A Two-State Solution is NOT the solution (So what is?) #palestine #israel

Summary

The script argues that a two-state solution for Israel and Palestine is unrealistic. It claims the core issue is not land or occupation, but rather the Palestinian goal since early on has been to eliminate Israel. It points to the lack of democracy and human rights in Muslim-majority countries as evidence that compromise and peaceful coexistence are not valued. The script urges listeners to understand the problem fully, claiming past negotiations have failed because Palestinians reject compromise, not because of settlements. It concludes that real change can only happen when Palestinians adopt democratic values, stop infighting, recognize Israel, and give up the goal of destroying Israel.

Takeaways

• 😕 The speaker does not actually support the two-state solution he says others do
• 😢 The speaker believes the core problem is that Palestinians want to eliminate Israel, not just regain land
• 🤔 The speaker sees little evidence of democratic values or human rights in Muslim countries
• 😠 The speaker believes surrounding Muslim countries would destroy Israel if they could
• 😤 The speaker sees Palestinian violence against Israel as serious, not just rhetoric
• 🧐 The speaker argues Palestinians have rejected two-state solutions repeatedly over history
• 😌 The speaker sees Israeli society as politically diverse and non-violent unlike neighbors
• 🙁 The speaker does not see a solution anytime soon given attitudes on the Arab side
• 🤨 The speaker challenges viewers to prove him wrong with factual historical examples
• 😃 The speaker welcomes disagreement if substantiated thoughtfully

Q & A

What is the main point of view of the Palestinians and the Muslim world regarding Israel?

The main point of view is that Israel should be eliminated. This view has existed before the establishment of Israel in 1948 and before there were any settlements in the West Bank and Gaza.

According to the speaker, what is the core problem preventing peace between Israelis and Palestinians?

The core problem is that the Palestinian leadership, from the beginning, has sought to eliminate the Jewish state, not live beside it. They have rejected numerous opportunities to establish their own state.

What does the speaker say is the difference between Israeli and Palestinian/Arab societies when it comes to values like democracy and human rights?

The speaker says that while Israeli society is highly diverse and democratic despite challenges, you do not see democracy, human rights, or thriving minorities in most Muslim/Arab countries, including Palestinian territories.

Why does the speaker frequently reference Syria?

To highlight the hypocrisy of pro-Palestinians who protest Israel but not the atrocities committed by Arab regimes. Also to illustrate what such regimes/societies are capable of doing.

What evidence does the speaker provide that a unique Palestinian identity or people did not exist in history?

He quotes Zuheir Mohsen, a leader of the PLO, who said in 1977 that a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical political reasons to oppose Zionism, and there are no differences between Arabs across the region.

What were the Mandates established after World War I regarding the former Ottoman territories?

The defeated Ottoman territories were divided between Britain and France to administer as Mandates under supervision of the League of Nations, including establishing a Jewish homeland in Palestine.

Why does the speaker say the land belongs to the Jews according to international law?

Because the 1920 San Remo conference and subsequent League of Nations mandates supported establishing a homeland for the Jews in Palestine, which was later reaffirmed internationally.

What evidence does the speaker provide that Arabs were not willing to compromise on partition?

He notes the Arabs rejected partition plans in 1937 and 1947 before Israel's establishment and 1948-1967 when they could have had a state. They maintained the view Israel should be eliminated.

What does the speaker say is the main obstacle to a peaceful solution?

The Arab side does not truly accept compromise or Israel's legitimacy, and the violence and eliminationist rhetoric over decades makes negotiations fruitless until their views fundamentally change.

When does the speaker say the conflict might be resolved?

When the Arabs are ready to recognize Israel, become democratic societies, stop killing each other, and prove they accept Israel's legitimacy. So likely not anytime soon.

Outlines

00:00

😕 History of failed partition plans

The paragraph provides historical context about failed attempts to partition the land into Arab and Jewish states. It mentions rejected proposals in 1937, 1947, after Israel's founding in 1948, and in the 1990s/2000s. The author argues the core issue is not settlements or occupation but rather the Palestinian goal to eliminate Israel, referencing quotes showing this sentiment over the past 100 years.

05:02

😟 Palestinian and broader Muslim society lacks democratic values

The paragraph contrasts Israeli democracy and diversity with Muslim countries lacking the same. It is used to argue that the values of Muslim society, including Palestinians, make them unlikely to accept and sustain a two-state solution over time. Syria is referenced as an example of Muslim-on-Muslim violence suggesting how they would treat Israel if given the chance.

10:04

😕 No historical evidence of stolen Palestinian land

The paragraph challenges the claim that Jews stole Palestinian land. It cites historical records and a 1977 quote from a PLO leader stating there was no Palestinian national identity. It argues Jews, Arabs, and others moved freely during Ottoman rule, and says no evidence exists of Jewish settlements stealing Arab land.

Keywords

💡two-state solution

The two-state solution refers to dividing the disputed land between Israel and Palestine into two independent states - Israel and Palestine. It is presented in the video as a reasonable compromise that could lead to peace. However, the speaker argues that this solution has been rejected multiple times by Palestinian leadership over the past 100 years, showing that they are not actually interested in compromise or coexistence.

💡Palestinians

The Palestinians are presented as the other party in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The speaker questions whether there is actually a cohesive Palestinian national identity, citing quotes that this identity was created for political reasons. He argues that Palestinian and broader Arab society does not share democratic values and uses violence extensively both internally and towards Israel.

💡eliminate

The speaker argues that the core Palestinian/Arab objective is to eliminate or destroy Israel completely. This is shown via quotes from Palestinian leaders over decades consistently calling for Israel's destruction. The speaker takes these threats literally rather than just rhetoric.

💡rejection

A key theme is that Palestinian leadership has consistently rejected reasonable compromise solutions like the two-state framework or partition plans over the past century. This shows they are not actually interested in compromise or sharing the land.

💡violence

There are extensive references to high levels of political violence within Palestinian society as well as Arab nations more broadly, used to argue that this violence would continue against Israel if a Palestinian state was created.

💡hypocrisy

The speaker accuses pro-Palestinian activists of hypocrisy for only criticizing Israeli human rights issues while ignoring extensive violence committed by Arab states against their own people and each other.

💡stolen land

A counterargument that the speaker debunks is the claim that Palestinian land was stolen by Zionist colonial settlers. He challenges viewers to provide examples of this actually occurring.

💡international law

International laws and resolutions like the Balfour Declaration and League of Nations mandate are cited to argue the land was designated by the global community for a Jewish homeland, countering stolen land claims.

💡compromise

While compromise solutions like two states are presented positively, the speaker argues Arab society interprets compromise as weakness rather than a mutually beneficial resolution. Thus such solutions have always been rejected.

💡change

The speaker concludes Arab societies need to fundamentally change and adopt democratic values and minority rights before any resolution can occur. But he is pessimistic this will happen soon.

Highlights

The main problem is that Palestinians have always sought to eliminate Israel, not lack of opportunities to create their own state.

Palestinian and broader Muslim society lacks democratic values like compromise and openness to other opinions, usually resulting in high violence.

The reasonable idea of a two-state solution has been rejected by Arabs for 100 years, before settlements or occupation.

Palestinian leaders have always demanded all the land, not a percentage - they are clear about wanting to eliminate Israel.

Syria's civil war shows what Arab groups are capable of doing to each other, revealing how seriously their threats to eliminate Israel should be taken.

There has never been a distinct Palestinian identity - they considered themselves part of the broader Arab nation until it became useful to claim a separate identity.

Jews did not steal any Arab land - name one settlement built on stolen land. Land was given to Jews by international law after Ottoman collapse.

In 1922, League of Nations reaffirmed the British Mandate to build Jewish homeland without harming rights of non-Jews - no "occupation".

Despite Arab rejectionism for 100+ years, Jews compromized to split the land while Arabs refused - they see compromise as weakness.

First step is understanding the problem - don't negotiate with groups trying to eliminate you for 100+ years.

Any solution requires Arabs to change - become democratic, recognize Israel, stop killing each other. Not soon.

The Palestinian leader in 1940s called to "kill Jews wherever you find them" before any settlements existed.

Point to any example of Christians, gays and other minorities thriving in Muslim countries to disprove Arab hatred and rejectionism.

I don't like saying this and wish to be proven wrong - show any speech of Arab peace and coexistence from history.

Please share this with anyone who still believes in two-state solution. See the essence of the conflict.

Transcripts

you might be looking at the Middle East

and saying to yourself why can't they

just get along instead of fighting

endlessly why can't they break the cycle

of violence and just divide the land

into two and have peace it's not that

hard and you are 100% right if you

support a two-state solution you are

probably a positive rational good person

but you are not a very good listener so

please listen carefully because I'm

going to explain why you are failing to

understand the

situation a quick note before I start I

don't like what I'm about to say I wish

I could say that this was nothing more

than a territorial dispute and only a

few extremists from both sides have

prevented this simple good idea of

partition from being implemented I wish

I could say that the Arab Muslim

countries surrounding Israel are

peaceful places and only the

Palestinians have this single issue with

Israel but that once they have their own

State the issue will be resolved I wish

I could tell you that I have honestly

wanted to and try to believe in this for

years this correlates with all my values

I I hold if there is an argument or

disagreement then fighting is not the

answer rather you should find a mid

ground and get on with it sadly the

reality of the Middle East makes it

clear that this is not how it works in

this region if you want to offer up a

solution to a problem you first need to

understand the problem and the people

involved the problem in a nutshell is

not that the Palestinians haven't had

opportunities to establish the state in

fact they have had plenty the problem is

that the Palestinian scho from the

beginning from the n in quaries has been

to eliminate the Jewish State this is

the main point of view of the

Palestinians and indeed of a very large

part of the Muslim world today 50 years

ago and 100 years ago it has a nothing

to do with the settlements or the

occupation since the hate was already

there before 1967 when Israel got hold

of the West Bank and Gaza and it was

already there before Israel was

established

in

1948 before I talk about the history a

quick word about the people and the

difference between Jewish Israeli

society and Palestinian Arab Muslim

Society Israeli Society is highly

diverse and yet the levels of political

violence are very low despite its many

challenges both domestic and foreign

Israel remains a democracy Now take a

look at what is happening outside Israel

is at the Muslim countries in the Middle

East the rich ones the poor ones the

Sunni ones the Shia ones those in Africa

and those in Asia do you see democracy

do you see human rights do you see

thriving minorities do you see freedom

and

peace not so much now if you know that

I'm right but you don't like what I just

said you might say that it is not

relevant to the topic well I disagree

because it tells us something about the

values of Muslim Society democracy is

not just a system of government forced

on the people from above is the way of

life and um mindset that most westerners

take for granted and don't appreciate

enough the idea that I can say anything

I want to say and you can say anything

you want to say and that there are free

elections and political parties have to

compromise and step down without

violence is not something that you will

find in Syria and Iran and Saudi Arabia

and our Palestinian authorities whether

in Gaza or the West Bank and well you

don't have these values of democracy

compromise and openness to other

opinions you usually see high levels of

violence both domestic and foreign I

often site Syria as an example in my

videos and I get a lot of push back for

it I'm not drawing attention to the

civil war in Syria to say that if they

can kill half a million then we can too

no the last thing I want is for Israel

to have the standards of an Arab country

hell no I use Syria as an example to

highlight the hypocrisy of the prop

Palestinians in the west where are all

the protests when asset kills half a

million syrians where are all the prop

Palestinian students I guess the that if

Israel can't be blamed it is not that

interesting right but the main reason I

talk about Syria is that if these

syrians can do these terrible things to

one another what will they do to us if

they get a chance it is the same with

Iran see how they treat their own people

shooting their women on the streets when

the Palestinians and Syria and Iran and

millions of Muslims say that they want

to eliminate Israel I believe them I

actually take it literally not just as a

way of speaking which might be the way

the West understands it I see what they

are capable of doing to each other and I

take them very seriously the way you act

inside your house is the same way you

act outside of it and the reasonable

logical idea of dividing the land into

two has been rejected by the Arabs for

100 years it has been rejected by the

Arabs in 1937 it was rejected in 1947

from 1948 until 1967 they didn't

establish a state although they were

under the rule of Arab countries in the

1990s and the early 2000s Arafat and

Mahmud abas didn't agree to any of the

deals proposed and even after Israel

withdrew from Gaza the Palestinians were

very clear about what their objective

was the Arabs in Palestine rejected the

partition plan both before the

establishment of Israel and after the

establishment of Israel they rejected

the idea before there was a single

settlement and after the settlements

they rejected the partition Plan before

the occupation and after the occupation

if you are a rational person you need to

eventually understand what's going on

here you can't force a good idea like

the two-state solution on someone who

says they are not interested and act

accordingly against again and again

wishful thinking is great when aimed at

yourself wishful thinking is dangerous

when you impose it on those who have

actively rejected it for 100 years

another interesting fact that is being

ignored by those who support a two-state

solution is that the Arabs have never

said we want more land we want 70% or

80% of it and then we will say yes all

their leaders from Haj Amin husseini in

the 1940s till sinir today have said the

same thing they were and are very

straightforward about it they want it

all the Hamas Covenant which 70% of the

Palestinian support starts with the

following line Israel will exist until

Islam wipes it out it couldn't be

clearer than that I find it absurd that

those who call themselves pro peace

activist see themselves as good

listeners while listening to the noble

voices in their own heads rather than to

what the other side is actually saying

now the prop Palestinians will say that

the colonial Jews came and stole their

land so of course they don't want to

give half of it to those who stole it I

have debanked these arguments many times

before but I'm happy to do so again but

from a different angle there has never

been a Palestinian people but don't take

my word for it I'm just a Zionist

instead listen to zohir Mosen a

Palestinian leader of the PLO the

Palestine Liberation Organization who

said in

1977 the Palestinian people does not

exist there is no difference between

jordanians Palestinians syrians and

Lebanese we are all part of one people

the Arab Nation just for political

reasons we carefully underwrite our

Palestinian identity because it is of

national interest for the Arabs to

Advocate the existence of Palestinians

to balance

Zionism the existence of a separate

Palestinian identity exists only for

tactical reasons and it is not just one

quote not once did a pilgrim to the Holy

Land and there have been millions of pil

over the last 2,000 years met a

Palestinian in the ottoman period in the

17 18 and 19th centuries the borders

were open Arabs came here from Sudan and

Egypt and Syria Jews came from Yemen and

Russia and Morocco and there were even

some German Villages and the Jews like

the Muslims and the Germans and the

Russian B land not once did the Jews Ste

land from local Arabs I get thousands of

comments from Pro Palestinians about the

Jews stealing land go and do your

homework and give me the name of one

Jewish

settlement that was built on Stolen Arab

land the only land they lost was the

land they lost in a war that they

started and by the way according to

international law the land belongs to

the Jews many on both sides some tends

to forget this but the land of Israel

was given to the Jews by the League of

Nations to understand that decision you

need to have a better understanding of

the balur Declaration of

1917 Arthur balur was the foreign

Secretary of the British government and

he issued a declaration on behalf of the

cabinet which supported a home for the

Jewish people in Palestine now this is a

very important declaration made by one

country that then was very important but

it is just a declaration so what the

thing is that in 1920 there was the Sano

conference this was an International

Conference held in order to deal with

the question of what to do with the

lands of the otoman Empire which has

collapsed during the course of World War

I it was decided that the land would be

divided between the French and the

British but not as colonies in which

they could do whatever they wanted but

as mandates these were mandates to

execute the decisions of the league of

nation which included building a

Homeland for the Jews without harming

the religious and civil rights of the

non-jewish

communities the Palestinians by the way

were not mentioned either by the

international Empires or by the local

Arab leaders and why is that because

back then there was no such a thing as a

Palestinian in 1922 the Mandate was

reaffirmed by the League of Nations but

why am I telling you this in a video

about the partition first to remind you

that according to international law the

land belongs to the Jews and there is no

occupation not in Tel Aviv and not in

Judea and Samaria which are known as the

West Bank because the land was given to

the Jews and recognized by the

International Community and second to

emphasize that the Jews were willing to

compromise to split the land so that we

could live here together while the Arabs

were not willing to make this compromise

the thing is that while we Israelis see

compromise as a good thing the Arab side

sees it as a weakness as a step that

prevents them from eliminating Israel so

what is the solution a single state

first of all understanding the problem

and not just super quoting it is already

a big step forward second you don't

negotiate with the violent people who

have been trying to wipe you out for

more than 100 years the solution will

only come when the Arabs change their

ways when they are ready to recognize

Israel when they are democratic and when

they stop killing one another will it

happen anytime soon I don't think so but

sadly that is the only way in other

words the solution is not just around

the corner now let's say you disagree

with me you could write free Palestine

in the comments or you can do the smart

thing and let me know what I got wrong

again I don't like what I just said here

I want you to find a quote by haaj

husseini the leader of the Arabs in

Palestine in the 1940s talking about the

Arab State and a Jewish State peacefully

coexisting next to one another under any

conditions other quotes that I know him

to have said go something like this

Arabs Rises one and fight for your

sacred rights kill the Jews wherever you

find them this is is God history and

religion this saves your honor God is

with you and this was said before there

were even any settlements prove me wrong

by giving me an example of minorities of

Christians gay non binary s males

thriving in Muslim countries maybe

you're thinking that I'm right but there

is another point of view that I have

forgotten I will listen I love smart

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yala