Perls con Gloria, subtítulos en castellano

Antonio Diaz Deus (Intégrida)
6 Dec 201129:39

Summary

TLDRLa transcripción presenta una terapia en la que el terapeuta busca ayudar a la paciente a recuperar su potencial perdido y afrontar sus conflictos internos. El enfoque es enfocarse en el presente y no en el pasado o el futuro, con el objetivo de que la paciente desarrolle su auto-soporte en lugar de manipular el entorno. La paciente muestra resistencia, utilizando tácticas como sonreír a pesar de su miedo o fantasear con esconderse en una esquina, lo que el terapeuta interpreta como un mecanismo de defensa. A lo largo de la sesión, la paciente oscila entre la necesidad de ser respetada y la de ser rescatada, proyectando sus propias inseguridades sobre el terapeuta. El terapeuta busca fomentar una mayor autenticidad y conexión, poniendo de manifiesto la incongruencia entre la conducta verbal y no verbal de la paciente y ayudando a que asimile sus proyecciones. La sesión termina con una reflexión sobre los avances y los desafíos que presenta el proceso terapéutico.

Takeaways

  • 🧘 La terapia de cristal se basa en la ecuación: conciencia = tiempo agradable = realidad, en contraste con la psicología profunda que busca entender lo obvio en la superficie de la situación.
  • 🚫 La terapia busca evitar la fuga hacia el futuro o el pasado, enfocándose en el encuentro continuo en el presente.
  • 🧩 El objetivo de la terapia es ayudar al paciente a recuperar su potencial perdido y a integrar polaridades conflictivas, comprendiendo la diferencia entre el juego y el comportamiento genuino.
  • 💪 La terapia busca fortalecer la eficiencia y el bienestar del paciente al transformar energías de manipulación del entorno en autoapoyo y desarrollo de recursos internos.
  • 🛡 La situación terapéutica segura proporciona un espacio para que el paciente tome riesgos y se transforme, lo que se denomina madurez.
  • 📚 La técnica básica de la terapia es explicar al paciente y proporcionar oportunidades para que él mismo comprenda y descubra su potencial.
  • 🚫 Se considera un error terapéutico realizar interpretaciones, ya que implica que el terapeuta entiende mejor al paciente que él mismo, quitándole la oportunidad de descubrirse a sí mismo.
  • 🤔 Se desestima la mayoría del contenido verbal del paciente, concentrándose en el nivel no verbal, que es menos propenso a la autoengaño y donde emerge la gestalt relevante.
  • 😕 El paciente muestra miedo y resistencia a enfrentarse a sus propias inseguridades y debilidades, utilizando la sonrisa y la falsa indiferencia como mecanismos de defensa.
  • 🤝 El deseo del paciente de ser reconocido y respetado como un ser humano con emociones genuinas, más allá de su máscara de control y superioridad, indica un progreso en la terapia.
  • 🔄 La dinámica de la sesión muestra la lucha interna del paciente entre la necesidad de apoyo y la lucha por la independencia, oscilando entre la vulnerabilidad y la fuerza.

Q & A

  • ¿Qué terapia se describe en el transcrito?

    -Se describe una terapia que se enfoca en la conciencia y el desarrollo de la situación actual, en lugar de profundizar en el pasado o el futuro. La terapia busca ayudar al paciente a recuperar su potencial perdido y a integrar polaridades contradictorias.

  • ¿Cuál es el objetivo principal de la terapia según el transcrito?

    -El objetivo principal es que el paciente recupere su potencial perdido, integre las polaridades contradictorias y comprenda la diferencia entre el juego superficial y el comportamiento genuinamente auténtico y seguro.

  • ¿Por qué la terapia considera que cualquier interpretación es un error terapéutico?

    -La interpretación se considera un error porque implica que el terapeuta entiende mejor al paciente que él mismo, privando al paciente de la oportunidad de descubrir y entenderse a sí mismo y de encontrar sus propios valores.

  • ¿Cómo se enfoca la atención del terapeuta durante la terapia?

    -El terapeuta se enfoca en el nivel no verbal, ya que es menos propenso a la autoengañarse en la autoexpresión verbal y es donde el gestalt relevante emerge para ser abordado en el aquí y ahora.

  • ¿Qué táctica utiliza el terapeuta para ayudar al paciente a enfrentarse a sí mismo?

    -El terapeuta manipula y frustra al paciente de tal manera que éste se enfrenta a sí mismo, lo que permite al paciente identificarse con su potencial perdido y actuar de forma más auténtica.

  • ¿Cómo se describe la dinámica de la entrevista en el transcrito?

    -La entrevista muestra una dinámica compleja donde el paciente oscila entre sentirse vulnerable y tratar de mantener el control, mientras que el terapeuta intenta desafiar y confrontar al paciente para promover un mayor entendimiento de sí mismo.

  • ¿Qué tipo de resistencia emocional se identifica en el paciente?

    -Se identifica una resistencia emocional que se manifiesta en la forma de una máscara de sonrisa y sofisticación, y en la retirada al fantasear con esconderse en una esquina, lo que refleja una lucha interna entre la necesidad de apoyo y la independencia.

  • ¿Qué papel juegan las emociones en la dinámica terapéutica descrita?

    -Las emociones juegan un papel central en la terapia, ya que el terapeuta busca que el paciente experimente y exprese sus emociones genuinas, en lugar de ocultarlas o actuar de forma superficial.

  • ¿Cómo se describe el concepto de 'madurez' en el marco de la terapia?

    -La madurez se refiere al proceso por el cual el paciente aprende a depender de sus propios recursos y a estar emocional, intelectual y económicamente independiente, lo que lleva a la disminución de su necesidad de terapia.

  • ¿Cuál es el papel de la proyección en la terapia?

    -La proyección es un mecanismo psicológico que el paciente utiliza para externalizar aspectos de su personalidad que no está dispuesto a aceptar, proyectándolos sobre el terapeuta. El terapeuta busca ayudar al paciente a asimilar estas proyecciones y a reconocer su propia potencialidad.

  • ¿Cómo se relaciona el concepto de 'juego' con la terapia?

    -El 'juego' se refiere a las formas en que el paciente interactúa con el mundo y los demás, y cómo estas interacciones a menudo reflejan comportamientos superficiales o inauténticos. La terapia busca ayudar al paciente a distinguir entre el juego superficial y el comportamiento auténtico.

Outlines

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🧘 Terapia de Cristales y Autoconocimiento

Se describe la terapia de cristales, donde se busca la conciencia y el desarrollo de la situación actual. Se enfatiza la importancia de recuperar el potencial perdido y la integración de polaridades en conflicto. La terapia busca transformar la energía de manipulación del entorno en autoapoyo, lo que se denomina madurez. La técnica básica es explicar al paciente y proporcionar oportunidades para que se entienda y descubra a sí mismo, manipulando y frustrando al paciente para que se enfrente a sí mismo y recupere su potencial.

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🤔 Interacción y Defensa en la Terapia

Este párrafo muestra una dinámica de terapia donde el paciente expresa su miedo y defensa hacia el terapeuta. Se discute la actitud del paciente de querer sentirse más relajado y menos defensivo. Se exploran las emociones de miedo, defensa e incomodidad, y cómo el paciente busca que el terapeuta sea más explícito y no lo juzgue. La interacción incluye un intercambio sobre la autenticidad y la percepción de ser un "show-off" o alguien que finge.

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😕 Expectativas y Demandas en la Relación Terapéutica

El paciente expresa su deseo de que el terapeuta sea más humano y no lo juzgue por sus acciones cuando está nervioso. Se discute la diferencia entre la imaginación y la realidad de las acciones del paciente. El paciente busca que el terapeuta acepte sus acciones y no la ponga en defensa. Se refleja la dinámica de poder y la percepción de superioridad en la relación terapéutica, y cómo el paciente siente que debe ser fuerte para ser respetado.

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😠 Confrontación de Emociones y Jugando al Juego

Este párrafo muestra una conversación donde el paciente siente que el terapeuta está juzgándolo y se siente desconectado de él. Se discute la idea de que el terapeuta no parece afectado por las emociones del paciente y cómo esto lleva al paciente a querer más contacto y reconocimiento. Se refleja la frustración del paciente por la falta de conexión y la preferencia por una interacción más genuina, incluso si involucra conflicto.

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😢 Lucha entre la Fortaleza y la Vulnerabilidad

El paciente expresa su lucha interna entre mostrar fuerza y ocultar su vulnerabilidad. Se discute la idea de que el paciente solo se siente respetado cuando es agresivo y fuerte, y cómo esto le impide mostrar su lado débil. Se explora la posibilidad de que el paciente quiera ser consolado pero también teme ser vulnerable. El terapeuta reconoce que el paciente puede ser herido y tocar sus emociones, lo que indica una conexión más profunda.

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📚 Análisis Terapéutico y Cierre del Encuentro

El terapeuta proporciona un análisis de la sesión, destacando cómo el paciente evitó el encuentro genuino a través de la máscara de una persona sofisticada y controladora, la fantasía de esconderse en una esquina y el deseo de llorar para expresar emociones auténticas. Se describe cómo el paciente proyectó varias fantasías sobre el terapeuta y cómo la terapia ayudó a识别 (identificar) estas proyecciones. El terapeuta también destaca la importancia de mostrar la inconsistencia entre el comportamiento verbal y no verbal y trabajar en la eliminación de la falsedad en la vida del paciente.

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Keywords

💡Terapia de Cristales

La Terapia de Cristales es mencionada como un enfoque terapéutico que se centra en el desarrollo de la conciencia y la realidad en el presente. Se trata de un método que busca ayudar al paciente a recuperar su potencial perdido y a integrar polaridades conflictivas, enfocándose en la autenticidad y el comportamiento genuino en lugar de juegos superficiales o de manipulación.

💡Gestalt

El término 'Gestalt' se refiere a la psicología de la figura y el fondo, que en este contexto, indica la importancia de la percepción integral de una situación y la formación de una conciencia unificada del yo. En la terapia, se busca desarrollar el 'Gestalt' emergente estrictamente en el 'Ahora y Aquí'.

💡Resistencia

La 'resistencia' es un concepto clave en la terapia, donde se refiere a las tácticas o mecanismos que el paciente utiliza para evitar el enfrentamiento con sus conflictos internos. En el script, se menciona que cualquier escape hacia el futuro o el pasado es examinado como una posible resistencia contra el encuentro terapéutico actual.

💡Autoapoyo

El 'autoapoyo' es el proceso por el cual el paciente aprende a confiar en sus propios recursos emocionales, intelectuales y económicos en lugar de manipular el entorno para obtener apoyo. Este proceso es descrito como 'maturation' y es fundamental para que el paciente se sienta capaz de manejar su existencia sin depender de la terapia.

💡Proyección

La 'proyección' es un mecanismo de defensa psicológico donde el individuo atribuye sus propios sentimientos o pensamientos no deseados a otra persona. En el script, se indica que el paciente puede comenzar a sanar al asumir y actuar según las partes sanadoras de sí mismo, lo que implica la integración de proyecciones.

💡Interpretación

La 'interpretación' en terapia se refiere a la práctica del terapeuta de proporcionar una explicación psicológica de los comportamientos o sentimientos del paciente. Sin embargo, el script sugiere que la interpretación es un error terapéutico, ya que implica que el terapeuta entiende mejor al paciente que él mismo, quitándole la oportunidad de descubrirse a sí mismo.

💡Nivel No Verbal

El 'nivel no verbal' se refiere a la comunicación que no depende de la palabra, incluyendo gestos, expresiones faciales y tono de voz. En la terapia descrita, se da más importancia al nivel no verbal que al verbal, ya que se considera menos propenso a la autoengañó y donde el 'Gestalt' relevante emerge para ser abordado en el 'Ahora y Aquí'.

💡Seguridad en la Terapia

La 'seguridad en la terapia' es un estado en el cual el paciente se siente lo suficientemente a salvo como para asumir riesgos y explorar áreas emocionales vulnerables. El script describe la situación terapéutica como una 'emergencia segura' donde el paciente puede experimentar y transformar sus energías.

💡Maturación

La 'maturación' en el contexto terapéutico se refiere al desarrollo del paciente hacia una mayor autonomía y capacidad de apoyo propio. Es el proceso por el cual el paciente aprende a 'estar de pie' emocional, intelectual y económicamente, lo que lleva a la disminución de su necesidad de terapia.

💡Fantasía de Refugio

La 'fantasía de refugio' es una táctica utilizada por el paciente para evitar el enfrentamiento directo con sus problemas, como se muestra cuando el paciente menciona fantasear con esconderse en una esquina. Esta fantasía actúa como un mecanismo de defensa para protegerse de la vulnerabilidad y el riesgo de ser descubierto o lastimado.

💡Proyección y Asimilación

La 'proyección y asimilación' son procesos psicológicos donde el paciente proyecta sus propias emociones o pensamientos en el terapeuta y luego comienza a experimentar y a actuar de acuerdo con esa proyección. En la terapia, el terapeuta ayuda al paciente a识别 (identificar) y asumir estas proyecciones, lo que lleva a un mayor entendimiento de sí mismo y a un cambio en su comportamiento.

Highlights

Crystal therapy operates on the equation awareness equals pleasant time equals reality, focusing on the present moment.

The therapy aims to help patients recover their lost potential and integrate conflicting polarities.

Patients are encouraged to understand the difference between gameplay and genuine, authentic behavior.

The therapeutic process is designed to transform energies from manipulating the environment to developing self-support.

Maturation is the process by which patients learn to stand on their own feet emotionally, intellectually, and economically.

The basic technique involves explaining things to the patient and providing opportunities for self-discovery.

The therapist manipulates and frustrates the patient to confront themselves, avoiding direct interpretation to prevent therapeutic mistakes.

Non-verbal communication is emphasized as it is less subject to self-deception than verbal expression.

The therapist confronts the patient's fear of being vulnerable and the tendency to act defensively.

The patient expresses a desire for the therapist to be more human and less authoritative.

The patient and therapist explore the dynamics of respect, vulnerability, and the need for genuine connection.

The patient's fear of showing weakness and the potential judgment from the therapist are discussed.

The therapist identifies the patient's avoidance of genuine encounter through control, withdrawal, and emotional manipulation.

The session concludes with the therapist summarizing the patient's behavior and the therapeutic factors at play.

The therapist emphasizes the importance of addressing the patient's existential embarrassment and the need to eliminate phoniness.

The patient's oscillation between feeling superior and feeling vulnerable is highlighted as a key area for therapeutic work.

The therapeutic approach focuses on the here and now, avoiding escape into the future or past.

Transcripts

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foreign

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to interview a patient

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and I'd like to give you some thumbnail

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sketch of what Crystal therapy stands

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for

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Augusta therapy is working on an

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equation

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awareness equal Pleasant time equal

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reality

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in contrast to depth psychology we try

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to get hold of the obvious of the

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surface of the situation in which we

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find ourselves and to develop the

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emerging Gestalt strictly on the I and

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vowel Here and Now basis any Escape into

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the future of the past is to examined as

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a likely resistance against the ongoing

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encounter

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modern man has

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eliminated given up so much of his

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potential that his ability to cope with

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his existence becomes badly impoverished

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my aim is this

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the patient should recover his lost

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potential

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he should integrate the conflicting

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polarities understand the difference

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between gameplay especially the playing

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of world games

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on the one hand and of genuine authentic

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confident behavior on the other

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the Civil War of inner conflicts weakens

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the efficiency and comfort of the

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patient

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she will strengthen it

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now in the safe emergency of the

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therapeutic situation

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safe emergency of the therapeutic

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to take risks and to transform his

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energies from

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manipulating the environment for support

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into developing greater greater

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self-support that is reliance on its own

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resources

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this process is called maturation

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once the patient has learned to stand on

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its own feet emotionally intellectually

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and economically his need for therapy

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will collapse

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he will wake up from The Nightmare of

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his existence

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the basic technique is this

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to explain things to the patient but to

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provide the patient with opportunities

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to understand

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and to discover himself

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for this purpose I manipulate and

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frustrate the patient in such a way that

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he's confronting himself

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in this process he identifies with his

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lost potential for instance through

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assimilating his projections by acting

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out

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by acting out the healing parts of

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himself

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principally I consider any

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interpretation to be a therapeutic

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mistake as this would imply that the

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therapist understands the patient better

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than the patient himself takes away from

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the patient a chance of discovering

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himself by himself

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and prevents him from finding out his

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own values each Style on the other hand

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I disregard most of the content of what

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the patient says and concentrate most on

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the non-verbal level as this is the only

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which only one which is less subject to

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self-deception in his verbal pseudo

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self-expression on the non-verbal level

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the relevant Gestalt will always emerge

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and can dealt with in the Here and Now

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you're going through an interview for

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half an hour

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by the way I'm scared

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you see you're scared but you're smiling

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I don't understand how one can be scared

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and smile at the same time

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and I'm also suspicious of you I think

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you understand very well I think you

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know that

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I laugh or I can't to cover up

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do we have stage five

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um I don't know I'm mostly aware of you

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I'm afraid that uh

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I'm afraid you're gonna have such a

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direct attack that uh you're gonna get

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me in the corner and I'm afraid of it I

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want you to be more on myself I get you

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in your corner keep your head on your

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chest

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well it's like yeah it's like I'm afraid

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you know where would you like to go

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yeah uh but it's back in the corner

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where where I'm completely protected

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for me

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well I know I wouldn't really feel safer

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yeah it made you win this quota

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you're perfectly safe now what would you

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do in this club I just said Mr just sit

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yes no how long would you sit I don't

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know but this is so funny as you're

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saying this this reminds me of when I

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was a little girl every time I was

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afraid I

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just well no but it's the same feeling

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are you a little girl

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this feeling reminds me of it

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no no no glass

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how old are you 30. and you're not the

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little girl yeah okay

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so you're 30 years girl who's afraid of

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a guy like me well I don't even know if

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I'm I I don't know I'll be afraid of you

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you I get real defensive with you

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now what can I do to you

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you can't do anything but I can sure

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feel dumb and I can feel stupid for not

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having the right answers now what would

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it do for you to be feel dumb and stupid

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I hate it when I'm stupid what would it

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do for you to be dumb and stupid

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like this what would it do to me if you

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would play dumb and stupid that makes

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you all the smarter and all the higher

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above me then I really have to look up

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to you because you're so smart yeah oh

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yeah

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you can do that all by yourself

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I think the other way around if you play

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dumb and stupid you force me to be more

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explicit

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that's been said to me before but I

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don't buy it I don't know what I do with

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your feet now

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wiggling

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it's a joke no I'm afraid you're gonna

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notice everything I do gee don't you

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want me I want you to help me become

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more relaxed yes I don't want to be so

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defensive with you I don't like to feel

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so defensive

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you're acting like you're treating me as

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if I'm stronger than I am and I want you

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to pick

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more and be nicer to me are you aware of

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your smile you don't believe a word I

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know you're gonna pick on me for it sure

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your bloody a funny

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thank you

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do you believe you're meaning that

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seriously yeah

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you see you're afraid and you laugh and

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you giggle and

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then oh I I recite that very much can

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you explicit yes sir I most certainly am

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not being phony I I will admit this it's

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hard for me to show my embarrassment and

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I hate to be embarrassed but boy I

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resent you call me a pony

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as I smile when I'm embarrassed or I'm

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put in the corner doesn't mean I'm being

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a phony wonderful thank you if you did

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despite for the last minute well I'm mad

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at

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it that's all right

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no you're in that moment in that minute

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you were not approached well at that

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minute I was mad though I wasn't

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embarrassed another can you imagine

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I still resent that I'm not the only one

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I'm nervous you're good I want to get

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mad at you I

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I Want You On My Level so I can pick on

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you just as much as you're picking on me

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have to wait till the you say something

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that I can pick on that what does this

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mean can you develop this movement it's

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uh I can't find words I wanna

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develop this as if you've been dancing

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I want to start all over again with you

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okay I know what corner I'd like to put

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you on I'd like to ask you a question

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and because I have a feeling you don't

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like me right off the bat and I want to

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know if you do can you not play Fritz

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spells not liking Gloria what would he

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say

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he'd say that she's a phony for one

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you are a phone you're a phony and

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you're a flip little girl

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and your show-off

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Gloria answer to that

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I know what I'd answer I'd say I think

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you are too

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now say tell this to me you tell me what

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The Party Guy

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what's your phone

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well Pony is not quite the right word

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but it's more like a

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show-off for sure like you know all the

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answers yeah and I want you to be more

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human and that doesn't seem very human

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to me

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is not very

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you that oh dear I've got eyes I can see

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you're kicking your feet I don't need a

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scientific computer to see that you're

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kicking your feet

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speak about that

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to be wise to see that you're kicking

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your feet I know but it seems like

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you're trying to find some reason for it

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okay I know what I'd like from you can I

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tell you what I'd like for me yeah I'd

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like you to be aware that I'm kicking my

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feet and to be aware that I'm giggling

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when I'm really nervous and accept it

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instead of putting me on the defense of

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having to explain it

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I want to have to explain why I'm doing

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these things did I ask you to explain

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you said why am I or what am I doing

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well what am I doing you said that's

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right kicking your feet I didn't ask you

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to explain it

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it's your imagination

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it's not this foot it's the foot of your

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imagination

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it's a big difference

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now do this again

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how do you feel now

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I don't know

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being stupid

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I'm not playing stupid I don't know this

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is being stupid

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you did something with you here there

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it's by the chance something in my hair

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what you object to no no

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no but I your your hair and your

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features go along with the the feeling I

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had about you earlier I had a feeling

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like I'd be afraid of you

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and you're the type of person that seems

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like you demand so much respect and so

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you're

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well you know how smart I am I know more

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about psychology than you do Gloria so

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anything I say of course is right

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can you see the same as Gloria or

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something similar as Glory

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to the same act as Glory

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I demand respect because

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I don't know

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no I don't I identify it with my father

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but not me I don't feel I demand respect

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I'd like more I'd like you to respect me

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more no you see so you're the mentors

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all right yes yes it doesn't matter

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right if I could demand respect from you

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I would but do it foreign

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except yourself

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because I feel if I get myself out on

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the corner you're going to let me just

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drown you're not going to help me one

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bit and I know that I can't quite come

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up to standards with you

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what should I do when you're the cook

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for me to come out come out oh we don't

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have enough

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urge to come out by yourself you need

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somebody pull a little

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distress out of a cup yeah so anytime

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you want somebody to

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pay attention to you call into a corner

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and wait till the rescue a cup yes

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that's exactly what I'd like and this is

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what I call phone

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pardon me this is what I call phone why

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is it phony I'm admitting to you what I

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am how is that a phony that is a phony

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because

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gimmick

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to be a rescue I'm admitting it I know

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what I'm doing I'm not being phony I'm

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not pretending I'm so brave

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like you're saying unless I come out

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openly and stand on my own I'm not a

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phony baloney I'm just just as real

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sitting in that corner as I am out here

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all by myself but you're not sitting

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there well not now

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and besides that it's like passing

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judgment when you call me phony I just

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hate that anyway

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I call anybody phony who put some heck

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and if you like somebody you want to

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meet this person

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to go to this person tell them I would

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like to meet you I would call not for me

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but if you courageously go into that

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corner

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waiting to be rescued this I call

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foreign and I still think you're

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judgmental you know what I have a

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feeling you've never felt this way in

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your life you feel so secure that you

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don't have to feel anybody that does

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something like this you're going to pass

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judgment on there being a phony while I

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was in it good no place Goods passing

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judgment you are you're sitting up there

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in your little chair I am but I passed

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Jackson

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sketchment on me now

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I don't feel close to you at all Dr

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pearls I feel that's phony I feel like

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you're playing one big game right

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sure we're playing games but in spite of

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the games I think I've touched you now

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and then I think I've helped you in a

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culture food of course you did and I

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think I hit the Bulls all right that's

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why you feel it out

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I don't know all I know is when somebody

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when I feel the way I feel with you

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right now no I it's like you don't have

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I can't I can't I want to laugh I wanna

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I'd like you to be younger than me so I

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could really scold you oh it must have

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been

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my age three but I'm 13 now imagine I

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said you know you're good okay don't be

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so sure yourself don't think you're

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so doggone smart don't act so proud

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because you've never been in the corner

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I think you can be just as big a phony

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parading around like you're so damn

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smart you know all the answers as much

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as me sitting in my corner oh and I like

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the feeling of you being younger I'd

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like to really I'd like to embarrass you

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yeah

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you wouldn't get embarrassed you seem

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unaffected

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tell me embarrass me you know how old

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how ugly I am

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looking ugly you look distinguished and

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that gives you that's all the more on

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your side if you look so distinguished

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then see

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your side too

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no I know no

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I don't think you're fighting with me

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but I thought you came out quite a bit

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well I'm mad at you what

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but you seem so detached you don't even

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seem to care that I'm mad at you

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I feel like you're not recognizing me at

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all Dr pearls not a bit this is correct

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I couldn't take this much to superficial

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to be involved in catering I care for

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you as far as let's see you right now my

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client I care for you as far as I like

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to like an artist bring something out

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which is hidden in you is as far as you

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care

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well I'd like you to

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I'd like to feel that there's some it's

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frustrating if I were to leave you right

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now and not see you again it would

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frustrate me to feel like there hadn't

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been more contact I feel completely out

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of contact with you like I'm talking to

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the baby that doesn't understand me or

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something like that I don't feel like

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we're a bit in contact and that oh that

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frustrates me

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well there's me more than being

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I'd rather we were angry and fight and

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than to have no contact

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yeah this reminds me of when my husband

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and I used to fight he sits there and he

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listens to me but he's not even aware of

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how much I hate him and how mad I am at

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him I'd

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yeah I'd rather affect you you'd really

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hate me or something

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and I feel like you're purposely staying

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out of

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the fantasy how could I share you my

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concern with you

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I can't say in words I know the feeling

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I'd say on you but I can't say it's just

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a feeling like

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I don't know

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it's like I want you to respect me more

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as a human being that I've got feelings

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no become to the beginning so you won't

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respect yes I do I do

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this is a different kind of respect than

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I meant the first time but you want you

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need respect yes

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I just picked you so much as a human

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being that I've refused to accept the

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fully part of yourself and address

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myself to the genuine part right now the

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last few minutes you were wonderfully

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gently

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playing any more

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could see you very difficulty

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well I don't feel I've got it right when

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I don't like somebody or I disagree with

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somebody's doing if if I should respect

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them if they're above me they're

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Superior to me I don't feel I've got a

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right to really really tell you how mad

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I am

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you're getting back into your safe

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Corner that's the way it feels that's

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what the safe Corner feels like to meet

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you

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prestigious if quality came out for a

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moment you nearly met me you could get a

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little bit angry with me

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do your safety I feel like you're

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telling me the only way you respect me

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as a human being if I'm aggressive and

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forceful and strong yeah I feel like you

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couldn't even accept my I'd be scared of

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death to cry in front of you I feel like

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you'd laugh at me and call me a phony

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I feel like you don't accept my weak

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side only when I'm yelling back at you

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or hollering at you

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okay no

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do this again

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I try not to I try not to cry in front

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of you I show my weak spot for fear you

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jump on me again how do you realize that

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your eyes are moist

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I'm aware that I feel I'm more chokey

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yes I feel it

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could you choke me

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ten but not for real

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well because I don't hate you that much

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you want to choke my kiss because you

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want me to choke you so you wouldn't cry

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I'd like to if I'd like to choke you it

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would be to make you cry I'd like to see

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you weak

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I'd like to see you hurt and and

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vulnerable

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what would this do for you

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make me feel like I'm I have more of a

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right to be her and you wouldn't jump on

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me so quick

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if you jump on me if I would cry no but

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I would jump on you if you would cry

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be sure to this

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no I'm not sure of it

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what would you like me to do if you were

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to cry

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you're smiling you smiling something off

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well because I got two feelings I was

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gonna say I want you to I want you to

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love me and hug me but then I thought no

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I don't want to what's your objection

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I'd be scared to be too close to you

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I'll be getting something first you want

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to be close to me

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now you're afraid to be too close to me

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this is what I'm saying but that's right

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now we got the two ports of your

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existence but they're two different

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feelings close I mean emotionally but

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not physically

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but we've got the two parts of existence

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now either far away in a corner

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I'll be so close that you can melt into

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one without a person

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it depends you travel between the two

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extremes

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I do you know what I'm thinking when I

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am really hurt and really upset about

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something and I want someone to love me

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like my girlfriend will do it a lot and

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she'll come up to hug me I don't I don't

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want it

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foreign

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but are you afraid if you went too close

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to your girl and if you let her hug you

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um the only thing I'm aware of is like

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when I perspire It embarrasses me that

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should feel how wet I am

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I should hold my body up close and I

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don't know are you aware of your facial

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expression the kind of disgusting yeah

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yes I am I do this more because

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it's just icky I can just feel what it

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is I don't like it can you see this to

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me

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no no

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what's so difficulty because I feel like

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if you really believe me that would hurt

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your feelings

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oh you must not my feelings

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wow I thought I was so indifference you

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see before that though nothing could

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touch me now you suddenly discovered a

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way to touch me isn't it

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well you know what I believe I believe

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you're the type of person sort of like

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me that you act like it wouldn't hurt

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your feelings but it really would you

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act strong but you're you're soft and

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vulnerable inside there too

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I think your feelings could be heard

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sure

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but I don't think you'd show it very

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easy

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look what I do

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feel my feelings by turning it back on

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me by saying now what did you get from

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that Gloria you turned the whole thing

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back on me instead of showing how hard

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you were oh can you see this difference

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how did you what did you get out of this

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face

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would you get out of what what you just

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see just your secrets

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sure I know what you get out of it if I

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said what did you get out of this fridge

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you'd say

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you're hurt so you covered it up same

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way with me in the corner no if ever

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feel Superior to me you'd be more

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vulnerable and I could pacify you and

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make you feel better yeah

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yes

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On My Level I wouldn't have to feel so

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dumb with you the other way around you

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would have to be my baby

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cry you would like to play the baby and

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be comforted and heart and the poor

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thing well I believe that too

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but I'll tell you something wrong I

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think we came to a nice closure I think

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we came to a little bit of understanding

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finish this season

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right

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now the demonstration was in my opinion

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quite successful and consistent with my

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theoretical Outlook the avoidance of the

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genuine encounter manifested itself in

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three ways

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the patient was first taking control by

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putting on a smiling sophisticated phony

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mask of oscillating between a pretense

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of being frightened and yet at the same

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time having me figured out thus being a

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believing to be fully in control of the

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situation

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secondly

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she was withdrawing by fantasizing of

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hiding in a corner

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three

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crying which then would have been the

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real emotional meaning of this meeting

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the patient was capable of identifying

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herself with several fantasies she had

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projected onto me she was this was

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especially evident with regard to her

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initial denial for a need to be

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respected

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they need for environmental support

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started to come out besides so need to

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get respected

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rescued from the corner

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and so on I broke off the session in the

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first tears begin to appear she began to

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play the role of the Lonely child and

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apparently wanted to be hugged and

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comforted but here too the assimilation

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of a projection began to work and she

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began to experience holding me like a

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baby

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um

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assisting her assimilating her in some

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projections the main therapeutic Factor

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was to show her the inconsistency of a

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verbal and non-verbal behavior for

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instance saying that he was frightened

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and smiling at the same time

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the frightened person does not smile

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fear it was in the direction of her

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embarrassment

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this embarrassment was protected by her

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brazenness and anger to get her

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existence existential embarrassment we

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would have to work through and

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eliminated the phoniness that is the

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ease with which we can superficially

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assume any role that is required for a

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specific situation

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Sylvia

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way of life this is about what I got out

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of this session

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