Overconfident Visitor's Ignorance About The Quran Is Exposed | Mansur | Speakers Corner

Summary

This transcript captures a dialogue about the nature of the Quran and its historical context. The conversation explores the concept that the Quran, as understood by the speakers, is the complete and final revelation received by the Prophet Muhammad, with no further revelation after his death. The discussion touches on the compilation of the Quran, the apostasy wars following the Prophet’s passing, and the distinction between the Quran's divine revelation and historical events, suggesting that historical events should be studied through other sources like biographies and hadith, rather than being found in the Quran itself.

Takeaways

• 😀 The Quran is the verbatim revelation from God to Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), and its completion marks the end of any further divine revelations.
• 😀 After the Prophet Muhammad's (PBUH) death, there were no more Quranic verses revealed, and thus, historical events after his death are not part of the Quran.
• 😀 The Quran is a closed book once the Prophet passed away, and no new revelations can be added to it after his death.
• 😀 Historical events that occurred after the Prophet's death, such as the apostasy wars, are not found in the Quran but are documented in historical texts.
• 😀 To understand post-prophetic events, one must refer to historical sources like Hadith, Sira (biographies), and other historical writings.
• 😀 The Quran is not a historical document or biographical literature, but a divine message revealed to guide humanity spiritually and legally.
• 😀 Instructions such as burning non-standard Quranic texts or compiling the Quran were actions taken by later Islamic leaders and are not part of the Quran itself.
• 😀 The compilation of the Quran was a historical action taken after the Prophet's death to preserve its integrity, but it does not alter the divine nature of the Quran.
• 😀 The Quran provides spiritual guidance and laws, not detailed accounts of events that occurred after the Prophet's death.
• 😀 There is a clear distinction between divine revelation in the Quran and historical events that are better understood through other sources, such as Hadith and historical narratives.

Q & A

What is the main argument regarding the Quran and its revelation?

The main argument is that the Quran, in the belief of the speaker, is the direct, verbatim word of God revealed to the Prophet Muhammad, and once the Prophet passed away, no further revelations were received. As such, anything that happens after his death, including historical events, cannot be considered part of the Quran.

Why does the speaker say that historical events cannot be part of the Quran?

The speaker believes that the Quran consists only of God's words, not the historical accounts or the words of people like the Prophet Muhammad or the caliphs. Therefore, events that occurred after the Prophet's death, such as the apostasy war, are outside the scope of the Quran and belong to historical documentation.

What is the significance of the second compilation of the Quran mentioned in the script?

The second compilation of the Quran refers to the process of compiling the Quran into a standard written format after the Prophet's death, which occurred roughly 20 years later. The Quran was already considered complete by the time of this compilation, and no new revelations were added.

What was the speaker’s response to the question about burning historical records of the Quran?

The speaker explains that the Quran, as it is understood, is a fixed, complete book of God's words and does not include the instructions to burn or destroy other records. The destruction of other compilations would not be found in the Quran itself, but could be found in historical narratives or hadiths.

How does the speaker differentiate the Quran from the Bible?

The speaker contrasts the Quran with the Bible by highlighting that the Quran is considered the direct word of God and not a biographical account. In contrast, the Bible includes biographical narratives and accounts of Jesus and others, making it a historical and literary work as well as a religious one.

What was the confusion surrounding the apostasy war and its documentation in the Quran?

The confusion arose when the questioner asked whether the apostasy war (which occurred shortly after the Prophet’s death) would be documented in the Quran. The speaker clarified that such events would not be found in the Quran because the Quran was already completed at the time of the Prophet's death, and historical events are recorded elsewhere, in historical texts.

Why did the speaker emphasize that the Quran is a 'closed book'?

The speaker emphasized that the Quran is a 'closed book' to indicate that once the Prophet Muhammad passed away, no more revelations were received. Therefore, any events after his death, including the apostasy war, are not included in the Quran.

What is the distinction made between the Quran and historical texts or hadiths?

The speaker explains that the Quran is the verbatim word of God, while historical events, such as the apostasy war, are documented in sources like hadiths and other historical writings, not in the Quran itself.

What is the role of historical sources in understanding events like the apostasy war?

Historical sources, such as biographies, hadiths, and other historical texts, are the appropriate sources for understanding events like the apostasy war. These sources document events after the Prophet’s death, which are outside the scope of the Quran.

How does the speaker suggest that one should seek evidence of events like the apostasy war?

The speaker suggests that to find evidence of events like the apostasy war, one should look to historical records, such as biographies, books of hadith, and tafsirs (exegeses), rather than the Quran itself, which does not contain these details.