we talking about diving
through databases and in case studies to
Define what we're looking for it could
be any or all so I'll say I kind of got
off on my um on my generative AI stance
there so let's talk about the
dissertation process so we use a five
chapter model so typically I would argue
I think the hardest chapter for most
people to write is chapter one and
here's the problem with the dissertation
you've never done it before it's
literally like I would argue it's like
remember in say well some of us are old
so it might be harder for us to remember
but think back to when you were doing
something brand new like I'm riding a
bike you don't when you're a kid you
don't know how to do that it's hard
right and you get frustrated easy um
normally our parents are there to help
you know help you along they put your
training wheels on and all this other
stuff um dissertation process is a bit
like that right so your committee
members your committee chair they're
there they're kind of the training
wheels to get you started and get you
moving um that chapter one is difficult
because that is where you're going to
outline like one uh we I like to say
this was said to me when I did my
dissertation is you're on a journey take
everybody with you and make it
interesting yeah okay so you can write
in a I'll say you know I tend to write
in a technical format so some people are
like oh it comes off a little boring at
times but when you write chapter one you
one of the first things you have to do
is like why does anybody care about this
why do I even care that you're doing
this so you have to kind of set that
tone then you get into here's the type
of study that I you know here's the
problems I'm trying to address here's
the purpose of the research and here is
the methodology and Frameworks that I'm
going to use so for instance am I going
to do a case study am I going to do
interviews am I going to do surveys um
am I going to do um non-experimental am
I going to do experimental there's a lot
I mean we can spend hours here talking
about all the different models we're not
we don't have to do that but the short
version is that is up to the individual
doing the dissertation now I will say as
you go through classes here we will give
you Pro tips like yeah don't do that or
don't do that one um or like I often say
I know a lot of St if any of our
students are watching this they be like
yeah Skipper says that a lot um don't do
mixed methods um I say don't do mixed
methods because now some still want to
do mixed methods and depending on how
you do it it's acceptable one of the
problems is and this is a common phrase
with dissertations don't try to boil the
ocean you know don't do too much you
have to keep it very small and very
focused um and don't try to win a Nobel
Peace Prize right that's not that's not
the purpose of your dissertation do you
know what the best dissertation is I
don't I was just G the finished
one I because I was because I was going
to ask you you know what are what are
the different what are the different
types of of problems and so I guess the
first question is is are they solving
one problem is that the dissertation
thing is they like they're after one
problem it should be one yeah okay and
and what are some examples of types of
questions and problems that they're
trying to solve um do you want to hear
some of what I'm hearing now from our
sure so like one um I actually just
literally today I just read um and did
review on problem purpose statement
submission for a particular student I'll
say if they're watching they they'll
know I I'm talking about them but we
won't name them um so they're interested
in looking at um why uh I'll say
financial institutions like banks are
still collapsing when there's
legislation that puts markers out there
for us to identify when it's going to
happen so that's a problem right so that
is a genuine problem that we are seeing
societally especially within the United
States where we have you know different
banks are now we have legislation that
says well if these things are happening
we should throw red flags and then there
needs to be a response and that prevents
the collapse right um still not stopping
so what's happening there so that's one
um you know I'll say I know there's
others um I had I'll say last week in
the class there's people interested in
okay one leadership styles in emotional
intelligence in certain environments how
is that would that operate better um
I'll say I'm paraphrasing a lot there so
it's at a very high level but they're
early on um I have some folks looking at
hey um how do neurode Divergent
individuals operate um in certain
environments better than others so we
actually got into a conversation like
okay neurod Divergent um I said well one
um based off the descriptions that
you're giving I said if you want to do
if you you want to do interviews and you
want to talk to individuals that are
earmarked as they're doing really good
and are neurode Divergent I said I would
look at look into it and incident
response I said I would dare say you're
going to see this criteria is going to
be semi commmon and then you would be
able to get some good information if
you're going to do a case study or
interview process as far as your your
method so that's the kind of stuff we
get into does that does that make sense
yeah no it's really interesting too
because I you know I think the other
piece of that you know outside of the
perception of it being terrifying um cuz
there's that there's the other side too
where you go but this gives me the
opportunity to find the answer to
something that I am so interested in so
I guess the next part of that question
is is there limitation so if I come in
and let's say you know I have a degree
in marketing but I come in and I'm like
but the thing that is so fascinating to
me is happening in the world of Finance
am I limited to saying no you have to
stay in your in your lane or can I go
and Venture into that world of Finance
it depends you can you can Venture
depending upon you know where you're at
and what what you know past cour work
you've done within typically within
marketing you may have had different um
you know different types of courses if
you've got the groundwork for that um
you know I'll say sliding into our DBA
is going to be a natural connection um
and then you would get additional
Finance there and then of course as you
go through coursework um and those
Finance classes and then as you start to
look at your dissertation phase my
general recommendation is even as you're
taking classes is I did this when I went
through was I continued you know it was
the the homework outside of the class
which was I'm getting ready for
dissertation I know I've got to start
reading more and more literature on the
subject and make sure I'm very versed on
it right so so so talk to me about the
the doctoral degree as a whole and what
that looks like in a process so you so
what's our what's our general time frame
uh both you know in a time commitment by
week and then also how long it's going
to take to actually achieve that
doctoral degree yeah I'll say I'll tell
you what I should have done um and then
what I ended up learning to do so right
out of the gates I would say um you know
it depends on the degree it depends on
where you're at um and it also depends
on what standing you get when you come
in so um if you come in with Advan
standing I'll say personally for mine I
finished within basically two years okay
now some people are like whoa Skippers
that's insane how did you do that um I I
knew I'll say again I'm going to Snicker
so my I'll use the phrase uh my cohort
buddy um he Lea frogged me and finished
at least one semester before me which I
was like you know congrats dude but darn
it um you know what I mean so um but the
short and I've also seen people take 15
years all right I I don't recommend the
15-year plan that's not really a that's
not really you know viable now what I
would say is weekly commitment I would
say I'm the type of person that does
better in committing I'm going to spend
x amount time x amount of time each day
so I would commit that time and say I'm
going to spend um I can tell you most of
my dissertation and most of my
coursework was completed between 300 and
5:00 a.m. okay okay so I was an early
riser that was the way I operated some
people are late people they work better
at night because that's their bio rhythm
um you know choose what works best for
you um part of the reason I did 3:00 to
5 a.m. the family's sleeping so it has
more of an minimal impact I would say on
them in our relationships and things I
would say if you're going to do a
doctorate degree it will impact you in
your family cuz it is a Time sync um I'm
not going to deny that um they are part
of it so you have to realize that
they're going to miss you um on some of
the you know G togethers and commitments
and all of those things um you know do
you exit all of them no that's up to you
but I think if you do a consistent Daily
Commitment like I'm going to spend an
hour every day um and you're and you get
regimented that's a lot easier to deal
with all right now I've seen some people
go well I'm going to do all my homework
on the weekends well if you do that then
you're going to commit all of your
weekend
do want
SCE now will say the daily with an hour
or two or whatever works for you and
carrying that into dissertation was
super helpful because now um you know
you can get into things like writers
block and all these other things but
when you train your body and your head
that okay this is when I'm sitting down
and I'm doing the heavy lifting you wake
up in go time yeah and it's go time yeah
so um does that kind of make sense yeah
for sure so so you think that a a
realistic commitment to plan for is do
you think that 7 hours a week or are we
looking more on that you know 10 to 15
hours a week it's it's tough it depends
on the individual okay and and how how
much I mean not to you know not it all
depends on how fast you assimilate data
and how you know the other piece is I
would say it's not only how fast but do
you know how you learn best right if you
know how you learn best you can have a
lower amount of time if you tend to
struggle and you don't know yet how you
learn best you're going to have to
figure that out in the process does that
make sense yeah for sure um and then
there's different learning you know
things that can that can happen along
the way um I'll tell you there there was
definitely times where I got frustrated
and it slowed me down I'm sure it
happens to all of us at every point no
matter I would imagine at some point
you've you've picked your topic you've
said this is I'm going all in on this
thing and you're going to hit a
roadblock where you go I'm out of data
and I don't know how to prove that next
thing and that's where that's where
somebody that is in your cohort or your
mentors or those can can step in and say
okay here's let's get you past this and
let's get you into that next thing but
you have to build in the time to be able
to do that absolutely so one of the
things I recommend um especially when we
get to dissertation phase project plan
MH I know a lot of people are like oh my
God it's red tape it's like no project
PL set dates we build um we build our
dissertation process
around the concept of project plans so
we will sit down and say okay you should
be able to write this chapter in this
amount of time um now you got to sit
down and go here's my weekly
deliverables and here's how I'm going to
meet those weekly deliverables so I I
like to use the phrase you know we
demystify that dissertation process
there's some out there you know and not
to you know we're not going to name
names we'll just say you know there's
there's some situations out there where
they're like yeah have fun um and you
literally go from and part of the reason
dissertations get weird
and I think weird is probably the best
word for probably is the best word yeah
it gets weird because you go from even
at the beginning of your doctoral
program you come in you're taking
coursework you got homework you're
delivering that the the professors
saying here's your timetable here's your
project plan you got to meet these
deadlines all the stuff and you
literally Go from it's very prescribed
and here's the date you got to meet
to have fun bro right on you and so now
it's all you um and and now uh it
depends on the um on your dissertation
chair and the committee like I said we
have a structure we have it set up we
have I'll call them loose plans um
because I think the plans that we have
built they do say here's here's if you
want to do this within this semester you
got to deliver these sections from this
chapter by these dates it'll Auto Kil it
for you okay we have that set up now I
would recommend carrying that down to a
little bit more granular level um just
because that's the kind of planner that
I am um and then go from there but that
in my opinion um reduces a lot of the
I I think if you don't understand what
you have to do um then you got to figure
out what you got to do as well as do it
and that kind of makes it more difficult
um well it's I mean it it's almost in to
use a very generic uh metaphor for this
but it's very similar to when you're
going to the gym if I have to go and
think about the workouts I have to do
and I have to plan all that for my I'm
probably not going to do it because
that's I got to spend so much effort
trying to figure out what I'm going to
do that when I get there to actually do
it it's not it's not going to be fun to
do so to your point plan that all ahead
of time so when it comes to your
doctoral stuff like get your project
planning done this is what I'm going to
do this is when I'm going to do it this
is when it has to be done by I don't
have to think about that anymore now
when I sit down to work I can just work
I don't have to sit down to think about
what I'm going to work on you know you
you mentioned um you mentioned some
other schools and some different ways
that programs are are set up I've heard
I've heard some interesting stories
recently about uh about some students
who have come to Walsh or transferred
into Walsh in the middle of their
doctoral yeah and in what that process
was looking like so talk to me about
what does why would something like that
happen and why is Walsh so prepared to
bring those students in in in not have
to start all the way
over yeah so I'll say there's a couple
other couple of things to unpack there
so one I think a lot of it has to do
with how is the program set up and how
willing are they to accept transfer
credit okay um a doctoral degree is a
pretty big investment all right I'm I'm
not going to going to lie like my
doctorate was was 50k mhm okay that
that's not cheap right um so you have to
have really good reasons why you choose
it um now what I will say is and mind
you I started my doctorate before I was
here at Walsh so you know I got it from
somewhere else so take it for what is
but um they actually did a decent job of
trying to give me advanced standing so I
will say that we try to do that as much
as we can here I'll say and the reason
there's there's multiple reasons for
that so one um if you genuinely done
coursework with same learning outcomes
and you're prepared in that particular
area I I don't I don't want to make you
take another class again I mean there's
no point in me doing that because then
in my opinion that makes our institution
look bad because now it looks like we're
just trying to soak you for cash I'm
more about let's make sure you are
getting you are meeting the learning
outcomes that you need to be successful
if you've already met those um whether
they're you know let's say you had a
really great master's program and we
take a look at it and go okay we can
wave a couple classes based off that and
you've gotten out of that for learning
outcomes we're going to try to do that
that that's the nature of how we operate
now let's say let's go to the example
where you said like hey somebody was at
a different they were at a different
institution they weren't super happy um
now that I'll say in having spoke to
this individual as well I'll just simply
say I've heard things like oh you know
when they were talking with professors
professors were saying well you're
there's no way you can finish your your
dissertation in less than two years I'm
here to tell you that's bunk okay it's
bunk I the my cohort mate that I talked
about he finished in six
months okay that is some time management
six months now well he's 20 years my
junior so I'm going to try to use that
as an I'm not going to excuse that he he
was a machine he got it done okay he
also had a super supportive chair in
committee that's important in the
process I got done well within a year
okay so I was cooking as well I've had
people say don't Dave don't tell people
how fast you went wait it's common I to
you right now if you go out and you
connect with a dissertation coach that
does this professionally on a regular
basis those individuals will tell you if
you are committed 9 and 12 months no
more here's the other problem in today's
environment we have generative AI right
if you take three years to do your
dissertation is it even going to be
valid data anymore yeah let's start
thinking about that for a second well
and especially when you talk about
things like AI because I mean a year and
a half ago it basically didn't exist in
the consumer eye look at what's
happening now so now and we got a tech
PhD coming out too so I mean it's like
wait a minute you can't we can't run
dissertations where we're expected to
take two years it won't even be valid
anymore um that that just doesn't work
now it'd be we'd be doing a disservice
to that student to the service to the
industry um to the knowledge base um you
know here's the I'll say Let me let me
let let you in on the what I I call the
dirty little
secrets okay it's not that dirty but it
is kind of a secret um in in well I
guess maybe it's not that but you got to
look for it there's actually articles
out there that have been written about
how the dissertation and doctoral
process creates
PTSD uh it it's tough it challenges you
have I will say a doctoral degree
especially dissertation process will
make you grow it has to that's it's you
get pushed not in bad ways but you have
to change your you have to make sure you
have solid lot you you get challenged on
a lot of things that we don't get
challenged on in in day-to-day life okay
but in order to do peer rreview research
you have to be able to navigate those
Waters right um now the PTSD thing I I
would argue I've I have I have seen it
in some professors um I think this is
why you hear things to me if I if I hear
a professor say oh no students can't
finish in less than two years there's no
way that's a red flag for
me had experience well they probably no
well I'll I'll be blunt they they
probably took two years and they don't
want you to do faster than them and I
hate to say that but that is part of
what I call the Dirty Little Secret
those are red flags if you're hearing
stuff like that like I had I had a
discussion with one of our our students
and and they were saying listen um how
long do you think I how long how fast or
you know what duration do I should I
plan for do you think I can do it in
this year we had a conversation early
January and I said yeah you can do it in
a year if you're serious you'll be done
in 9 and 12 months and they said okay so
I can set my project plan to be finished
in December and I said no you set your
project plan to be finished on September
30th so you got a little buffer there in
case you run into some problems and they
were like you're serious I'm like I'm
serious you need to write to deliver and
have review and everything done by the
end of September okay because if you
want out if you want to be finished and
you want your degree shouldn't say you
want out but you know you know what I
mean so you want to be finished and say
hey I I made it I made it and I finished
let's be realistic and let's put a
little B that's the PM in me you know
put a little buffer in there so that you
don't blow past the end of December
right well it's discouraging then if
yeah you're going to run into some
you're going to run into some problems I
did it took me longer than I wanted um
for my dissertation but I still hit I
still was like I got to where I wanted
to be um well when it comes to research
you're talking about relying on a lot of
additional people and you don't you
don't always have control over their
schedules yeah there's a lot of variable
no no pun intended there's a lot of
variables involved with other people you
have typically have three committee
members that's how we operate here you
got to try to have them they have to
make time they have to work with you
there's there's like I said a lot of
variables um but yeah I mean just you
know be proactive be smart um but yeah
so that's kind of I'll say that's the
dirty little secret is that you know
sometimes that gets in the way I think
there are a contingent of doctorates out
there who come out the other side and
they somehow are like it's you you can't
you can't do it different than I did and
to like I said to me it's like I want
you to go faster than I did if you hit
the quality in the requirement levels
and you can do it faster than I you
should do it faster than me for God's
sakes I'm older I'm slower but the other
thing is you have better tools now you
should go faster than me I mean there
should be I should have no investment on
making sure you take a certain amount of
time my investment is you need to meet
the criteria to complete the degree and
it's quality Walsh wants quality
dissertations to go out and have an
impact right once that's met
congratulations yeah no absolutely
absolutely so so then that gets me into
the next thing and that was that was a
good way to set this up if why a
doctoral at Walsh because this is
something that we've you know we've
started to develop a way that an entire
college that is built around those
personal relationships and having
faculty that that communicate with
students on a regular basis yeah and why
so why why come to Walsh when you're
trying to get that doctoral what what
sets Walsh apart from
others you know I'm just going to bounce
back to our brand in our Legacy and I
think that's one I'll say frankly that's
why I've stayed here as long as I have
and two um you know I've I've had a
personal focus on wanting to have a
doctoral degree especially attack PhD
which like I mentioned earlier we have
coming up in Fall um and I why is that
important why do I think that Walsh is
the place for that um one I small we
have smaller class sizes typically
two um I'll say I'm not I nor any of our
faculty even full-time faculty are what
I would consider to be typical academics
okay we didn't we didn't you know wake
up one day and go I'm going to be a
college professor as a child and then
just go through High School directly
into college go all the way to the PHD
and then start
teaching I don't think that we have a
single example of that in our faculty at
all all right so every example is they
have real world experience they've been
out in the industry for decades
typically all right like for instance I
had decades in in business it cyber as
my backround Consulting all kinds of fun
stuff um and then you know I kind of got
sucked into teaching and had fun with it
that's what pulled me into academ and I
love doing research I was I was in
Industry I was taking all the projects
that required in that required research
so that was what drew me into research
and then I went okay I'm having fun with
this and I'm with research and I'm
having fun with um teaching so I'm I
just made the jump over in Academia but
um all of our we we even have adjuncts
that have you know doctorates they're
still working in field um they still
love working in field but they also love
the research piece so the ability to
spend time with people that are experts
in the subject matter that you want to
be involved with and they're still out
there they're in Ence thought leaders
they're hand I like to use the phrase
they're handson people they're doing the
work um that to me is why that that's
why in the other pieces I would say you
I'm going to bounce back to you know I
made the original comment of our brand I
think the Legacy that mvin Walsh left
left with us was we teach you Theory and
then we teach you the Hands-On how to do
it in the real world so everything so
when we talk what does that mean for
Doctor Dave that sounds great but what
does that mean it means we want applied
research I don't want pure theoretical
now if you're going to go down that road
okay that's fine but pref we prefer okay
what is the real problem that you're
trying to solve and how are you going to
have a direct impact like my although I
didn't admittedly I'll say I didn't do
it at Walsh but my degree is a doctorate
of Science and cyber so my research was
focused on identifying fakes of images
created on smartphones and have they
been manipulated and I was specifically
trying to solve a a problem with law
enforcement training in finding a
simpler way than heavy engineering and
Mathematics to do that all right so I
had a very
applied um approach now there's a whole
backstory um which I'll say we can save
for another day um on why I got pulled
into that um and it has to do with
forensic so mine was specifically in
image forensics so but you know what you
know why is a doctor of science guy
running a you know help and run a DBA
and so on and so forth here we still you
still have to use you know you have to
use logic you have to use scientific
method you have to come in you have to
prove that and then think of the Walsh
brand I talked about how is that going
to have a real impact in the world
that's really what we're after
interesting it is it's really
interesting and it's great to see what
is happening in the in at Walsh with the
doctoral programs we are expanding them
on a regular basis it feels like at this
point but to your point we're bringing
in the people who
are they're leading the charge in
instructing these because they have such
a passion for bringing up the Next
Generation in what do degre is I have
yeah I have people calling me doctorates
that are in field calling can I come and
teach with you guys yeah um spoke to a
gentleman on Friday I mean so people
words out um yeah we have a DBA so
here's my my Shameless plug you know uh
Forbes number one ranking for online DBA
nationally there's that we also got um
what is it CEO today magazine I know
that you know we we we released that on
social media as well got a top Global on
that as well we're taking all of those
same that same level of excellence and
dissertation process and all of that
those pieces we're bringing it into an
organizational leadership PhD and we're
bringing it into a tech PhD um so that's
that's where we're headed um I'm I'm
hoping to crush some awards over in
those spaces in the next year or two as
well um it's setting itself up we're get
we're getting tons of them already P we
are and you know and in reality what's
what's funny is we're not doing anything
beyond what we've what we've done we're
adding new degrees but our foundation is
so built on the working professional and
finding a way for you to fit education
into your life versus the other way
around and because we're set up that way
we are set up for the the success of
business business and technology
professionals yeah see it's interesting
you say that I would make a couple of
plugs here one um there's still old
school what I would call I guess I
should be careful when I say old school
but I'll use the phrase old school old
school phds which is you quit your job
and you're on campus full-time then you
got to pay for that you know there's
different ways to deal with it but
that's the old style PhD um and that's
still out there I mean if that interests
people great that has benefit to your
career path great um your point on the
working adult absolutely 100% all of our
doctoral courses are um evenings all
right so people work during the day they
take classes at night when we have
residencies those are on the weekends so
people can come in we do Friday Saturday
Sunday so if you have to miss work you
miss just Friday you do Friday Saturday
we do a half a day on Sunday and then
you head home and things like that and
I'll say the um I'll say the other loose
plug I don't remember if we talked about
this but if you're look at so if you're
in a position where one you're like I
don't understand why they're telling me
it's going to take me three years to do
my dissertation like I said red flag for
me um that's not a good situation I
would argue two I'm not if if people
aren't happy like you're you're like hey
I don't feel like I'm learning a lot
here or I don't feel like this is going
to pan out the way I I expected it to
where it's maybe not the quality of what
I expected but hey let's say you're
you're a third maybe you're halfway
through your your your doctorate and
you're like I'm afraid I got to start
over you
don't it is I say that really quietly
because then people listen yeah yeah
it's it you don't if you're in a
position where you're like I'm not super
happy um and I I wish I could go
somewhere else and just use the credits
I have and continue right give us a call
right you can do that can and that's and
that is why I love so much the way that
this program's been designed and and
it's and that goes from our
undergraduate all the way through our
doctoral we're here for that that
transferability and we're here to make
sure that you understand we are an
advocate for you as a student we are
designed for you for your education for
your life and for setting you up for a
career so well so if you're GNA if
you're thinking about a doctorate but
you're you're let's say you're wrapping
up your bachelor's and you're like hey
you know what am I going to do I want to
do my masters you can FastTrack we
didn't even talk about that no you can
FasTrack from Masters into doctoral and
you can cut down four courses yeah right
which so because it qualifies for both I
mean so there's other ways to speed this
baby uph absolutely then again I think
it's great the way that the Welsh is
being designed to help everybody
get theirself through college in any
capacity that they want right so if
they're an oncampus person be an on
campus person you want to be a virtual
person be a virtual person whatever
works for you let's do that we can work
with you for that but know that those
are all options that you have in in your
learning style yeah let me jump on that
for a a second I like to I'll use the
term Flex okay because I actually had
emails like oh I'm concern that you
require I have to attend class every you
know every week my schedule doesn't with
my working schedule I can't always do
that and you know the short version is
you can do it on your time just like you
said you can go okay if I can't make the
class we record it and then you can
consume it when it's it's it's most
advantageous for you as opposed to I
have to be there on that particular
night now I will say some classes we are
you know there's interactive things that
are happening between there's peer
learning as well as learning with the
professors so if you want that benefit
you you really want to show up class but
if your schedule's like listen I really
need to do it as almost fully online um
so on and so forth you can do that as
well I mean so as you said perfect
example like it fits your schedule it's
flexible yeah yeah it's education into
your life not your life into education
so well Dave I I mean this was great I
think the doctoral programs are going to
be incredible I think the ones that are
coming are going to be just as exciting
as the ones that already exist and I
can't wait to see what happens so thank
you for putting together all the degree
programs getting everything up and
running and putting the right people in
place to make sure everybody is prepared
all right thanks for your time today
appreciate it
thanks
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