Deprogramming-Reprogramming Workflow
Summary
TLDRIn this educational webinar, Dr. Hector F and Jenny from the Education team at Madden explore the concepts of deprogramming and reprogramming in dental treatment. They discuss the use of anterior bite splints for diagnosing joint issues, stabilizing joints, relaxing muscles, and adjusting bites. The presentation covers the design, printing, and integration of these devices into comprehensive treatment plans, emphasizing the importance of patient education and expectation management. Real-life case studies illustrate the effectiveness of deprogrammers in complex dental cases, highlighting the role of these tools in achieving optimal occlusal harmony.
Takeaways
- 😀 Deprogramming and reprogramming are techniques used to alter a patient's bite, with deprogramming aimed at making the patient's muscles 'forget' their usual bite position to allow for a new bite to be established.
- 🔧 The use of deprogrammers is a diagnostic tool to assess the health of the temporomandibular joint (TMJ) and to determine if there are any issues that need to be addressed.
- 🦷 Deprogrammers can help in various dental treatments such as orthodontics, full mouth rehabilitation, and in cases where patients exhibit heavy bruxism or have muscle symptoms.
- 👨⚕️ Dr. Hector F alone discusses his experience with deprogramming and reprogramming, emphasizing the importance of understanding when and why to use these techniques in dental practice.
- 🛠️ Anterior bite deprogrammers, like NTI and BPL devices, are designed to be worn by patients to help in the deprogramming process, and they can be customized using digital tools like Med splint.
- ⏱️ The time it takes for a patient to deprogram can vary widely, from minutes to weeks, depending on the individual's muscle activity and other factors.
- 💡 Deprogrammers can serve as a starting point in complex dental cases, helping to establish a new bite position that can guide subsequent orthodontic or restorative treatments.
- 🤔 Patient expectations should be managed when using deprogrammers, as the bite change they experience may be temporary and will require further treatment for long-term stability.
- 🗓️ Deprogrammers can be integrated into a comprehensive treatment plan, helping to diagnose, treat, and protect the patient's bite in a step-by-step process.
- 📈 The use of AI in dental software, like Med splint, is advancing the ease and speed of designing deprogrammers, potentially leading to more automated and precise outcomes in the future.
- 📚 The webinar format provides an opportunity for continuing education on topics like deprogramming and reprogramming, with real-case examples and discussions on best practices.
Q & A
What is the main purpose of using deprogrammers and reprogrammers in dental treatment?
-The main purpose of using deprogrammers and reprogrammers in dental treatment is to help patients forget their habitual bite patterns and reprogram their bite into a new, more suitable position. This process is particularly useful for diagnosing joint issues, checking joint stability, relaxing muscles, and establishing a starting point for complex dental cases.
What is the difference between deprogramming and reprogramming in the context of dental treatment?
-Deprogramming refers to the process of making the patient's muscles and joints forget their usual positions and movements, which can be influenced by muscle memory. Reprogramming, on the other hand, is the process of guiding the patient's muscles and joints into a new, therapeutically desired position after deprogramming.
How can deprogramming help in diagnosing joint problems?
-Deprogramming helps in diagnosing joint problems by allowing the practitioner to observe changes in the patient's bite and joint behavior when the usual muscle memory is disrupted. If there are issues within the joint, the patient's response to deprogramming can provide valuable diagnostic information.
What is the role of scanning technology in the creation of deprogrammers and reprogrammers?
-Scanning technology plays a crucial role in creating deprogrammers and reprogrammers by providing an accurate digital impression of the patient's mouth. This digital data can then be used to design and fabricate customized dental appliances, such as splints, which can be used for deprogramming and reprogramming purposes.
Why is it important to manage patient expectations when using deprogrammers?
-Managing patient expectations is important because deprogrammers can temporarily alter the patient's bite, which may cause discomfort or changes in their daily life. Patients need to understand that these devices are part of a larger treatment plan and that their bite will eventually be reprogrammed to a new, more suitable position.
How can deprogrammers be used in cases involving orthodontics or full mouth rehabilitation?
-Deprogrammers can be used in orthodontics or full mouth rehabilitation to establish a neutral starting point for treatment. By deprogramming the patient's bite, the practitioner can more accurately assess the patient's jaw position and muscle activity, which can then be used to inform the design of orthodontic appliances or the planning of full mouth rehabilitation.
What are some common types of deprogrammers mentioned in the script?
-Some common types of deprogrammers mentioned in the script include anterior bite splints, NTI (Nociceptive Trigeminal Inhibition) appliances, BPL (Bite Plane Lip) devices, and Co programmers. These devices work by creating an interior stop or by keeping the teeth apart to facilitate deprogramming.
How can the design of a deprogrammer be customized using digital tools?
-The design of a deprogrammer can be customized using digital tools by adjusting the shape, size, and position of the appliance to fit the patient's specific needs. This can include adding retention features, extending the appliance towards the back of the mouth, or modifying the occlusive surface to ensure comfort and effectiveness.
What factors should be considered when deciding whether to use a deprogrammer on the upper or lower arch?
-Factors to consider when deciding whether to use a deprogrammer on the upper or lower arch include the patient's existing dental work, such as crowns or partial dentures, the presence of any mobile or compromised teeth, and the antagonistic relationship between the upper and lower arches.
How can deprogrammers be integrated into a comprehensive treatment plan?
-Deprogrammers can be integrated into a comprehensive treatment plan by using them as a diagnostic tool to determine the patient's optimal jaw position and muscle activity. Once the patient has been deprogrammed, the practitioner can then design a treatment plan that includes orthodontics, full mouth rehabilitation, or other restorative procedures to reprogram the patient's bite into a new, more suitable position.
Outlines
😀 Introduction to Deprogramming and Reprogramming in Dentistry
The paragraph introduces a webinar on deprogramming and reprogramming in dental practices, focusing on the importance of forgetting the old bite and creating a new one. Jenny from the Education team at Madden welcomes the attendees and is joined by Dr. Hector F. They discuss the agenda for the webinar, which includes understanding the difference between deprogramming and reprogramming, the use of deprogrammers, and live demonstrations. The conversation highlights the goal of the webinar to educate dentists on these techniques and their applications in patient treatment.
🛠️ Deprogramming Devices and Their Clinical Applications
This section delves into the specifics of deprogramming devices, such as anterior bite splints, and their use in diagnosing joint problems and ensuring joint stability. Dr. Hector explains the importance of these devices in relaxing muscles and establishing a starting point for complex dental cases. He also shares his professional background, emphasizing his experience with occlusion and joint health, and discusses the potential of scanning technology in dental practices for efficiency and patient comfort.
🦷 Understanding the Importance of Joint Health in Deprogramming
The paragraph discusses the significance of joint health in the deprogramming process. It explains the anatomy of the temporomandibular joint (TMJ) and the role of muscles in its function. The text emphasizes that deprogramming devices help diagnose issues within the joint and ensure it is in the correct position. It also touches on the concept of muscle memory and how patients' brains remember their usual bite positions, which may not be ideal.
🔧 Methods and Techniques for Deprogramming Patients
This section explores various methods and devices used for deprogramming patients, including midpoint splints and devices that keep the teeth apart. It discusses the importance of the position of the device in the mouth for effective deprogramming and mentions specific brands and types of deprogramming devices. The paragraph also covers how to design these devices using dental software and the considerations for printing them, ensuring they provide adequate support and retention.
📏 Selection Criteria for Deprogramming Devices
The paragraph outlines the criteria for selecting appropriate deprogramming devices, considering factors such as the duration of use, the health of the patient's joints, and the presence of any dental restorations or dental appliances. It also addresses the importance of managing patient expectations and the potential need for alternative treatments if the deprogramming devices do not provide the desired results.
👥 Patient Expectations and Management of Deprogramming
This section discusses the expectations patients may have when using deprogramming devices and the potential experiences they might encounter, such as muscle tension, facial relaxation, and changes in their bite. It emphasizes the importance of informing patients about these changes and planning subsequent treatments to address any bite discrepancies that may arise after deprogramming.
📚 Integrating Deprogramming into Comprehensive Treatment Plans
The paragraph illustrates how deprogramming can be integrated into a comprehensive dental treatment plan, using simple and complex case examples. It demonstrates the process of using deprogramming devices to adjust a patient's bite and the subsequent steps taken to address the new bite position, such as extractions, orthodontics, or full-mouth rehabilitation.
⏱️ Duration of Deprogramming and Patient Variability
This section addresses the variability in the duration of deprogramming among patients, which can range from minutes to weeks, depending on individual muscle activity and the complexity of the case. It highlights the importance of patient assessment and the potential need for adjustments or referrals to specialists for more complex cases.
🔄 Conclusion and Recommendations for Deprogramming Practice
The final paragraph summarizes the key points of the webinar, emphasizing the benefits of deprogramming in diagnosing joint health, managing muscle tension, and serving as a starting point for complex dental cases. It concludes with recommendations for the practical application of deprogramming in dental practice, including the importance of reprogramming the patient's bite after deprogramming to ensure long-term stability.
📨 Closing Remarks and Invitation for Further Questions
The closing paragraph wraps up the webinar with an invitation for attendees to ask further questions and provide feedback. It acknowledges the informative nature of the lecture and expresses openness to addressing more in-depth questions or organizing additional webinars on the topic of anterior deprogrammers.
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Keywords
💡Deprogramming
💡Reprogramming
💡Splints
💡Anterior Bite
💡Muscle Memory
💡Dental Occlusion
💡3D Printing
💡Temporomandibular Joint (TMJ)
💡Orthodontics
💡Full Mouth Rehabilitation
Highlights
Introduction to the concept of deprogramming and reprogramming in dental treatment, focusing on changing a patient's bite.
The importance of deprogramming for patients with heavy bruxism or undergoing orthodontic treatment.
Use of anterior bite splints, like NTI and BPL, for deprogramming and their design process using Med splint app.
The role of deprogramming in diagnosing joint problems and ensuring joint stability before treatment.
Explanation of how deprogramming helps in relaxing muscles and serves as a starting point for complex dental cases.
The significance of scanning in dental clinics for reducing impression material distortion and time efficiency.
Advantages of using digital scanning over traditional impression methods for immediate evaluation and storage.
Different types of deprogrammers and their specific uses, including LIF Gates, NTI, and BPL devices.
The process of designing and adjusting deprogrammers using AI in dental software to fit patients' needs.
Indications for using deprogrammers, such as in cases of muscle symptoms or before full mouth rehabilitation.
Discussion on patient expectations when using deprogrammers and managing potential discomfort or pain.
Integration of deprogramming and reprogramming in comprehensive treatment plans for complex dental cases.
Demonstration of a simple case where deprogramming led to the extraction of wisdom teeth and symptom relief.
Presentation of a complex case involving multiple treatments and the use of deprogrammers to achieve a stable bite.
The variability in the time it takes for patients to deprogram, depending on muscle activity and individual response.
Recommendations for managing patient expectations and the importance of reprogramming after deprogramming.
Conclusion emphasizing the value of deprogramming and reprogramming in dental treatment for diagnosis and treatment planning.
Transcripts
yeah so what we're trying to do is make
them forget where the bite is used to
go and then once we know that the
patient is deprogrammed then we need to
reprogram the patient into a new bite
that we're going to be
creating hello everyone thank you for
joining us today my name is Jenny and
I'm a part of Education team at Madden
nice to meet you everyone and today we
have Dr Hector F alone hi
good to see you yenny yeah all good
thank
you so how have you been doing all good
oh good we we're really working on this
so I think this webinar is going to be
really interesting for everyone it's a
kind of part two of a part one that we
did so is a is a continuing education
really no yeah last time I asked you uh
the difference between deprogramming and
reprogramming and Dr Hector prepared a
very interesting topic this time yeah
thank you so many dentists will be so
eager to learn more about it
yeah I I hope it's interesting I think
it's a is a really broad topic and I try
to concentrate the part of De
programming we're going to talk about it
I think it's and the good thing is we're
going to do like a live session so we're
going to do it now I think that's going
to be really interesting as well yeah
yeah from this time I'll be attending
the lecture together from the beginning
and I'll be asking the question on the
behalf of the listeners yeah that's good
thank you yeah Sher your St dror
yeah great so thank you for joining me
today uh Jenny thank you very much for
um helping me with those webinars we'll
be talking today a bit more about
splints we already did talk about splint
last time and these are the kind of
splin that we had before uh I don't know
I'm going to see if we can uh see
something can you see the laser yeah I
can that's great so with this laser I'll
be pointing a few things that I think uh
the attendees will be looking at and we
can see together where this presentation
is pointing so those are the kind of
split that we talked about last time
this time I'll be talking a bit more
about de programmers so the de
programmers are going to be showing a
workflow the work that I use we're going
to see when and why we're going to be
using these kind of D programmers this
is some uh anterior bites um that Med
splint app can do so those are the kind
of splints that you can do as D
programmers with a platform in the
front and I'll be showing how to do them
um how to design them as well and then
considering the printing part of it I
think the the first part we already
talked about printing this is more about
understanding when and why using this
kind of um the programmers then on the Y
part of it and why do we use them why do
I want this interior bite Anor D
programmer the most important part here
is to understand that these little
devices help us us is going to they're
going to help us to diagnose if we have
any problems in the joints so the joints
is this part here we're going to talk a
bit about anatomy in the joint as well
but we need to understand that if there
is any problem here this little device
is going to help us uh to know well
there is a problem or the joints are
fine then the second kind of part on why
we use them is to check if there is
stability in the joint because some
joints are not healthy they are
destroying themselves or they're just
not in the right position then this
little device is going to help us as
well another thing that it does is
relaxing the muscles we're going to see
that why as well it's going to help with
with a starting point if we want to do
like a complex case if we want to do a
big case or if we're not really sure if
the bite is right this is a perfect time
to use these kind of De programmers and
then that's going to help us to sit the
cond in the right
position so this is just a bit about me
um I changed the picture but uh
I haven't changed much since last
presentation so I'm a general dentist
working in
Malaga uh I've been working for sorry
I've been working for a few years now
and I graduated and I went straight to
the UK I worked with Dr Ian Buckle in
this um talking I mean and I do some
courses um in occlusion so we are trying
to share a bit the expertise that we got
in inclusion splints and then uh joint
health and joint position and uh we've
been doing a great job in Copenhagen and
and Denmark and in the UK and I'm trying
to do this in Spain as well I think if
at some point I could go to South Korea
That'll be amazing but until then uh I
think we can do some webinars and uh
that that'll be good
enough so um
continuing into scanning scanning has a
really potential uh cost and time
Effectiveness when we scan if we are
thinking about introducing the scanner
in our Clinic is going to help us
reducing the Distortion of the
impression materials and also the time
wise because patient comes in first time
we do is scanning the patient as soon as
we scan the patient we can start
designing the splint and this going to
help us with big treatment cases
then it's going to be more comfortable
with the with the patient of course
because we don't have these materials
that go into our mouth I mean that's
well known already that scanners is part
of the future it's not something that
it's not even part of the future it's
part of the present it's not something
uh that we need to avoid anymore it's
something that we need to introduce in
our Clinic if we want to move forward in
these kind of things it's going to give
us an immediate evaluation uh of The
Impressions the impression is okay or
not
Yeah because sometimes we take an
impression we send it to the lab and
then the lab says well that's not too
good an impression so scanners help with
with this and then it's also so easy to
store because nowadays we have hundreds
of patients hundreds of records that we
need to keep for five years sometimes
even more uh ideally we want to have
those stored
somewhere so today what I'm trying to do
is organize this as in an agenda uh
we're g to try understanding what's the
muscle deprogramming and reprogramming
because that sounds like what is he
talking about yeah try to understand
that part then we're going to see when
is it important to do it or not or when
we don't need it to do it the methods to
do it um and the type of splint that we
can use not only we can use splint but
we can Al um but we can use all the kind
of the programmers then we're going to
see uh which is the most appropriate
Sprint in each case
we're going to see how to manage the
patient expectation because some
patients think that we're going to Sol
that life with this kind of De
programmers we not but we're going to
see how we can help the patient then
we're going to see how we're going to
introduce this is um and integrate this
in a big treatment plan we're going to
do a big case we're going to see how
this device is going to help us so for
the first part would be the
reprogramming deprogramming part yeah
part yeah this part so the first thing
that we need to understand is the joint
the anatomy that we got in the joint so
each one of us uh is the same yeah
considering that we have a healthy joint
I can't really go into detail and we
could do another webinar into not
healthy joints or problems in the dis or
things like that get really complex when
we get into that part but with healthy
joints the only thing that we need to
understand is this is the gleno fosa and
then inside that fosa we have a cile
which is part of the mandible in between
these two we have a dis and got we got
some RTO discal tissue so this muscle
that you can see
here um this is the lateral teroid so
this is the muscle that's going to allow
the joint to move forward that muscle
needs to be as relaxed as possible so
the cile is seated in the right position
where most of the patients have this
muscle a bit active so if that muscle is
slightly active the joint is not in the
right
position it can be a bit forward and
some patient they don't have any
symptoms but some others they do have
symptoms so we're going to see those
kind of patient that have muscle
symptoms but not joint issues and we're
going to see what the big difference
between them two and we got some
articles here talking about muscle
memory because patient when they try to
bite in the normal bite they kind
of they kind of have a a memory in their
brain that they always going to go into
the same position where they biting the
way they used to bite so we don't really
know if they're in the right position
because they're used to it and then they
feel comfortable some feel comfortable
others don't and we're going to see that
they do have a chewing pattern so some
patient they when they chew um they
always going to do the same movement
because teeth are going to dictate where
the joints they're going to be if my
teeth are forward then the The Joint
needs to be forward if the teeth are
back then the joint needs to be back and
then we need to know that this is a
healthy joint we cannot go into really
complic cases this is simple joints are
healthy the only way to know if joints
are healthy there's no sharpen pain or
there's no tension in the joint up here
yeah so we talked about why why we're
going to use this so those are the five
kind of points that we're going to be
seeing that why but then when do we use
this that's that's an important one when
do I want to use this Hector is it for
uh just healthy joints well ideally yes
we need patient with healthy joints but
if they don't have healthy joints
they're going to give us a feedback and
then we know as a diagnostic too this is
not good for them to use so that's
that's one part of it then we can
Orthodontics we're going to change um
the way the patient uh Al alignments the
the alignment in the patient teeth then
we can use this kind of device if we
have any muscle symptoms if we're going
to do a full mouth Rehabilitation on
impatient with heavy broism I think
that's a good thing to
use so will you deprogram every
patients so you you can deprogram every
patient but if the patient don't don't
have any symptoms I don't think it's
necessary so I wouldn't say that every
patient needs to be de program just in
patient that you're either going to be
doing orthodontist for M Rehabilitation
if they have any symptoms of they are
really heavy bres so those are the three
four cases that I'll be using these kind
of
devices overall the main thing that you
need to understand is when we're going
to change the patient occlusion if we're
going to do just a c filling and we
probably don't need this kind of devices
but if we're going to do a big case then
ideally yes H using in this kind of
paent um so before moving on um can you
explain more about deprogramming and
reprogramming so that we can so yeah de
programming what we trying to do is uh
make the patient
forget uh where the muscles and the
joint where the muscles are programmed
to be sorry so the joints can sit in the
right position so when we tell the
patient when we talk about deprogramming
that means make the patient uh so they
programmed to do the same that's a
muscle memory yeah so what we're trying
to do is make them forget where the is
used to
go and then once we know that the
patient is deprogrammed then we need to
reprogram the patient into a new bite
that we're going to be creating got it
so that's the whole concept of
deprogramming the patient with really
deprogramming the muscles to reprogram
the patient again into another scheme
they're going to be working in a
different
scheme yeah I think everyone also got
the idea yeah because I got it everyone
got it okay that's great so moving on
the method on how to deprogramming the
patient or the muscle of that
patient ideally and this is the studies
that many years ago we had this some
studies you got some um on the
bibliography that I that I
had when we have a midpoint Splinter
something that's in between the teeth
most
anally the the more interior you have
something the more it's going to
deprogram the muscle the activity of the
muscle is going to be reduced so the
cond can sit in the right position so
anything that's a midpoint splint that
goes in the middle that's going to help
us the NTI bepl of Co programmers those
are just names they're not my names that
the names that have been use um uh for
those kind of De
programmers but really these kind of De
programs the patient is wearing it and
they can take it them at home or not
where the LIF Gates and the Luci we
talked about this in the other webinar
as well it's something Anor as well but
they cannot wear it and we're going to
be using that in the clinic we can print
those kind of LIF Gat or Lucid or we can
have a stock of those so you can buy
them and you can have them in the clinic
so uh and then we got others if we keep
the teeth apart and the patient is going
to start deprogramming itself but also
you got Brands like
aqualizer that they help to deprogram it
anything that you place in between your
teeth is going to do some sort of
deprogramming because the muscle they're
not going to remember where they used to
go if you have something in between your
two so into the meod the first one that
I've designed is some sort of
Niti so the Niti is something that goes
in the front fairly
easy Med spint allows you to just with
AI to do this follow all the steps so
you can understand what we need to do
but we need to have a lot of retention
because we're only going to grab two to
three teeth sometimes four so we need a
lot of retention um that's loading it's
just you can't see the message in
loading but that's loading so the the
program is going to think well then
needs to go here and it's going to give
us some sort of um
design on where that uh anterior NTI is
going to
go that's simple then we can add the
name I like to have a name to so I know
which one which is the patient this is
just
mine yeah that's my name
and then you can print directly this
kind of uh NTI but
also sometimes some patients they might
clench it into this so this little uh
surface can break one of the things that
you can do is add a bit so you can give
it an extra support yeah so I'm just
adding it's just easily adding uh with
the adding
tools you can add anywhere you can add
in the front you can add in the
occlusive surface here I'm just kind of
adding and smoothing adding and
smoothing and at the end you have some
sort of
anterior um
stop but with support that support is
important the patient is going to bite a
bit Harden into
that don't think the patient is going to
hard too hard bite too hard into this
you don't really need to do
this that's just give an extra support
yeah this just little trick you can do
and so you know these kind of programs
help you to change a few things if you
like okay so moving on to the
bint is something quite similar again
you click onto anterior bite in
um Med spint and then
into manual creation you can do
automatic problem with automatic is
going to create something like the one
we did before yeah we want to do BPL we
need to extend the bit towards the back
the BPL the difference here is say the
patient can swallow this because it's
small so if you worri that the patient
is going to sleep with it and it's a
small device you can extend this kind of
splint toward the back so if it's big
enough the patient won't be able to
swallow it yeah and also if there is not
much retention see you can go towards
the back
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just a few changes that that you can
do this kind of video they're not
accelerated they're just at the same
speed as I'm doing it so if this video
takes two minute that's the two minute
that it took me this is not going any
quicker so sometimes you want to
accelerate things because it's loading
but this kind of splints because the
computer doesn't need to think too much
because they're quite simple to do uh
it's quite easy so once you got the
roughly the
idea you can move into the next step
that's what takes to
think of a design that you want to
do have you seen this kind of splints
before uh Jenny yeah this kind of splint
is quite ler right
yeah I think Med is doing a great job
with the anterior but not many program
that I seen you have that little square
in there oh and I I like it because it's
flat it allows me to have a flat surface
so what we don't want is having the
teeth the teeth form into these oh so it
needs to be as flat as possible so the
patient can move
freely anywhere to the left to the right
or towards the front and you can add the
name and again it's just the same
you need a certain thickness I think
this is 1.5 to 2
mm uh so the you can print the material
and it doesn't
break but you're not touching anything
in the back you're only touching in the
front yeah and then a CO deprogrammer
it's just Dr Co created this kind of um
de programmers the idea is the same you
have an interior
stop but it's just a way to hold it
especially we're going to see it later
on the co programmer just goes through
the pallet so if it goes through the
pallet you don't need the teeth say
maybe you have Restorations that are
breaking maybe you have certain teeth
that are moving and you don't want to
grab into any teeth so the good thing
with this kind of devices it goes around
the
gums we can change the design slightly I
think that that's loading again
and then changeing the
design it's fairly easy so you just need
to tell the program to drag the points
you bring that closer to the
tooth
y eventually I think Med is doing some
so many uh the feedback that we give we
give and then so many advancements and
improvements if we say thanks to AI
really in not no time there's going to
be one button that we click and it's
going to create this kind of things I
think that things are moving really
quick so you can make a coyd programmer
with AI function right not at the moment
but I think I'm really sure really close
in the future you can click to Ai and it
can give you some sort of Co programmer
this is
because the program at the moment is not
trained to do these kind of things oh
but if you do aund of these then the
program knows how to do it
and it's it's going to be possible soon
and I think AI is taking over in many
many things uh and I think Med is doing
an amazing job with a with AI as
well yeah something like that so that
goes round the
G this look so different from the normal
one is it yeah not uncomfortable is it
okay no those kind of devices they're
not uncomfortable so like removable
Dentures they go into soft tissue but it
just grabs to the teeth and it it's not
not uncomfortable at
all you don't need to wear this uh
247 sometimes you do but not not always
but the good thing with these kind of
devices is because it's not wrapping the
teeth you can't you can barely see it
because it's in the back yeah AIT more
aesthetic as well yeah so moving on to
which one so we we saw three of them
there is others out there those are the
ones that you can do with Med splint
fairly easy the most important part that
we need to understand is is it for
shortterm or is it for longterm use if
we're going to be using something for
shortterm I think we can use like um
Lucy CH or a LIF gauge or like the NTI
something that goes in the
front um and it's small because it's
only for shortterm but if the patient is
going to sleep with it uh and it's going
to be for a few weeks then we need
something more like a beis bling because
we want those teeth uh to to hold the
teeth in the right position and then to
avoid the patient to swallow or lose it
because sometimes you just lose this
small bit what is a bit bigger it's a
bit more difficult to lose
it but also if we're going to be using
this for a long term we need to
understand that the joints need to be
healthy that's the second part of this
if the joints are not healthy we cannot
use this for a long time yeah so when we
said when we want to use it we also need
to understand that the joint needs to be
healthy sorry the joint need to be
healthy
um but there there needs to be no pain
in the joints okay we're going to see on
the patient expectation when uh we need
to remove move it but then we need to
understand that if there is any temporal
Mula disorders we need to take that out
okay what what kind of strch mod should
be done so um we're going to see that
Jenny as well um but if we can cannot
use this kind of anterior bite we need
something like a full coverage like the
ones that we saw in another webinar
that's going to help with the joints
these kind of devices they don't help
with the joint they're going to help
with muscle but not really joint I
so talking about upper or
lower say we have really crowded teeth
in the lower but we have really aign
teeth in the front then we might want to
do a lower yeah de program instead of
the top one because if we do a top one
and the teeth are really crowded then
it's not going to be even on the
platform that we created so which one
either top or bottom it's going to
depend as well on the antagonist that we
have if we have any partial DST we don't
want to have this device on top of a
partial denter because at the end you're
going to be removing this and removing
the denter and you can break the uh
denture as well so I think it'll be
easier to have it in the antagonist yeah
also if you have crowns or teeth that
can that can break say a crown that can
fall out or a tooth that's Peri
compromis that moving you have a two
that mobile that has Mobility in it yeah
you don't want to flash against this
platform say you have with Mobility 3
you don't want to be using this kind of
devices use something different or place
it in the lowest so you can hit the top
you need to find an alternative to
it so the process of doing this is the
same that we saw in the first part we
need the scanner we need we can use the
medit i700 I think the i900 is out there
if we have it then we can use any
scanner will work because the good thing
with medit is at the moment we can use
the apps but the good thing with medit
is you can record and we will see how
the recording yeah is going to help us
integrate this at the very end if we're
going to be using another kind of
scanners then we got not going to have
the recording uh
included then we can use the med this
splint up and then we need a printer
once we got the printer we can send this
to a lab they can do it for us we have a
printer we can do it that's depending on
uh whatever we got in the
clinic and then we can use these kind of
resins key keyint soft works really
nicely for me if we want to polish them
we can use key print key polish that
helps with the polishing of the splint
we're not going to produce it you don't
need this part if you're going to
produce it this kind of material works
really really
nicely so in the patient expectation
what does the patient expect or Nick to
expect when they wearing this kind of
device it keeps going to the next
presentation I don't know why I'm not
clicking anything
yeah so the patient expectations so the
patient want to wear these kind of
device they need to think about what's
going to happen what do I need to feel
or what you need to tell them that can
happen the first thing that can happen
is pain so patient can experience pain
and that's important to know because we
need to understand how to manage the
pain or if we can use these kind of
devices in the patients or not so if the
pain comes from tension in the muscle
that can be normal sometimes they may
feel I never experience this kind of
tensions here and here and sometimes it
goes down in
that that can be normal because some
patients and this is interesting when
you wear them this this kind of device
they're going to relax the muscle but
that pain sometimes come from patient
getting used to the pain and they always
they always been in pain and then you
give them this kind of device they're
starting to relax and now they they
remove it and it's oh now it's painful
now it's painful it was painful before
but you never noticed
because the pain you can manage the pain
or you were used to the pain so that's
the first kind of pain it's more like a
tension tenderness sort of thing in the
muscles but if that tensional tenderness
comes in the joint which is a sharp kind
of pain coming close to the ear then we
need to ask the patient to remove that
immediately yeah so we need to tell them
don't wear it bring them back um bring
them back to the clink maybe we need to
the sort of they're going to be using
okay so also the second thing that can
happen is the muscle activity we're
going to reduce that muscle activity so
the patient can feel and I have patient
that their wife or their husband they be
like well his face is a bit more relaxed
I can see his face he's not like that
he's now bit more like that so you can
see some facial relaxation and also the
muscle activity is going to be reduced
so if the patient had some headaches
coming from this area here they might
feel a bit better thanks to these
devices right so that you can tell the
patient well this can
happen also and that's probably what we
want this kind of devices for is for the
bite adjustment so if the patient wear
this say for8 hours at night time once
they wake up they're not going to be
able to bite in their position where
they used to
bite so they're going to feel really
weird and they're going to ask us well
when I woke up I had my breakfast and
now I can't really bite then my bite is
in the back tee or I can only bite in
one side because the joints yeah are
sitting and now the teeth don't really
match but after this we need to think
about some treatment that we need to do
either like we said big cases full
Rehabilitation maybe Orthodontics and we
need to align the teeth into the correct
position or sometimes we need just to
don't know maybe give them a partial
denter
or depending on the case we need to do
an appropriate treatment plan but we
need to tell them your bite is going to
change and that's
important
yeah I think you got a question Jenny
yeah so um what if the patient has
symptoms with the de
programmers so they can have symptoms
um because of the load that we are
applying in the joints so if they have
any pain we need to ask them to take it
out come back to the clinic as soon as
possible and then we need to see maybe
changing that patient into a full
coverage splint again it's a broad topic
and we're always talking about healthy
joints if the joints are not healthy
then that's that's a different part of
the presentation maybe we can do another
webinar talking about that was very
interesting yeah those are really
difficult cases probably we need to we
can refer those kind of patient to the
specialist we're not really sure if the
patient is feeling better with this kind
of anterior bites maybe refer them
that's probably the best thing that we
could do for them h
yeah okay then uh the why they have pain
here sometimes is because there's not
really um a dis in between the joint and
the
glenoid and then those patient are
pressing against the rod discal tissue
which can be quite so so it's important
to know that if they have any pain in
the joints take it
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out so moving on to integrate this which
is the the bit that I like as a dentist
into a comprehensive treatment
plan I prepared just a simple case and a
complex case the simple
one we're going to talk through these
kind of
cases so this is the patient came to the
clinic we recorded him uh into this
position which is maximum intercuspation
so mi so teeth are just together but we
can see this patient has a bit of wear
so this is a um professional heavy
lifter he was always complaining about
pain coming from here um he had a lot of
tension in the
muscles and then he was biting into that
bite and well that's my bite and it
feels okay that's what he thought so we
gave him some sort of
deprogrammer and after taking just a
week with this
we saw that the wisom teeth are the
first oh my God the once the cor is
sitting the correct bite of this patient
is this one problem is when he was
trying to bite he had to move forward to
join the the the jaw a lot to bring that
into the correct
position that's why he had a lot of
tension a lot of tenderness in mus and
the joints so the only thing that we
needed to do with him was to extract now
we have the extraction of the wh and
teeth and now that's a different
completely different case because now
the the patient is biting properly all
the symtom has disappeared and he feels
a lot better and as we said he's a
professional heavy lifter he needed to
have an he was clenching a lot when he
was
lifting so now he uh feels a lot better
thanks to just really simple case where
thanks to the deprogrammer you can see
where the bite of that patient was
and then we can do a treatment according
to this in this case we just needed to
remove the wisdom teeth in other cases
we need to do different different things
but this is just a really simple case
that illustrate really well how the D
programmer can help
us
yeah and then into a really complex case
and this is a case that took me few
weeks to it wasn't really wasn't
easy but if you follow up protocol I
think you can do this kind of complex
cases the patient that comes in that has
a lot of wear that has a lot of um tooth
surface Lo tooth surface lost you have
over the years he had some treatment
done he had a veneer in that lateral and
then you want to restore this case but
if he's biting completely you don't have
space to restore him so you want to open
the bite and how much you want you want
to open the bite before opening the bite
that just complicates everything the
first thing that I would do if give them
some sort of
deprogramming so once they got something
you can record the second bite
yeah then we give them
this same case we give them the de
programmer they wait it for a week
sometimes less sometimes more we're
going to go through that together
and then that's just how the jaw goes to
a different position that's a different
position and the implant that he
had why it's in
plaster the first point of contact the
interference that he had uh was in the
in the uh
implant sometimes an implant and implant
crown and you're like well the patient
is fine well we need to make sure that
the patient is fine and I have to remove
that uh Crown so we Restorations for him
in the front
we and then you can see with the tempies
I mean this is a case that I could go
and it takes me 14 minutes just to talk
about this case long case but we did
some uh overlays in the back uh veneers
overlays sort of thing
yeah and then we did some three quarters
veneers in the front simple composite
lowest this is composite but then we pre
and we did ven poers because a case that
we wanted to have him stable in a
temporary phase sorry temporary phase
and then move into a final
case and that took me weeks so maybe I
think even up to three months I think
that case was how long should we wait
for de programming
so that can take I mean I have patient
that in a week they completely de
program I have patient that in a few
minutes the de program it does yeah it
does
depend because I can show
you um it it really depends on the
patient muscle activity if
that that it's going to take a bit
longer but if you see that
moves freely maybe sometimes in five
minutes those patient are fully
deprogrammed more complex the patients
are the more um they're going to need
that de programming so it does depend on
the patient really I
see so these kind of cases the good
thing with medit as well is where we can
record the mandibular movements and then
we finished the case and we recorded the
mandibular movements and this helped me
to to understand that the patient now
has a new bite and we reprogram the bite
to be in a different position now this
bite let me just press play this is the
left laterality this is Canan guidance
which help us a lot with uh muscle
activity as well on the right on the
right side he's class two I mean he's
just skeletic on the the jaw is smaller
so skeletic it's a bit smaller so I
can't really have K9 to K9 contact so I
had
lateral here lateral against K9 so when
I press play again oh
sorry let me go
back so when we
have here the movement we got the left
side
then we got the right side this is
lateral against K9
yeah I think I tried to do like a group
function with the with the preoral as
well
yeah and then we got the interior we
don't have any Prem maturities in the
back and we can make sure that there is
no teeth catching in the back thanks to
this as
well what we done with this kind of this
this patient with a heavy breure once we
done with the full case and I want to
protect my work everything that I've
done the ven that I've done again we
done this in the first webinar we can do
a full full mouth coverage um splint on
the top or on the lower and that's going
to protect the job that we've
done yeah
yeah so talking about deprogramming and
this is answering a bit more about your
question how long
how long is the question that I get ask
a lot and uh it's really difficult to
point at the patient that they're going
to De program really quick I think with
experience you can get to understand
okay this patient now is De programed
but if you are unsure and the the the
joints are healthy I'll say keep the
patient a bit
longer because it's not going to cause
any armm if the joints are healthy yeah
we want to deprogram the patient we want
to make this those muscle forget where
they are used to go and everyday basis
where they
chewing it can take few few minutes it
can take a couple of days it can take a
couple of weeks that depends on the
patient and then we need to do something
about it because if we don't do anything
about it then the patient is going to
feel like his bite is always
off that can lead to orthodontic that
can lead to just a simple equilibration
that can lead to a complex case uh
sometimes you can just do some TBL stops
in the back there's so many different
treatment plans we could talk in a
different webinar about how many we can
do about those kind of Dr program
patients and I have many cases that have
treated with different techniques and we
can see
all and then we need to reprogram the
patient not our job to
Just DE reprogram them but if we give
them a stable bite with posterior
discusion uh with an anterior bite in
harmony with the envelope of function so
we're going to have the patient um
protecting his his own bite protecting
his own teeth if we have can and
guidance then the muscle activity lowers
a
lot
yeah as a conclusion and some
recommendation we can have some and I
think the programmers can help a lot but
we need to know exactly when to use them
but it can help us with diagnosis it can
help us to know is the joints are
healthy or not it can help us with the
pain and the tension that we got in the
muscles patient do get
better um talking about muscles when we
use
this uh it help us as a starting
point if we have don't have an idea of
where we want to start if we have a big
case don't know do we have to open the
bite here here here not too sure as a
starting point it's really
good with heavy Brees if you have a
patient that they know or their Partners
at home yeah you can hear that patient
that goes to left right they clench a
lot this helps a lot with clenches this
helps a lot with uh heavy bres as well
if we want to use them as a long term
maybe we need to consider something
different and then this help with
headaches headaches not migraines like
the migraines that we can locate here in
the front but more headaches that goes
in the back like here on the side sorry
right we have various options we've seen
them it's the same idea it's something
an interior in the front something in
the front to keep the teeth apart we
need to manage the patient expectation
patient don't know and don't understand
what's going to happen if they wear this
or
not and then we seen how we can
integrate this in a bigger treatment
plan that that's the whole goal really
we can help the patient with pain but
really this helps us to deprogram the
patient but we need to reprogram it
later if we're going to just deprogram
the patient what what's the point really
that's just
the why would we do that and then de
programming it's it's only temp but it's
a is an important step as a as a big
treatment
plan yeah so thank you very much Jenny
uh this is my email wants to send me an
email uh with questions about this
really happy we'll answer them um if you
have any questions Jenny I'm here to ask
any question that you have as
well um I asked every questions that I
wanted to know between the lectures it
was really interesting to see all the
cases it was a real case of yours right
so yes so those cases I've cheated them
here in the practice actually one of
them his name is Hector because he my
father so that's took me that took me a
while to do three
months his name is Hector like me I
think in Spain we like to be called us
our parents if I I don't have kids but
if I have kids
maybe one of them will be called Hector
as well
yeah okay so that's everything about
today right yes I think the we covered
the the programers um let's wait for the
feedback as well see what people think
about these kind of things if we have
any deeper questions into anterior de
programers we can talk a bit more about
it we want to move into achievement
cases we can prepare another webinar
that's no problem with me wow okay thank
you for um preparing such a great
lecture for today so
that's all today so yeah see you next
time thank you for being here doctor
you're welcome bye bye bye
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