HARTAIXX2016-V014400

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4 May 201701:51

Summary

TLDRThe transcript discusses the contrasting views on art and culture, highlighting Bard's skepticism and his perception of the center as duplicitous, inviting an experience that no longer exists. It contrasts Bard's depth model of art, which seeks sincerity and profundity, with a horizontal model exemplified by the Santra Padu, a site of cultural power and energy that connects and represents different city spaces on a networked surface of information and flow.

Takeaways

🤔 The speaker acknowledges the value of Bard's analysis but questions the extent to which his cynicism should be accepted.
🎭 Bard's view of the center as duplicitous is discussed, suggesting it offers an experience of art or culture that no longer exists.
🎨 The speaker contrasts Bard's idea of art and culture with a conservative perspective, noting that both expect art to be distinct from everyday life.
🔍 Bard anticipates art to possess sincerity and profundity, qualities he believes are unattainable in the current era of simulacra.
🏛 The speaker suggests that the 'depth model' of art, as Bard envisions, has been replaced by a 'horizontal model'.
🌆 The horizontal model of art is exemplified by the Santra Padu, a place where different sites and events from the city are connected and brought together.
📐 The Santra Padu is described as a place where cultural power and energy are generated on a 'horizontal plane' or 'surface of networks'.
🌐 It is a counter site, a place of difference and alterity, where cultural power is generated through the flow of information.
🔗 The Santra Padu facilitates the connection, examination, contestation, and representation of different city spaces.
🏙️ The script implies a shift in the understanding of art, from a depth model to a model that emphasizes the horizontal integration of cultural elements.
🌟 The discussion highlights the evolving nature of art and its relationship with the surrounding cultural and social context.

Q & A

What is the main point of contention in the discussion about Bard's analysis?
-The main point of contention is whether to fully accept Bard's cynicism regarding the center's duplicity and his views on the current state of art and culture.
How does the script characterize the center's approach to art and culture?
-The center is seen as inviting an experience of art or culture that no longer exists, suggesting a certain level of insincerity or artificiality.
What is the difference between Bard's and the conservative view on art as expressed in the script?
-Both Bard and the conservative view expect art to be distinct from everyday life, with sincerity and profundity, but Bard believes this is no longer possible in the third order of simulacra.
What is the 'depth model of art' referred to in the script?
-The depth model of art is a traditional perspective that art should have depth and meaning, which Bard believes has been displaced in the current cultural landscape.
How does the script describe the 'horizontal model of art'?
-The horizontal model of art is where the center gathers sites and activities from different parts of the city, connecting them on a horizontal plane or surface, creating a network of information and flow.
What is the significance of the PLO BG in the context of the script?
-The PLO BG is described as a counter sight, a site of difference and alterity, where cultural power and energy are generated on a horizontal plane.
How does the script relate the concept of the simulacra to the current state of art?
-The script suggests that we are in the third order of simulacra, where the traditional depth model of art has been replaced by a horizontal model, affecting the sincerity and profundity of art.
What is the role of the facade in the horizontal model of art as described in the script?
-The facade serves as the surface on which different kinds of events and activities are brought together and expressed, symbolizing the connection and representation of various city spaces.
How does the script view the process of contesting and examining cultural spaces within the PLO BG?
-The PLO BG is a place where different sites and spaces in the city can be connected, examined, contested, and represented, suggesting a dynamic and interactive approach to cultural experience.
What is the implication of the script's discussion on the future of art and culture?
-The implication is that the traditional expectations of art and culture may no longer be applicable, and the future may involve a more interconnected and horizontal approach to cultural experiences.
How does the script suggest we should approach the experience of art and culture today?
-The script suggests that we should embrace a more horizontal and interconnected approach, recognizing the value in the gathering and connection of diverse cultural elements.

Outlines

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🤔 Reflection on Bard's Art and Culture Analysis

The speaker critically examines Bard's perspective on art and culture, suggesting that while Bard's analysis is valuable, his cynicism may not be entirely warranted. Bard perceives the center as duplicitous because it seems to promise an experience of art or culture that no longer exists. He also believes that art should possess sincerity and profundity, qualities he feels are unattainable in the current simulacrum. However, the speaker disagrees, arguing that the depth model of art Bard adheres to has been replaced by a more horizontal model, exemplified by the Santa Padu, where art and culture are interconnected and expressed on a surface of information networks and flow. This horizontal model allows for the examination and representation of different sites and spaces within the city, challenging the traditional depth model of art.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Bard

Bard is likely a reference to a critic or commentator in the video's context. The term suggests someone who offers analysis or interpretation, possibly with a critical or skeptical perspective. In the script, Bard's analysis is acknowledged as helpful, indicating that his insights contribute to the understanding of the subject matter.

💡Cynicism

Cynicism, in this context, refers to a general distrust or skepticism, particularly towards the motives of others or the authenticity of experiences. The script mentions that Bard's cynicism is not fully accepted, suggesting a debate over the genuineness of cultural experiences in the modern world.

💡Center

The 'center' in the script seems to symbolize a central point or institution, possibly a cultural or artistic hub, that is perceived as duplicitous. It invites experiences that may no longer be authentic, reflecting a critique of modern cultural institutions.

💡Duplicitous

Duplicitous means deceitful or tending to deceive. In the script, the center is described as duplicitous, implying that it may not be offering genuine cultural experiences but rather a facade that invites participation under false pretenses.

💡Experience of Art/Culture

The 'experience of art or culture' refers to the personal engagement with and appreciation of artistic and cultural expressions. The script suggests that such experiences are changing, with the traditional depth and sincerity of art being questioned in the modern context.

💡Simulakra

Simulakra, derived from 'simulacra', refers to copies or representations that have no original, or copies of copies. In the script, the 'third order of the simulakra' suggests a critique of a culture where originality and authenticity are replaced by replication and superficiality.

💡Profundity

Profundity denotes depth, particularly in terms of intellectual or emotional significance. The script contrasts the expectation of art's profundity with the perceived superficiality of modern cultural expressions.

💡Horizontal Model

A 'horizontal model' of art, as opposed to a 'depth model', suggests a flattened, interconnected approach where various elements are brought together on the same plane. The script uses this term to describe a new way of experiencing art that is more about connection and surface-level interaction.

💡Santra Padu

Santra Padu is not a standard term but seems to be used in the script to represent a specific place or concept where the horizontal model of art is exemplified. It is a site of cultural power and energy, suggesting a vibrant and dynamic cultural space.

💡Counter Sight

Counter Sight appears to be a term used in the script to describe a place or perspective that challenges the mainstream or dominant view. It represents a site of difference and alterity, offering an alternative lens through which to view cultural phenomena.

💡Networks of Information and Flow

This phrase refers to interconnected systems through which information and influence are exchanged. In the context of the script, it describes the way in which cultural experiences are now mediated and experienced, emphasizing the interconnectedness and fluidity of modern culture.

Highlights

Bard's analysis is seen as helpful but not without cynicism.

Bodar views the center as duplicitous for inviting an experience of art and culture that no longer exists.

Bodar's concept of art and culture is compared to the conservative view expressed at the Whitney.

Bodar expects art to be distinct from everyday life with sincerity and profundity.

The third order of simulacra is suggested as a place where traditional art expectations may no longer be possible.

A horizontal model of art is proposed, where the center gathers sites and connections from different parts of the city.

The center is described as a place for gathering different kinds of events and activities on a horizontal plane.

The facade of the center is seen as a surface for expressing connections and activities.

The PLO BG is identified as a counter sight, a site of difference and alterity.

Cultural power and energy are generated at the PLO BG as if on a horizontal plane or surface of networks.

The PLO BG is a place where different city sites and spaces can be connected, examined, contested, and represented.

The depth model of art is suggested to have been displaced.

The center's role in gathering and connecting different cultural expressions is emphasized.

The horizontal model of art challenges traditional expectations of art's separation from everyday life.

The importance of the center's role in the horizontal model of art is highlighted.

The concept of art as a horizontal gathering of experiences and expressions is explored.

The transcript discusses the transformation of art from a depth model to a horizontal model.