Pastor in Bethlehem denounces US evangelicals for abandoning Palestinian Christians
Summary
TLDRIn this video transcript, Reverend Dr. Mona Isaac discusses the plight of Palestinian Christians amidst the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. She highlights the Israeli government's attacks on Palestinian Christians, the lack of international outrage, and the impact of occupation on their community. The conversation also touches on the role of American evangelicals in supporting Israel and the broader implications of US foreign policy on the conflict.
Takeaways
- 🏛️ The Israeli government is accused of portraying itself as the defender of Western civilization against Islamist extremists, specifically Hamas, while simultaneously attacking Palestinian Christians.
- 🕍 The script describes the bombing of one of the oldest Christian churches in Gaza, resulting in the death of 16 Palestinian Christians seeking shelter there, highlighting the vulnerability of this community.
- 📉 The cancellation of holiday celebrations in Bethlehem by Palestinian Christians in solidarity with those in Gaza, indicating a sense of unity and shared struggle among Palestinians.
- 🛑 The U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom reported that Israeli policies, such as the separation barrier, have restricted the rights of Palestinian Christians, impeding access to holy sites.
- 🔍 The lack of outrage from American Christians, particularly evangelicals, over the persecution of Palestinian Christians is noted, questioning why this issue has been largely ignored.
- 🤝 Reverend Dr. Mona Isaac, an academic dean and pastor, is introduced as a key voice discussing the plight of Palestinian Christians and the broader humanitarian crisis in the region.
- 🏙️ The situation in Gaza for Palestinian Christians is dire, with a lack of medicine and food, and the destruction of places of worship, leading to a sense of desperation and helplessness.
- 🚨 There has been an increase in anti-Christian violence in the West Bank, with attacks on clergy, cemeteries, and churches, suggesting a targeted campaign against the Christian community.
- 🗣️ The narrative that blames Hamas and Islamic extremism for the exodus of Palestinian Christians is challenged, with the actual reasons being the harsh conditions of life under occupation.
- 💔 A feeling of betrayal by Christian evangelicals in the U.S. is expressed, particularly due to their support for Israel despite the impact of its policies on Palestinian Christians.
- 🌍 The script calls for a shift in focus to the sanctity of human life and the need for faith leaders to hold politicians accountable for their role in the ongoing conflict.
Q & A
What is the Israeli government's stance according to the transcript?
-The Israeli government is portrayed as claiming to be the last line of defense for Western Civilization against Islamist threats, specifically fighting against Muslim extremists of Hamas.
Why does the transcript mention Palestinian Christians?
-The transcript brings up Palestinian Christians to highlight that they are being attacked and killed, which is not commonly discussed in the West, and to challenge the narrative that Israel is solely fighting Islamist extremists.
How many Palestinian Christians are believed to be in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem?
-At least 50,000 Palestinians in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem are believed to be Christians.
What happened to the oldest church in Gaza during Israel's assault as described in the transcript?
-The oldest church in Gaza was bombed during Israel's assault, resulting in the death of 16 Palestinian Christians who were sheltering there, and damage to the church's facade and the collapse of an adjacent building.
What was the reported action by an Israeli military sniper in the Holy Family Parish in Gaza?
-An Israeli military sniper reportedly shot and killed two women inside the Holy Family Parish in Gaza, an action described by the most senior Catholic cleric in England as a cold-blooded killing.
Why were holiday celebrations in Bethlehem cancelled according to the transcript?
-Holiday celebrations in Bethlehem were cancelled by Palestinian Christians in solidarity with their brothers and sisters in Gaza.
What does the US Commission on International Religious Freedom report about Israel's policies?
-The report states that the separation barrier significantly impeded Bethlehem area Christians, including clergy, from reaching the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem and made visits to Christian sites in Bethany and Bethlehem difficult for Palestinian Christians living on the Jerusalem side of the barrier.
What is the Reverend Dr. Mona Isaac's view on the situation for Palestinian Christians in Gaza?
-Reverend Dr. Mona Isaac believes that Palestinian Christians in Gaza are facing a tragic humanitarian situation with a lack of medicine and food, and that no place is safe, including churches where people have been killed.
What has been the impact of the Israeli occupation on Palestinian Christian communities according to Reverend Dr. Mona Isaac?
-The Israeli occupation has led to a lack of freedom, confiscation of land, and a family registration system that denies Palestinian Christians the right to return to their homeland, contributing to the exodus of young Christian Palestinians.
How does Reverend Dr. Mona Isaac describe the reaction of Christian evangelicals in the US to the situation of Palestinian Christians?
-Reverend Dr. Mona Isaac feels betrayed by Christian evangelicals in the US due to their support for Israel based on a theology called Christian Zionism, ignorance of the situation on the ground, and a lack of awareness of the impact of their support on Palestinian Christians.
What message does Reverend Dr. Mona Isaac want to convey to President Joe Biden and the US government?
-Reverend Dr. Mona Isaac wants to hold politicians accountable for their policies, stating that the current administration's policy has directly contributed to the killing of thousands of Palestinians, and urging them to prevent further violence in the West Bank.
Outlines
🕍 Israeli Actions Against Palestinian Christians
This paragraph discusses the Israeli government's portrayal as a defender of Western civilization against Islamist extremists, specifically Hamas. It contrasts this image with the reality of Israel's attacks on Palestinian Christians, including the bombing of a church compound in Gaza and the killing of Christian Palestinians. The narrative highlights the lack of attention given to Palestinian Christians in the West and the restrictions imposed by Israeli policies on their religious freedom, as reported by the US Commission on International Religious Freedom. The paragraph also introduces Reverend Dr. Mona Isaac, an academic dean at the Bethlehem Bible College, who provides firsthand accounts of the suffering of Palestinian Christians and the lack of international outrage.
🔪 Escalating Violence Against Palestinian Christians in the West Bank
The second paragraph delves into the increase of violence against Palestinian Christians in the West Bank, with specific incidents of attacks on clergy, churches, and cemeteries. It emphasizes that these acts of violence are not merely from fringe groups but are enabled by a broader structure that offers them protection. The narrative challenges the common narrative that blames Hamas and Islamic extremism for the exodus of Palestinian Christians, arguing instead that it is the harsh realities of life under Israeli occupation, including land confiscation and restrictive family registration systems, that drive this migration. The paragraph also touches on the feelings of betrayal by Christian evangelicals in the US, who are perceived to support Israel over their fellow Christian Palestinians.
📖 Christian Zionism and Its Impact on Palestinian Christians
This paragraph explores the role of Christian Zionism in shaping American evangelical support for Israel, despite the adverse effects on Palestinian Christians. It discusses the deep-rooted beliefs that tie American Christian identity to support for Israel, and the ignorance about the realities on the ground. The speaker calls for a shift in focus from end-times theology to the sanctity of human life and the need for faith leaders to hold politicians accountable for their policies. The paragraph also addresses the issue of black and Latino evangelicals, who do not share the same views as their white counterparts and have shown support for Gaza.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Israeli government
💡Western Civilization
💡Islamist
💡Hamas
💡Palestinian Christians
💡Occupied West Bank
💡Apartheid
💡Evangelical
💡Christian Zionism
Highlights
The Israeli government is accused of portraying itself as the defender of Western civilization against Islamist extremists, particularly Hamas.
Israeli military actions have reportedly targeted and killed Palestinian Christians, contrary to the narrative of only fighting Muslim extremists.
There is an estimated 50,000 Palestinian Christians in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem, with a historic Christian community in Gaza.
During Israel's assault on Gaza, the oldest church in the strip was bombed, resulting in the death of 16 Palestinian Christians sheltering there.
In December, Israeli military snipers killed two women inside the Holy Family Parish in Gaza, described as a 'coldblooded killing' by a senior Catholic cleric.
Bethlehem's holiday celebrations were cancelled by Palestinian Christians in solidarity with those in Gaza.
US Commission on International Religious Freedom reported that Israeli policies restrict Palestinian Christians' rights, impeding access to holy sites.
There is a lack of outrage from American Christians, particularly evangelicals, over the persecution of Palestinian Christians.
Reverend Dr. Mona Isaac discusses the dire situation of Palestinian Christians in Gaza, facing a lack of medicine and food due to Israeli attacks.
Christians in Gaza are taking refuge in churches, which have become the only safe places for worship amidst the conflict.
Violence against Christians in the West Bank, including attacks on clergy and churches, has been increasing, particularly since the new Israeli government took over.
The speaker criticizes the narrative that blames Hamas and Islamic extremism for the exodus of Palestinian Christians, arguing it's due to the harsh conditions of Israeli occupation.
Christian Zionist theology among Evangelicals in the US is identified as a reason for their support of Israel, despite the plight of Palestinian Christians.
Some US evangelicals are accused of turning a blind eye to the situation in Palestine due to their theological beliefs and lack of awareness of the realities on the ground.
Reverend Dr. Mona Isaac calls for support from Christian leaders worldwide to speak out for Palestinian Christians and to challenge the narrative of Israeli occupation.
The speaker addresses the issue of Christian Palestinians feeling betrayed by US evangelicals and the theological underpinnings of their support for Israel.
The conversation highlights the need for faith leaders to hold politicians accountable for their policies and actions that contribute to the suffering in Palestine.
Transcripts
the Israeli government wants the West to
believe that it is the last line of
defense for Western Civilization against
the islamist hordes Netanyahu and Co
claim to be fighting against the Sharia
loving Muslim extremists of Hamas the
thing is if that's the case why then do
they keep attacking and killing
Palestinian Christians yes Palestinian
Christians the folks you don't really
hear about much here in the Christian
majority West at least 50,000
Palestinians in the occupied West Bank
in East Jerusalem are believed to be
Christians pre- October the 7th at least
a thousand Christians lived in Gaza one
of the oldest Christian communities in
the world dating back to the first
century into Philip the Evangelist from
the New Testament and yet just in the
first month of Israel's brutal assault
on Gaza the Israeli military bombed the
compound of the strip's oldest church
killing 16 Palestinian Christians
Sheltering there the church more than
800 years old suffered damage to its
facade and an adjacent building
collapsed as a result of the strike then
in December in Israeli military sniper
shot and killed two women inside the
Holy Family Parish in Gaza an action
described by the most senior Catholic
cleric in England as a coldblooded
killing just Days Later over in the
occupied West Bank this past December
holiday celebrations at the world's
capital of Christmas Bethlehem were
cancelled by Palestinian Christians in
solidarity with their brothers and
sisters in Gaza but look even before
October the 7th Israeli government
policy was restricting the rights of
palestine's Christians and that's not
mean saying that it's the US government
yes the US Commission on International
religious freedom wrote in a report on
Israel's aparte war quote the separation
barrier significantly impeded Bethlehem
Area Christians including clergy from
reaching the Church of the Holy Seiler
in Jerusalem and made visits to
Christian sites in Bethany and Bethlehem
difficult for Palestinian Christians who
live on the Jerusalem side of the
barrier so where is the outrage from
Christians here in America from
evangelicals in the South for example
who love to speak up in Outrage over the
persecution of Christians in places like
China or North Korea but not in
Palestine why have palestine's
Christians been abandoned and ignored in
this way who better to ask the Reverend
Dr Mona Isaac academic dean of the
Bethlehem Bible College in Palestine
director of Christ at the checkpoint
conference he pastors at the Evangelical
Lutheran Christmas church in Bethlehem
and is here this week on a visit to
Washington DC Pastor thanks so much for
coming on the show thank you for having
me for starters I know that members of
your congregation in Bethlehem in the
West Bank have family in Gaza how are
they
doing no one's doing well in Gaza uh
everybody is impacted by this war
everybody I mean we're they're
fortunately few survive uh actually
right now uh they thought they will be
safe in the church they took refuge in
the two churches the Orthodox and
Catholics but uh tragically uh people
were killed in both churches uh as a
result of Israeli attacks uh and right
now the biggest problem they're facing
is the lack of uh medicine and food uh
many from the Christian Community were
killed because of uh there is no
hospitals there's no medicine uh chances
are right now if you get sick in Gaz uh
that you won't survive uh it's been
traumatizing for us to witness because
uh they're very close by but we can do
nothing uh and all we can do is if Lucky
uh get hold of them on the phone to
encourage uh and uh say anything you
know just to comfort them uh on the
other hand we're trying our best to
mobilize church leaders around the world
to speak out uh for the Christians in
Gaza but also for all the everyone
involved in Gaza it's it's a tragic
humanitarian situation right now what is
your understanding of the situation on
the ground in Gaza specifically for
Palestinian Christians who are trying to
worship because in jabalia refugee camp
we recently saw Friday prayers held for
Muslims for the first time since the
start of conflict do Christians in Gaza
have any safe places Left To Worship
in they're taking Refuge literally
inside the two churches so they're
praying almost every day uh this is the
only thing they can do right now uh
because as nowhere is safe and they
think at least within the church
compound uh it's safe uh but many of the
uh regular players were impacted
Christmas was not the same Easter was
not the same uh one of the oldest
traditions in Palestine is the Holy
Saturday tradition in which the light
comes out of the Church of the Holy
slica and then literally goes all over
the world and this was the first year
that it not it did not get into uh into
Gaza uh everybody's impacted right now
by this war and as I said they're
fortunate if they can only survive it's
a war of a genocide that has literally
left no one uh uh safe and nowhere is
safe let's talk about the West Bank
there has been while we've all been
focused on Gaza the world there's been a
an increase in violence in the West Bank
a rampage by settlers against
Palestinians has there been an increase
in specifically anti-christian violence
in the occupied West Bank since October
the 7th in your view and do you believe
Palestinian Christians are being
targeted by the Israeli farri by
Messianic Jewish satellites for example
yeah this is not a matter of opinion M
did statistics and uh reports about
incitements and attacks against
Christians testify to that and in fact
even Israeli human rights organizations
are raising concern about the fact that
these incitements against that that are
targeting Christians specifically in E
Jerusalem uh but within also the West
Bank are uh on the rise and it did not
start on October 7th it actually the it
has been going for a while but since
this current Israeli government took
over we've seen a big rise in these
incidents of uh spitting at clergy
attacking uh cemeteries uh attacking
churches arson at churches
um and uh many times when I hear about
how these reports these uh incidents are
reported the focus is on Fringe
Messianic Jewish groups the problem is
not only that the problem is the
structure that protects them because
right now they feel they have immunity
uh right now they feel they are
protected and certainly after October
7th with all the focus rightly so on
Gaza uh they have been Unleashed uh
attacking everybody including Christians
and in the West Bank uh you know while
the world is watching Gaza and and the
focus there settler activities is on the
r settler violence and land confiscation
and building of settlements uh on land
confiscated from Palestinian including
Palestinian Christians is also uh on the
rise you've mentioned in the past that
one of the biggest problems you're
facing in the West Bank as a Christian
Community uh is The Exodus of young
Christian Palestinians due to life under
occupation the Israelis and their
supporters in the west often blame Hamas
and the rise of Islamic extremism for
The Exodus of Palestinian Christians
from both Gaza and the West Bank what is
your response to that line of
argument my response has come and talk
to these people who are leaving and ask
them why are they leaving uh we're tired
as Palestinian Christians from people
speaking about us and framing the
narrative in a way that fits their own
political agenda rather than listening
to our concerns it's it's impossible to
flourish as any Community right now in
the West Bank uh it takes us sometimes
two to three hours to get from Bethlehem
to ramala because we can't get access of
course to Jerusalem and the checkpoints
are becoming more and more difficult uh
life under an Israeli occupation system
that's so brutal that controls every
element of Our Lives is so difficult uh
but we must ask the question why is it
being phrased this way why is it always
as if uh you know Muslims are to blame
for the Exodus of Christians uh again
because it fits a certain narrative uh
it serves a certain agenda and um people
in the west would go crazy if a church
is attacked by uh Muslims in the West
Bank yes but we've seen all these
incidents and it's not just the
incidents it's the limitation of our
freedom it's probably the biggest the
two biggest problems we're facing right
now as a Christian Community in the West
Bank one is the confiscation of our land
we cannot expand we cannot live
and when I say our land I'm not making a
political statement that this is
Palestinian land I'm talking about land
we've farmed and inherited for
Generations this is this is the
difference when we when we say This Is
Our Land so we're not able to flourish
as a community in the Bethlehem Area in
particular because Israel confiscated
most of the land that was supposed to be
part of the three municipalities in the
Bethlehem area where most Christians
live the second is the family
registration system the majority of
Palestinian Christians live outside and
are denied to come back to their
Homeland in some instances uh
Palestinian Christians like all
Palestinians are forced to leave
Palestine because they can't um be with
their spouses so if I as a Palestinian
marry a foreign spouse yes uh Israel
would not grant that spouse a visa to
come and live in Palestine so what do
you do you just end up leaving if a
Palestinian from the West Bank Mar as a
Palestinian from East Jerusalem it's
also complicated all of these policies
uh that have been rightly described as
as apartheid are causing Palestinians to
live including Palestinian uh Christians
as well you're here in the US you're in
Washington DC right now on a visit have
you spoken to Christian evangelicals
here in the US and asked them why they
so strongly some would say so blindly
support Israel over their own Christian
Brethren like yourself living under
military occupation do you feel betrayed
by them we certainly feel uh betrayed uh
the reason is this theology called
Christian Zionism uh which is so
prevalent in among Evangelical circles
uh and it's deeper than simply how we
read the Bible um to them they have
created the world VI in which support to
Israel is integral to this American
identity American exceptionalism
American National Christian identity
part of it is you know support uh to
Israel is and they read the Bible and
they only think that the right way to
read it is to support uh Israel and when
you couple that with a really very
limited awareness of what's happening on
the ground I mean ignorance to be honest
uh because I meet with these pastors all
the time uh and the thing that usually
changes them is when they come to
Bethlehem they're shocked and they
always say we didn't know we wish we
knew so it's ignorance on their it's
ignorance and then that
the the mere fact that Palestinian
Christians exist and then they come and
see the wall they see how we live in
within basically concentrate you know
very uh uh compacted areas whereas the
settlements are flourishing around us
makes them you know ask questions and
that allows us to open the Bible and say
do you really support the concept of a
tribal God of a racist God uh so we're
trying to have these conversations um by
and large we have a problem uh but for
the first time we feel some are
beginning to listen uh for the first
time we we feel maybe we have an
opportunity uh to engage uh and I think
Gaza has uh made many question uh their
assumptions and of course we should
point out black and Latino evangelicals
do not take the same position as their
white Evangelical brethren we talk about
evangelicals we're talking very much
about white Christian evangelicals black
pastors have come out very strongly in
support of Gaza but what's interesting
is you're saying you're seeing some
change because of Gaza from where I'm
seeing I'm seeing a lot more religious
crazies uh coming out of the woodwork
because of Gaza we've seen several uh
Israeli officials top us Christian
evangelicals and Messianic Jewish rabbis
try to spin this war into a religious
one uh with some hoping that it marks
the return of the Messiah others
predicting the end of times Armageddon
uh there's talk of some settlers wanting
to uh uh sacrifice a red heer to bring
about the Third Temple and the end of
the world how do you react to those both
in the holy land and here in the US who
are trying to turn the genocide in Gaza
the violence in Gaza the fighting into a
religious conflict into a holy war yes
uh I'm sad I'm troubled traumatized
because you know for us we're talking
about real people friends relatives who
could be killed every day this war goes
on uh yet we have pastors here who are
excited about the end times and uh even
you know calling for more War uh it's
hard for for us to understand this
obsession with war and violence among
many Christians uh in this country uh
and honestly anybody who understands
what some of these fundamentalist groups
Christian Zionist are saying uh should
be shocked that you know they are
friends with Israel to begin with orbits
Israeli Jews you talk about the end
times because in many of these scenarios
that they hold uh Jews will come to
Palestine only for two3 of them to be
massacred and the other third then will
be rescued by Jesus when he returns and
they will believe in Jesus you know
convert to Christianity and somehow
that's a Israel friendly theology it's
hard for me to understand uh how you
know those are considered friends of
Israel but when we speak against
occupation we are called uh all sorts of
things including anti-semites
um very it's it's very sad
because the conversation should shift
should focus on the sanctity of human
lives yes this is what people of Faith
should focus on human life should be
above every every consideration yet
rather than caring how do we stop this
war they justify it and they connect it
to end time scenarios they get excited
uh whereas to us it's about real life
issues it's about our existence as as
Palestinians and certainly as as
Palestinian Christians so these are some
of the conversation we're trying to have
and as I said some are beginning to
listen and we're asking them for help
please help us reach out to those I I
wish they understand the consequences of
what they're saying and doing because
they give money to Israel many of these
Evangelical churches give millions of
dollars to Israel I wish they understand
the impact uh on our daily lives you
mentioned aparte earlier the a word that
gets a lot of people very upset here in
the US there's also the GW genocide what
would you say to someone who says I
don't think it's aparte I don't think
it's
genocide When someone tells me you know
do you think it's aparte I saw it's it's
not a matter of opinion it's not what I
think apartheid has a definition does it
fit is do Israeli policies fit and then
the second thing I ask I mean do we
really care about the international law
or not because if we truly care then
what do we do about the reports from
Amnesty International to Human Rights
Watch to Israel's own Bim I mean
Palestinian lawyers have demonstrated
that it is a parti long before alhak and
others
um I have many South African friends uh
even Evangelical South Africans who come
to to Palestine and all of them tell us
the same thing what you have is worse
than aparte they say we can smell aparte
for distance what you have is much worse
than aparte and ironically it's the same
people who supported aparte are now the
ones who support Israeli policies and so
you ask yourself did we really learn
from history and the fact that the icj
case was so quickly dismissed by church
leaders and by American government shows
you that actually these attitudes of you
know Supremacy actually didn't go away
uh I would you know you would assume
that people would respect what South
African theologians church leaders are
saying at least you know people in the
church but they continue to dismiss you
know they celebrate someone like Desmond
Tutu the late uh Archbishop except when
he speaks about Palestine the same way
they celebrated Nelson Mandela with the
exception of when he spoke about
Palestine there's always a Palestine
exception um last question you have
accused Joe Biden of complicity in
genocide you've called out the American
president saying he's worse he's a worst
Christian Zionist and even American
televangelist John haggy uh whose
extremist and racist rhetoric we've
discussed on Zeto in the past you're
here in Washington DC right now we're
around the corner from the White House
what is the message that you are trying
to get across to the president of the
United
States um that um you know that his
policies have directly contributed to a
genocide the fact that he says one thing
yet continues to provide Israel with the
weapons needed to uh conduct this
genocide make him directly uh complicit
and I think my message is also to many
uh church leaders who continue to focus
on the Evangelical right while ignoring
that we also have a problem in in of the
progressive liberal uh churches because
as I said uh Joe Biden is a
self-confessed
Zionist uh self-confessed catholic
christian yet he supported and he
continues to defend uh this genocide now
sadly it's too late to reverse the
action uh what has been done has been
done in Gaza uh thousands have been
killed but at least we can stop it from
going to the West Bank and at least we
make sure those lives were not killed
for nothing that something good I I hope
you know for the for Palestinians for
the whole region comes out of this uh so
I think as Faith leaders we need to hold
politicians accountable and uh I I I
think it's imperative that we speak with
uh our convictions our conscience and
speak truth to power and uh he must hear
it from us that we think uh he has been
his policies this administration's
policy has directly contributed to the
killing of thousands of Palestinians
including 15,000 children
sadly it has Reverend M ISAC thank you
so much for your time I appreciate you
coming in thank you for having me thank
you that's our show May the unfiltered
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